I've always been telling them to RTFM and just use scp like everyone else here, but they always cry and moan that they don't know how... One has to wonder which part of RTFM don't those morons understand...
Are you talking about man pages? Maybe The Manual is nothing but obvious trueisms like "-gurfle invokes the gurfle feature" and mindless wave-offs like "-glork is not within the scope of this document. See The Other Fucking Manual for details."
Sometimes users just need a handful of simple straight-forward plain vanilla examples printed out on an instruction sheet. But then sometimes a sysadm couldn't be Fucking Bothered to do something like that. That's why I get to put "good communication and inter-personal skills" on my resume... not that it's done any fucking good so far.
I don't understand. What are you suggesting? What do ducks have to do with it?
Howard the Duck was always running into elaborate conspiracies. Is that what you mean?
Ducks like water. They love a good rain. Is that what you mean by bringing canopies and umbrellas into the conversation?
But then why would they go after Linux? Is this some vendetta against the penguins? But why? Penguins love water. Or is it that the Linux penguins remind them of bad days at a Catholic school? Maybe they hated one of the Batman films.
Unless other parents get vocal and oppose this luddite activity, they'll further the progress of their children towards a future job at Burger King.
Guess again! McDonald's is working to automate the food preparation. They have also outsourced ALL of their IT to India. So now all they have to do is fully roboticize the kitchen, close the counter, and outsource the drive up to India. Wendy's, BK, and KFC should follow quickly.
Anybody remember McSwiney's in A Stainless Steel Rat is Born?
The issue is with secure and contained execution environments. Properly "jailing" software (whether a process in an operating system, or a thread and window box on a preview pane in Outlook) is the real answer. Engineering has long known that compartmentalisation is key to minimising risk and impact. Operating systems are getting better at doing it. Programming languages are gradually working towards it.
The problem with LookOut is not one of sandboxing. The problem is that it started with marketing. Benevelant marketroids sold it as a way for benevelant marketing emailers to keep tabs on their prospects. Send an email with hypertext and you can benignly pass cookies and whatnot. Be polite and no harm will come.
But that's not the way the real world works. Bill (Gates I mean, not Joy) and company are still trying to make benevelant intrusion work the right way despite anyone elses take on reality. And they still think that people like benevelant marketing scrutiny in the first place.
I think your looking at the worng person to go after them it's the insurance companies that should be pushing for this aka you want insurance for your network your premiums go up as you have less and less patches applied more open ports etc.
Mod this guy up! He hit the nail on the head!
This is the way security is supposed to work. You buy system insurance. They inspect your systems before they agree to take the risc. If they find weaknesses you can't sue them and say that they caused huge damages. Just like the guy who pointed out that you can't blame the building inspector for causing the problems that he finds.
I still think Lamo went about it wrong. If you know you are dealing with bastards who prosecute white-hats, don't be so damned surprised! And if you didn't know...
OK, I'LL SPELL IT OUT: Most corporate MIS hacks are litigous bastards who will prosecute white-hats. Save yourself the trouble. They're not worth it. Let the black-hats take 'em down. They WON'T learn this lesson any other way!
We noticed when we started playing that we could move the tank offscreen and back, since he hadn't put any bounds checking to constrain the tank movement.
I recall playing an early version of Flight Simulator on an Apple ][. The best strategy was to fly over the mountains, taxi back through them, roll slowly over the oil well and drop your bomb at zero altitude.
You make some interesting points, but I think the "Dukes of Hazard Jump" option would only be available if the horn plays "Dixie." As it's a British vehicle, I doubt that's an option.
The horn would play "God Save the Queen", but Americans would think it was playing "My Country 'Tis of Thee".
So, yes, I could drive this car to my nearest public slipway (In Woolwich), drive it into the river and bash the waves at 30mph, drive out at Richmond and drive the rest of the way to work.
But can this get you around all those central district congestion-cams without having to pay a fee?
There was an episode on Saturday Night Live where Coca-Cola came in an bribed them and immediately wheeled in new machines. And all the customers who were used to ordering Pepsi were told "No Pepsi. Coke."
Moore's Law was passed as a rider to that law that says that spam can be sent to anyone any time, as long as it contains a reference to HR4176 or whatever it was. So, you see, it really is as law now.
PSaltyDS had a valid point about looking good in print, and just 'cause he made one eensey schmeensey error doesn't mean you have to get all hypercritical and rub it in and... [rant fades off in to the distance]
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Are you talking about man pages? Maybe The Manual is nothing but obvious trueisms like "-gurfle invokes the gurfle feature" and mindless wave-offs like "-glork is not within the scope of this document. See The Other Fucking Manual for details."
