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Online Ad Czar Berates Adblockers As Freedom-Hating 'Mafia' (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Randall Rothenburg, the president and CEO of the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) has made a speech branding the creators of Adblock Plus (who were banned from the conference where he made this keynote) as "rich and self-righteous," and accused adblockers of subverting freedom of the press. Speaking at the IAB's annual conference, Rothenburg characterized the Adblock Plus team as "operating a business model predicated on censorship of content."

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  1. If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Foxhoundz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...then I must a sadistic communist, as I have a suite of self-made chrome addons that will identify Analytics platforms and trigger false events, among blocking specific ads. :-)

    1. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If the government does it...it is censorship.

      If I, as a private citizen do it...it is selective viewing and reading of content.

      You know, these people seem to forget that the internet was NOT primarily created for revenue generation, but for free exchange of ideas on a network where every computer connected could be a peer with any other one connected.

      Ok, I know if you go back to the DARPA creation...that was mostly just to make a network capable of breaks in parts of it and still survive, but I"m alluding more to the web portion of the internet with my argument.

      But seriously, it was quite free before there were ads (and yes, I was on a long time before I saw any ads on the web)...and it continues to be free for ideas, but every individual surely should still have the freedom to view or not view certain content, and also, to block having their information captured.

      The internet and the web were NOT created for commerce, maybe someone needs to remind them of that....

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    2. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      then I must a sadistic communist

      I bet you run Linux too. LOL

      --
      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    3. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder how he would feel if I came into his home and started randomly shouting my opinions at him and hacking his computer?

    4. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      False analogy. You visit the web page, and not the web page visits you.

    5. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unless you're in Soviet Russia of course, you ad-blocking communist, you.

    6. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be silly, they didn't 'forget', they simply are ignoring entirely the actual intended use of the internet. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to tell you that their ultimate goal is to require that everyone on the internet be required to view/consume some number of 'ads' of some sort daily as their primary source of 'internet activity'.

      In other words I have 0 doubt that advertisers view their content as the only content of value that you should be consuming on the internet. Think about it, if you're only job was to jam advertisements down people's throats than things like 'news stories', blogs, Youtube videos etc. etc. is the 'bad content' that you should be blocking, their ads are the 'good content' (TM) that you should be consuming. Ipso facto anything that blocks their content is 'suppression of free speech'...and in fact that's what we see in the referenced articles.

      Unfortunately I would argue this is our own fault. There is no such thing as a free lunch (TANSTAAFL) so something has to pay to keep servers running & actual content generated (that we MAY want to read), but until people are prepared to actually pay for this content (and of course a very good micro-payment system to remit small payments for each page view) than advertising is the primary way for users to 'pay' for the content via their eyeballs (or ears since I just listened to an add on Pandora).

      This is in no way to suggest I buy any argument suggesting ADB & similar tools are bad, the advertisers only have themselves to blame in this by their insistence in subverting the true purpose of why we use the internet & trying to force their more & more intrusive advertising down our throats, especially when that advertising can distribute malware & other bad 'things' (TM) like tracking etc. I don't mind a 'non-intrusive ad' once in a while (e.g. that pandora ad I just listened to that I barely noticed) & I doubt I'm atypical in this regard so the advertisers only have themselves to blame. I don't know what the solution to their problem is (and since I'm not in advertising I don't really care) but the market/people will win here & as long as the advertising network continues down their current road ADB & similar tools will become more popular...I would presume at some point there will be a better solution.

    7. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree. Plus, I paid for my computer, and I pay for my bandwidth. Therefore, I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT GETS TO DECIDE WHAT IS DISPLAYED ON MY COMPUTER! Ad-blocking is self defense. Far too many ad servers are infected with viruses and malware/spyware. These bastards are pissed because we are blocking their ads, but this didn't happen in my case (and many others) until their ads became extremely annoying and headache inducing! Not only that, but their ads (if not blocked) slow down the loading of the web pages that I want to see, waste my (capped) bandwidth, and waste my time and attention.

      The advertisers and their organization are trying to make those of us who block their crap out to be criminals, but they are the REAL criminals, stealing what should be private information, stealing people's bandwidth, time and attention, and using it to further their greed at internet users expense, and against internet user's best interests.

      As far as I am concerned, these advertisers (especially the ones complaining about ad-blocking) are EVIL BASTARDS and they can EAT SH*T AND DIE!

    8. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      false analogy analysis. you visit website. ads from other websites shout at you on the site you visited.

    9. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by taustin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When the web page contains ads that include malware, in fact, yes, the web page does visit you. In much the same way diarrhea visits you after you visit the wrong hotel in Mexico.

      And since distributing malware is a very serious crime, the visiting public is entirely justified in protecting itself.

      Only an accomplice would argue otherwise. Since arguing otherwise makes one an accomplice.

    10. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's no such thing as an 'unfalse' analogy. Every analogy is false in some parts.
      This analogy has truth though: blocking some types of speech from coming into your ears and eyes doesn't make you 'freedom hating.' There is no first amendment requirement that people listen to you.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    11. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      RTFA. Adblock asks for and gets a serious sum of money to not block part of web pages, namely ads, the sole or almost sole income source of web pages.

    12. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      There is some truth in what you say, but in my experience ads as an attack vector are overrated. In my company there were four virus infections from which only one came from a web page (and not from an ad!). If you can be attacked by an ad, than you can be attacked by any random link on any random page.

    13. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by hesiod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not my problem if a company is built upon a faulty profit model.

    14. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Fragnet · · Score: 2

      I'm using Microsoft Edge at the moment which doesn't have an AdBlock yet (expecting Microsoft to make the appropriate platform available sometime 2016). The browsing experience without an ad blocker is fucking horrific. And this is what Randall "cock-juggling thundercunt" Rothenburg thinks my experience of the internet should be like all the time.

      What a twat.

    15. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the government does it...it is censorship.

      If I, as a private citizen do it...it is selective viewing and reading of content.

      Replace "government" with "any external entity". Censorship is when someone else decides what you're allowed to see. Whether that person has a badge is immaterial.

    16. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, actually, it's much closer to the truth to say the web page visits you.

      Remember, when you "visit" a web page, all you're doing is sending a request to a server saying "hey, please give me a copy of this document". The server sends that document in response, and you view it on your computer. You are morally, ethically, and legally free to choose which parts of that document you accept onto your computer and load into memory.

      Your web page is a guest in my home. An invited guest, but a guest all the same. It will obey my rules if it expects to stay.

    17. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 0

      Similarly, it is not your problem that the mafia receives protection money from local businesses. What is the difference?

    18. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Random untrusted executables are THE attack vector for malware.

      Advertising that forces you to accept executables from a wide array of random untrusted sources are forcing you to completely forgo any sort of security precautions.

      I've had colleagues taken out of action for days for browsing the wrong site with the wrong browser. This did not include any destinations that would be obviously suspicious.

      The industry really only has itself to blame for escalating the abusiveness of advertising. They work hard to earn everyone's distrust and hate.They should spend some of that effort on being less obnoxious. They employ enough effort at psychological manipulation.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    19. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 0, Troll

      I am sure that morally and ethically ad blocking is wrong. On the other hand I am free to not visit a page. And I do this, I abandoned several sites where I was a regular visitor for years. It is not fair to enjoy the content but do not pay the price.

      I am not sure that you are legally free to block ads. If - similarly to the EU consent cookies - web pages would start with a popup saying "you agree that read the page without ad blocking LEAVE/STAY" and you choose STAY, then I guess you legally accepted ads.

    20. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      Difference? I can't see how those things are at all similar.

    21. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is less fair to force people to be exposed to potential security threats so a website can keep their lights on.

    22. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

      Why the internet was created no longer matters. Today it exists to support and nurture marketing and retail. Only commerce can support the investment required to maintain and grow the infrastructure now consumed by the all encompassing web. Long gone are the days of free ideas or information sharing. Law enforcement and corporate greed have made many online activities bear harsher consequences than their real world counterparts. This trend is accelerating. We no longer own anything, including our pictures and ideas - we merely rent access to them for some limited amount of time form a giant multinational who's elemental focus quarterly revenue.

    23. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Tharkkun · · Score: 2

      Random untrusted executables are THE attack vector for malware.

      Advertising that forces you to accept executables from a wide array of random untrusted sources are forcing you to completely forgo any sort of security precautions.

      I've had colleagues taken out of action for days for browsing the wrong site with the wrong browser. This did not include any destinations that would be obviously suspicious.

      The industry really only has itself to blame for escalating the abusiveness of advertising. They work hard to earn everyone's distrust and hate.They should spend some of that effort on being less obnoxious. They employ enough effort at psychological manipulation.

      False. You can become infected by visiting a website where they have a compromised flash ad. You don't need to execute anything today. But at the same time your employees did visit websites that weren't mainstream. It's those websites that rely on ad revenue from agencies not on the most trusted list that get you infected.

    24. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > I am sure that morally and ethically ad blocking is wrong.
      > I am not sure that you are legally free to block ads.

      So closing your eyes, turning your head, going to the bathroom (or some other room), pressing the mute button, OR using software that effectively does the same thing -- so you not watching the ads -- is now a moral / ethics issue???

      Are you REALLY *that* fucking stupid???

      Repeat after me: It is not my problem to support your broken business model.

      When are we going to have a sudden outbreak of common sense ???

      Maybe we could start with:

      Ads are immoral. Ban the fuckers.

    25. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but a major attack vector for malware is random improperly trusted executables. I'll agree that it's not *the* major attack vector, but it's a major one. (Here I'm thinking of "Intended to install application X, but I got application Y [and possibly also X].)

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    26. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Yes/No. You do need to execute something. Flash isn't a passive display system. You don't need to intentionally trust that particular Flash ad. Not if you haven't already taken evasive action.

      I agree with you sufficiently that I don't have Flash installed on my computer. I disagree with you sufficiently that my wife was able to browbeat me into installing it on hers.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    27. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1
      The mafia forces local businesses to pay money to protect them, mainly from the mafia itself. The AdBlock company forces ad firms to pay money to protect them, mainly from the AdBlock company itself.

      If you cannot see "any" similarity than I give up here.

    28. Re: If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      Yes. If you said "stay" and then blocked ad it would be true. But no website i know of has such a popup.

    29. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1
      There is a difference between not looking at the ad directly and blocking it.

      If I remember well, devices which removed ads automatically was proven illegal. PVRs which made it possible to fast forward on ads were not.

    30. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      AdBlock doesn't force anyone to do anything. You are obviously not interested in rational discussion.

    31. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      So what? Who is forcing people to use ABP?

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    32. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      If - similarly to the EU consent cookies - web pages would start with a popup saying "you agree that read the page without ad blocking LEAVE/STAY" and you choose STAY, then I guess you legally accepted ads.

      But what if my adblocker blocks the pop-up? Inquiring minds want to know!

      --
      Therefore, by the (faulty) logic you're using, you're just a cow with a keyboard - osu-neko (2604)
    33. Re: If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better analogy, I'll just follow you to the grocery store, yelling my opinion at you whenever you look at an item and occasionally stab you with a dirty aids needle.

    34. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      I remember a post on USENET after 9/11. Some spammer made a post declaring that by seeking to keep spammers blocked that we were the "real terrorists". Seriously, smoke hadn't even died down yet. USENET basically died due to spammers. That same mindset is alive and well in advertisers today. Anything that threatens their revenue is the greatest evil that they can imagine in the world. It is very difficult to make a moral distinction between spammers and modern online advertisers.

    35. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I visit a web page, I do not visit the advertiser's web page. Much of the time the owner of the web page is ignorant of the actual ads being served up by third parties.

    36. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      And yet even though I have adblock I have never seen any ads. As far as I can tell ALL ads are blocked, so if there are indeed curated ads that can buy their way onto a white list that they are so few in number as to be negligable.

    37. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False analogy. You visit the web page, and not the web page visits you.

      In Soviet Russia the web page visit you

    38. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      That's the annoying thing for me. Some of these content creators are essentially using the web as a hobby. They've got a lousy blog, they fancy themselves as a journalist, and think that if it gets popular they can quit their day job. I say keep the damn job and keep your hobby as a hobby and not as a revenue generator. The internet worked just fine for a few decades without all the greedy SOBs screwing it up.

    39. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I am also sure that I am moral and ethical when I block ads. I am also moral and ethical when I leave the room if a television ad is playing.

      However I find it morally and ethically wrong for advertisers to piggy back upon my paid for and limited bandwidth! I don't get charged for all the junk that shows up in my physical mailbox, so why do I end up paying for the junk that shows up on the internet? If my viewing advertisements is so extremely valuable to advertisers then they can help foot part of the bill for my ISP.

    40. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      "That's a nice website you have, shame if something were to happen to your ad revenue. Care to purchase some ad-revenue insurance from us? We specialize in making sure peoples ad revenue doesn't dry up."

    41. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 2

      There is a difference between not looking at the ad directly and blocking it.

      Not really. I don't use adblock, but I do use NoScript. It won't run JavaScript in my browser unless I allow it. Usually I allow scripts for ONLY the website I'm visiting. In practice, that removes most of the ads - I never see them. So the content host isn't hosting an ad at all, and they are not included in their content. Instead, they are asking me to allow my browser to go to some other random site on the Internet and download that content. If you want to show me an ad on your site, then, fine, show me an ad on your site. But I'm not going somewhere else to fetch it.

      If I remember well, devices which removed ads automatically was proven illegal.

      You don't, and they weren't. They are just impractical in the US. In Japan, broadcasters are required to send markers in their stream to distinguish between advertising and content, and those devices are fairly popular there.

      --
      "Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
      --- Jerry Garcia
    42. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good, goodbye!

    43. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I am sure that morally and ethically ad blocking is wrong.

      Hmm...so, I guess that you think that watching TV shows recorded on a DVR, that either has auto-commercial skipping, or you doing it manually via the FF buttons is morally and ethically wrong...and would never do such a thing?

      Seriously'?

      I don't know of any physical or social contract that says I must watch Ads in exchange for content. This isn't any worse that watching regular commercial TV and taking advantage of commercial breaks to go use the restroom or make a sandwich and miss said ads....

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      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    44. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      What bugs me is that I don't run an ad-blocker because ads exist, I run it because they're abusive. For example, a couple of sites I like to visit started breaking up their articles into smaller and smaller pieces. I ran across more than a few that actually wanted 42 clicks for 10 individual pieces of content. (btw that approach hurts ad-services, they're inflated ad-views...). Since you cannot detect what I don't do, ie avoiding certain sites, my only effective avenue of protest is to actively block the ads. The upside for the Ad-Czar is now they're finally understanding just how valuable my contribution really is. That information is vital to avoiding another ad-bubble.

      --

      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    45. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by epine · · Score: 1

      The AdBlock company "forces"

      Nice revenue model you've got there. Shame if a significant fraction of the internet public thinks it sucks shit, and we abet them in taking effective action on their expressed preference.

      If you cannot see "any" similarity than I give up here.

      Absolutely I can see the similarity.

      I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum and I'm all out of limbs below the hipbone : Duke Nuken :: AdBlock : Mafia.

    46. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      If you want to show me an ad on your site, then, fine, show me an ad on your site. But I'm not going somewhere else to fetch it.

      I think it is an irrevelant technical difference if the ad is coming from a google server or from a - maybe google - server leased by the web page creator. Anyway, now that the percentage of ad blocking users exploded I am sure that within one year a few web hosts start to proxy ads. I am afraid you will be the only one who will be happy with this solution.

    47. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well in that case then, print up advertising messages on thousands of thumbtacks, then spill the whole box of them on the street in front of his driveway. And bumper stickers stuck to hundreds of venomous snakes, too. CAN'T BLOCK MUH FREEDUMZ OF SPEECH!

    48. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dwywit · · Score: 1

      There's a show on the ABC in Australia, "The Gruen Transfer" about marketing and advertising. Host, 2 regulars from the industry, and 2 guests.

      Of the 2 regulars, one (Todd Sampson) gets it. He knows, and acknowledges that it's a pile of smoke and mirrors designed to funnel money into the pockets of marketing gurus, with a side-effect of maybe increasing a product's sales.

      The other (Russel Howcroft) has drunk the kool-aid. He believes that extensive, expensive marketing is the only reason that products sell. He quotes research conducted by marketing organisations to support his statements.

      I get approached by marketing people acting on behalf of newspapers (outside my district) , seeking my advertising $$$. NEVER have they managed to figure out that I don't service their district. They seem to think that even if advertising convinced someone to choose me over the local competition, it would be profitable for me to drive an hour to get to a customer in their district, and drive an hour to get back to base.

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      They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
    49. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I remember a post on USENET...

      SSSSssshhhhhh!!

      Remember, the first rule of USENET, is not to talk about USENET.

      ;)

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    50. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The internet and the web were NOT created for commerce, etc".
        I thought it was created for porn.

    51. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think it is an irrevelant technical difference if the ad is coming from a google server or from a - maybe google - server leased by the web page creator.

      Clearly you have no idea how the Web works, based on your incredibly ignorant response. It's not an "irrelevant technical difference" at all - it's the key issue fundamental to the entire argument.

      now that the percentage of ad blocking users exploded I am sure that within one year a few web hosts start to proxy ads.

      No, you're wrong, they will never do that - it will cost them in server hardware and bandwidth to host all that advertising. It would create massive logistical issues with advertiser billing (not to mention new vectors for click fraud).

      I am afraid you will be the only one who will be happy with this solution.

      I really don't care - as I already stated. There are several web sites that have already lost my business because the obtrusive annoyance of their ads is not worth putting up with to consume whatever "content" they have. Hulu eventually wised up and started offering an add-free subscription service. Too late for me, because I had already cancelled my subscription because of all the annoying un-skippable advertising.

      You should stop posting on this topic - you're just going to embarrass yourself further.

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      "Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
      --- Jerry Garcia
    52. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      You can turn off the AdBlock's "trusted Ads" feature if you want to. You can't turn off Mafia protection rackets.

      Yes AdBlock is making money off of their ability to get people to adopt their software. However, the ad companies created that market because they finally pushed the envelope one too many times with their "content".

      If AdBlock Plus or whoever ceases to protect me from shitty ad content, then its usefulness to me will be at an end and it won't be used. If it causes sites that rely on ad revenue to go out of business, well hopefully previous to that, they will have been given the ad companies an ultimatum about what sort of ads can displayed on their site.

      The other thing about the AdBlock trusted ads list is that those ads are supposed to be ads that meet certain requirements to prevent them from becoming the dangerous nuisance that they were allowed to become. In theory, having this option, even if it makes AdBlock rich, may well save the ad business online by forcing standards on all of them so there is no more race to the bottom in terms of obnoxiousness and insecurity.

    53. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      Flash is executable content, it is the same exact thing as a .exe on Windows.

      Your browser should not be executing anything.

      Ad blocking and executable (script) blocking are two different things but seem to be lumped together in these discussions.

      If you are afraid of malware, run a script blocking program like NoScript.

      If you don't like ads run an ad blocker like ABP.

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      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
    54. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Archtech · · Score: 1

      "You know, these people seem to forget that the internet was NOT primarily created for revenue generation, but for free exchange of ideas on a network where every computer connected could be a peer with any other one connected".

      Exactly so! A very convincing case could be made that the worst thing wrong with modern American (and hence Western) society is the belief that EVERYTHING must always be about money. I have seen quite honest and serious people discussing the need for vital measures that everyone needs, and bewailing that, "nothing can be done because it wouldn't be profitable". Money should be a tool to get what we want done - not the only aim in life.

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      I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
    55. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Matey there are entire web sites that are nothing but ads pretending to be content, fucking hundreds of thousands of the shitty things and very often one shit head controls hundreds of them, same shitty ads, wrapped around the same shitty content (more often than not straight up scrapped off other web sites) and just presented with a different schema and name. Yes, you can be attacked by a random link on a random page because those web sites operators where not careful enough and that link lead you straight to a malvertisement site and those are often buried in ads. I prefer https://noscript.net/ as it lets pick and choose whose scripts are allowed to run and whose scripts are blocked https://addons.mozilla.org/en-... (if you are naughty no cookies for you).

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    56. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by SoftwareArtist · · Score: 1

      Obligatory xkcd reference: https://xkcd.com/1357

      Really, freedom of speech does not mean anyone has to listen to what you say! And if you go out of your way to make your ads obnoxious, I have every right to block them. Because just as you have the right to speak, I have the right to ignore you.

      --
      "I'm too busy to research this and form an educated opinion, but I do have time to tell everyone my uninformed opinion."
    57. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I think they're both right, to some degree.

      Today, we don't pay attention to something without slick marketing unless we know a lot about it and the market it is in. In a way, many products are the same thing, and so it comes down to who gets the first look who sells the actual product to a customer.

      It is smoke and mirrors, but its also absolutely necessary in this environment.

      So, it is important to note that I don't hate advertisers for advertising or web sites for having advertisements. I tolerated ads with good grace for years. They had their place on the page and sometimes, I'd even be interested in what they were selling.

      However, two things happened which made me start blocking ads.

      First, and most importantly, they started interfering with my ability to actually consume the content I came to the site for.

      I'd literally go to a site to look at something quickly, and I'd find the ad on top of the content, or separating the content up into small sections that are hard to scan, and finally, ad content that pretended to be actual content that I was there for. You go to some light but vaguely interesting entertainment multi-page, and you can't even find the real "Next Page" button. They actually attempt to get you to click on the ad when you had no intention of doing so to begin with via deception.

      2. Ads are now actually dangerous and not just incredibly obnoxious.

      Those are two very good reasons to block ads. I don't necessarily want to put the ad companies out of business, but they're running rampant. So, if AdBlock wants to make money off of them by controlling their access to the market, and as a side effect, forcing them to maintain some standards, I'm perfectly okay with it.

      If I suspect that somehow AdBlock has become a real bad guy (as opposed to a "dirty profit-maker") in this, then I will turn off their app and find another one, or simply start NoScript-ing and otherwise controlling access from sites that I did not specifically request. For now, though, they are doing a decent job of making the web less obnoxious to me, and the ad companies can find the person to blame for their demise by looking in their mirrors.

    58. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      Clearly you have no idea how the Web works

      I am a web application developer. In addition to that I maintain 50+ servers. Including web application servers, HTTP servers, proxies, DNS servers. May I suggest to you to not buy lottery?

      No, you're wrong, they will never do that - it will cost them in server hardware and bandwidth to host all that advertising. It would create massive logistical issues with advertiser billing

      At the worst case the bandwidth cost will be doubled. This will be a setback for everybody (including visitors), except infrastructure firms. But this will not stop the transition, I know very well the network traffic prices. I am sure Google and others will do everything to make the whole thing technically the easiest. The smallest sites wiill quit. Other small sites may need to move to a CDN or PaaS like service. It might be possible that they have to select a single ad company. This strong dependency will make them weak, large ad companies become even stronger.

      not to mention new vectors for click fraud

      If this will be the case, then again, this will be a problem for the small sites, which do not bring enough profit for the ad firms to justify the larger costs of auditing.

