Except the overclocker bullshit which is made out of spec and may have additional heat sinks and what not and cost more just because some idiots will buy it.
and the cost of getting them to put a DVD writer in place of the DVD rom was more than the cost of simply buying a DVD rom drive.
Check the prices of Apple time capsules vs harddrive prices =P
I just hate it that I can't get the functionality of the Airport Extreme AND Express in one device, it's not like I will buy BOTH! All I want is wireless sound and backup disk...
I could buy one with a regular PC, Linux and airfoil but I'd rather run Solaris or something such in that case, so I don't know..
Anyway I have the cheap Kingstone valueram in my MBP and they work just fine. All I checked was that they was fast enough (667 MHz), tried to get low timings (CL5 I believe) though I have no idea if the MBP makes use of that and that voltage was within specs (and not retarded OCZ or something such.)
Yeah, that was my assumption to since upgrade options always suck balls and are only bought be retards.
But then he made the point was the price was similar as the upgrade he wanted, though that probably was during the following conditions: * Not keeping/selling the old sticks. * Buying expensive premium brand. * Buying special Apple branded RAM modules. * Eventually including shipping aswell.
that were as comparably configured as I could manage
His issue is right there. Basic configurations have to compare fairly well to get peoples intrest, options/upgrades not as much so those make the companies more money and as long as he reconfigures machines to match the specs of a mac the whole concept is flawed.
1GHz processor (32- or 64-bit) 1GB of main memory 16GB of available disk space Support for DX9 graphics with 128MB of memory (for the Aero interface) A DVD-R/W drive
??
if you have less than that you must really suck. I guess RAM is the most likely upgrade candidate and that will cost what? 10$?
Compare that to the price of a new mac pro (vs a quad G5 one.)
That's why we make it easier for copyright holders to get information out of the ISPs starting tomorrow (IPRED, 1st april 2009) so we can get RIAA/MPAA "pay your way out" deals before it ever reaches actual prosecution over here to.
Demanding fees from people who probably deserves it will most likely be easier to get by with than turning everyone into criminals and charging them as such.
On the other side if the latest Windows would be totally incompatible with your 2.5 year old machine people would complain a lot.
Macusers tend to accept that to some extent, or well, atleast in general, not the actual affected users.
(So your GPU suck and you don't have support for Core Image? You don't have an 833+ MHz G4 and can't install Leopard? You can't run EAs games thanks to lame GPU? No Snow Leopard on PPC machines (so what if your superexpensive mac pro can't run it?))
For most people it was the best OS for the most widespread platform, and now I'd say it's even more so...
Lock in? Just if you need your old apps, but when I don't feel much locked in with AmigaOS even though I used that..
Monopoly? There are plenty of OSes around, they may not work as good in general as Windows does, but that don't make monopoly the reason stick with Windows. The reason is it's the best for their purpose.
Inertia? Yes, if it's not broken why fix it? Also what would be the better alternative for most people? You seriously suggest most people would feel more happy with say Ubuntu than Windows? I think some of them have even tried, and thought not...
Sure, DOS sucked, Windows pre 98 sucked, but so did MacOS, and what alternatives was there except OS/2 for most people?
Applications and what you can do with your computer matters much more than having a superior solution. Without applications it's useless.
Incidentally, the fact that Windows is the most widely used OS, suggests that backward compatibility matters.
Which could also be said for the lame attempts to save Amiga.
Workbench 3.0 came 1991 or 1992, Commodore filed for bankruptcy 1994.
And here we are and people still try to release systems with the same old or make a compatible environment instead of something fresh and modern but with the same "feel."
Though, there are so much good software on the Amiga which one would want to run.
I guess the same could be said about Haiku, but I have no idea how much may be new and fresh in it, and BeOS was more modern than AmigaOS to begin with.
Though, even superior yet compatible don't have to win, see OS/2.
While correct for some subscriptions (some are hidden here to) the actual marketing always mention the "pay now" fee without any kind of sign up fee or something such over here, so it doesn't help much.
All phones are marketed as really cheap even though they aren't.
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Well, I'd never seen a whole XXX or XXX 2 movie so I'd pass this one even if it was available in the browser or sent on TV ..
And yeah, I speak about the super hero movies, though I tend to jump straight into the action in the other movies to ...
Man is part of nature so obviously it's all 100% natural.
No, I haven't used Vista at all, I ran OS X hack when it was released and have a MBP now.
Because it's logical? For your purpose yyyy/mm/dd works just fine, and it's the best solution since computers sorts it nicely to.
Links? What did he do on wikipedia? Why did they name the bridge after him?
Except the overclocker bullshit which is made out of spec and may have additional heat sinks and what not and cost more just because some idiots will buy it.
and the cost of getting them to put a DVD writer in place of the DVD rom was more than the cost of simply buying a DVD rom drive.
Check the prices of Apple time capsules vs harddrive prices =P
I just hate it that I can't get the functionality of the Airport Extreme AND Express in one device, it's not like I will buy BOTH!