Sometimes users just need a handful of simple straight-forward plain vanilla examples printed out on an instruction sheet. But then sometimes a sysadm couldn't be Fucking Bothered to do something like that. That's why I get to put "good communication and inter-personal skills" on my resume... not that it's done any fucking good so far.
I don't understand. What are you suggesting? What do ducks have to do with it?
Howard the Duck was always running into elaborate conspiracies. Is that what you mean?
Ducks like water. They love a good rain. Is that what you mean by bringing canopies and umbrellas into the conversation?
But then why would they go after Linux? Is this some vendetta against the penguins? But why? Penguins love water. Or is it that the Linux penguins remind them of bad days at a Catholic school? Maybe they hated one of the Batman films.
Well, if the put the laser on the plane then it could stay up indefinitely!
Guess again! McDonald's is working to automate the food preparation. They have also outsourced ALL of their IT to India. So now all they have to do is fully roboticize the kitchen, close the counter, and outsource the drive up to India. Wendy's, BK, and KFC should follow quickly.
Anybody remember McSwiney's in A Stainless Steel Rat is Born?
Republicans want to tell people how they should run their lives. Restrictions on abortion. Promotion of religous views. Ass^Hhcroft.
Democrats want to tell companies how to run their business. Stronger EPA. Generally pro-union. More govenment is wiser government.
This is probably a wee bit simplistic. Or way off; that's possible too. But it didn't put you to sleep, did it?
The problem with LookOut is not one of sandboxing. The problem is that it started with marketing. Benevelant marketroids sold it as a way for benevelant marketing emailers to keep tabs on their prospects. Send an email with hypertext and you can benignly pass cookies and whatnot. Be polite and no harm will come.
But that's not the way the real world works. Bill (Gates I mean, not Joy) and company are still trying to make benevelant intrusion work the right way despite anyone elses take on reality. And they still think that people like benevelant marketing scrutiny in the first place.
Engery? Engery?
The president of the United States is posting on /.!
COOL!
Any ideas for Barbie distros of BSD, BeOS, etc.?
With IT being what it is today, would it be the same as Burger Flippin' Barbie?
How about Java-coding Barbie? Web Designer Barbie? uh... uh... Imperial Stormtrooper Barbie, with pink armor and sparkly blaster rifle!
Ok, the root beer's gone to my head again.
(Ok, I've had too much root beer. I'll sit down and shut up.)
Keep information away from Moose and Squirrel.
Vhy voot Rawshians... (excuse me...)
Why would Russians be interested in Moose and Squirrel? Boris and Natash were Pottsylvanian. Not Russian.
It is an old Klingon saying: Only Nixon could go to China.
Turn it up too far, and I use that EMP gun I've been working on. hehehe
That's cement overshoes, Scotty, not "concrete galoshes".
"Evil Hacker in sector 14. Drop some commandos and have them put a bullet in his head!"
That'll teach those punks.
Sounds er... stupid to me. But then, I'm used to that.
Mod this guy up! He hit the nail on the head!
This is the way security is supposed to work. You buy system insurance. They inspect your systems before they agree to take the risc. If they find weaknesses you can't sue them and say that they caused huge damages. Just like the guy who pointed out that you can't blame the building inspector for causing the problems that he finds.
I still think Lamo went about it wrong. If you know you are dealing with bastards who prosecute white-hats, don't be so damned surprised! And if you didn't know...
OK, I'LL SPELL IT OUT: Most corporate MIS hacks are litigous bastards who will prosecute white-hats. Save yourself the trouble. They're not worth it. Let the black-hats take 'em down. They WON'T learn this lesson any other way!
I recall playing an early version of Flight Simulator on an Apple ][. The best strategy was to fly over the mountains, taxi back through them, roll slowly over the oil well and drop your bomb at zero altitude.
The horn would play "God Save the Queen", but Americans would think it was playing "My Country 'Tis of Thee".
But can this get you around all those central district congestion-cams without having to pay a fee?
There was an episode on Saturday Night Live where Coca-Cola came in an bribed them and immediately wheeled in new machines. And all the customers who were used to ordering Pepsi were told "No Pepsi. Coke."
Chizborgha! Chizborgha! Chizborgha!
No, wait. I don't want to think about that in connection with squashing worms. Never mind.
Then we decide which beer we'll all drink, and which car is the right one.
Then we'll settle that White Sox vs. Cubs thing once and for all.
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Moore's Law was passed as a rider to that law that says that spam can be sent to anyone any time, as long as it contains a reference to HR4176 or whatever it was. So, you see, it really is as law now.
Hey buddy, get off his case!
PSaltyDS had a valid point about looking good in print, and just 'cause he made one eensey schmeensey error doesn't mean you have to get all hypercritical and rub it in and... [rant fades off in to the distance]