      The whole ad-blocking movement is as counterproductive as it can be. I can consider it as a demonstration, but than again it would be worthwhile only if people were prepared to pay for content. But they are not. The best example is Flattr. Almost nobody use it, even though it is mostly targeted to technical people and it is a very easy and cheap way to support for example the open source products you use.

    59. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the government does it...it is censorship.

      If I, as a private citizen do it...it is selective viewing and reading of content.

      You know, these people seem to forget that the internet was NOT primarily created for revenue generation, but for free exchange of ideas on a network where every computer connected could be a peer with any other one connected.

      Ok, I know if you go back to the DARPA creation...that was mostly just to make a network capable of breaks in parts of it and still survive, but I"m alluding more to the web portion of the internet with my argument.

      But seriously, it was quite free before there were ads (and yes, I was on a long time before I saw any ads on the web)...and it continues to be free for ideas, but every individual surely should still have the freedom to view or not view certain content, and also, to block having their information captured.

      The internet and the web were NOT created for commerce, maybe someone needs to remind them of that....

      Thanks, couldn't have put it better.
      Did I give permission for anyone to advertise crap to me? ....NO

    60. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      You can turn off the AdBlock's "trusted Ads" feature if you want to.

      Most people will not do this. Otherwise the major ad firms wouldn't pay to AdBlock. The same for blocking the most effective ads: if only the least profitable ads will remain, than ad firms will not pay real money to AdBlock. But lets hope that some miracle happen and they invent the ad format which is profitable and unnoticeable at the same time.

    61. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      It's one thing to dislike ads and choose to ignore/block them. But saying that ads are somehow inherently immoral just makes you sound crazy.

      Without advertising, we'd all still be living in caves. Even John Smith, the town blacksmith, would hang a horseshoe sign out in front of his shop so you'd know that's where you get your horse shoed. Can you imagine how long it would take to build any kind of economy if the only way anything could ever be sold was by word of mouth?

    62. Re: If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily, there have been attacks through Google Ads and a number of high profile other ones as well (CNN and other news sites have had repeat issues).

      The problem is that nobody is vetting these ads, anyone with a (stolen) credit card can buy unlimited amounts of ads and host whatever they want for quite a while until they get "caught" because of (manual) intervention. Malware scanner still rely on signatures and thus won't detect anything too customized.

      Ad companies should simply refuse anything but pure, valid HTML that fits in 1k or less. No scripting or plugins or anything so big it overflows a buffer.

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    63. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean sites like the NYTimes or Forbes aren't mainstream?

      It's been close to a decade at this point that refraining from visiting non-mainstream sites could keep you protected. The vast majority of the ad networks have served up malware at some point, with enough repeats that it's impossible to trust them.

      AOL's ad network served up malware just last month.

    64. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I use adblockplus and it allows reasonable ads. I'm okay with that. I've seen many sites that request I turn off adblock. I did that one time and never again. It's like I got assaulted. Now if they demand the adblocker be turned off I simply blacklist that site. I do have an exception list in my browser for some websites but those are all sites I need to use and they don't act stupid. A site has the right to refuse me service if I use an adblocker and I have a right to use one for self defense. I don't need any site badly enough to take shit off of them. There are too many options out there.

    65. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      I am a web application developer.

      Well that explains it...

      At the worst case the bandwidth cost will be doubled.

      Gross underestimate. Maybe minimum it will be doubled. Some sites have video ads, pop-ups, pop-unders, scroll-overs, and number media ads and a little block of text backed up by nothing but some tags and style sheets. Just like the typical magazine of the 1990's, many websites are about 70% ads. Unfortunately, that only counts page space - the bandwidth required by the ads are much higher than needed for the content. Only sites that serve lots of video as part of their content don't fall into that category, and then you also have to count the embedded video advertisements on front of the video content.

      The whole ad-blocking movement is as counterproductive as it can be.

      You have that backwards. It is the advertisers (you) that have created the market for ad-blockers. If the advertising didn't force users to dig through all the pop-ups, pop-unders, hunting for whatever that is playing sound, waiting forever for page loads, and all the other annoyances that the advertisers have foisted on the web, nobody would care about installing ad-blockers.

      It's not users that need fixing - it's the advertisers. They created the problem. They need to fix it.

      The best example is Flattr. Almost nobody use it, even though it is mostly targeted to technical people and it is a very easy and cheap way to support for example the open source products you use.

      That's because there's no there there. Reddit uses a similar model (Reddit Gold), and it works just fine and lots of people use it. Some people (^) act like advertising is the thing and everything exists just to support it. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you want to be a marketer, learn to do it smarter. There are lots of ways to do that without resorting to beating up on your audience and demonizing people that try to fix the problem you created.

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    66. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I'm okay with ads but lately they've gotten overly aggressive. Sites have a right to ask you to turn off adblock or deny service. I'm fine with that, I routinely put those sites in my blacklist. Adblockplus allows reasonable ads, these sites aren't happy with reasonable, they want to stick it in your face and drown you with them. The site is often unusable due to all the popups and crap demanding your attention. If this is what they want I'm ready to go back to using Lynx.

    67. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by matbury · · Score: 1

      I doubt he has a computer at home, you know, because of spyware, privacy issues, getting hacked, etc.

    68. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole virus thing is beside the point for me.
      They serve up content.
      Some of that content is ads.
      I pick and choose what content I want to see.
      Their ad revenue doesn't even enter my thoughts once.
      I don't feel even a tingle of moral discomfort.
      If content disappears because of that so be it.
      I'll find a replacement.
      Worst case there is more than 1000 years of literature for me to read.

    69. Re: If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference being that ad companies are evil, scum sucking parasites who really did create this problem themselves. So to alter your analogy, what if the mafia only took protection money from other criminals? Say, pedos. Would anyone really have a problem with pedos getting shook down or whacked for not paying? I don't have a problem with the ad companies being forced to pay to clean up their own pile of shit.

    70. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      False analogy. You visit the web page, and not the web page visits you.

      In Soviet Russia, web page does visit you.

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    71. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > But saying that ads are somehow inherently immoral just makes you sound crazy.

      I was making a point. If one side is going to be stupid enough to try to use the excuse that ad-blocking is immoral, then there is no reason the other side can't be just as dumb and say ads are immoral.

      > Without advertising, we'd all still be living in caves.

      [[Citation]]

      > Can you imagine how long it would take to build any kind of economy if the only way anything could ever be sold was by word of mouth?

      And nothing of value was lost.

      The *best* kind of advertising is word-of-mouth (assuming people aren't being paid to be shills.) When my friends tell me about X, you can damn well bet I'm going to listen to the pros & cons. When some ad comes on TV I either mute / fast-forward, and make a mental note to never but their crap they are hawking.

      Advertising is a leech upon society. It is time we stop putting up with crap that invades our lives every chance it gets.

    72. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hulu shows ads if you are only willing to pay $8/mo, otherwise you have to pay $12/mo for the "no commercials" version.

      In contrast, Netflix is no commercials for 2 screens + high def content for only $8/mo.

    73. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      I've tried to find an article about this recently, but haven't been able to find the article that I read. But it turns out Google actually has your data collection lie to Google on a regular occasion. They get enough data that the lies shift out in the statistics, and in addition, no one at Google can actually trust specific data that you've sent Google...

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    74. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by NotInfinitumLabs · · Score: 1

      what events does it trigger, exactly?

    75. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      New York Times isn't a mainstream site?

      http://www.dailyfinance.com/20...

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    76. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by PeonPete · · Score: 1

      Reddit uses a similar model (Reddit Gold), and it works just fine and lots of people use it.

      No, no it doesn't. And no, no they dont.

    77. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You visit the web page [...]

      Ah, so that's why on most "consumer" network endpoints downstream bandwidth is a multiple of upstream bandwidth (the "A" in "ADSL").

      No, sir. Things are quite different these days. The web site "deploys" an unsightly mixture of so-called "content" and fringe-malware "user experience".

      Try for a while without Javascript and without cookies. That's the "you visit the web page" experience. Refreshing.

    78. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So, most of the people hate the companies the mafia is shaking down, and many people opt in to the mafia, to support the mafia shaking down people?

      It's not even close. And the people being shaken down by the mafia can say "no" and the mafia won't do anything to them.

      The shakedown analogy is that the mafia would place baseball bats outside the business. So, who's fault is it, the mafia who put baseball bats by a business, or the millions of people who follow the mafia and damage the business?

    79. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what? Who is forcing people to use ABP?

      Advertisers.

      If you fail to install ABP or other ad-blocker, they will fill your web viewing with popup ads, and your computer with malware. The experience will be so horrible that you are likely to stop using a browser for months while you recover.

    80. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even John Smith, the town blacksmith, would hang a horseshoe sign out in front of his shop so you'd know that's where you get your horse shoed.

      And as long as he hung it on HIS OWN shop, nobody objected. It was only once he started throwing them at people, that horse-shoe blockers became necessary.

      Be like John Smith. Put your ads on your own property, not on mine. Not on my computer, my monitor or my internet connection.

    81. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Yea, and I like Netflix better. But Hulu has more current stuff, so it's a viable model. But including commercials, it's crap. Can't imagine who those people are that pay $8 /mo to watch commercials.

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    82. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Most people will not do this.

      Most bank robbers used shoes. So, do you blame the robbers or the shoes? Personal responsibility means you blame the person who made the decision, not the tools. In that case, the person opted in to the ad block. Then left the "trusted ads" on. The person did it, not the tool.

    83. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      And there's a difference between a TV comercial that uses unused airtime, and forcing me to download all of Moby Dick every time I want to check the spelling of Ishmael. You forget that it's downloading unknown, insecure, and bloated code to get that ad.

      Your analogy is that I'm not allowed to visit the supermarket to buy bread without giving permission for the supermarket employees to come into my home at their convenience and shout the daily specials at me. They may want to do it, but I should be under no oblication to allow something I don't want to enter my home. Why do you hate personal rights and worship corporate rights?

    84. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I am a web application developer. In addition to that I maintain 50+ servers. Including web application servers, HTTP servers, proxies, DNS servers.

      And yet are completely unaware of the vulnerabilities of cross site scripting and the various other security holes that often happen with 3rd party ads?

      You must be a horribly shitty application developer, if you aren't aware of basic security practices.

    85. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      But saying that ads are somehow inherently immoral just makes you sound crazy.

      Ads are the crazy guy in the mall shouting about God is Here and The End is Neigh. It doesn't matter if he's right. He gets removed by security/police, and nobody sheds a tear. Ads are that guy. The guys quietly walking around with a shirt or posterboard saying the same thing aren't bothered. Ads made themselves immoral (pop-ups, pop-under, XSS attacks, tracking, etc.). We are just pointing it out. And you think we are the problem pointing to reality?

    86. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Duhavid · · Score: 2

      And berate us when we use earplugs and sunglasses

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    87. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False analogy. No one visits anyone. It's more like talking on the telephone than visiting someone's house.

    88. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      Seriously? And how did you friend hear about it? From a friend? And how did that friend's friend hear about it? Because without advertising, no company is allowed to talk about their product at all.

    89. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      I'm not disagreeing with that. I use ad blockers too. I didn't until ads became horribly intrusive videos and other Flash abominations that use tons of bandwidth and hog my CPU.

      I only disagreed with the assertion that marketing is somehow inherently immoral. That's as stupid an opinion as the idiot claiming that blocking ads is immoral.

    90. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      Stop reading into things. I never defended all of those incredibly annoying ads. I block them myself. But a blanket statement saying that "Ads are immoral. Ban the fuckers" is dumber than dumb.

      Ads are not immoral. There's nothing immoral about just displaying a simple picture saying "Hey, look at my product". What's immoral are the things you referred to, essentially turning ads from annoying-at-worst pictures of your product into a trojan attack to spy on people far beyond what the user sees.

    91. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      You're conflating "push" and "pull" mentality of advertising.

      Friend does a direct "pull":

      a) is shopping and sees it
      b) does a search for reviews, i.e. Consumer Reports, AnandTech / Linus Tech Tips, Motley Fool, etc., and sees brand/model was the best rated, etc.

      As opposed to an indirect "push":

      c) is watching TV and ads are shoved in his face
      d) is reading online and ads are shoved in his face
      e) is playing a mobile game and pop ads block his screen for 10 seconds
      f) is watching YouTube and is forced to watch 30 second ads

      Pull advertising is respectful of the customer. In contradistinction Push advertising is obnoxious.

      > Because without advertising, no company is allowed to talk about their product at all.

      First, and nothing of value was lost.

      Second, sure they are -- on their website. I don't want to see their shit on TV, in Books / Magazines, Games, etc., unless I "pull" it.

    92. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When some ad comes on TV I either mute / fast-forward, and make a mental note to never but their crap they are hawking.

      It's best if you can avoid even seeing/hearing who or what the ad is for lest you be subconsciously influenced.

      I don't think it's really fair to try to avoid any business that advertises just because they tried to show me an ad. If the ad is misleading or intrusive though I will try to avoid their product or service but since you mentioned TV if the ads are intrusive blame whoever the advertisers are paying to show you the ad.

      I'm thinking of those free channels on my Roku which show "classic" movies or TV shows which are probably in the public domain anyway and will show you 3 ads before it starts and another 3 ads every 5 minutes until right before the end of the movie when they start showing 3 ads every single minute because they figure if you watched that long you must REALLY want to see the end of the movie. I'm only slightly exaggerating but I've turned off movies because I had to watch ads before it and then even before the opening credits are finished it breaks for more ads which were the exact same ads I just saw a few minutes earlier.

      I really do appreciate some of the international news channels I get though. If they have any kind of advertising at all it's usually "The weather brought to you by ??? Airways" and it lasts about 10 seconds. Of course it doesn't tell you anything about ??? Airways (not where they fly, if they have good fares, comfortable seats, a good safety record) but that's okay. You are reminded of their name which reinforces them as a brand whether you like it or not and the short graphic they show is designed to make you feel good and suggests that the flight attendants are pretty but nothing else.

    93. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Ads are not immoral.

      Not inherently, just in practice. I'll take reality over your fictional hallucination with well behaved advertisers.

    94. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      The traffic doubles at the worst case because in addition to the user-server traffic there will be webserver - adserver too. Yes, this may mean that on the webserver side the traffic becomes more than twice larger compared to the previous level. But video ads are only a few seconds, and now it is 2016, we use very capable hardware and scalable software, the average web server of a small site is usually idle. The infrastructure companies will be quite happy though.

    95. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by dshk · · Score: 1

      If you are panicking because of the additional possibility of cross site scripting then imagine what will happen when web sites starts to serve ads under their own domain name to avoid sneaky ad-blockers. Of course this would be unnecessary if ad blockers were not sneaky, that is they would send a HTTP header or at least a JavaSript DOM object indicating that ad blocking is ON. Therefore the site could decide what to do: reject the user, offer limited content, offer subscription or micropayment, nothing.

      I also do not understand what are you doing on a website like Slashdot which is full with user generated content.

      And by the way, I also do not understand how did you come to the great idea that I am completely unaware of cross site scripting.

    96. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      If you are panicking because of the additional possibility of cross site scripting then imagine what will happen when web sites starts to serve ads under their own domain name to avoid sneaky ad-blockers.

      In the old days, *all* ads were served locally. You'd make your banner, and email it to the site, and they'd approve it, and put it up. It wasn't for years (closer to the boom around 2000) that there was the move to externally hosted ads. At least if the site is hosting the malware locally, they may get infected by it themselves and take down their own site.

      Are you 3 years old, or just pretending you are? Because that's the only way someone would hold your naive (or malicious) opinion.

      I also do not understand what are you doing on a website like Slashdot which is full with user generated content.

      How is that in any way related to the topic of adblockers? Because I think ads sometimes contain malicious code, I should refuse to go anywhere on the Internet? Slashdot gets insulted daily for restrictive code in comments, but it has a good effect of limiting exploits one could possibly put in user generated content.

      I don't have a problem with 3rd party content. It's just that one uses basic risk analysis. It costs nothing to block all ads? Then you'd be STUPID to not do it. There are enough malicious ads out there that it's stupid to not block them.

      And by the way, I also do not understand how did you come to the great idea that I am completely unaware of cross site scripting.

      That's one of the first, and still popular attacks in ads. And you keep defending ads, like they are all harmless static GIFs or something. So obviously, you are a lying piece of shit, or not clear on the risks.

      I apologize for not properly identifying you as a lying piece of shit. I'll try not to do it, you lying piece of shit. You understand the risks and want everyone to be exposed to them for your profit, and you'll lie here about the risks in order to push your incorrect opinion as fact. I apologize for giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    97. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's say I have an auditorium. If I invite you to come give a talk on some subject and you start giving a sales pitch, I'm going to tell you to stop or I'm going boot your ass out.

      Viewing a web site on my computer is no different. Sorry, but my computer, my rules and you're SOL if you rely upon ad revenue because you've got no service or product that people are willing to pay for. You just want to get paid for doing nothing of real value. And no, most information alone isn't worth paying for. The sharing of information is something that decent human beings do with their fellow man without expecting anything in return.

    98. Re: If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congrats dumbass, you're going to force all these publishers to make us PAY MONEY to them out of our own pockets. How stupid are you really?

    99. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False analogy. You visit the web page, and not the web page visits you.

      True, but visiting the webpage puts me under no obligation to read every bit of thing on that page. I asked for a text stream, you sent me one. What I do with it after that is entirely my business. You borrow a book from the library, doesn't mean you're obligated to read every word.

      I do wonder why no-one has built a browser extension that downloads the ad but simply doesn't display it (I'd settle for one that does this for videos and audio). Website gets the revenue, I don't have to deal with auto-playing crap, ad company is none the wiser that I'm ignoring their annoying ad.

      Aside to ad companies: Most of us don't read all the words on your print ads either - and we tune out when the radio or TV ads get repetitive and unentertaining. The only difference is that you can measure it now (and thus can't pretend that everyone is joyfully sitting through the eighth time this half-hour that your dull-ass boring ad aired).

    100. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not even a lack of care on the behalf of operators. Domains change, and unless you've got a decent script and/or eyeball all your links regularly there's a good chance eventually you'll have one or two links that used to go to real content of interest now going to ad sites. And that's not counting site hijacks and other BS shenanigans.

    101. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Your browser sends a request to the server, which then pushes the page to you. Ads on the page essentially piggyback further requests from you in most cases.

    102. Re:If AdBlocking is freedom-hating... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing I've found to work with Edge thus far is Privoxy running a heavily customized configuration so it doesn't screw with some legitimate sites just the ads. I'm sure there's other ad blocking proxy systems, but hell it's the one I know and it works most of the time.

  2. One question by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since when is advertising "content"?

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    1. Re: One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They won't be "content" until ad-blockers (along with hosts files and stuff like noscript) are banned.

    2. Re:One question by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      And since when is the ability to rejected unwanted things in opposition of freedom?

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    3. Re:One question by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      Corporations have more freedom than private citizens, didn't you know that?

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    4. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, being able to reject unwanted things is Freedom!

      At least one part of the definition of freedom.
      This is so fundamental to Freedom that Freedom of Association is enshrined in the USA Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    5. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mister Rothenburg never specified whose freedom it was opposing.

      It is an interesting politics where advertising companies are granted 1st amendment protections, but investigative journalists are not.

    6. Re: One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since when is advertising considered speech?

      Either way, you have the right to say it, I have the right to not listen.

    7. Re:One question by penguinoid · · Score: 2

      Since when is advertising "content"?

      Since the rise of advertising gave birth to for-profit ad-ridden sites. The advertising is the content, the article is the filler. If people would view a blank page with nothing but ads, it would make them even happier, but they are willing to generate cheap trashy eyeball-bait if need be.

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    8. Re:One question by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ooooh, he's referring to his freedom, not mine. I see. It sounds like he believes that crap too, he thinks he has the right to advertise:

      The full speech begins with an overview of the development of the $600 billion online ad industry in the twenty years since the formation of the Internet Advertising Council in 1996, and includes ... direct comparisons between freedom of expression and freedom to advertise, citing advertising’s pivotal connection with Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

      Here's what Article 19 says:

      Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

      So the head of the advertising industry thinks that Article 19 means that he's allowed to shove anything he wants at us, and we have to take it. Apparently he thinks that "freedom to ... impart information and ideas" means that the person on the receiving end does not have the freedom to reject that information. I wonder if he feels the same way about us, I wonder if he also thinks that other people have the right to shove whatever information we want at the IAB, and they have to take it.

      This is what happens when your only motivation, your only metric, is money.

      This is the head of a $50 billion per year industry referring to the people in charge of a $120 million per year company. Yeah, they're the ones just out for profit at the expense of morals and ethics.

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    9. Re:One question by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since a bunch of greedy assholes needed to make a spurious semantic argument which painted themselves as the victims.

      This is an ad exec, which means he's a master at being a lying bastard who excels in puffery, false claims, and unfounded assertions provided without facts.

      He doesn't have to be true, just muddy the waters and confuse some people into believing his bullshit ... the exact same as his "product".

      You really think the ad companies saying "boo hoo, we're being censored" don't know every trick in the book the lie, manipulate, and skew the response their way all the while knowing damned well they're full of shit??

      He's just pulling out the entire PR/marketing spin/baffle-with-bullshit playbook, because that's what he knows best.

      --
      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    10. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, how old (young) are you really? Seriously you have to even ask that question? Advertising has ALWAYS been considered 'content' by the advertisers...but even the public will accept it as 'content' in certain situations...think about it...on TV people will see an ad & discuss 'funny/good/cool Ads' not necessarily in regards to the product being advertised but the actual content of the Ad...why for instance are there TV shows called 'Years 25 funniest/weirdest/most entertaining Ads' or some such thing.

      Carl's JR basically markets their burgers via 'soft core porn' (stupidly attractive females eating their burgers in some sensual way) & people flock to view them on Youtube without them being jammed down our throats...e.g. young (and 'mature'/old) men will purposely go seek them out...how is that not 'content'/entertainment.

      That's not to say I buy their 'free speech' argument at all. Nobody is REQUIRED to consume 'your' speech whatever that may be.

    11. Re:One question by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You really think the ad companies saying "boo hoo, we're being censored" don't know every trick in the book the lie, manipulate, and skew the response their way all the while knowing damned well they're full of shit??

      Yeah, I realize that he's probably slightly more self-aware than he projects. I do really enjoy seeing these stories though. I have never been a fan of advertisers, on any medium, and seeing these people start to fight back, and seeing places like Forbes block people using ad-blockers, it just shows that our efforts are being noticed. We're finally eating into their bottom line enough that they've decided they need to fight back, and I love that. Advertisers have seemed so tone-deaf and obstinate that it's been so frustrating trying to deal with ads, so the fact that they're feeling it in their pocketbook means that we're finally getting through to them, finally forcing them to pay attention. Especially the name-calling of the ABP folks, I enjoyed that part especially:

      Now, you may be aware of a kerfuffle that began about 10 days ago, when an unethical, immoral, mendacious coven of techie wannabes at a for-profit German company called AdBlock-Plus took to the digisphere to complain over and over that IAB had "disinvited" them to this convention.