All I want is wireless sound and backup disk...
I could buy one with a regular PC, Linux and airfoil but I'd rather run Solaris or something such in that case, so I don't know ..
Anyway I have the cheap Kingstone valueram in my MBP and they work just fine. All I checked was that they was fast enough (667 MHz), tried to get low timings (CL5 I believe) though I have no idea if the MBP makes use of that and that voltage was within specs (and not retarded OCZ or something such.)
So change your manufacturer if they are asses.
Yeah, that was my assumption to since upgrade options always suck balls and are only bought be retards.
But then he made the point was the price was similar as the upgrade he wanted, though that probably was during the following conditions:
* Not keeping/selling the old sticks.
* Buying expensive premium brand.
* Buying special Apple branded RAM modules.
* Eventually including shipping aswell.
But I guess in this case you calculate 2 to 4 GB upgrade for as much as 4 GB cost?
Not price difference of 4-2 GB?
But still a valid point since most people don't do anything with the old sticks anyway.
Personally I bought two 2GB 667 MHz Kingston DDR2 SO-DIMM value sticks for my Macbook Pro.
I assume "apple compatible" sticks or the overclocker brands will cost more.
Machine works as good or better than it did with the original sticks so no issues with using the cheap RAM anyway.
that were as comparably configured as I could manage
His issue is right there. Basic configurations have to compare fairly well to get peoples intrest, options/upgrades not as much so those make the companies more money and as long as he reconfigures machines to match the specs of a mac the whole concept is flawed.
According to PC World, the requirements are:
1GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
1GB of main memory
16GB of available disk space
Support for DX9 graphics with 128MB of memory (for the Aero interface)
A DVD-R/W drive
??
if you have less than that you must really suck. I guess RAM is the most likely upgrade candidate and that will cost what? 10$?
Compare that to the price of a new mac pro (vs a quad G5 one.)
Wow, you americans are really afraid of communism? =P
I don't think it spread thru urine ..
That's why we make it easier for copyright holders to get information out of the ISPs starting tomorrow (IPRED, 1st april 2009) so we can get RIAA/MPAA "pay your way out" deals before it ever reaches actual prosecution over here to.
Demanding fees from people who probably deserves it will most likely be easier to get by with than turning everyone into criminals and charging them as such.
There are no immediate plans to expand this service beyond China.
Proof right there that there isn't enough piracy in Sweden!
On the other side if the latest Windows would be totally incompatible with your 2.5 year old machine people would complain a lot.
Macusers tend to accept that to some extent, or well, atleast in general, not the actual affected users.
(So your GPU suck and you don't have support for Core Image? You don't have an 833+ MHz G4 and can't install Leopard? You can't run EAs games thanks to lame GPU? No Snow Leopard on PPC machines (so what if your superexpensive mac pro can't run it?))
For most people it was the best OS for the most widespread platform, and now I'd say it's even more so ...
Lock in? Just if you need your old apps, but when I don't feel much locked in with AmigaOS even though I used that ..
Monopoly? There are plenty of OSes around, they may not work as good in general as Windows does, but that don't make monopoly the reason stick with Windows. The reason is it's the best for their purpose.
Inertia? Yes, if it's not broken why fix it? Also what would be the better alternative for most people? You seriously suggest most people would feel more happy with say Ubuntu than Windows? I think some of them have even tried, and thought not ...
Sure, DOS sucked, Windows pre 98 sucked, but so did MacOS, and what alternatives was there except OS/2 for most people?
Applications and what you can do with your computer matters much more than having a superior solution. Without applications it's useless.
Incidentally, the fact that Windows is the most widely used OS, suggests that backward compatibility matters.
Which could also be said for the lame attempts to save Amiga.
Workbench 3.0 came 1991 or 1992, Commodore filed for bankruptcy 1994.
And here we are and people still try to release systems with the same old or make a compatible environment instead of something fresh and modern but with the same "feel."
Though, there are so much good software on the Amiga which one would want to run.
I guess the same could be said about Haiku, but I have no idea how much may be new and fresh in it, and BeOS was more modern than AmigaOS to begin with.
Though, even superior yet compatible don't have to win, see OS/2.
Nice, thanks, someone messed up bad then.
Tss, Apple suck.
(I've got karma to burn.)
EU/EMU isn't Europe ..
Ask any British person, and they'll tell you it isn't.
No, they are the sub-country of USA ;)
I think the common price over here is 350 sek, so just over 30 euro, better get a phone which you can unlock reasonable easy yourself.
(For instance I think it's quite easy with Sony-Ericsson W595.)
While correct for some subscriptions (some are hidden here to) the actual marketing always mention the "pay now" fee without any kind of sign up fee or something such over here, so it doesn't help much.
All phones are marketed as really cheap even though they aren't.
Simple, build a hack with WD drives and benchmark them against each other for performance.
Or samsung for noise and heat.
(Drive champs may have changed..)
Obviously Apple don't manufacture their own drives so it will all be bullshit but anyway.