      Ooooh yes, more name-calling! Nothing says "I'm about to make a fantastic argument" like some grade-school-level name calling. And why are they "techie wannabes", of all things? Because they're beating him at every opportunity. He's in an arms race against people who are on a level that he doesn't even understand, so he specifically picks that as the way to insult them. I love it, he's admitting that he's getting beaten at the technical arms race. Instead of trying to figure out new ways to get around the filters, their solution is to just block people using the filters. Here's what I love even more: he's going to realize that their only solution is to end up paying ABP for inclusion on their whitelist, and as soon as that check is written he's going to wake up and realize that ABP just failed after everyone left and now there are 5 other blockers that people are using that don't have a whitelist. Who is he going to call names then?

      On another note, I noticed this question in his speech:

      But since you are here, I want to take the opportunity to ask you a personal question - a question that may make you uncomfortable.

      Go on.....

      Sure, $50 billion in revenue is a great thing - for the businesses taking it in. But how will we create - and how will you, personally, contribute to creating - the next $50 billion in value... value to society, value to the culture, value to your family, value to your friends and neighbors?

      Yeeeesssss... considering the fact that your work is not valuable to any culture, and that your friends and neighbors probably secretly hate you and the work you're doing, how are you going to personally create that ... ahem... "value"?

      But if money is your only goal, then you risk falling into relativism - a pernicious trap, for you begin weighing all potential returns based on the single metric of how much more money you can make. Truth, beauty, fairness, justice, honesty, civic pride, neighborliness - they become means to an end, rather than ends in themselves. That is debilitating, and ultimately deadens the soul.

      There you go, Ad Guy, THAT was the message you should have been spreading 20 years ago when you started. Now it's a bit late to try and get everyone "on board" with doing things the right way. You've spent the last 20 years treating things like truth, beauty, fairness, justice, and honesty as means to a profitable end, and now I'd like to invite you to Sit'n'Spin while you think about how you've spent those last 20 years. Welcome to your funeral.

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    12. Re:One question by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Videos, pictures, and text advertisements are all referred to by the advertising industry as "creatives." Which makes sense in a way, because some artist or writer worked to make them.

      Want to know something else? You, the reader and user of the website, are referred to as "supply." Websites try to build up supply so they can fill the "demands" of advertisers. No joke. This sort of stuff is why I left the advertising industry and am never working there again.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    13. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the head of the advertising industry thinks that Article 19 means that he's allowed to shove anything he wants at us, and we have to take it. Apparently he thinks that "freedom to ... impart information and ideas" means that the person on the receiving end does not have the freedom to reject that information. I wonder if he feels the same way about us, I wonder if he also thinks that other people have the right to shove whatever information we want at the IAB, and they have to take it.

      Indeed. I wonder how he would feel if someone started bombarding his home computers with neo-nazi propaganda. If he were to block that content it would be censorship, wouldn't it?

    14. Re:One question by cyberblob · · Score: 1

      Agreed,
      Content means you provide value to the person that has requested you provide content. Not forced down.
      FYI, AD's are not subject to protections of freedom of the press. They are nothing more than unwanted bits of data and should be treated as much.

      We should require by law all AD companies to have an verifiable ID embedded into AD you request to view. This way individuals can charge them for bandwidth usage, memory usage, time and storage.
      Only then will we see value in them. This will be capitalism at it's best.

    15. Re:One question by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Even if they were, that wouldn't imply that individual people should need to attend to them.

      What *is* legitimate is to consider viewing them the price of seeing the web page. I have not problem with that, but I almost always consider the price too high.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    16. Re:One question by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Well that explains the distorted view that advertisers have of the web, fortunately they are wrong.

      People go to websites to view real content, meaning the article, blog, video or whatever drew them to the site. They do not go to view ads, they did not come to learn yet another weird trick or to hear about some jagoffs bookshelf full of Lamborghinis, they are there for the actual content whether it be a cooking recipe or a article about the mating habits of the western washed up celebrity (hominis nonerectus) it is the real content that drives people to visit.

      I have often heard people compare their websites to their living room, which I suppose is as apt an analogy as any. They are producing the content and paying the costs so it is their choice what they will do with their website. People will come to visit if the content is good, but even then there is only so much the visitor will tolerate before deciding to remedy the situation via either ad block or just not visiting. So I would suggest any actual content producers out there take a good look at their advertising partners. Because if you allow them to come in your living room and shit all over the place, don't be surprised if your guests leave.

      --
      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the (supposed) good of its victims may be the most oppressive
    17. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's what Article 19 says: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:38PM (#51375371)

      Practice what you preach adblock shill: Why sockpuppet downmod apk's post showing you eat your words then http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? We know it's you doing it as your post history shows you accuse apk of using sock puppet when everyone knows he posts anonymous always and in accusing him of it you clearly projected you do use sockpuppets! All so you can downmod any opponent you have that you can't validly prove wrong by using your sockpuppets to farm karma in order to do so to hide them when they make you eat your words like apk did bigmouth. Shouldn't have shot your mouth off. Apk rammed them back down your throat. You're not fooling anybody and you must favor the color transparent. We can see right through you.

    18. Re:One question by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      how will you, personally, contribute to creating - the next $50 billion in value... value to society, value to the culture, value to your family, value to your friends and neighbors?

      I really hope that some day I have to seriously consider this question.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    19. Re: One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're in the most fear of hosts. Rampant minusmodding of apk's posts on hosts constantly show it. Hosts do lots more for less against ads\malware so it makes sense. Apk outsmarts them beating the downmods by reposting without limits unlike most anonymous cowards and his technical points are untouchable by inferior browser addon competitors. All addons are on the way out as clarityray detects and blocks them all but not hosts or noscript at least as clarityray is javascript.

    20. Re:One question by Kamokazi · · Score: 1

      There's this one easy trick to make it content that you just won't believe. Internet users HATE it!

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      As our way of thanking you for your positive contributions to Slashdot, you are eligible to disable Slashdot 2.0.
    21. Re:One question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if he also thinks that other people have the right to shove whatever information we want at the IAB, and they have to take it.

      The fact that they banned.. er, "cancelled the invitation" of AdBlock pretty much answers that they don't have an issue with being selective as to what information they take in.

      I'm pretty amused by the combination, though - I do wonder if they were *just* self-aware enough to realize that taking their money and then shitting all over them in person was perhaps a step too far? Or is it just the pure cynicism that they didn't want AdBlock there rebutting?

  3. Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Censorship is when someone else prevents you from viewing the content that you want to see. Freedom is being able to view only the content that I want to.

    1. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by myrdos2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Freedom is being able to view only the content that I want to.

      Exactly. Might as well say that the makers of foam ear plugs are engaged in censorship.

    2. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep a file of notable quotes. I just added this. tyvm

    3. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm kinda surprised this point of view is so popular given Slashdot is chock-full of Gamergaters, who had a conniption when Randi Lee Harper created her ggautoblocker tool to prevent users (usually victims of dogpiling style harassment) from having to read tweets by likely Gamergaters.

      Double standard? Or are you going to finally admit that what she did wasn't "censorship"?

      And BTW, having a blue checkmark removed from your name isn't censorship either.

    4. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

      I think you are completely making this up.

      Gamergaters whining that someone invented a kill file for Twitter? Probably only in your own mind.

      Welcome to the 80s Twitter...

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    5. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And also, freedom of speech is not a right to be heard. We also have the freedom to not listen (or in this case, read). Adblock Plus is not infringing on a freedom of speech (they can still serve up all the ads they want), it is facilitating my right to not listen.

    6. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by fuzznutz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the ads are the reason we are able to enjoy the freedom of free content. By blocking the ads, you are essentially stealing the content.

      I wondered how long it would be before some idiot threw this one out.

      Since you are obviously clueless, let me explain how it works. I connect to your site and request you to transmit a webpage to me. If you willingly send that page, I cannot be accused of stealing because I don't look at the entire thing. In fact, I revel in the fact that I block your ads. I am astonished at how bad the experience can be when you do not block. When I am asked to look at somebody's computer, the FIRST thing I do is install an adblocker. I have NEVER had anyone ask me to remove it.

    7. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By ignoring retards like you, I am stealing your soul. Suck it up.

    8. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.tomsguide.com/us/ad-blocking-is-stealing,news-20962.html
      http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/Ad-Blocking-Technology-Its-Not-User-Choice-Its-Stealing--104457.aspx
      http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/05/17/adblockers-are-immoral-and-mobile-networks-should-know-better/#gref
      http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/04/tech-talk-ad-blockers-another-form-of-theft.html

    9. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a liar. You spouted all that and yet you minusmod apk showing almostalladsblocked's inferior here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... ? Give us a break bullshitter.

    10. Re:Dude needs to learn what censorship is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to subscribe to a newspaper. When I'd get it, the first thing I'd do is throw away the classified section and all the glossy advertising inserts so I could start reading what I was interested in, the articles.

      Of course I was still exposed to some advertising mixed in with the articles, but they weren't so intrusive so as to make the newspaper unreadable.

      What if I hired someone to curate the newspaper for me? They'd take 2 copies of the paper and cut out all the ads and then paste all the articles together so I could read it without seeing any ads or having to flip to page A14 to read the rest of an article.

  4. LOL... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the advertising industries conception of freedom, is free to spy and collect data on everyone and do whatever it wants to our computers for profit. Adblocking was a response to the real mafia - the advertising conglomerates and the conmen that inhabit such 'industries'.

  5. Online ad czar throws toys out of pram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a single fuck was given by anyone else.

    1. Re:Online ad czar throws toys out of pram by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Not a single fuck was given by anyone else.

      I don't know - looks to me like the world is giving them a LOT of f*ck yous. It's only because it's just on the internet that they're not accompanied by long greased poles, cattle prods, a rolled-up carpet, and a dumpster.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    2. Re:Online ad czar throws toys out of pram by fremsley471 · · Score: 1

      You can be absolutely sure that he runs Adblock on all his machines.

  6. The scary thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are people out there who legit believe this trash

    Fuck your "content" if I wanted it on my property I'd go out of my way to get it

  7. First they ignore you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then they laugh at you,
    Then they fight you.
    Then you win.

    1. Re:First they ignore you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First they ignore you
      Then they laugh at you,
      Then they fight you.
      Then you win.

        -- Gandhi

      First they march you through hundreds of miles of jungle without water,
      Then they shoot you,
      Then they disembowel you.
      Then you lose.

        -- Gandhi, had the Japs won WW2

  8. Wha-wha-wha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have to listen to me because freedom! No censorship, no ignoring my commercial speech! You must listen and then buy!

    In fact, no questioning the claims of my advertising either! Telling me I'm wrong is harming my liberty!

  9. If AB+ were forced on users by beschra · · Score: 2

    He might have a point or two if use of AB+ weren't voluntary. As it is, how is my choice to block his content censorship? I call it editing a data stream.

    --
    It is unwise to ascribe motive
    1. Re:If AB+ were forced on users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, as a (US, state-level) government employee, use of AB+ IS forced on me, and all my coworkers, at lest while we're at work.

      It's still not censorship, though.

    2. Re:If AB+ were forced on users by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 1

      If it wasn't AB+ (which is really odd in a gov organization), you would just have an SSL inspection box that filtered out any crap they didn't want. Personally I don't want ads and their associated trackers 'monitoring' inside of government networks. Nefarious 3rd parties could easily buy or steal that data and use it to attack your network.

    3. Re:If AB+ were forced on users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're against censorship why are you minusmod hiding apk's post that proves adblock's inferior to hosts http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... for? I've always noticed you "freedom of speech" bullshitters are the worst abusers of censorship there is bar none. How ironic and droll. Do you like wearing egg on your face now? Gonna minusmod me too for telling it how it is and you made it possible? Go away fool and go shill sold out busted by default not doing its job almostalladsblocked somewhere else but not here. You're too easy to see through and your favorite color has to be transparent.

  10. Is his address public? by neminem · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because I think it would be fitting if everyone were to forward him big packages containing all the unsolicited mail they've received recently. After all, that's "content" too, right, so if you don't want to receive it, you're "subverting freedom of the press" that allows anyone to send advertisements unsolicited to whoever they want and regardless of how annoyed they might get, right?

    1. Re:Is his address public? by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Because I think it would be fitting if everyone were to forward him big packages containing all the unsolicited mail they've received recently. After all, that's "content" too, right, so if you don't want to receive it, you're "subverting freedom of the press" that allows anyone to send advertisements unsolicited to whoever they want and regardless of how annoyed they might get, right?

      Nah... Just wander into his house at random times and tell him how you feel directly. Make sure you stand in front of whatever he is doing while you do it. And dance. And one in a while, try to hack his computer...

  11. Censorship? What? by JeffOwl · · Score: 1

    Rothenburg characterized the Adblock Plus team as "operating a business model predicated on censorship of content."

    As a consumer of content, I am allowed to pick the content I consume however I want. That isn't censorship.

  12. Nothing to see, please move along... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    I can't seem to get to one of the links, but I didn't see "mafia" in the first link, though click-bait headlines unsupported by actual content seem to be the standard at Slashdot these days.

    Much is being made of the fact that these asshats declined to let AdBlock people attend their conference. But really people, do you really think that the MPAA folks would allow the Pirate Bay guys to attend one of their conferences? Really?

    The whole "story" such that it is, is Dice / Slashdot click bait.

    --
    If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
  13. They did it to themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As far as I'm concerned the ad companies did this to themselves as soon as the volume of data for advertising became greater than the content I wanted to read. Oh, and malware, lots of malware. And visually irritating ads like the old shock the monkey banners. And the creepy way ads seem to know what I buy online and show me similar products on various pages. Creepy AF. Screw those crybabies. They created the conditions that gave rise to ad blocking, and they need to focus on creating an environment where the ads once again become less intrusive.

    (relevant capcha: "sanest")

    1. Re:They did it to themselves by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1
      And the ads that looked like windows system dialog boxes warning you of how you need to fix $PROBLEM now by clicking.

      Looked really strange on linux.

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    2. Re:They did it to themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Random word captchas are never relevant and people who include them in their post are idiots. If I wanted a random word I'd push the random button in any dictionary. Just as relevant as your idiocy.

  14. What nonsense by Kierthos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First and foremost, "Freedom of the press" applies to the government not restricting the press. If a private citizen tells a reporter "Get off my property", it's not restricting freedom of the press. If a web forum says in their terms and conditions that you can't talk about topics X, Y, and Z, it's not restricting freedom of the press.

    And if an ad-blocker blocks ads, it's not restricting freedom of the press.

    --
    Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
    1. Re:What nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/government/authoroty/g

  15. never gonna happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until they have a firm handle on the advertising industry: removing annoying audio playing or popup ads, virus infested servers, and overly bright and flashy ads; I'm keeping my adblocker for my own protection.

  16. Oy vey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't steal content by not watching ads, you internet scumbags!

    1. Re:Oy vey! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't steal content by not watching ads, you internet scumbags!

      They consider their ads to be content, so "don't steal content - don't watch their ads" would be more apropos.

      Each internet ad
      that lies to me
      is a damn fine reason
      to block and not see.

      You don't own my eye balls
      I am not your product
      Get strung up by your balls
      We don't give a f*ck.

      You don't care
      about what we want
      so why should we give
      a sh*t about you, stupid c*nt?

      You don't like
      our freedom to decide
      not to watch your crap?
      Go commit suicide.

      Or die in a fire,
      upload it to youtube
      view counts will soar,
      advertise sunblock, you n00b.

      We really don't like
      your ads that are spam
      No, not even
      With green eggs and ham

      I will not click them,
      not with my mouse
      I don't want them
      even in my house

      So it's plain to see
      Mr. I. A. B.,
      You're p*ssing in the wind
      And we all can see.

      Burma Shave

      --
      "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
    2. Re:Oy vey! by dissy · · Score: 1

      Don't steal content by not watching ads, you internet scumbags!

      The privileged of reading this highly valuable post is a million dollars - which you now are in debt to me for.

      Until your check clears, you stole from me first.
      Until you feel guilt for stealing from me and decide to pay, I will not feel any differently towards you.

      Now stop being a scumbag thief and go get a real job instead of leaching off humanity.

    3. Re:Oy vey! by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      That's called "going long".

      --
      Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
    4. Re:Oy vey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the ending. Sprinkled with gold-dust.

  17. This just in... by PessimysticRaven · · Score: 2

    "Moron says words and things that mean stuff and whatnot."
    Or
    "Advertisers hate things that prevent people from seeing advertisements."

    --
    Consistency is only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
    1. Re:This just in... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      "Advertising industry confirms ad-blockers are working."
      Or
      "Ad industry still in denial, thinks it owns your computer."

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:This just in... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Or how about this:
      "Czar Hates Communists"

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  18. My Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Randall Rothenburg, the president and CEO of the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) has made a speech branding the creators of Adblock Plus (who were banned from the conference where he made this keynote) as "rich and self-righteous," and accused adblockers of subverting freedom of the press. Speaking at the IAB's annual conference, Rothenburg characterized the Adblock Plus team as "operating a business model predicated on censorship of content."

    Fuck you and the adware you rode in on!!!

  19. Freedom of speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You know freedom of speech is evenly match with freedom to not listen.

    No one is obligated to listen to anything you say, or do, or print.

  20. So don't "Sell" to us, then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because we have the cash, you have the "ad", but you can't swap ads for rent or food. You need cash for that. If you can't sell the ad to us, we don't have to give one shit.

  21. Freedom of the Press? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Randall Rothenburg, ... accused adblockers of subverting freedom of the press.

    (a) The First Amendment only applies in the US, and (b) only applies with regard to the Government. Why don't people understand this?

    Rothenburg characterized the Adblock Plus team as "operating a business model predicated on censorship of content."

    People have the right to determine what is/isn't downloaded to their own devices, using the bandwidth for which they pay.

    There's so much wrong with Randall's "rich and self-righteous" comment that I don't even know where to start.

    --
    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    1. Re:Freedom of the Press? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      There's so much wrong with Randall's "rich and self-righteous" comment that I don't even know where to start.

      People always accuse others of their greatest sin. It's a guilt thing.

      --
      Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
    2. Re:Freedom of the Press? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      There's so much wrong with Randall's "rich and self-righteous" comment that I don't even know where to start.

      People always accuse others of their greatest sin. It's a guilt thing.

      Sounds about right. It also seems that hypocrites are blind to the maligned traits in themselves. Don't know if it's willful or not.

      --
      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  22. Just make sure you visit the site! iab.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just make sure you visit the site! iab.com

  23. Re:Only in America by FooAtWFU · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't be silly. There are plenty of people in eastern Europe - places like Poland - who would quite gladly use it as a pejorative, and from time to time they may use more specific terms like "Bolshevik" as well.

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  24. He's got it backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So according to him, Preventing myself from being tracked, forced to pay bandwidth fees for unwanted data, and pestered makes me freedom hating?

    I would call this Rottenburg bozo the freedom hating, rich and self-righteous nimrod.

    1. Re:He's got it backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, if you read his article on the iab.com site (I won't link so they don't get any google-fu bonuses), it's not quite as outlandish as the headline would have you believe.

      He makes a valid point about ABP's non-intrusive ads program, which is a pay-to-get-unblocked scheme. It is logically identical to the mafia's old "pay me or I won't prevent the fire that is going to burn your business down tomorrow" routine. Or it would be, if only...

      In the very same article, he raises the exact reason that it's not a RICO-prosecutable crime and then fails to even address it. He says that for-profit ad-blocking entities are the mafia, but individuals that seek out ad-blocking are just poorly-served consumers and that advertising needs to serve those peoples' needs better. He entirely ignores the point that "the mafia" isn't doing anything at all directly to advertisers without that second, supposedly-innocent class of victimized consumers who are being accosted by ads all of the damned time. And he ignores the fact that despite those poor-little-innocent-consumers' wishes, the ad-blocking "mafia" is bypassing those wishes just to suck his industry's cock!

      And this completely ignores the existence of ABE, ABL, uB, uBO, or any of the other million-and-one blocking extensions that exist. Meanwhile, EasyList is something you can feed into a filtering proxy or DNS proxy at the edge router, and no browser plugins are needed. And NoScript is a must-have that puts an appropriate crimp all up in his shit, too.

      So, basically, self-serving advertising-industry shitcock is a self-serving advertising-industry shitcock. But you already knew that.

  25. Are spam filters censorship to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bitch, please.

  26. Block the guy complaining by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone please modify ad block plus to filter out any noise this guy generates?

  27. Heard something like this before by portwojc · · Score: 1

    It was really odd as I read this I was thinking to myself this sounds awfully a lot like the arguments that spammers gave me when they found out their account was turned off. Of course it's not fair to lump them into the same category as that because they place these ads on the sites and not just cram your own space full of stuff. I think this guy needs to take a step back though and really look at what some people are doing that may or may not be members and see it's a reason for the ad blocking. The over abundance/overkill of advertising on a web site. The advertisements that cause malware infections. The tracking that goes on. I believe Ad blocking would be less used if advertising were more responsible - even just by solving the malware issue alone.

    1. Re:Heard something like this before by Zephyn · · Score: 1

      It's called spammers vs news.admin.net.abuse.* from 20-odd years ago. Same plot, different actors.

    2. Re:Heard something like this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It certainly IS fair to lump on-line advertisers in with spammers, they are equally slimy & treat you the end user with entire disrespect & disgust...to them you are just a 'wallet', neither of them cares 1 iota about what YOU want & advertisers actually do steal your money via obtrusive adds eating up your data on cell data plans etc.

      So, feel not 1 iota of sympathy for these assholes.

  28. It's not censorship if it's the user's choice by Lendrick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There have been great debates on the differences between government censorship versus censorship by berating or harassing someone until they self-censor, but regardless of how you feel about those things, making a tool that allows a user to alter the content that they view isn't censorship, because everyone still has the ability to view those ads if they choose to do so.

    I'll continue blocking ads as long as they are these things:

    * A vector for malware
    * A huge distraction with animations, bright colors, flashing, jiggling, noise, etc
    * Potentially misleading (fake DOWNLOAD buttons, etc)

    The internet ad industry has dug this hole itself. They've turned the web into a giant shithole, and people are discovering how much better things are when you block them.

  29. Peeing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember when I watched TV and there was a commercial break, I got a peeing break.
    I could also get snacks.

    Automating ads and ignoring ads is a big deal.
    We are ignoring your ads since they were invented!

    1. Re: Peeing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nowadays the commercials are just run over the content. (Reminds me of the "Phineas and Ferb" story where they're making some point and a graphic comes up proclaiming "You're Watching Television!", when Phineas politely requests it be removed because it blocks the visual gag they're making.)

  30. hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by swschrad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    let me tell you about The Market (tm), you idiot. you put something out there. if it sells, you do more. if it tanks, you change things up or quit.

    high-content bandwidth hog ads, especially delaying real content until those gobble gobble bastards are loaded and running, is not wanted. that's why we have ad blockers.

    if you would get your crap together at stop what you're doing, you would be smart in The Market (tm).

    if you piss and moan and toss crap off the podium, block your business when you smell an ad blocker, and refuse to do what The Market (tm) is telling you to do, you will fail, collapse, and go away.

    and you are, so you are a raving idiot. screw you. I am keeping my blockers up.

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    1. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, the irony, By refusing to show content to people who use ad blockers, they are the ones doing the censoring ...

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    2. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by pr0fessor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      more importantly, since when is advertising considered press or a protected form of speech and does this mean I have to allow [insert activist nutjob's opinion] to be plastered all over my computer.

    3. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The First Amendment says you can broadcast it, but it doesn't say that listeners/viewers should somehow be forced to absorb it.

      The idiot in TFA hadn't figured that out yet, apparently.

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    4. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Sperbels · · Score: 2

      It does. We'll also be disabling your remote whenever a commercial comes on so you may not mute, change channel, or turn off your TV and thereby bypass your freedom. Although, not implemented in this version of FreedomTV, version 2.1 will secure you to your couch and deploy Clockwork Orange style specula to ensure you consume our freedomvertisements.

    5. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

      I'm generally cool with is if a site doesn't want to let me participate cuz if my ad blocking is active. I can easily turn it off or white list the site if it is important to me, and also there's often content elsewhere.

    6. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

      Blipverts. High-speed advertisements so designed to get the advertiser's message embedded in your brain before you can grab the remote.

      Ignore those silly rumors about it causing some susceptible people to explode...

    7. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I have no problem turning off ad blocker for sites that provide content I enjoy and I trust enough to that they won't knowing allow virus and malware infested adverts on their site.

    8. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by henni16 · · Score: 1

      I didn't RTFA and don't know if the "freedom of the press" bit is addressed in it, but my guess is that the argument will be more along the lines of the need for an independent press as 4th power. Something like:
      "You can't have an independent press without financial independence. People aren't paying directly for it, so the money will have to come from somewhere else if you don't want to have less press ( == smaller spectrum of voices/opinions). Ads are an independent way to get the necessary money compared to publishing embedded ads/paid content or the press depending on the goodwill of a few rich folks who would be in control of what gets published."

      That's the only thing coming to mind that makes some sense to me, but one obvious problem with that is the assumption that we aren't already at that point.
      And "But things will be even worse!" doesn't convince me because there's no guarantee that things won't get worse anyway:
      Why should commercial news organizations be more likely to go for product quality instead of profit maximisation than other businesses?

    9. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Advertisers have become spoiled by over the air TV and radio with given prices where viewership equals value and blocking adds amounts to ignoring them or going to the restroom when they come on. Online they have to actually serve that ad to someone that isn't actively blocking it to make money.

    10. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      The advertisers aren't really broadcasting, they're insinuating themselves into a point-to-point network connection. When I go and visit a web site with 4K of actual content I end up getting 4MB of advertisements and advertising infrastructure and tracking along for the ride.

    11. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      See episode 2 of Black Mirror, Fifteen Million Credits. Part of the story background involves having to pay to avoid advertising.

    12. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Ignore those silly rumors about it causing some susceptible people to explode...

      Or snowcrash

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    13. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      more importantly, since when is advertising considered press or a protected form of speech and does this mean I have to allow [insert activist nutjob's opinion] to be plastered all over my computer.

      Beyond that, where does it say that even protected speech must be listened to. All that free speech says is that the government cannot take away your right to hold an opinion (specially about politics). It does not mean that I have to listen to some nut jobs opinion. He can voice his nonsense but I can respond by telling him he's a wanker, should shut the fuck up and get out of my establishment.

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    14. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think the U.S.'s First Amendment covers distribution either, only that you are free to express.

    15. Re:hey, son, jam that IAB right up your ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pay to avoid anything, they actually charged him not to resume viewing something at one point in the episode, and I'm pretty sure the penalty fee mounted on each skip.
      Essentially if you weren't actively consuming their BS on the screen you'd wind up as a menial, the obvious conclusion from some points of view of a consumer driven society.

  31. Censorship? by garcia · · Score: 1

    They're absolutely correct; the makers of Adblock Plus are engaging in censorship of digital advertising created by some others and allowing through the digital advertising created by some others, which isn't optimal and thus there are different solutions which do not opt for such fickle behavior.

    However, the key part here is that it isn't by force, it's by choice of the enduser of the product; in direct juxtaposition of being on the receiving end of forced digital advertising delivery.

    In almost all cases, in order for me to view content, I must first opt in, by only my visiting the site in question, to digital advertisements before I am able (if at all) to disable the advertising through payment. Instead of bitching, we just utilize these tools to (UBlock Origin is my preference) to censor our own content.

    I mean, I get it; they are fighting hard to reduce that 30% of Europeans and 10% of Americans blocking ads but enough w/the rhetoric, please.

  32. Interesting. by requerdanos · · Score: 1

    Randall Rothenburg, the president and CEO of the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) has made a speech branding the creators of Adblock Plus (who were banned from the conference where he made this keynote) as "rich and self-righteous," and accused adblockers of subverting freedom of the press.

    The subject of his keynote perhaps sheds some light on why ABP was uninvited from the event. It's like the IAB is declaring war on its own audience, instead of fixing the problems that caused not just a desire for but a need for ABP and similar products in the first place.

    1. Re:Interesting. by O-Deka-K · · Score: 1

      According to Rothenberg:

      AdBlock-Plus took to the digisphere to complain over and over that IAB had “disinvited” them to this convention. That, of course, is as much a lie as the others they routinely try to tell the world. We had never invited them in the first place. They registered for this event online. When we found out, we cancelled the registration and reversed their credit card billing.

      So, they weren't "uninvited". That would be a "lie". No, they were banned outright. Cuz that's better.

  33. Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Of course a Jew would spew vitriol against any technology that threatened him from making even more millions.

    1. Re:Of course by Epsillon · · Score: 1

      Of course, nobody gives the anus of a genus rattus about your anti-semitic rant. It would be just as risible had it been any one of us getting up in public and spouting that tripe after excluding the target from the event and their right to reply.

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    2. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's attempting to use what the phrase "jewish guilt" means. Take a jew's gold he can be controlled. Truth be told? All things, even men, are items to them to be bought or sold.

    3. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course a stupid anonymous troll would post some random non-sequitur anti-Jewish comment.

  34. Yup by wkwilley2 · · Score: 2

    Adblock is the single greatest thing that's ever happened to my measly 5/1 DSL plan.

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    1. Re:Yup by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't forget that it also helps protect you. Ads are a common vector for drive by malware attacks.

  35. Self serving idiots ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speaking of self-entitled assholes, here comes the ad people equating seeing their ads with speech and censorship.

    Lying assholes.

    See, nobody is limiting your freedom of speech, because nobody is in any way obligated to watch your ads. We're certainly not obligated to let you run scripts, set cookies, or perform analytics on us.

    Randal Rothenburg is a self-serving idiot who thinks his desire to sell a product somehow confers an obligation on us to hear about his product.

    Which means I'll block the shit out of any and all ads while I have the technology to do so, because you're not paying for my bandwidth, you're not taking responsibility for the malware you serve, and you're not compensating me at all for anything.

    Fuck you, and your belief that your business model in any way imposes an obligation on people who don't give a shit about your business model.

    Sorry, this is a guy who profits from selling ads with his panties in a bunch about someone who profits by blocking ads, and acting like his fucking rights are being trampled ... you have no fucking "right" to push content to my machine if I've identified you as a parasite. And thankfully, in Germany at least, the courts have agreed.

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  36. Re:Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About 100 million dead people would.

  37. 7/10 FOR CREATIVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock is anti freedom of the press by censoring ad content? Gotta give him some credit for going for those oppression points!

    1. Re:7/10 FOR CREATIVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a jew. Jews try use "jewish guilt". He shows jews can be controlled by taking their gold. Truth be told? To them all things, even men, are to be bought and sold!

  38. Re:Just make sure you visit the site! iab.com by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    BAM! Would you look at that a box I have to close to look at the website.

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  39. He's right by pregister · · Score: 1

    It is a business model predicated on censorship of content.

    That's why I choose to use it. To censor content.

    If it was being forced on me, that'd be a problem.

    It isn't. Long live censorship!

  40. Re:Censorship? What? by geekmux · · Score: 1

    Rothenburg characterized the Adblock Plus team as "operating a business model predicated on censorship of content."

    As a consumer of content, I am allowed to pick the content I consume however I want. That isn't censorship.

    Exactly. As an owner of a TV remote, I am allowed to pick the channel I wish to watch. A TV remote isn't any more of a censorship device than an ad blocker is.

  41. Skip this ad to listen to Randall's speech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Tell ya what, Randall. How about we have someone step-up on stage right in front of you, take the podium, and shout to advertise that there are hot Russian brides waiting in this area for YOU.

    Then, during your speech, we allow various individuals to talk over you to tell us the virtues of the X10 camera. You remember that, Randall? The X10?! Maybe we all want to hear more about that then whatever the hell you're talking about.

    Then, finally, as you finish your speech, the convention security should invite passers-by to "punch the monkey". Better serpentine, Randall, because I have news for you: You are the monkey.

    1. Re:Skip this ad to listen to Randall's speech. by Notabadguy · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points for this.

  42. Users? by rtkluttz · · Score: 2

    Where are the users when adblockers and advertisers duke it out? The adblockers only exist because we have a fundamental right to receive at our computers exactly what we ask for exactly where we ask for it from. I don't trust who CNN, slashdot or any company decides to trust to supply them with ads. I don't want content being pushed to my system from any server except the exact one I chose to receive info from. I reserve the right to use any program of my choice to make it so, whether it is "in-browser" adblockers, hostname blocking, blocking at the firewall, whitelists etc. Get over yourself advertisers, not a damn thing changed when we went from newspapers to web. You buy advertising at your own risk that people won't look at it.

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  43. Yes, I'm the Mafia by jdavidb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Online Ad Czar Berates Adblockers As Freedom-Hating 'Mafia'

    Yes, that's me. I'm a jerk, and I'm the mafia, and I block your ads, and I'm the end of Western Civilization as you know it, and worst of all I don't even care.

    What are you going to do about it?

  44. I want the freedom to block ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's freedom and I want it. Sounds like someone needs to go back to school to learn the definition of freedom...

  45. If this guy could pass laws we'd be in Hell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He likely thinks the off-switch on one's TV is also 'predicated on censorship of content'.

  46. In other news, parasites want cooperative hosts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not going to happen.

  47. Re:Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was a tyranny. Get your facts straight.

  48. those arseholes have the right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    to speak , they do not have any right to be heard.

  49. IAB are Racketeers by Martin+S. · · Score: 1

    They are a criminal conspiracy that engage in unauthorised computer access, counterfeiting and click fraud.

    Counterfeiting - Ads masquerading as download buttons leading to Click Fraud

    They should face RICO charges.

    1. Re:IAB are Racketeers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone with the right amount of funding should sue them and see how far it gets.

      Honestly, it's just a game to them. Their only concern is making money, which they do by getting unwanted content in front of your eyes. They'll do anything they can to insure that, and to increase the amount you see so that their profits go up. I probably wouldn't run AdBlock but the damned ads have become too invasive. Slowing down content load just to keep ads in front of your eyes longer, autostarting video and audio which pops up all the time on websites, ads floating across your screen in front of the content you're trying to view, and a hundred other ways that make your device slow and/or annoying as hell to use. If advertisers and these delivery guys could stop doing all that, I'd probably dump AdBlock.

      Some sites now detect AdBlock and deny you access until you unload it. Ha. Like that's gonna happen. I just leave the site. If they want my attention on their ads, then find a less annoying way to do it.

      We went through this with television for years. Advertisers convinced broadcasters to adjust audio so that advertisements were always louder than the content. It got to the point where a quiet television could be heard 3 rooms away during commercial breaks. Consumer annoyance with that practice helped resolve that, but it took many years to make that happen, along with FCC involvement.

      We don't need that with the Internet. I block your most annoying ads and if you can detect I'm doing so, you're free to work with your advertisers to fix their ads. Or, conversely, you're free to block me from your content. In which case, you lose a set of eyes that your customers (advertisers) are paying for. Eventually the advertisers will wise up.

    2. Re:IAB are Racketeers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We went through this with television for years. Advertisers convinced broadcasters to adjust audio so that advertisements were always louder than the content. It got to the point where a quiet television could be heard 3 rooms away during commercial breaks. Consumer annoyance with that practice helped resolve that, but it took many years to make that happen, along with FCC involvement.

      And some of us solved that problem by ditching TV altogether. Advertisers need to learn this important lesson and learn it fast: if you annoy us too much eventually we will just stop watching. We have no obligation to watch your drivel. It really is that simple.

  50. Re:In other news, parasites want cooperative hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't the people who want free content without viewing ads bigger parasites?

  51. What a petty, puerile little scrotum by Epsillon · · Score: 1

    Someone has ignored his sky-fairy bestowed right to make money by filling up our screens with flashy bullshit so he's going to scream, or possibly hold his breath until he turns blue.

    Diddums.

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  52. "Rich and self-righteous" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Delicious irony!

  53. Re:Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It was Tyranny caused by communism, idiot.

  54. Re:The sad thing is by dshk · · Score: 0

    Yet these websites choose not to for two reasons. The first is laziness.

    No. Until now the percentage of ad blocker users were low. Web sites accepted that, saying that a non-paying user also has some benefit, namely he brings paying users. Today ad-blockers become so popular that the loss affects the bottom line. Moreover an ad-blocking user likely brings only other non-paying user, therefore he is a pure loss. I predict that within a year there will be serious changes and polite requests for ad-blockers to either subscribe or turn off ad-blockers become usual.

  55. When servants rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe try and actually advertise instead of offending?
    IMO, you should probably be shot all the hate you've sold.

  56. Good Lord... by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

    ... that speech is such an incredible mound of crazy that I don't even know where to begin.

    When you get back to your office, look around you at work, and pay attention. For these are your friends and colleagues who are under attack. Their skin is black, and brown, and ochre, as well as white. They speak Mandarin, and Spanish, and Hindu, and Farsi, as well as English. They celebrate Diwali, and Kwanzaa, and Ramadan, as well as Christmas and Chanukkah. And they are under assault.

    And when they are under attack, you are under attack. For they are the future of the American economy. They are the future of consumption. They are the future of advertising and media. They are your childrens’ classmates, your in-laws, the parents of your future grandchildren.

    OK ... so who, exactly, has these fine folks "under assault"?

    It is for this very reason – the virtuous circle that links freedom to advertise to freedom of the press to freedom of expression to economic freedom – that Article 19, the influential NGO, says: “The right to freedom of expression covers any kind of information or ideas, not only contributions to political, cultural or artistic debate but also mundane and commercially motivated expressions.”

    And this is why I hate the ad-block profiteers.

    Evil is revealed!

    Shine, an Israeli startup trying to sell ad-blocking software to mobile phone networks, is backed prominently by Horizons Ventures, the VC arm of Hong Kong billionaire Li Ka-Shing, and run by his girlfriend. His other investments include Spotify and Facebook.

    The latest ad-blocking company is a Web browser startup called “Brave.” It was launched by former Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich, whose last major investment was in banning gay marriage in California. His business model not only strips advertisements from publishers’ pages – it replaces them with his own for-profit ads.

    Notice how quickly we went from cultural inclusiveness to blaming the Chinese and the Israelis (but gay marriage!)

    They may attempt to dignify their practices with such politically correct phrases as “reasonable advertising,” “responsible advertising,” and “acceptable ads”; and they can claim as loudly as they want that they seek “constructive rapport” with other stakeholders. But in fact, they are engaged in the techniques of The Big Lie

    I guess he knows the Big Lie when he sees it.

    Well, in their race to the bottom and frenzy for investment, the ad-block profiteers seem more intent on killing each other than on killing advertising

    Oh, God. It's the ad blockers who are in a race to the bottom...

    But more importantly, an embrace of LEAN principles will bring this industry back to the rational center – focused on making money, to be sure, but cognizant that successful businesses require long-term attention to and concern for the users themselves. Remember that those users represent all races and creeds, and that their happiness success means your success and happiness, too.

    Also, kittens! And babies! And kittens!

  57. Huh... by JDLazarus · · Score: 1

    I haven't been running an ad blocker for a bit - I think I'm going to now. Ad blockers are a choice, not foisted upon us. Kind of the opposite of ads themselves. Also, as was stated earlier here; since when are ads content? Ads are the stuff we sift through to find content.

  58. Good! by rannala · · Score: 2

    Looks like adblockers are working then.

  59. Love by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    I love my Ad Blocker!!!!!

  60. Hey, Randall by Jawnn · · Score: 2

    I believe that we can agree that freedom is good. Right? You're free to riddle your site with shit that makes the user experience miserable, even dangerous. You own the web site, after all. By the same token, I am free to configure my software to behave as I see fit. If I want to configure it to make my visit to your web site suck less, it's my right. After all, I own that software, not you. One would think that an intelligent man like yourself would get that and, moreover, understand the motivation to pursue technologies like ad blockers and do a little soul-searching about how you're doing things. But that's not what's happening. Instead, you're lashing out at people and organizations that are solving the problems you created. Wake TFU, m'kay?

  61. You seem to have missed their "logic" by s.petry · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Just like many of the other SJW rants, this is not about freedom to express. It is about a freedom not to listen to someone else when they do. If you agree with them and have the same opinion that is a start, but in order to dominate you must squash all opposing opinions.

    While the concept of squashing dissent is not new (check just about every Government in history) is not new, the form we see now is akin to McCarthyism. Slam any opposing opinion by claiming that _their_ opinion is hate speech which needs to be silenced while yours is altruistic holy fumes.

    I think another difference is that as we have continually dumb-ed down society (sorry, you educators hate the truth) it has become more and more "normal" to silence opinions that don't fit a narrative. The people owning the narrative also own the media, and also own education. Until we have some form of revolt, it will get progressively worse.

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    1. Re:You seem to have missed their "logic" by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      I agree, SJW is very relevant here and adds meaningful context to this issue./s

    2. Re:You seem to have missed their "logic" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is not about freedom to express. It is about a freedom not to listen to someone else when they do.

      Are you talking about the freedom of expression? The one that allows people to freely participate in groups of their choosing - and as you put, not of their choosing? It also lets people form groups to promote the interests of that group. This "SJW" crisis that you've manufactured is just groups of people who don't want to associate and private businesses saying "wow, it's in our best interests to promote this group of consumer!" What it sounds like you're talking about is the government mandating private business - which is what I consider the opposite of freedom.

      I'll give you a quick test to see if your freedom of speech has been taken away online: step 1: go to stormfront.org, if it is still up, you still have freedom of speech.

    3. Re:You seem to have missed their "logic" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ask almostalladsblocked shill AmicusNYCL why he's contradicting himself when shown with egg on his face here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... I know the real answer. Apk dusted him using his own words with real evidences to the contrary and he's supressing the freedom of speech and expression he raved on himself like all SJW types do. They're the worst abusers of it everytime!

    4. Re:You seem to have missed their "logic" by s.petry · · Score: 1

      this is not about freedom to express. It is about a freedom not to listen to someone else when they do.

      Are you talking about the freedom of expression? The one that allows people to freely participate in groups of their choosing - and as you put, not of their choosing? It also lets people form groups to promote the interests of that group. This "SJW" crisis that you've manufactured is just groups of people who don't want to associate and private businesses saying "wow, it's in our best interests to promote this group of consumer!" What it sounds like you're talking about is the government mandating private business - which is what I consider the opposite of freedom.

      I'll give you a quick test to see if your freedom of speech has been taken away online: step 1: go to stormfront.org, if it is still up, you still have freedom of speech.

      Your test is simply asinine and unrealistic. Losing freedom of speech is does not require that you go to jail for saying something. It requires that a person becomes intimidated and afraid to speak. TFA is about ads having priority over your choice of what to see, read, and hear. On sites like Slashdot you will hear argument against this type of thing, but you won't be hearing it on the evening news. There are people who wish to control everything you read, see, and hear. It's about power, plain and simple.

      I gave a hint at the connection between the controlled narrative and what we are seeing in media and politics. There is no "manufactured" SJW crisis, there is a fixed narrative which is being spread. You don't have to connect the dots or like the connections, but they are surely there. Anyone who wishes can listen to politicians, watch the evening news, and listen to the "extremists" which we are told don't matter and see the connections.

      --

      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

  62. C*nt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd call him a cunt, but that would be rude to cunts

    1. Re:C*nt by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points then I would mod parent up!

      --
      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  63. He's president/CEO of an advertising organization by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

    An *advertising* organization. Why is anyone here taking anything in that speech at face value?

  64. Re:Only in America by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

    i think you're confusing communist with socialist, or in bernie sanders' case, social democracy. if you took a poll of everybody in the world I think communism would be considered bad.

  65. thanks for the recomendation by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had expected that this ad blocker software was ineffective and didn't bother with it, but after this high recommendation by someone in the industry I'm going to install it.

    --
    I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
  66. So the IAB decided to block someone else's ad by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    To make sure I understand this:

    * Ads that IAB members send to my browser are expression of free speech, and by blocking them I am violating the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
    * Real people from AB+ attending a conference are ... umm, not sure what their speech counts as ... and by blocking them from attending the IAB is ... umm ... not violating something something?

    No, I guess I don't understand after all.

    --
    Nope, no sig
  67. He Answers Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just had a nice exchange with Randall. You can look up his email online.

    Feel free to explain how the 1st Amendment applies to the government, not you or your CPU. And remind him that you learned this is junior high school.

  68. profit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    umm how is ad-blockign profiting? from donations? because i didn't pay for any of the ad blockers i have ever used.

    so here is a man that is complaining that he isn't making enough money from customers he charges and that the ad blocking companies are making way to much profits from donations... let that sink in for a bit, there are companies making a profit from a pay what you will software company while his service industry is losing profits.

    Excuse me sir, but maybe you are offering the wrong product or service shouldn't you be more focused on finding new ways to serve your customers (companies looking to advertise) given how the market is changing. after all the head of an advertisers group should understand how markets work should they not? how are you instilling confidence in your industry by complaining about market change instead of trying to adapt to it?

  69. Business model? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet the business model of running up to your door, screaming into your house, then changing the locks on your door is ok? Because that's the physical equivalent of ads online, a crazy person screaming at random people, breaking into their homes and changing the locks, demanding they walk down a different street to get to the store.

  70. Ad blockers are like closing your ears... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when someone you don't want to hear, is speaking.

    This is not censorship. This is filtering out the nonsense.

    So the IAB believes nobody has the right to say "NO" - everyone must be heard and you cannot close your ears.

    RIDICULOUS!

    They want to shove their viewpoint (ads) down your throat and you should not have the right to object.

  71. Re:Censorship? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should ask him if he uses a spam filter.

  72. Dear Randall Rothenburg, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be a giant cunt all your life.

  73. No death threats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard he was SJW, or GG or something....

  74. Eat it, eat it raw! Rah rah rah that's the spirit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you, Randall Rothenburg, the president and CEO of the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB). My host file lists your servers as localhost.

  75. Time to pull the trigger by macbass · · Score: 1

    iOS ad blocker app, here I come. What a freaking idiot!

  76. If ads didn't misbehave.... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they didn't interrupt,
    block my view,
    stop my train of thought,
    jump my page up and down and around...,
    give me viruses,
    eat up precious bytes that *I* must pay for with their video and audio...

    If they did what they do in newspapers. Stay in little, quiet, static sized blocks, doing nothing but waiting for me to click if I'm interested, there would be no adblockers, nor need for any.

    The online advertising industry has brought this on themselves. They have nobody but themselves to blame.

    --
    Please do not read this sig. Thank you.
    1. Re:If ads didn't misbehave.... by GerryGilmore · · Score: 1

      While I do have mod points, you're well on your way to 5 anyway and I wanted to applaud your stance whole-heartedly. Look, I am a capitalist pig and get that the website owners need some form of income to pay for their costs and - yes - profit. And, I also get that ads can be very beneficial (I've seen ads for stuff I didn't know existed, clicked, bought, etc.). HOWEVER.....I'm reminded of the early days of the internet trade shows. First, the booth-babes who knew next to nothing, but were otherwise inoffensive. Within 2 years it was nothing less than a porn show until the organizers finally put the kabosh on it. Internet ads today have become like that, but even worse (being able to fuck with your computer) and there's no authority to shut them down. Hence ad-blockers. If they ever learn their lesson, the need for ad-blockers would evaporate. But, as John Belushi said: "But Nnnnnooooooo...."

  77. Not all that unfair a comparison... by pla · · Score: 1

    Because if I ever thought I could get away with it, I'd drag Randall Rothenburg (hell, include 98% of his entire industry in that) into a dark alley and kneecap the worthless piece of shit.

    And I'd still hold the moral high-ground vs what he does for a living.

    1. Re:Not all that unfair a comparison... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because if I ever thought I could get away with it, I'd drag Randall Rothenburg (hell, include 98% of his entire industry in that) into a dark alley and kneecap the worthless piece of shit.

      While you are at it, would you mind kneecapping that APK guy, too?

      And I'd still hold the moral high-ground vs what he does for a living.

      Indeed. Soldier on, Internet Tough Guy!

    2. Re:Not all that unfair a comparison... by pla · · Score: 1

      I did say "if I thought I could get away with it".

      For all I know, Rothenburg could wipe the floor with me. Only expressing the will, not the ability.

    3. Re:Not all that unfair a comparison... by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Nah - just lock them in a slowly tumbling room playing Viagra and Sanitary Pad ads at 90dB all days.

      --
      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
    4. Re:Not all that unfair a comparison... by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Anyone knows who that spamming APK guy is?

      --
      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
    5. Re:Not all that unfair a comparison... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep projecting you work for apk's inferior do less yet use more inferior competitors or you're defending your bad choices in them. Either way you project fear of apk and you know your time's short as advertisers are projecting in this article's premise along with projecting you're unable to get the better of apk by validly technically proving facts he posts with reputable source backing behind them wrong. Apk posts on topic to users of inferior crippled easily clarityray blocked inefficient do less yet use more resources inferior competition, and you call it spam? It's valid truthful information. You know. What you advertisers do not use. False accusations are all you've got against truth and fact apk puts out in favor of hosts giving users more speed, security, reliability and anonymity online for free. So your crap is pure bullshit and you know it. You simply know you can't win against hosts that do a lot more for a lot less and aren't sold out to not work properly like most easily blocked by clarityray browser addons like adblock or ghostery and even ublock that uses hosts proving apk's point but it doesn't take care of more speed in hardcodes and avoiding dns yet resolving addresses faster than remote dns can and hosts avoid dns security issues like redirect poisonings or going down which it does quite a lot. Hosts lighten those dns server loads so they have less chance of going down so admins of dns would like that too since hosts and a good dns like OpenDNS compliment one another to no end, and you know it or you do now. Antivirus and antispyware are also inferior. They only are effective once you're infected. That's dumb. Hosts deflect away that possibility since you can't be infected by what you can't touch and unlike antivirus resident, hosts speed you up 2 ways in hosts hardcodes for speed and reliability with protection and of course, adblocking, blocking ALL ads, not just some due to bribery of browser addons that are easily blocked by clarityray.

    6. Re:Not all that unfair a comparison... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Because apk's kneecapped advertisers and malware makers? You projecting you work for apk's inferior do less yet use more inferior competitors defending your bad choices. You project fear of apk. You know your time's short as advertisers are projecting in this article's premise along with projecting you're unable to get the better of apk by validly technically proving facts he posts with reputable source backing behind them wrong. Apk posts on topic to users of inferior crippled easily clarityray blocked inefficient do less yet use more resources inferior competition, and you call it spam? It's valid truth information. You know: What advertisers do not use. False accusations are all you've got against truth and fact apk puts out in favor of hosts giving users more speed, security, reliability and anonymity online for free. So your crap is pure bullshit and you know it. You know you can't win against hosts that do a lot more for a lot less and aren't sold out to not work properly like most easily blocked by clarityray browser addons like adblock or ghostery and even ublock that uses hosts proving apk's point but it doesn't take care of more speed in hardcodes and avoiding dns yet resolving addresses faster than remote dns can and hosts avoid dns security issues like redirect poisonings or going down which it does quite a lot. Hosts lighten dns server loads so they have less chance of going down so admins of dns would like that too since hosts and a good dns like OpenDNS compliment one another to no end, and you know it or you do now. Antivirus and antispyware are also inferior. They only are effective once you're infected. That's dumb. Hosts deflect away that possibility since you can't be infected by what you can't touch and unlike antivirus resident, hosts speed you up 2 ways in hosts hardcodes for speed and reliability with protection and of course, adblocking, blocking ALL ads, not just some due to bribery of browser addons that are clarityray blocked.

  78. Re:Only in America by retchdog · · Score: 2

    Many of my colleagues from former Soviet bloc countries have asked me, at some point, what in the hell Americans mean when they pejoratively call something "communist", because as far as they could tell it had very little to do with actual communism as they experienced it.

    --
    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  79. It is mine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is my browser and my internet connection, so i decide what resources i load and which i don't.

    End of story.

  80. Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Censorship is someone else telling you what you can/cannot watch. That would, indeed, be "subverting freedom of the press".

    Ad-blockers, on the other hand, are us deciding what we will watch, or not watch.

  81. Re:Only in America by WindBourne · · Score: 1, Troll

    Of course, nobody in the soviet bloc or even china has ever experienced communism. They experienced totalitarianism and China still does. Many would argue that so does Russia. Regardless, we have not seen large scale communism in the world yet.

    --
    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  82. I got nuthin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was going to post something witty, or smartassed, but...I can't. I just....way to go Randall. In this situation, given the level at which his statements are hilariously flawed and arrogant, I just have nothing.

    1. Re:I got nuthin by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      He's a proof that the stereotype isn't a stereotype but truth.

      --
      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  83. Re:Only in America by retchdog · · Score: 1

    Okay; it had very little to do with the nominal communism which they experienced.

    --
    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  84. Hmm. Sounds like a GOP by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Always whining and never have anything intelligent to say except to make wild ass claims that THEIR rights are being violated and the constitution thrown out.

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    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  85. Got me interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting thread. I think I'll try out some ad blocker now. After all, if the industry is bitching, they must have become pretty good already! Cool! (Streisand effect, anybody?)

  86. Re:Only in America by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, nobody in the soviet bloc or even china has ever experienced communism. They experienced totalitarianism

    Communism + Reality = Totalitarianism

  87. Get your freedoms right by s13g3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have every right to censor what content I do or do not want to see. I have every right to mute annoying TV ads, skip them, or walk away from the screen, and with my personal computer and internet service, if I want to use - what could arguably said security-focused - tools like AdBlocker to help prevent my internet connection (be it landline, or the much more usage-sensitive wireless/mobile options) from being bogged down with awful, intrusive, and annoying ads, and secure myself against the ad-space that is regularly exploited by malware and the like, that's my right.

    The advertiser has every right to speak, to put their speech out there for all to hear, and to not have to fear government censorship (within certain limits). They do NOT have any right to force me to hear their speech when I don't want to, especially when it is not just on a public street corner somewhere I can choose not to go, but is being piped into my home. Just as I have the right to choose who I let in my front door, I have the right to choose who and what I let in my internet doors. If the hosting site suffers too much and doesn't like it, they can always consider a subscription service, or building their content in a different way, and then I can choose to get my content someplace that exercise some restraint over their advertisers and keep it reasonable.

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    "Inveniemus Viam Aut Faciemus" 'We will find a way... Or we will make one!' --Hannibal of Carthage
  88. Re:Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Communism can't cause a tyranny to happen, idiot.

  89. The spokesman also... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    ...complained about people taking self-defense courses, saying they infringed on his freedom to beat them up.

  90. Re:Only in America by HiThere · · Score: 1

    Not only have we not, we won't. Socialism can be a workable large scale system, Communism and communism cannot. Small-scale communism can work reasonably well, though it requires a charismatic leader and a strong belief system. The Oneida community worked for generations. I have not run across any example of Communism (i.e., Marxism) working. I believe that it is probably unworkable at any scale beyond, perhaps, the individual.

    I expect that the next dominant form of government will be either a socialism or some variety of monarchy. Either may also be totalitarian, which is orthogonal to the democratic/monarchist axis. (So is socialism. Socialisms can be either democratic or monarchical.)

    Please note: I say monarchy rather than dictatorship because persisting dictatorships inevitably turn into monarchies as the generations pass. Also note that I left out oligarchy. Oligarchy seems to be the persistent substrate on which these other distinctions float.

    --

    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  91. Capitalism 101 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If your product is hated by so many people, you don't cry and ask the government to force people to consume your product, you fucking change your product.

  92. commentsubject by Falos · · Score: 1

    User discretion isn't censorship, it's selective viewing. For instance, I can admonish them to fuck off, get cancer, and die, but can't compel their discretion to actually accept my imperative.

    If you deliberately go and make your site display publicly accessible content, then it's hard to play a victim card when people publicly access it, incl. selectively. If you want your site conditional, make it fucking conditional and rope off the paywall.

  93. Re:The sad thing is by Tharkkun · · Score: 1

    Yet these websites choose not to for two reasons. The first is laziness.

    No. Until now the percentage of ad blocker users were low. Web sites accepted that, saying that a non-paying user also has some benefit, namely he brings paying users. Today ad-blockers become so popular that the loss affects the bottom line. Moreover an ad-blocking user likely brings only other non-paying user, therefore he is a pure loss. I predict that within a year there will be serious changes and polite requests for ad-blockers to either subscribe or turn off ad-blockers become usual.

    No. What will happen is people will stop visiting these websites if they can't block the ads. There's always other places to get the news, stories, etc.

  94. INTERACTIVE advertising bureau. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first word says it all.
    Fuck you and your interactive advertisements.
    Static ads or PISS OFF.

    I only allow static and text ads.
    The only exception is video and audio ads on video and audio websites.

  95. Re:Only in America by blue9steel · · Score: 1

    And won't any time soon. The basic design is flawed.

  96. Forbes by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    Earlier today, I got that message from Forbes asking me to turn off my ad blocker. Not going to happen! If there's any "censorship" going on, it's from Forbes, not the adblocker.

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    Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
  97. Freedom is not for us, apparently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While this may, in fact, be "...a business model predicated on censorship of content," it is an entirely opt-in business model. The fact that it causes such consternation to you and your industry should tell you something about how the general public views your contributions to society.

  98. There's an issue here we're overlooking. by seoras · · Score: 1

    Yes, I too laughed at this guy's comments. He's a self serving ass hole and sounds like he's uses the same script writer as Donald Trump.

    However....
    Let's look at this AdBlocker phenomenon, which is obviously having major effects on that industry if the big guys in it are screaming like pigs in an abattoir.

    I've written a couple of Apps one of which is free to download but with IAP to unlock the juicy bits.
    It's suffered from 1 star reviews telling me how much I suck not making it 100%, a few demanding I make it Ad funded instead.
    Why write Apps at all when you can't make a living out of it?
    So I just released an update with interstitial full screen ads to see if it generates better income and prevents user frustration.

    If the money isn't coming in 2 things happen. 1) find revenue elsewhere OR 2) Pull the content
    If AdBlock+ is working that well it could cause long term damage to the quality and quantity of the content you are consuming.
    How often do we see here on /. a "pay wall" moan about an article?

    AdBlock+ doesn't prevent Ads inside Apps?
    So you may end up seeing content moving to Apps as a ring fence to force you to see their ads and give up your analytics.

    I've personally not installed any ad blocking on my phone, tablet or computers as I don't find Ads a problem.
    Sympathy for the Devil? Perhaps. Someone has to pay. I'm just saying it could be worse.

    1. Re:There's an issue here we're overlooking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've personally not installed any ad blocking on my phone, tablet or computers as I don't find Ads a problem.
      Sympathy for the Devil? Perhaps. Someone has to pay. I'm just saying it could be worse.

      You'll change that tune the first time your machine gets a drive-by infection from an ad network from an unpatched vulnerability or some other hole in the security. I had a user a few years ago where I was rebuilding the machine every few months due to drive-by infections. Switched to FlashBlock and NoScript and the infections went away for years at a time.

      Did you visit any of the sites served by AOL's ad network in the last month? Oops, there they go serving up malware again because they can't be bothered to secure their services.

  99. Predicated on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My right to not be forced to watch an AD I have no interest in

    Frankly, I can't remember the last time I bought a product directly after watching an Ad, or even as an indirect result of watching an Ad. I'm not saying I'm unaffected by Ads, I just can't remember a time where I specifically bought a product because it was advertised to me.

  100. He uses one himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How could he not use an adblocker, I would imagine it to be pretty easy then to hack into his computer, I would imagine his computer network to be infested with nasties. give it some time we'll here some interesting things about this Im sure.

  101. Re:Only in America by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

    Small-scale communism can work reasonably well, though it requires a charismatic leader and a strong belief system.

    Similar goes for basically any form of "government" though, even a total anarchy or a full blown dictatorship. It'll last as long as a significant portion of individuals (and/or the correct specific individuals, depending on what form is being used) in the community in question are on board with making whatever flavor of "government" or lack thereof work well.

  102. Re:The sad thing is by HiThere · · Score: 1

    Yes/No. If you want to follow "Starts with a Bang", you may not have an alternative to Forbes. Still, the argument is usually true.

    --

    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  103. Well call me a freedom-hater.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... because I hate your malware infested crap shooting flashy lights on my articles and other items.
    You get the flashy flashy noisy crap and the malware out, MAYBE I'll turn off my adblock

  104. One Weird Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Learn how to cook your golden goose with this one weird trick...

    captcha: increase

  105. Advertisers dug their own grave by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

    Static text? Fine. The bandwidth required is so negligible that you would not even notice if you removed them from the page.

    Static images? Fine. The bandwidth required is so low that you would probably not really notice if you removed them from the page. As long as they stay in their place and don't try to block the content I'm reading, this is fine most of the time.

    Animated images, HTML5/Javascript, Flash, Java, Video ads? It's so much worst because those waste a lot of bandwidth, distract us from reading the page and waste CPU cycles and battery life.

    If we want to buy your products and services, we'll notice the ad. If we're interested, we'll click on it. Otherwise, all you're doing is wasting everyone's time and ressources including your own.

  106. Re:The sad thing is by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

    There is the problem as it already exists services can ignore ad blocker, not allow ad blocker, or politely ask for you to turn off ad blocker with the option to subscribe for an ad free experience and as an online advertising firm this is a bad situation because it is going to cut into their revenue no matter which. They are left with finding a way to compel people to want to view their adverts such as adding value somehow or find away to get rid of ad blocker.

  107. Re:The sad thing is by dshk · · Score: 1

    There's always other places to get the news, stories, etc.

    I am afraid you are a bit too optimist. Most of the known web is ad supported. The only major site which is ad free is Wikipedia. But I do pay to Wikipedia every year. If you mean that you go to a subscription based alternative, than you are still too optimistic: in that case you and me are the only two people I know who intend to pay for an ad-free website. This will not be enough :)

  108. Gosh, everyone's channeling Che these days. by hey! · · Score: 2

    I was watching a video of the Bundy crowd tearing down a SCADA camera at an electrical substation (which I suspect was a utility co camera they mistook for an FBI surveillance camera), railing against a federal government "that serves the rich and elite of this Earth."

    Now this guy reached into his bag of insults for something to smear the ad blocker developers with and came up with "rich and self-righteous."

    No wonder Bernie Sanders is doing so well; he was so far behind marching to his personal different drummer that now he's out in front of everyone else on the track. If it's a three way general election between Trump, Bloomberg and Sanders, Sanders will cream them. All he has to do is stand up on the debate podium, wave his hand in the direction of the other two and say, "I rest my case."

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    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  109. Censorship of content... by Tribeca1248 · · Score: 1

    I guess I'm in cahoots with those darned censors, then. And since I'm the one who is the intended target of the content, I feel I have the freedom to avoid looking at said content. And if that content insists on me looking at it, I have the right to deny that intrusion into my field of vision. The right of the website operator to derive income from imposed content clashes with my right to look at what I want to look at, and only what I want to look at. I don't see any particularly obvious solution to this except ad blocking software. There's very little in the way of ad-sponsored content that I find valuable enough to subject myself to ads for products and services I have no desire to use. If I want something, I will search for it. I do not click through on ads placed on websites I visit - that's one thing ad operators can count on. In that respect, I am not a set of eyeballs they will get any return on. Their wares are dead to me.

  110. crap adds by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    Adds aren't comments or content, they are crap.

    (on the Slashdot page)
    Ads Disabled
    Thanks again for helping make Slashdot great!

    the offer was immediately taken up.

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    Go well
    1. Re:crap adds by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 1

      I actually held off on disabling ads on Slashdot for several years, they originally didn't bother me and sometimes had things I wanted to know more about (hmm new model of firewall, could be worth a look). Then Dice took over and I started seeing ads that belonged on Yahoo or AOL (doctors hate him, yes that one), and I disabled advertising because it started to be distracting and took away from the site.

      That is a problem with a lot of these mass advertisement campaigns, they do not take into account the website audience and shotgun junk all over the place and all over the page. If they had kept their readers in mind and tried to focus on products they might be interested in they would have a higher click through rate and the readers would be happier too. But instead right now it is bottom of the barrel ad campaigns and I am suspecting a below average success rate compared to other sites even. #1 in marketing: know your audience.

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      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the (supposed) good of its victims may be the most oppressive
    2. Re:crap adds by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Wait until you get the APK ads on Slashdot main page.

      (Ducks and hides)

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      If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
    3. Re:crap adds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You project you work for his inferior sold out to advertisers competitors or you're defending your bad choices in them. Either way you project fear of apk and you know your time's short as advertisers are projecting in this article's premise along with projecting you're unable to get the better of apk by validly technically proving facts he posts with reputable source backing behind them wrong. You know you can't win against hosts that do a lot more for a lot less and aren't sold out to not work properly like most easily blocked by clarityray browser addons like adblock or ghostery and even ublock that uses hosts proving apk's point but it doesn't take care of more speed in hardcodes and avoiding dns yet resolving addresses faster than remote dns can and hosts avoid dns security issues like redirect poisonings or going down which it does quite a lot. Hosts lighten those dns server loads so they have less chance of going down so admins of dns would like that too and you know it or you do now. Antivirus and antispyware are also inferior. They only are effective once you're infected. That's dumb. Hosts deflect away that possibility since you can't be infected by what you can't touch and unlike antivirus resident, hosts speed you up 2 ways in hosts hardcodes for speed and reliability with protection and of course, adblocking, blocking ALL ads, not just some due to bribery of browser addons that are easily blocked by clarityray.

  111. I like the title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Online Ad Czar Berates Adblockers As Freedom-Hating 'Mafia'

    Thieves guild berates locksmiths as freedom-hating 'mafia'.

    (Why is every word of the title capitalized? Where are the Slashdot editors?)

    Randall Rothenburg, you don't have a right to an audience, you don't have a right to visitors for an ad-bloated website. If your product is so valuable, please use a pay-wall so those visitors can pay their dues in cold, hard cash.

    I'm sending you a one-year supply of the 'Las Vegas review-journal': Remember it's your duty to read every classified.

  112. Hipocrit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they have no issue censoring you or I for exercising our free speech, but if you censor out their adds, their money, THEN they have issue with it.

  113. AB+, NoScript, Flash disabled, DNT, and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. Slashdot is actually readable. Now if they would just fix their content problem.

  114. For the BEST adblocker & far more? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  115. Access to my eyeballs is not "free" by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

    Why do they seem to think they have the right to force my eyelids open ala-Clockwork Orange? You want my eyeballs buddy, it's gonna cost ya...

    1. Re:Access to my eyeballs is not "free" by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Why do they seem to think they have the right to force my eyelids open ala-Clockwork Orange?

      But his argument was:

      In all advanced societies around the world, advertising has been a central contributor to assuring such freedom and diversity of expression and economic action.

      This fact has been well documented in every major history of media in the United States. As Princeton Professor Paul Starr wrote in his Pulitzer Prize-winning history, âoeThe Creation of the Media,â âoeAmerican journalism became more of an independent and innovative source of information just as it became more of a means of advertising and publicity.â

      It is for this very reason â" the virtuous circle that links freedom to advertise to freedom of the press to freedom of expression to economic freedom â" that Article 19, the influential NGO, says: âoeThe right to freedom of expression covers any kind of information or ideas, not only contributions to political, cultural or artistic debate but also mundane and commercially motivated expressions.â

      And this is why I hate the ad-block profiteers.

      To me it looks like he is speaking specifically of organisations that make profits off adblocking, like adblock plus, not about forcing your gaze. He is talking about maintaining funding for projects, not forcing your gaze.

      --
      Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
    2. Re:Access to my eyeballs is not "free" by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

      The idea that ad supported "journalism" becomes more of an independent and innovative source of diverse information and a "virtuous circle" is disproved by our current corporate-shill megaglomerate owned media. It's turned all the major news organizations into advertisers pretending to be journalists, and the "information" they spew, pure propaganda.

      But with regards to making profits off of ad blocking, if anyone is paying for ad blockers other than contributions to open-source efforts, they're idiots. Ad blocking is not all that hard, ad blocking products are as much of a scam as advertising is for the most part. I haven't watched cable or any of the mainstream "broadcast" (if they still call it that), content for years and years now, my tolerance for any of that is near-zero and fortunately, I've not missed it in the least. I rarely encounter ads for anything, I don't open the door for solicitors, and I maintain that is MY freedom to prohibit that, my attention simply, is not "free to abuse."

  116. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  117. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  118. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  119. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  120. What? by Toshito · · Score: 1

    If I buy a newspaper, and I hire someone to remove all ads before I read it, is it censorship? No, of course not. I can do what I like with the newspaper, including burning it, using it in a bird's cage, etc...

    When I request a web page, and the server sends it to MY computer, MY browser can render it any way I like. I can add an extension to remove all ads so that what's appearing on MY display, using MY computer, is how I like it. I can even write my own browser, and interpret and display the page any way I like, just like I can cut out every article in the newspaper et rearrange it any way I like.

    What's the difference? Cutting out paper ads, or cutting out digital ads, when the data is on my computer I can do whatever I like with it (except of course I have to respect copyright, so I can't redistribute it).

    --
    Try it! Library of Babel
    1. Re:What? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      The problem is that you have already bought and paid for the newspaper. You can do whatever you want with it.

      You have not bought and paid for the web page you are viewing.

      Hosting costs money, especially if you are serving to thousands of people a day.

      I think what we really need is a new model. I think that sites should just start blocking users if they don't disable their ad blocker. See how easy that is? Everyone wins then.

      If you are a regular visitor to a site, the least you can do is help pay for it's upkeep. Unfortunately, it means you might have to view some ads.

      If you are concerned about malware, by all means, run a script blocking tool like NoScript.

      --
      My eyes reflect the stars and a smile lights up my face.
    2. Re:What? by Toshito · · Score: 1

      Yes of course that was a bad example.

      What about a free newspaper, like those distributed in the subway?

      I can rip off all ads before reading it, once it's in my hands I can do whatever I like with it (apart from copying and distributing the articles, that's not permited of course).

      I have not bought and paid the webpage I'm viewing, my browser requested the content at an address, and the web server sent me the content. For free. Now that this content is on my computer, I can do what I like with it. I can delete it in part or in whole, I can choose to display any part of it on my browser, I can save it to read it later, I can look at the source code, I can display it using my own CSS to alter how it's looking...

      It's MY computer, that I bought myself. I'm the administrator on this computer, I can choose what I want to display, what code I want to execute, what files I want to delete, save, alter, etc.

      Now if they want to have total control on how the page is displayed, they're welcome to lend me a computer where they are the administrator, they use their electricity, and their internet connections.

      I pay for my hardware and ressources, I'm the only one who can decide how they're used.

      My computer is private property, the processor, RAM and storage space is part of my private domain, nobody can decide what's going on in my house as long as I obay all laws.

      So, like you said, if the content creator or distributor doesn't want me to display the content like I want, their only option is NOT to send it to my computer. I have no problem with that, it's not like I will miss it.

      --
      Try it! Library of Babel
  121. Dear Randall.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you hear that sound, Randall?

    It's the world's smallest violin, playing a sad little tune for you while Nelson goes "ha ha" on a loop.

    I had a web page that came up blank today. I realized I had ghostery turned off. Turned it back on, it works OK.

    Ghostery + ABP + Yesscript (this defeats most anti-adblockers) = Up your arse Randall

  122. Re:Only in America by currently_awake · · Score: 2

    Americans think Ronald Reagan was a left wing politician. They frequently redefine words to new-speak nonsense.

  123. I Owe You NOTHING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not owe you a single cent for your ads. You do not have the right to force me to see them. You want to talk about what people are owed?

    -Malware-free ads

    -Responsibility of advertisers if they allow advertising that harms a user's computer or by extension their personal data

    -Ads which do not eat up inane amounts of data to be served

    -Ads which do not act as a View-Wall for your content

    -Ads which are not loud and intrusive into a user's browsing experience

    You won't do any of those things, because all you care about is money. So I won't do anything to allow any of your wasteful and possibly dangerous crap on my system. And unless you can buy enough politicians to change that, nothing will be different.

    So in closing: Fuck You, and have a nice day. :)

  124. Re:The sad thing is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to follow "Starts with a Bang"

    Why?

  125. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  126. Re:Only in America by jbssm · · Score: 1

    It baffles me that in this day and age people still keep mixing Communism with Socialism.

  127. Re:Only in America by retchdog · · Score: 1

    yes, that is the conclusion most of them came to after a few years. they must have been brainwashed by the fluoridated water.

    --
    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  128. Re:Only in America by retchdog · · Score: 1

    Also, it's just hilariously appropriate that this thread is now full of Americans railing on about the horrors of [Cc]ommunism.

    --
    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  129. Re:The sad thing is by currently_awake · · Score: 1

    Advertisers need to make their adds useful to the people. Allow people to specify what they want to know about, and have the add company search out deals and stuff that matches. It would be like Google, but automated, working to find products and services you want to buy instead of finding yet another cat picture.

  130. Re: Only in America by IBME · · Score: 0

    Rothenberg. Rich and self reightous as he is a jew went on a rant not unlike Netnyahoo.

  131. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  132. Re:The sad thing is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am quite happy to subscribe to sites, as long as all adverts vanish as soon as I log in with my subscriber account.
    But the fact is, they want my subscription dollars, and STILL want to shove the same annoying, virii infected adverts down my throat.

    Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em right in the ear.

  133. Ublock = inferior & inefficient vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ublock do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets/stop C&C's
    3.) Protect vs. dyndns botnets/stop C&C's
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets/stop C&C's
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get by dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded favs
    14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) Ez data control
    16.) Block ads better than addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on UBlock doing 'em as well or @ all + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts do MORE w/ less vs. UBlock + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver):

    Ublock's inefficient:

    Hosts @ 3mb-11mb w/ current data vs. threats + ads - test yourself.

    UBlock uses 63++ MB -> http://www.ghacks.net/2014/06/...

    Proof-> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it via native browser methods!

    ---

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slow mode of operation (usermode = more messagepassing overhead vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    * UBlock Origin NOW USES HOSTS - imitation = sincerest form of flattery - it's NO resolver & can't do DNS stuff in my list above hosts can!

    ---

    The best = APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  134. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  135. Freedom of the Press by davesays · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why doesn't his association just put up a webpage of all their content and wait for the page hits to come in? Surely, people cannot wait to see it. $$Profit?

  136. Why run almostalladsblocked? Hosts = superior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  137. Yes, & for the best adblocker (+ far more)? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  138. Forbes must use clarityray: It can't stop hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & for the best custom hosts file? APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It fixes DNS' many security issues & it stops tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject!

    Firewalls do rest (on far less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is a mighty military commander who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  139. Hosts stop ads & threats on ANYTHING webbound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  140. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  141. Freedom of the press? by Chas · · Score: 1

    Since where are a bunch of schlocky "hit the monkey" ad-mongers "the press"?

    It's my computer. I have a right to use it as I see fit. I have a right to control what comes across my screen.

    They do not have the right to infect my machine with malware just to make a buck.

    Again, online advertising is a nasty whore with every STD known to man (and probably a few we haven't discovered yet).
    Adblockers are condoms.

    WRAP THAT RASCAL!

    --


    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  142. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  143. Full rights by sgrover · · Score: 1

    Your rights to publish revenue generating advertisements stops the moment that ad attempts to appear on my screen. The screen belongs to me. The hardware that runs it belongs to me. The bandwidth to retrieve your ad belongs to me (by virtue of the fact I am paying for it). What I choose to have appear on my screen is MY choice - not yours. If I choose to replace all advertisements of one-eyed midget Unicorns, that is up to me. If I choose to utilize a tool to prevent the ads from using my bandwidth in the first place, that is up to me. If I choose to blacklist all the IPs that your ads appear on, that is also up to me. You have every right to publish your ad. You do NOT have the right to force me to look at it.

  144. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this does all you ask for less-> APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do rest (on far less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain names).

    ---

    It gets data vs. threats & adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached fav. sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via what you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  145. Re:Only in America by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Well, it was what USSR and China refereed to it, as did our politicians. Of course, from a true academician POV, it was never Communist, but totalitarian. As one that was part of the Cold war, I find it interesting to see how we continue to bring it up as Communism, and do not change our tune.

    --
    I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
  146. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  147. Damn straight & best adblocker + more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  148. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  149. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  150. AdBlock = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  151. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  152. Ghostery = 'souled-out' & inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C server talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C server talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C server talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) Ez data control
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on Ghostery doing all or @ all + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    ---

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats addons like Ghostery via native browser methods.

    ---

    Better than ghostery by FAR = APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    GUARANTEED safe & clean per 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    So is its installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ... apk

  153. Re:The sad thing is by dshk · · Score: 1

    Advertisers need to make their adds useful to the people. Allow people to specify what they want to know about,

    This is exactly what all ad companies try to do. And this is also exactly why many people hate them: this goes against privacy. In order to serve ads which are interesting to you they have to know what is interesting to you...

  154. Censorship is when the source is blocked, not ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Censorship is when the source is blocked, not when the destination voluntarily decides not to listen.

  155. See adblock shill AmicusNYCL eat his words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The community says, in a fairly loud voice, that we do not want to see your advertisements. People with mod points use them to deal with your malicious behavior - by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:01PM (#51368907)

    Real /. users, not almostalladsblocked+ shill sockpuppets, say different LOUDER:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right. I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context" - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    "I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)

    "APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    "No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

    APK

    P.S.=> Which of these are you, or representing:

    1.) Advertiser
    2.) Webmaster
    3.) Inferior competitor
    4.) Malware maker/Botnet herder

    (Real users like my program. It gives more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - enumerated list above doesn't)

    ... apk

  156. See adblock+ SHILL AmicusNYCL eat his words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The community says, in a fairly loud voice, that we do not want to see your advertisements. People with mod points use them to deal with your malicious behavior - by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:01PM (#51368907)

    Real /. users, not almostalladsblocked+ shill sockpuppets, say otherwise LOUDER:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right. I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context" - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    "I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)

    "APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    "No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

    APK

    P.S.=> Which of these are you, or representing:

    1.) Advertiser
    2.) Webmaster
    3.) Inferior competitor
    4.) Malware maker/Botnet herder

    (Real users like my program. It gives more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - enumerated list above doesn't)

    ... apk

  157. See adblock SHILL AmicusNYCL eat his words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The community says, in a fairly loud voice, that we do not want to see your advertisements. People with mod points use them to deal with your malicious behavior - by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:01PM (#51368907)

    Real /. users, not almostalladsblocked shill sockpuppets, say different LOUDER:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right. I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context" - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    "I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)

    "APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    "No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

    APK

    P.S.=> Which of these are you, or representing:

    1.) Advertiser
    2.) Webmaster
    3.) Inferior competitor
    4.) Malware maker/Botnet herder

    (Real users like my program. It gives them more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - enumerated list above doesn't)

    ... apk

  158. Practice what you preach adblock shill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what Article 19 says: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:38PM (#51375371)

    Practice what you preach adblock shill: Why sockpuppet downmod apk's post showing you eat your words then http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? We know it's you doing it as your post history shows you accuse apk of using sock puppet when everyone knows he posts anonymous always and in accusing him of it you clearly projected you do use sockpuppets! All so you can downmod any opponent you have that you can't validly prove wrong by using your sockpuppets to farm karma in order to do so to hide them when they make you eat your words like apk did bigmouth. Shouldn't have shot your mouth off. Apk rammed them back down your throat. You're not fooling anybody and you must favor the color transparent. We can see right through you.

  159. Practice what you preach mr. projectionist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what Article 19 says: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:38PM (#51375371)

    Practice what you preach adblock shill: Why sockpuppet downmod apk's post showing you eat your words then http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? We know it's you doing it as your post history shows you accuse apk of using sock puppet when everyone knows he posts anonymous always and in accusing him of it you clearly projected you do use sockpuppets! All so you can downmod any opponent you have that you can't validly prove wrong by using your sockpuppets to farm karma in order to do so to hide them when they make you eat your words like apk did bigmouth. Shouldn't have shot your mouth off. Apk rammed them back down your throat. You're not fooling anybody and you must favor the color transparent. We can see right through you.

    1. Re:Practice what you preach mr. projectionist by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that I follow you APK, are you saying that your proof or evidence of me having multiple accounts is because I denied having multiple accounts? Or you're saying I have multiple accounts because it's obvious that you keep posting and referring to yourself in the third person? I don't quite follow your logic. This is what this feels like to me:

      APK: What did you have for lunch today?
      Me: I got a sandwich and some fruit salad, but I didn't finish all of the fruit salad because I didn't really like the cantaloupe all that much.
      APK: Ah ha! So you are a cantaloupe farmer! You have an entire greenhouse full of cantaloupe! You can't deny it! The reason that I, I mean we, the reason that all of us know this to be true is because you said you didn't like it! And what color is that cantaloupe greenhouse that you clearly own and operate?! It's transparent! Check, and mate! Victory is mine!

      Your logic and reasoning skills are far too impressive for me to combat, APK, so I guess I'll just ignore your trolling posts altogether and continue to report your spam.

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    2. Re:Practice what you preach mr. projectionist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His logic and reasoning skills are poor? Beg to differ. You troll apk off topic all the time and your post history shows it.

  160. Practice what you preach adblock shill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what Article 19 says: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:38PM (#51375371)

    Why sockpuppet downmod apk's post showing you eat your words then http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? We know it's you doing it as your post history shows you accuse apk of using sock puppet when everyone knows he posts anonymous always and in accusing him of it you clearly projected you do use sockpuppets! All so you can downmod any opponent you have that you can't validly prove wrong by using your sockpuppets to farm karma in order to do so to hide them when they make you eat your words like apk did bigmouth. Shouldn't have shot your mouth off. Apk rammed them back down your throat. You're not fooling anybody and you must favor the color transparent. We can see right through you.

  161. Re:Censorship is when the source is blocked, not . by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Censorship is when the source is blocked, not when the destination voluntarily decides not to listen

    There are a tier of adverts in adblock plus that don't get blocked as long as they paid to recieve this special evaluation to be in the exemption list. The quote "operating a business model predicated on censorship of content" doesn't seem inaccurate to me?

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  162. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  163. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  164. Forbes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One fine day I went to visit Forbes.com and they said 'Hey, we give you lots of great articles, so do us a favor and disable Adblocker on our site.'

    So I said 'Hey Steve, you're right. You do do me a solid. So let me do you one.'

    But the ads were so obnoxious, distracting and in your face I eventually thought 'Fuck this!' and disabled them.

  165. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  166. Adblock Plus doesn't work for me. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    So, I just tried to use Adblock Plus, which people say it can block in-line advertising just fine and reliably. But, it keeps failing, it won't block the in-line advertising of APK (and APK is bypassing his own adblockng technology to advertise too).

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
    1. Re:Adblock Plus doesn't work for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ash-Fox neither is you trolling off topic plus and inability to validly technically disprove apk's solid backed by reputable verifiable facts either.

  167. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

    Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts

    Doesn't work, I still see this ad.

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  168. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Reply to: Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts

    Doesn't work. I just verified it didn't block this advert.

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  169. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more? Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  170. Re:Only in America by mjwx · · Score: 2

    Of course, nobody in the soviet bloc or even china has ever experienced communism. They experienced totalitarianism

    Communism + Reality = Totalitarianism

    Extremist philosophy + power == totalitarianism.

    It doesn't matter if it is a socialist or capitalist philosophy, both when taken to the extreme and given a modicum of power will result in a totalitarian regime.

    --
    Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  171. RTFA, There is a reason it's linked by asjk · · Score: 1

    As with possible many of you I hated the quote above. I read the article looking for a good Twitter length summary and found there is more to it then what one might believe. Not to belabor things here is a quote toward the end. "Ad-blocking has been a consumer plebiscite; as former Mozilla executive Darren Herman noted at the IAB Ad Operations Summit a few months back, the software offered consumers a vote â" and they have voted no on chaos, opacity, and slowness". Sounds pretty insightful. I didn't agree with many thing therein but give it a read.

  172. Re:Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Totalitarian regimes are actually orthogonal to the communist/capitalist spectrum. However, the USSR never claimed to be communist, they claimed to be socialists moving towards a communist government. Similarly, Hitler's Nazi party also claimed to be socialist and was primarily a totalitarian dictatorship. If they had continued then it might have resembled the USSR to no small degree. However, in both cases it is accurate to say that they never experienced communism.

    Which is not to say that communism is a workable political system; it doesn't work all that well on the band-of-hippies scale, but let's not confuse terms more than we have to, kay? You'll look like a raving American moron.

  173. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  174. Re: Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove it.

  175. Re: Only in America by retchdog · · Score: 2

    My hovercraft is full of eels!

    --
    "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
  176. Re: Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you took a poll of everybody in the world, you would also find that 1+1 = potato.

  177. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't look like an ad to me. It looks like useful information on how blatantly inferior almostalladsblocked sold out to advertisers and doesn't work as well as hosts do by doing not nearly as much but using more resources.

  178. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 0

    Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @02:18AM (#51378941)

    APK Hosts File Engine isn't blocking this advert either!

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  179. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  180. Agreed & Best ads + malware blocker = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  181. Re: Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anarchy + power != totalitarianism

    Only Socialism and Communism are interested in the domination and subjugation of the human spirit. They only work when you are forced at gunpoint to be a slave to their twisted and insane ideals.

  182. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Doesn't look like an ad to me.

    You just can't tell the ads apart from normal content anymore. The ads, they're evolving...

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  183. Hosts = best ads + malware blocker there is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  184. Hosts won race to the top doing more w/ less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  185. Yes sir & I did something about it (hosts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  186. Hosts = ads, trackers, & malware blocked++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  187. Agreed: 4 more speed, security, & reliability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  188. For speed, security & reliability hosts rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  189. Custom hosts = best ad & malware blocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  190. Am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if I'm the only one who just spent a couple hours signing Randy up for russian brides and porn subscriptions?

    http://www.iab.com/our-story/#board-of-directors
    randall@iab.com

  191. if i had but known by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if i had known there was a conference for internet "advertisers" (spammers and malware hosts) coming up i would have had enough time to prepare the chains, locks,and cans of gas to seal up the building and burn the fucker to the ground with all theses assholes inside.

    i would have gotten a medal for saving the internet if i had been able to do that.

  192. The way of the future in antivirus = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Custom hosts get you more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online using what you already natively have:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit:

    http://www.start64.com/index.p...

    * It's superior to antivirus tech (which even Symantec/Norton ADMITS isn't effective anymore vs. modern threat vectors) as it's NOT AS REACTIVE & far more PROACTIVE since antivirus waits till you're "sick" for detection largely, but hosts?

    HOSTS BLOCK SOURCES OF MALWARE & BOTNETS BEFORE YOU CAN TOUCH THEM!

    (... & you can't be hurt by what can't get to you in the 1st place!)

    * :)

    Hosts also knock the chocolate outta browser addons by FAR in terms of their abilities - even with UBlock Origin lately using hosts data (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but it falls short - it's not a resolver, hosts is, & so it blocks DNS redirect poisoning of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are NOT patched against, & makes your connection faster + more reliable resolving locally from RAM vs. them, not just blocking ads for speed & hosts work 1st (1st resolver used + far more - read the link, be enlightened!)

    Enjoy - it's free, it works, & best thing there is on MANY fronts doing more w/ less (good engineering) using what you already have natively!

    Hosts != clarityray detectable & blockable like browser addons - it's not a browser addon w/ their weaknesses in less abilities & yet using more operating in a SLOWER mode of operations (usermode) vs. hosts (kernelmode).

    APK

    P.S.=> Mark my words folks - something OLD's the "way of the future" & that something = custom hosts & on the very grounds I note above + their superiority to inferior, redundant, bloated wasteful slower usermode browser addons (vs. hosts in far more cpu serviced kernelmode as part of the IP stack itself, less moving parts than a firewall using layered filtering drivers & MORE EFFECTIVE since hosts combat what malware uses - host/domain names MOST, not IP addresses)... apk

    1. Re: The way of the future in antivirus = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK -

      You are an asshole.

      That is all.

      Have a nice day.

    2. Re: The way of the future in antivirus = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assholes don't create good programs that do good things and give them away free too so APK isn't an asshole. You are.

    3. Re: The way of the future in antivirus = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assholes stink up the place and dump excrement. Based on what I have seen in threads like these, APK is a humongous, flaccid, galumphing, full-of-shit asshole (larger than Uranus by far!).

      I have repetitive motion injuries from scrolling past the steaming piles of fecal matter APK proudly shoots out of the spastic colon that grew where the rest of us have brain tissue.

      Please keep dropping logs like these. Better that everyone know what a dung pile of a human you are before getting involved with your anal-stage ego idiocy.

      Hopefully some day the natural order of the world will cleanse itself of your presence. A colonic large enough to dislodge a corny turd of your immensity would likely flood all of North America.

  193. 'Subverting' Freedom of the Press by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Freedom of the Press gives you the freedom to print your news/ideas (and ads) without government censorship.

    What it does not give you permission to do, is to punish those who choose to "cut ads out of their newspaper", "fast forward ads on recorded TV" or "reduce attack vectors on their connected devices".

    Adblockers would not be a problem if the Ad Industry hadn't spent 20 years ignoring the security and privacy problems inherent with the systems they utilize to match ads to eyeballs. They brought this upon themselves.

  194. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  195. Even antiadblocking champion technologist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: ...Lauren Weinstein said most folks won't change adblock crippled defaults http://lauren.vortex.com/archi... and that advertisers KNOW it!

    Advertisers = The Synagogue of SATAN - witness Mr. Rothenburger here as prime example thereof!

    * Realize something man - MOST of the little deceitful dolts around here ARE either advertisers & their cronies with TONS of SOCKPUPPETS, or THE WEBMASTERS PROFITING BY THEM in collusion!

    (Same deal on the latter in webmasters losing money now vs. hosts & yes, with tons of sockpuppets to try what advertisers call "jump on the bandwagon" jedi mind tricks that ONLY WORK ON THE WEAK MINDED trying to fool them into thinking 'THE BIG CROWD i WANT TO BE PART OF & IN CROWD DOES THAT' - NOT the informed technically saavy)

    (LOL, it makes me LAUGH HUGELY when I see them doing *ANYTHING* to downmod my posts on adblock/ublock/ghostery & even DNS inferiority to hosts - & all I use is 100% verifiable, concrete, & UNDENIABLE truths from reputable sources with facts in order to do so... all they have? Freedom of speech suppression & censorship despite their "freedom of speech" mantra bullshit they spout - they're the worst abusers of it there is!)

    APK

    P.S.=> They're so STUPID & don't even realize they're actually helping me (especially by DOWNMODDING THE LAST TIME I POSTED THESE CONCRETE VERIFIABLE & UNDENIABLE FACTS CITES http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... which most see, since most here browse well below the easily fake account/sockpuppet cheated so-called "moderation system" (freedom of speech & censorship system is more like it, lol)

    Biggest help to me of ALL championing hosts files?

    Well- To date? I've yet to have *ANY* of these dolts downmodding me prove me validly & technically wrong... it's great! apk

  196. For the best adblocker & far more for less? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  197. Best adblocker & FAR more for FAR less? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  198. Configure w/ what you have doing more w/ less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  199. For the best adblocking & antivirus software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  200. Block 'em all & infectors too for less cpu/ram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    It not ONLY fixes DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do the rest (on less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All that via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  201. Run BEST adblocker/antivir (does more 4 less) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  202. Vs. Addons & AntiVirus? Hosts always win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  203. Hosts = the "Superior Warrior" vs. the conmen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  204. Mere TALK, Barb: THIS is action (best kind) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    1. Re:Mere TALK, Barb: THIS is action (best kind) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the real APK. Too neat, too legible. Nice try, though.

  205. REAL point is, ABP = Inferior + SOLD out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  206. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  207. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  208. Agreed 110%: Hosts=most efficient capable way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  209. Re:Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, nobody in the soviet bloc or even china has ever experienced communism. They experienced totalitarianism

    Communism + Reality = Totalitarianism

    Oh, so all those hippy communes were in actual fact totalitarian mini-states?

  210. Hosts = The way of the future in antivirus... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject - Custom hosts get you more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online using what you already natively have:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit:

    http://www.start64.com/index.p...

    * It's superior to antivirus tech (which even Symantec/Norton ADMITS isn't effective anymore vs. modern threat vectors) as it's NOT AS REACTIVE & far more PROACTIVE since antivirus waits till you're "sick" for detection largely, but hosts?

    HOSTS BLOCK SOURCES OF MALWARE & BOTNETS BEFORE YOU CAN TOUCH THEM!

    (... & you can't be hurt by what can't get to you in the 1st place!)

    * :)

    Hosts also knock the chocolate outta browser addons by FAR in terms of their abilities - even with UBlock Origin lately using hosts data (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but it falls short - it's not a resolver, hosts is, & so it blocks DNS redirect poisoning of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are NOT patched against, & makes your connection faster + more reliable resolving locally from RAM vs. them, not just blocking ads for speed & hosts work 1st (1st resolver used + far more - read the link, be enlightened!)

    Enjoy - it's free, it works, & best thing there is on MANY fronts doing more w/ less (good engineering) using what you already have natively!

    Hosts != clarityray detectable & blockable like browser addons - it's not a browser addon w/ their weaknesses in less abilities & yet using more operating in a SLOWER mode of operations (usermode) vs. hosts (kernelmode).

    APK

    P.S.=> Mark my words folks - something OLD's the "way of the future" & that something = custom hosts & on the very grounds I note above + their superiority to inferior, redundant, bloated wasteful slower usermode browser addons (vs. hosts in far more cpu serviced kernelmode as part of the IP stack itself, less moving parts than a firewall using layered filtering drivers & MORE EFFECTIVE since hosts combat what malware uses - host/domain names MOST, not IP addresses)... apk

  211. APK Hosts File Engine = ads/malware blocked++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  212. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  213. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  214. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ash-Fox neither is you trolling off topic plus and your inability to validly technically disprove apk's solid backed by reputable verifiable facts either.

  215. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  216. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  217. Yes Edge does: Hosts (part of the IP stack) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    FREE, not 'souled-out' to advertisers + adds speed, security & reliability. Does FAR more w/ FAR less more efficiently vs. redundant browser addons & local DNS servers @ home.

    Hosts fix DNS' many security issues, it stops a LOT of tracking @ webpage + DNS levels via 1 file you NATIVELY have per my subject above!

    Firewalls do rest (on far less used IP address trackers vs. host-domain name type).

    ---

    It obtains data vs. threats & for adblocking from 10 reputable security community sites - easily edited by you via my program.

    ---

    SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks + local RAM cached favorite sites @ TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed vs. remote DNS (aids reliability)) vs. other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOWING YOU!

    ---

    All via something you natively have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR'" that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overheads!

    ---

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    Its installer too -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    * "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend".

    APK

    P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    (Accept NO substitutes!)

    ...apk

  218. Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  219. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  220. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  221. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  222. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  223. See adblock SHILL AmicusNYCL eat his words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The community says, in a fairly loud voice, that we do not want to see your advertisements. People with mod points use them to deal with your malicious behavior - by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Monday January 25, 2016 @04:01PM (#51368907)

    Real /. users, not almostalladsblocked shill sockpuppets, say different LOUDER:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "APK is kinda right. I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context" - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    "I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)

    "APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    "No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

    APK

    P.S.=> Which of these are you, or representing:

    1.) Advertiser
    2.) Webmaster
    3.) Inferior competitor
    4.) Malware maker/Botnet herder

    (Real /. users like my program: It gives more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - enumerated list above doesn't)

    ... apk

  224. Practice what you preach adblock shill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what Article 19 says: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @01:38PM (#51375371)

    Why sockpuppet downmod apk's post showing you eat your words and this post repeatedly too then http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ? We know it's you doing it as your post history shows you accuse apk of using sock puppet when everyone knows he posts anonymous always and in accusing him of it you clearly projected you do use sockpuppets! All so you can downmod any opponent you have that you can't validly prove wrong by using your sockpuppets to farm karma in order to do so to hide them when they make you eat your words like apk did bigmouth. Shouldn't have shot your mouth off. Apk rammed them back down your throat. You're not fooling anybody and you must favor the color transparent. We can see right through you.

  225. Re:Only in America by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Totalitarian regimes are actually orthogonal to the communist/capitalist spectrum.

    Except that there are plenty of examples of non-totalitarian capitalist countries, and zero examples of non-totalitarian communist countries.

  226. Custom hosts files already do the job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  227. Re: Only in America by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    The difference is similar to the difference between jalapeno and habanero.

    --
    If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  228. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    It looks like an ordinary spam mail to me. Lot of links, blatant unnecessary highlighting of useless stuff to make it seem important. Rates high on my spam tagging.

    --
    If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  229. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    APK is just another spammer, not worth considering. It smells as fake as fake boobs.

    --
    If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
  230. Re: Only in America by silentcoder · · Score: 2

    Ever heard of Pinochet ? Extremes only work when enforced by a totalitarian government. Hell some totalitarians have enforced entirely opposite extremes at different times. Franco of Spain was a good example. In the 1930s he enforced fascism (a la Mussolini - a form of corporatism), after fascism fell in world war 2 he retained power by enforcing socialism instead. In the 1970s under pressure from Nixon he abandoned that and enforced capitalism instead until his death when his chosen successor (the last crown prince) shocked him by ending the dictatorship and instituting democracy. A brutal dictator. Three entirely distinct economic systems.

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  231. Re: Only in America by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    Andalusia. Unless an anarchist country somehow meets your definition of "totalitarian". Dont confuse your ignorance of something for its absence.
    Hell parts of the USA was once anarchist socialist states: most notably quaker pennsylvania.
    If you go by the common (but wrong) definition of socialism Americans know then all of Western Europe, Canada, Japan, Brazil, Australia and New Zeeland are all examples (from a very long list) of socialist countries that are absolutely not totalitarian.

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  232. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're an off topic troll! So what's worse here. Apk offering a superior product for free that does more than any other does from a single file for considerably less resources used and less complexity or bloating inferior ones championed by Slashdot morons like yourself that can't prove apk wrong?

  233. Ad blockers are effective now, but soon wont' be by rhyous · · Score: 1

    Add blockers are great now. However, they aren't long for this world. I'd share my opinion here but I've already blogged about this:
    Shameless plug for my blog: http://www.rhyous.com/2016/01/...

  234. Creators of AdBlock Plus are "rich" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK. What's HIS net worth? Is he broke?

    1. Re:Creators of AdBlock Plus are "rich" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No but it appears apk is breaking him and all other advertisers and inferior competitors that are easily clarityray blocked showing hosts do far more for far less http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8667099&cid=51380045

  235. Re:Only in America by HiThere · · Score: 1

    Pretty much, since scaling laws are quite important, but pure communism scales better than pure anarchy. I believe that the Oneida lasted as a pure communism until there were more than 200 people (or was that families?) involved. Then it segued into a socialism. It's still going, but I don't know what it's current social structure is.

    But if your community is small enough, a charismatic leader and a strong belief system can make pretty much anything work. Most things can be made to work with a group size below 20.

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  236. Re: Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No it isn't. Humans a flawed which is why it doesn't work.

  237. they brought this on themself by tagput · · Score: 1

    It wasn't until news media sites starting loading 100's of ads all simultaneously that i had to get an ad blocker. They should have at least waited until the ads are in the scrollable pane of the page to load them. If they had done this, the ads would've loaded faster, the ui would have been smoother, and i would never have needed a blocker.

  238. Can a DDoS be considered free speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, we're just sending packets to an IP address.

  239. Re:The sad thing is by HiThere · · Score: 1

    OK, let me be more explicit.

    Certain sources of new/content may only be available on one web site, or one small class of web sites. You can't always find a version that doesn't require JavaScript or worse.

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  240. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Ash-Fox neither is you trolling off topic plus and your inability to validly technically disprove apk's solid backed by reputable verifiable facts either.

    But I just did, it didn't block the advertisment!

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  241. Oh, it was me (thanks for the compliment) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Of course, my writing & format/style's always been thus & facts extolling the virtues + superiority of hosts vs. all other methods is undeniable as well, no questions asked...

    * ROUNDERS Barb... especially its termination.

    (It's another great flick along w/ Ethan Hawke's "PREDESTINATION" I suggested you see...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Onwards & UPWARDS!

    ... apk

  242. Quote Sgt. Don Collier from the film FURY... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you advertising Ash-Fox? That you're a "ne'er-do-well" do-nothing trolling dolt & nothing more?? Yes... lol!

    * :)

    (I've accepted the fact that YOU WISH YOU WERE ME, long ago...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - SEE SUBJECT & I'll tell you something Ash-Fox by letting another speak for me

    (... & I'll attempt to say it in German ala Brad Pitt in the film "FURY" when he mows down TONS of fools like you attempting to attack him (as trolls like you do, failing each time resorting to trolling bs that are obviously either advertisers, webmasters profiting by their soon to be ended model that HBO long ago foretold, INFERIOR COMPETITORS (nobody here can validly technically prove me wrong on that account here for years now), or malware makers)):

    "Halt Maul - absenden schwinen si strach!" Brad Pitt as Sgt. Don Collier in the film FURY

    Translate that for yourself & "drink it in + digest it", ok?

    See - I need even MORE like you to keep continually FAILING vs. "yours truly" making me look GOOD here, lol... you do such a wonderful job of it!

    Why?

    Well, ok - Since It fits this perfectly from my std. posts on hosts:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THE WORD = hosts!

    ... apk

  243. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To me it looks like a list of useful info and facts you trolls in yourself and Ash-Fox can't technically get the better of actually.

  244. You're a double-talking hypocrite imbecile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't practice what you preach. You speak freedom of speech citing article19 and tell apk not to post on hosts? Quit playing dumb or are you really that stupid AmicusNYCL? Must be.

    1. Re:You're a double-talking hypocrite imbecile by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Alex, you schizo, if you want to make a post about host files, go right ahead. If you want to make the same post 35 times in the same comment thread, then go fuck yourself, because then you're a spammer. And, no, just because someone mods your post down does not give you some sort of right to post it again. The reason people mod your spam down is specifically because it is spam and they don't want to see it here. That's specifically why the moderation system exists, to get rid of spam and highlight the good comments.

      You want to talk about Article 19 and free speech? Because you sound exactly like the advertising dickhead who tried to use that argument also. He thinks that Article 19 says that he is free to transmit any information, in the form of his unwanted advertisements, and people should look at them. You do literally the EXACT SAME THING. You think you have some right to post your spam advertising your software, and when someone mods it down you post it again, because you think that people should look at them. You are using the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT as the advertising dickhead that you're trying to block. But you don't understand that, because in your world you think you're in some grand competition of proving whether or not the hosts file is a valid method of blocking advertisements. And, for many purposes, it is a valid method, except obviously host-based blocking falls over when the content you want to block comes from the same host as the content you want to see. I have rules to block certain things from slashdot.org, for example, but that doesn't mean I want to block all of it. Hosts won't help with that situation, but for many other situations it works fine. But that's all you hear, you think this is some giant dick-waving competition about hosts files and it is not. Yes, using hosts files solves some problems (specifically, blocking content based on origin instead of the actual content). There are other problems it does not address. So fucking what? Stop shitting all over Slashdot in your stupid attempt to prove yourself right in a competition in which only you are engaged.

      And, for the record, the advertising dickhead's interpretation of Article 19, the same interpretation that you use to think you have some right to have everyone read your spam, is wrong. That is neither the letter nor the spirit of what is written in Article 19.

      I have no more respect for you than I have for any other spammer. I know the first rule when dealing with spammers, also: they lie. Spammers lie, it's what they do. You lie also, because you're a spammer. I know this.

      Sorry, that probably confused you. Here, maybe if I refer to myself in the third person like you do then you'll understand why I don't like you:

      amicusNYCL has no more respect for you than amicusNYCL has for any other spammer. amicusNYCL knows the first rule when dealing with spammers, also: they lie. Spammers lie, it's what they do. You lie also, because you're a spammer. amicusNYCL knows this.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
  245. Re:Only in America by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    In a similar way to how Capitalism + Reality = Totalitarianism, although perhaps with a bit more delay, but with the advantage of, it seems, more public support??

    I can only assume then that the Capitalist Totalitarians are a bit starter (playing for the longer game) than the Communist ones..

    And I am not sure that is a good thing.

  246. Re: Only in America by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    I can only imagine that you have an interesting meaning for 'Socialist' as well as an interesting meaning for 'Not Totalitarian', from your list of countries.

    Oh, and not to mention, I am less than certain that 'Western Europe' has yet to form a single country, and try as I may 'New Zeeland' isnt on any of my
    maps, but good try, I guess.

    I suspect quite a few of the people in those countries (Australia especially springs to mind) would disagree with your views..

  247. Re: Only in America by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    >I can only imagine that you have an interesting meaning for 'Socialist'

    I always use the meaning in the dictionary - an economic system predicated on the principle that the workers own the means of production. Nothing to do with the state at all. Taxi-cabs are socialist. Worker-owned coops of all kinds are socialist. If anything, I always thought that using "state" as a substitute for "the workers" was a very bad idea - it doesn't actually achieve the goal, you still end up with bosses owning the means of production but now the very organ that is supposed to regulate industry and curb it's excesses ends up *being* industry - which leads to even worse abuses than under capitalism - there's nobody to enforce the checks and balances. But for this reason in that post I qualified my usage to "the meaning Americans know" which is roughly equivalent to "market regulation and lots of civil services". The kind of system Sanders subscribes to - which *is* in fact the same system you will find in all the places I mentioned. And only a complete moron would think I listed "western Europe" as a country as opposed to what I did list it as: a large collection of countries which has this thing in common.

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  248. Fredo would approve by von+Stalhein · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our freedom hating Mafia overlords.

  249. Your freedom of speech stops at my ears by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    I do not have to listen, much as I am not legally or morally obligated to accept spamvertising or malware on MY computer system.

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    Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
  250. Name calling now? LMAO - you fail & thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what Article 19 says: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Tuesday January 26, 2016

    Your quote above also says it's ok for me to post & you don't own /. either!

    YOU FAIL - it's what you do self-defeating @ EVERY TURN vs. me (thanks: you make ME look GOOD).

    Mr. Burn of Malwarebytes hpHosts isn't helping you, neither is /. mgt., + YOUR WORDS QUOTED above OR YOUR 10++:1 RATIO FAIL HERE DOING THE SAME "EATING YOUR WORDS" vs. ME http://slashdot.org/comments.p..., lol!

    It's OBVIOUS you represent these parties or are one:

    1.) Advertiser
    2.) Webmaster
    3.) Inferior competitor
    4.) Malware maker

    (Real /. users, not your sockpuppets who downmod me & I exhaust of downmodpoints easily, LIKE my program giving them more speed, security, reliability & anonymity - enumerated list above doesn't)

    APK

    P.S.=> Your favorite color = "transparent" - I see RIGHT thru you easily! Everyone does.

    Fact - Nobody sane or not those adversely affected would bitch about hosts giving them more speed, security, reliability, or anonymity FOR LESS but DOING MORE (good engineering using what you already natively have vs. bolting on inefficient, redundant, useless "mOaR" illogically that's crippled too).

    Since you work for those whose business IS THE PROVINCE OF LIES &/or half-truths in advertisers quite obviously by now?

    You'll LIE but YOU ARE LOSING to adblocking!

    "Adblocking will win the technical fight" - by cfalcon (779563)quote>

    I've won the battle in adblockers - ABP+/Adblock's AUTHORS RAN vs. MY CHALLENGES TO THEM DIRECTLY BY EMAIL TWICE & deleting my posts on their forums too & Ublock even uses hosts (not as fully as hosts though):

    "Some technology innovation comes along and smashes a business model the incumbents cry" - by Random Nobody (3857591)

    1. Re:Name calling now? LMAO - you fail & thanks! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Your quote above also says it's ok for me to post & you don't own /. either!

      I never said it's not OK for you to post. Here, let me say the exact same thing I already said: if you want to make a post about host files, go right ahead. If you want to make the same post 35 times in the same comment thread, then go fuck yourself, because then you're a spammer.

      It's OBVIOUS you represent these parties or are one:

      Statements like these are why I know you're full of it. That's a false statement, but you think it's "obvious". You're full of it.

      Fact - Nobody sane or not those adversely affected would bitch about hosts giving them more speed, security, reliability, or anonymity

      I'm not bitching about hosts. Go ahead, find a single instance where I did. If you look at the post that you're replying to, in fact, you'll even see me say where it's useful. I'm not bitching about hosts, APK, I'm bitching about spammers. I'm bitching about you.

      You'll LIE but YOU ARE LOSING to adblocking!

      I'm "losing" to adblocking? Read my post history, genius, I'm a proponent of adblocking, I use it proudly to avoid advertisements and spam, such as yourself. I use multiple extensions to block various kinds of advertising and tracking (yes, including same-domain advertising). I educate my less-technical friends and family about the fact that they don't need to see all of those ads. I block ads on my mobile devices and my desktops. But look at you, you're proving my point by continuing to think that you're in some sort of competition with me about adblocking, hosts files, whatever. That's not why I fight you APK, I fight you because you're a spammer with a proven track record of spamming. You are the advertising scum that I block.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    2. Re:Name calling now? LMAO - you fail & thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've lost badly Amicusnycl. Apk posts and you said it's ok to do. He used your own contradictions and failures against him on you hypocrite. Apk's right that nobody is helping you despite your attempted blackmail type tactics. Not slashdot, not malwarebytes mr. burn, not yourself http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and worse here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and if you think the very people who you tried to use against apk believe you then why are they not helping you and shutting apk out banning him from slashdot or malwarebytes hphosts sites then? You have failed and I also believe you are either an advertiser, malware or botnet herder, or webmaster making monies from ads. You have failed. Everyone he quotes from fellow slashdot users knows his program is good and that advertising is dead. Only the advertisers like you don't know it and webmasters profiting by it don't dare admit it. Antivirus people have. Norton admitted their junk is slow and no longer works. I've seen apk tear apart any opponent on technical merits of hosts many times and now all your kind has is calling him spammer? Others say they like his programs and posts here. Real registered others, not you with sock puppets down modding apk all the time. You're only fooling yourself if you feel we don't see you are a schmuck adman and the way you favor almostalladsblocked shows the rest. You're either a paid shill for adblock, an advertiser or webmaster profiting with admen. Either way you are losing to apk on every front possible. Mostly the technical above all other reasons. Accept it. You lose. Your thin veneer of cool is fading with your name calling now. Your own words and misdeeds did you in. You really are what apk said. Easy to see through.

    3. Re:Name calling now? LMAO - you fail & thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read your post history. It's trolling apk idiot. No fuck yourself amicusnycl taking your own ill advice. Nobody here cares what you want you hypocrite. Nobody in slashdot in users, owners, or malwarebytes hphosts. Get it through that thick head of yours. Apk quoted them all in it and your lack of results do the rest trying to essentially blackmail apk through hphosts malwarebytes personnel who don't care about your off topic trolling and spamming apk which your entire post history shows you do. You can't prove him wrong so you try use spammer on him. Too bad others are shown saying they like his 'spam' and his program and nobody is helping you. We can see through you like glass.

    4. Re:Name calling now? LMAO - you fail & thanks! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      You have failed and I also believe you are either an advertiser, malware or botnet herder, or webmaster making monies from ads.

      You can't even get your story straight, APK. A few days ago you're calling me an Adblock shill, today I make money from advertising. You're pathetic.

      I've seen apk

      Unbelievably pathetic. "If I type everything in one long paragraph, no one will know it's me! I'm so clever!"

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    5. Re:Name calling now? LMAO - you fail & thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amicusnycl you shill adblock constantly! Fools or those with an agenda for crippled inferior adblock would do that against hosts clear superiority on every front there is almost. Adblock's paid off by advertisers crippled and vastly inferior to hosts. That is a fact nobody can deny. Do you? You hassle apk who shows adblock sux against hosts which would only make sense if you were the author of that shitware adblock or are you employed as a paid shill for adblock amicusnycl? Seems like it. Prediction: You're not going to be paid for it. You're not doing a good job. You are fighting an irresistable force of superior methodology in abilities and efficiencies in hosts. Truth and facts are like that. Apk uses them and your own hypocrite words against you and your attempts at tattling blackmailing to slashdot owners and malwarebytes backfired on you. You can't stop apk on technical issues. You cant stop apk from posting. Get over it. You have failed miserably. So has advertising and so has adblock, ublock, ghostery and just about everything else against apk and hosts files.

  251. Get YOUR stories straight adblock shill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone's free to read this to see it all along with YOU EATING YOUR WORDS http://slashdot.org/comments.p... and http://slashdot.org/comments.p... you proved a hypocrite by YOUR OWN WORDS, lmao!

    Lastly - I'd like to thank this gent for telling you were to get off on my subject's note http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    Fact: Many people here like my work & said it above (and elsewhere, ask Mr. Burn how he had to move to AMAZON servers after I released my ware & pr'd it here OR how many different people use it everyday - he can search by useragent & ip addresses for it in his logs easily & has for me before - TONS do).

    Many DO like my program, and you said nobody wants to see anything about it.. eat your words chump.

    Get a brain - you have the intellect of a carrot. You can't outthink/outsmart me, but YOU CERTAINLY DO OUTSMART YOURSELF, hypocrite!

    Above all else what's pathetic is seeing LIMITED IMBECILES that can't create better tools than I do in fools like yourself attempting to first technically attack me & failing on every level imaginable INCLUDING ADBLOCK'S AUTHORS who ran from me, lol... & then attempting to call me spammer, blackmail or threaten me with slashdot or malwarebytes hpHosts & FAILING... lol, nobody is helping you.

    FACT!

    APK

    P.S.=> Adblock shill, and you CLEARLY are? After all my replies above and you say it's OK FOR ME TO POST on hosts?? I will continue to be true to myself and do so!

    Especially after you trapped yourself and PLAYED yourself in the links above!

    Again - you are ridiculously easy to outthink, outsmart, and just plain OUT - thanks for being so stupid, seriously... Cardinal Richelieu'd your ass easily here as always!

    I must lastly thank you - why? You make me look GOOD, every single time (twas your past that disarmed you mondego, and others even saw it in your post history along with championing the INFERIOR redundant wasteful crippled adblock vs. the SUPERIOR WARRIOR in hosts & myself)... apk

    1. Re:Get YOUR stories straight adblock shill by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Lastly - I'd like to thank this gent

      Aaaand now you're thanking yourself. I think we've gone full circle. It looks like I'm back to being an Adblock shill instead of an advertiser, and now you're also thanking yourself for posting.

      ask Mr. Burn ... how many different people use it everyday

      If I had to guess, based on what I know about you, I would say that you probably use 7 proxies to download your own software thousands of times every day. That would fit your behavioral pattern.

      after I released my ware & pr'd it here

      Is that what you call spamming? "PR"ing? Is that the term that spammers use?

      attempting to first technically attack me

      I haven't technically attacked you. This is still part of the APK Imagination Game.

      Adblock shill, and you CLEARLY are?

      Earlier today you said I was "OBVIOUSLY" making money from advertising. CLEARLY you are a very confused person.

      I will continue to be true to myself and do so!

      I have no doubt, APK. Spammers gotta spam.

      You make me look GOOD

      My friend, there are not enough psychiatrists and drugs on the planet to make you look good. You look like a child, that's what you look like. A narcissistic, sociopathic, egotistical child whose best friend doesn't actually exist.

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      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
  252. Change your name to "the Projectionist", lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First - YOU WISH YOU HAD SOMETHING TO "SPAM" & you don't own /., quit acting like you do, + others LIKE my 'spam' as you call it (that you wish you had something to 'spam' but you're just a "ne'er-do-well" do nothing, lol).

    Second - I don't use proxies, they're too damn slow anyhow & I'm into speed & performance (or doesn't hosts give you that too?) BUT YOU PROJECT YOU ACTUALLY USE PROXIES (for downmodding my posts, right? RIGHT!) - go on, ask Mr. Burn & see what he says as to the results of how many folks use my ware the past year or so from his logs.

    Third - "EVERYONE IS ME", right? Every SINGLE ac poster on /. has to be me (according to you AmicusNYCL). That's about the best you can come up with since REAL others in /. registere users are QUOTED liking MY work (the likes of which YOU will never be able to manage).

    Fourth - IF you're not attacking me, then why are you bothering me @ all? You don't have a leg to stand on. Again, you don't own /., nobody gives a damn what you want either, so just go away... do something with your time vs. bugging me - or aren't you capable of it? Obviously not.

    Fifth - THE WAY YOU SHILL FOR ADBLOCK & TRY CUT ME DOWN MAKES IT FAIRLY OBVIOUS YOU'RE SOME PAID OFF SHILL FOR THEM or ARE ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

    APK

    P.S.=> You ought to change your name here (fake name using loser, lol) to "The Projectionist" - you're giving away YOU NEED "MENTAL DRUGS" by tossing THAT stale b.s. my way...apk

    1. Re:Change your name to "the Projectionist", lol by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      YOU WISH YOU HAD SOMETHING TO "SPAM"

      Never in my life have I wished that I could be a spammer like yourself.

      BUT YOU PROJECT YOU ACTUALLY USE PROXIES (for downmodding my posts, right? RIGHT!)

      What's the point of using a proxy for downmodding? You can't see IP address information anyway. Why would I access Slashdot through a proxy? Is this more of your "outsmarting" me? You're brilliant!

      ask Mr. Burn & see what he says as to the results of how many folks use my ware the past year or so from his logs.

      Will he be able to tell me how many of those IPs are actually you running through a proxy to inflate the numbers? I bet you also post reviews referring to yourself in the third person. There's no way that Slashdot is the only place where you try to pass yourself off as someone other than you, I don't believe that for a second.

      Every SINGLE ac poster on /. has to be me (according to you AmicusNYCL).

      No, just the ones who use all of the exact same grammar structure, insults, name-calling, etc. Although, that actually does turn out to be every AC who responds to me backing you up. Weird how that works, huh? Why hasn't a single registered user posted in reply to me to back you up? Why are all of them ACs using the exact same kind of language and insults that you use? If there are so many people here who like your software, then why are you the only person replying to me in your own defense? I know the answer to that question, APK. What's the first rule when dealing with spammers? Spammers lie.

      REAL others in /. registere users are QUOTED liking MY work

      And not a single one of them has ever replied to me to back you up. It's always an AC using the exact same kind of language that you use. And you think it's so clever, too. That's your idea of what being clever and smart is.

      IF you're not attacking me, then why are you bothering me @ all?

      I'm trying to get you to stop spamming. Stay on topic, I'm not technically attacking you, which is what I said and what you accused me of. I'm not attacking your software from a technical point of view, I'm opposing you for the spammer that you are. If you stopped spamming Slashdot, and posted your advertisement only once in any comment thread, then I wouldn't attack you. I just can't stand spammers, I think they're pathetic parasites.

      THE WAY YOU SHILL FOR ADBLOCK & TRY CUT ME DOWN MAKES IT FAIRLY OBVIOUS YOU'RE SOME PAID OFF SHILL FOR THEM or ARE ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

      Sweet, APK, another "obvious" statement from you that is completely wrong. I'll add that to the list of reasons why you have no idea what you're talking about. I've never asked for nor received any compensation from the anti-advertising industry, and I've never done work on their behalf. I do this for fun, APK, just because I believe in it. I just want to see a world where people aren't forced to look at unwanted ads, like the ones that you post 30+ times per comment thread.

      I like the fact that if I use your initials too many times in one post, it triggers the "lameness filter". Indeed, Slashdot, indeed....

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
  253. Ads killing the experience by movdqa · · Score: 1

    I like to read the news on my iPad Mini and I don't use an Ad Blocker. The iPad Mini isn't the most powerful computer around and it gets pretty slow with one or two news pages in the background with all of the crap on web pages these days. If something takes too long to load, then I dump it to read it on a PC later on. If a page is cluttered with ads, I use reader mode. If there's an ad following me around because I shopped for something - then I don't buy the item. Dump the analytics, noisy ads, etc. Google's text ads are fine and they're often relevant. Video is unnecessary - I'm not really a video-person. If things are really bad, I cut and paste the text into an Emacs session and create a Kindle document to read later. Reading on the PC is easier because of AdBlock Plus or similar, and the PC has the resources to block all of the bad stuff or load the bad stuff and still perform. We shouldn't need high-end PCs, phones or tablets to read web pages though. More Ad crap is not better Ad crap. I think that ads could be done a lot better with some kind of global opt-in but I don't see it happening.

  254. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What doesn't work is crippled default settings in almostalladsblocked and ghostery being bought out by advertisers to not do their job correctly and to deceive users who mostly won't change those default bs settings and advertisers know it. You live in fear of apk and so do your employers in advertisers and inferior competitiors and you know your time is short.

  255. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You project you work for his inferior sold out to advertisers competitors or you're defending your bad choices in them. Either way you project fear of apk and you know your time's short as advertisers are projecting in this article's premise. You know you can't win against hosts that do a lot more for a lot less and aren't sold out to not work properly like most easily blocked by clarityray browser addons like adblock or ghostery and even ublock that uses hosts proving apk's point but it doesn't take care of more speed in hardcodes and avoiding dns yet resolving addresses faster than remote dns can and hosts avoid dns security issues like redirect poisonings or going down which it does quite a lot. Hosts lighten those dns server loads so they have less chance of going down so admins of dns would like that too and you know it or you do now. Antivirus and antispyware are also inferior. They only are effective once you're infected. That's dumb. Hosts deflect away that possibility since you can't be infected by what you can't touch and unlike antivirus resident, hosts speed you up 2 ways in hosts hardcodes for speed and reliability with protection and of course, adblocking, blocking ALL ads, not just some due to bribery of browser addons that are easily blocked by clarityray.

  256. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You project you work for his inferior sold out to advertisers competitors or you're defending your bad choices in them. Either way you project fear of apk and you know your time's short as advertisers are projecting in this article's premise. You know you can't win against hosts that do a lot more for a lot less and aren't sold out to not work properly like most easily blocked by clarityray browser addons like adblock or ghostery and even ublock that uses hosts proving apk's point but it doesn't take care of more speed in hardcodes and avoiding dns yet resolving addresses faster than remote dns can and hosts avoid dns security issues like redirect poisonings or going down which it does quite a lot. Hosts lighten those dns server loads so they have less chance of going down so admins of dns would like that too and you know it or you do now. Antivirus and antispyware are also inferior. They only are effective once you're infected. That's dumb. Hosts deflect away that possibility since you can't be infected by what you can't touch and unlike antivirus resident, hosts speed you up 2 ways in hosts hardcodes for speed and reliability with protection and of course, adblocking, blocking ALL ads, not just some due to bribery of browser addons that are easily blocked by clarityray!

  257. Learn to READ dolt: You wish you could code! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Especially an app as versatile as APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit: http://www.start64.com/index.p... since I don't see *ANYTHING* out there online or otherwise by "AmicusNYCL" the wannabe "Big Talker", lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> You can bullshit around about MalwareBytes' hpHosts but the fact is, & you can verify this w/ Mr. Burn there the admin who verified my code as safe - ever since I put up my program for download with him, HE HAD TO SETUP AMAZON MIRRORS DUE TO THE DEMAND FOR IT & HIS HOSTS DATA!

    (& he's ONE HELL of a malware analyzer + bad site finder, w/ only 1 'peer' I know of in Henry Hertz Hobbit/Mr. Alexander whom I also work alongside who also hosts & recommends my program too like Mr. Burn)

    Mirrors of his site where you complained (& yes, I know it's you) I 'spam'... bullshit!

    You "oddly" (not) neglected to note I ONLY POST ON TOPIC, & IF OTHERS USE INFERIOR BROWSER ADDON SOLUTIONS which I show them the superiority of hosts doing more for less gaining them MORE speed, security, reliability, & anonymity (& not being clarityray detectable + blockable like all addons are mind you) FOR MASSIVELY LESS resources consumed on all levels!

    Face facts:

    I don't see "the trolling b.s.'ing likes of YOU" adblock shill, doing better yourself!

    Man - LOL, I even saw BOTH AdBlock's author & AB+'s author RUN FROM MY POINTS ON HOSTS by email 2x from 2 diff. accounts I sent them challenge in (after the said "hosts = shit" well, they wouldn't back it vs. me & RAN, lol)!

    Even deleting my points in favor of hosts over the sold-out redundant inferior crippled resource hogging inefficient addons they make!

    Right on THEIR FORUMS, like the bullshitting LOSERS they are (tell them that, I'd LOVE to rip them in 1/2 right here publicly in fact since I know DAMN WELL I can easily... they already proved that via their evasion antics) - since they KNOW I'm right as rain & you do too, Mr. ADBLOCK SHILL... apk

    1. Re:Learn to READ dolt: You wish you could code! by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      I don't think Slashdot is happy with you, this time I only had 1 instance of your initials and it flagged the text as being lame. Removed those 5 characters (including a comma and space) and the text is fine.

      You're all the way back to trying to assert that I can't program again now, huh? Haha, you were doing that months ago. You don't like where this argument is headed so you're trying to fall back to the old standby, huh?

      Mirrors of his site where you complained (& yes, I know it's you)

      Wow, how did you know it was me? Was it when I told you that it was me? Truly, your intellect knows no bounds.

      I 'spam'

      Yes, I know you do. That's what I'm trying to stop.

      You "oddly" (not) neglected to note I ONLY POST ON TOPIC, & IF OTHERS USE INFERIOR BROWSER ADDON SOLUTIONS which I show them the superiority of hosts doing more for less gaining them MORE speed, security, reliability, & anonymity (& not being clarityray detectable + blockable like all addons are mind you) FOR MASSIVELY LESS resources consumed on all levels!

      It's still spam when you get downmodded only to come back and post the exact same thing over and over again. You've admitted all of this before when you were gloating about defeating the moderation system. We've already established that 1) you spam Slashdot and 2) you will continue to spam Slashdot. These facts aren't in question at this point. You're ignoring everything we're talking about now and trying to go back to "but, but..." with whatever old arguments have already been settled. That doesn't sound like a strategy to win an argument. I'm glad that you understand where you stand in this.

      I don't see "the trolling b.s.'ing likes of YOU" adblock shill, doing better yourself!

      Again, we already settled this months ago after many, many times of me telling you that I have no desire to identify myself to you. That hasn't changed, no matter how much you want to derail this and try to go back to old arguments.

      Man - LOL, I even saw BOTH AdBlock's author & AB+'s author RUN FROM MY POINTS ON HOSTS by email 2x from 2 diff. accounts I sent them challenge in (after the said "hosts = shit" well, they wouldn't back it vs. me & RAN, lol)!

      Who cares? Truly? How is this on topic to anything we're talking about? 1) You spam Slashdot. 2) You claim you will continue to spam Slashdot. 3) You constantly post as other people trying to support your own position (and then thanking yourself for posting). You don't want to talk about any of that, you just want to spout random statements or try to bring up old arguments. I get it, you don't have anything else to say. If that's the case, then just stop talking. You don't have to keep talking, you don't have to keep replying when you have nothing else to say. Seriously. Just stop. No, you don't have to reply to this either. You're done here, you've said everything you can think to say and now you're just repeating yourself. Go away. No one else is watching this, this thread is several days old and is about to be automatically closed anyway. Just stop responding. Find a hobby. Maybe try to meet a woman. Go for a walk. Go play one of your games and entertain yourself if you don't have anyone to hang out with, just stop trying to re-hash the same tired shit over and over again like you're making valid points about anything that we're discussing. You're not, you're not impressing anyone. I know you spam, I know you lie, you know I'm right. It's done, it's over.

      Like every other weekend, I'm out of here until I'm back in the office next week. You have yourself a great weekend there buddy, have fun posting comments as other people.

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
  258. Don't like my posts? Don't read 'em &... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: /. readers like my ware -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & you ok me posting per your citing Article 19 on FREEDOM OF SPEECH & EXPRESSION so don't mess w/ mine - it's verifiable undeniable concrete FACTS from reputable sources too!

    So read above -1 moderation on your part, problem solved! YOU HAVE THAT OPTION! See subject above.

    It's that simple, anyone knows it - I post AC, we are @ 0, so read at +1 or above!

    SLASHDOT THEMSELVES DIDN'T HELP YOU WHEN YOU TRIED "BLACKMAILING ME" RATTING TO THEM, DID THEY? NOPE! NEITHER DID MalwareBytes' HpHosts site admin... lol!

    HOWEVER: You won't DO that will you adblock shill?

    Nope.

    You have to attack me on 'spamming' but YOU FAIL TO MENTION I AM ALWAYS ON THE TOPIC AT HAND (99% of time unless attacked first) & THAT I REPLY TO USERS OF INFERIOR SLOWER BLOATED RESOURCE ABUSING REDUNDANT SOLD OUT NOT FULLY WORKING Addons!

    I show a better more efficient versatile way in hosts that does FAR more w/ FAR LESS resources used in CPU + RAM!

    Additionally - You can't on TOUCH me on tech grounds or I'd annihilate you as I can adblock's own authors.

    Lastly - OUT OF THE OFFICE MY ASS (which is where you post from in the day, & other registered 'LUSER' name by night or weekends - doesn't fool anyone, I've seen it before w/ you weasels): YOU ARE DONE FOR YOUR ADBLOCK PAID SHILL DAY is more like it - you have failed again!

    WHY is it that my 'detractors' ALL ONLY POST 9/10 times on M-F? That's the answer just above...

    APK

    P.S.=> You like adblock (hell, no doubt in my MIND you're a paid shill for them since you always vouch for their inefficient, redundant, sold out crippled crapware that's slower than hosts & does less + uses more illogically)?

    Hosts are BETTER all the way around in nearly every conceivable way on almost any level imaginable doing more with less with something you natively already have vs. ILLOGICALLY "Bolting on 'MoAr'" that's inferior all the way around doing less (yet using more, lol)... apk

  259. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    You live in fear of apk and so do your employers in advertisers and inferior competitiors and you know your time is short.

    Great holy armies shall be gathered and trained to fight all whom embrace evil. In the name of the Gods, ships shall be built to carry out our warriors out amongst the stars and we will spread advertising to all the unbelievers. The power of advertising will be felt far and wide and the wicked shall be vanquished.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  260. Re:Quote Sgt. Don Collier from the film FURY... ap by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    What are you advertising Ash-Fox?

    I have no product I am advertising. I am however pointing out that yours does not block the one an annoying advert you've got all over this page, APK.

    See - I need even MORE like you to keep continually FAILING vs. "yours truly" making me look GOOD here, lol... you do such a wonderful job of it!

    So, do you have schizophrenia?

    The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power

    I can tell you as someone that did serve in the military that barely anyone would know the ridiculous trivia you're quoting.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  261. Re:Quote Sgt. Don Collier from the film FURY... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're advertising you're an off topic troll do nothing by comparison to apk nothing more projecting you need meds and moronic poverty stricken losers hungry for easy money serve as bulletbags in the military.

  262. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's because it's no advertisement. It's an on topic statement of facts (unlike your posts, troll) on hosts files and a program for them that shuts down ads and malware of most all kinds. The program and hosts files are intelligent enough to recognize that. You're not.

  263. Re:Damn straight! Best adblocker & more = host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, do you have schizophrenia? by Ash-Fox (726320) on Friday January 29, 2016 @07:23PM (#51400117)

    Look who's talking. Ask yourself that Ash-Fox They are your off topic troll words after all and they apply to you here after your post I just replied to.

  264. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    It is an advertisement.

            advertisement
            noun: advertisement; plural noun: advertisements
                    a notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  265. Re:Quote Sgt. Don Collier from the film FURY... ap by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Nah, I know the definition of advertisement.

            advertisement
            noun: advertisement; plural noun: advertisements
                    a notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  266. Ash-Fox = definition of off-topic troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & folks here like my program (do they like yours? Hell no - YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, lol!):

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)

    "APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    APK

    P.S.=> It must truly SUCK to go thru life an off-topic jealous little TROLL on your part, Ash-Fox the "ne'er-do-well" hiding behind his delusional little "fake name" registered 'luser' /. handle vs. creating good things folks like as I do, lol... apk

    1. Re:Ash-Fox = definition of off-topic troll by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      Endorsements

      None of which mentioned the capability to block the adverts I am referencing to.

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  267. It's a statement of facts on topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You're off topic & a jealous troll - why? Many here like that program of mine:

    "his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

    "his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

    "I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

    "No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

    "APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

    "Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

    "In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable." - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:27PM (#50999097)

    "APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

    APK

    P.S.=> Do they like yours, Ash-Fox? Hell no - lmao, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS TO CREATE ONE + have a fairly 'tough crowd' @ /. LIKING it as I do... no, lol, you're a jealous little off-topic do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" troll & you KNOW it... apk

    1. Re:It's a statement of facts on topic by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      More endorsements

      None of which reference the adverts I am speaking of.

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      Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  268. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  269. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  270. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Yeah, still not working on these advertisements.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  271. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Yeah, still not working on these advertisements, either.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  272. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apk's program does far more does than almostalladsblocked or other inefficient inferior sold out to advertisers addons for less giving users more speed, security, reliability, and anonymity online. You've made a better one than apk's? Let's see it Ash-Fox!

  273. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apk's post != advertisement. It's on topic facts you can't prove wrong. Apk's program does more does thainefficient inferior sold out to advertisers to not work right addons for less giving users more speed, security, reliability, and anonymity online. You've made a better one than apk's? Let's see it Ash-Fox! Of course we know that a no talent do nothing trolling jealous loser like you has zero. It's the sum of your life.

  274. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Apk's post != advertisement.

    Actually...

    advertisement
    noun
            a notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy.
    informal
            a person or thing regarded as a means of recommending something.

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  275. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you on topic? No. Can you validly prove apk's points that are on topic wrong? No. Are you trolling? Yes. You're the definition of off topic troll. He's can post what he wants above all else and you can't stop him.

  276. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Can you validly prove apk's points that are on topic wrong?

    I just pointed one out, repeatedly.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  277. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No you haven't. Apk's on topic. Your not and trolling too. You can't prove his list of points wrong on hosts You've too much time on your hands. Idle hands are devil's workshop.

  278. Re:AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. host by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool story, APK.

  279. AdBlock+ = inferior & 'souled-out' vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do 4 speed, security & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. bad sites (past ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C talk
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C talk
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C talk
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (4 reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoning
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phish
    10.) Protect vs. caps
    11.) Get past dns blocks
    12.) Keep off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing (adblock & hardcoded favs)
    14.) Works on anything webbound multiplatform.
    15.) EZ data control
    16.) Block ads better vs. addons more efficiently

    * ANSWER ="NO" on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = on devices natively.

    APK

    P.S.=> Ab+ does less vs. hosts less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN operation (as 1st resolver).

    ---

    Ab+'s a 128-151mb memory hog http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts use 3-11mb w/ my program initially). Even FireFox 41 adblock eats 65++mb http://www.ghacks.net/2015/06/...

    ---

    ClarityRay defeats it seeing addons via native browser methods!

    ---

    Ab+'s bribed not to work by default http://www.businessinsider.com... & ABP bought out adblock http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...

    ---

    Ab+ adds complexity in slower usermode (w/ more messagepassing overhead + context switch vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    ---

    AdBlock's SLOWER: http://superuser.com/questions...

    ---

    What's best?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee who verified its source is safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe per 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    a 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    & Installer -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

  280. Re: Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope. Marx saw Socialism as the most likely outcome after the (to him) inevitable collapse of capitalism, Communism he saw as a progression afterwards. It's not a question of intensity or severity, but an evolutionary change involving a lack of governance in the aftermath of a collapsed system requiring each to do to their best, and a recovery of some form of governance later. There's substantial differences in both if you look at them properly and not try to force them into the same mold.

    I find it interesting how often in survival games how often people fall straight into functional socialism to survive as a group, lending a bit of credence to Marx's theory.

  281. Re: Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it amusing he can't find New Zealand on a map since I've never seen a globe lacking it, and even most of the atlases I've seen have it (excluding those using maps over about 300 years old). The only map I can think of that usually doesn't include it is Risk's (some variant maps do as a pacific attack route on Oceania).

    I wouldn't consider Australia socialist, but hell I'm actually aware of Marx's writings not just the popular opinions of what are Socialist and Communist (Marx saw Russia as a prime candidate for skipping the socialist phase in his political evolution not having come under threat by capitalism at that point). With regards to what America thinks is Socialist/Communist (idiots that can't distinguish differences) I'd agree most of the first world is some flavour of their hated political systems.