... btw, that stuff is what I can recycle/sort here and leave when I leave the building, if I'm willing to go to another location I could leave things like things of wood, electronics and such.
It's lots of trees in Sweden to, even more than in the last decades afaik, but there isn't much OLD forrest left, it's mostly spruce all over.
Even if they chop down rain forrest and say plan palm trees instead they still have "lots of forrest" but uhm, it's not comparable.
Regarding material usage we have compost and recycle of paper boxes, paper magazines, clear and colored glass, metal, hard plastic and batteries here. Nothing for soft plastic since it's just burned anyway so it goes with whatever else is left (in my case mostly cat litter.) I could expect that you may have things like electrical tooth brushes in one plastic box each in yet another plastic box for them all. Or plastic boxes for tomatoes or apples or something, and stupid things like that. Atleast we do have quite a bit of package waste (apples and tomatoes are normally not packaged that way, but some are, for instance organic stuff to make it easier to not mix them up I guess.)
But then I'm pretty sure polution regulations and environmental work in general are more offensive here in Sweden than in the USA, even though I've understood that there are exceptions such as cars in california.
But I don't brag about it and bullshit everyone else for how bad they are, I guess sooner or later people in the US will recycle more, get more gasoline effecient cars, maybe say isolate their houses better or whatever they may not do in the best way.
China is poor, if they could afford to produce things cleaner they'd probably do. But their part of the industrial age are very new, and that's WHY you can compare them.
And currently they probably value a better economy higher than a cleaner environment.
And afaik most people values more items / more comfortable living /... over a cleaner environment as well.
Want to make a change? Then sell your car, never buy a new computer or TV and so on...
Point was rather that people have suffered for bad things which have happened in the US as well, sorry if "niggers" wasn't used for farming cattles but just picking cotton or doing the dishes then.
I don't care for the hide, also I'm vegan so it would be bad even from a non-falun gong practisionary(I don't know what word to use).
Of course it don't make china better, and their government suck for doing what they do against falun gong people. But well, don't complain if you're not much better yourself.
Also some other idiot pointed out that they made less money in china and how they at the same income level (and therefor raising productivity if you want to look at it that way) would polute even more and much more than the US. But if they had more money I'm very confident they would invest more money in keeping things clean. But it's hard to do when you don't have large margins I guess.
Anyway the polution per capita in the western world will lead a hell of a lot over china, even more if you considering THEY ARE POLUTING FOR US, IT'S WE WHO BUY THEIR PRODUCTS.
In the end it's the consumers and how we live which affect things.
The US remains the only major industrialized nation to not do things in that fashion.
Is that because in the US the US IS THE ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED NATION?
Or are you suggesting that industries polute more in europe? I seriously doubt that USA in general would behave better to the environment than Sweden do. Feel free to prove me wrong.
Of course they will get better paid later on, this will be a problem for any developing nation but they have accepted that some people will get rich first, but in the end hopefully they will all benefit from it. Thought in very capitalisic countries not every does I guess, Japan and the USA is the two countries with the biggest gaps between very rich and very poor people if I remember correctly.
I don't know but maybe this is due to the fact that previous pollution have already led to the people and industries of Atlanta to be richer than the people in Beijing and thereby giving them the opportunities to install better filters and what not?
I'm sure the chinese people would prefer a clean town as well and they will probably get it once they get richer.
Though I think it says somewhere that Slashdot is an american/USA webpage and although there are international visitors such as my self that's still true so we just have to accept that here means USA, that us means americans and that your english grammar have to be perfect because if it's not you're considered less intelligent or assumed to have a weaker argument by default.
lol, it's funny how you care now when the rich part of the world have made a much bigger environmental impact on the poor world before without they gaining close to or even less than nothing for it.
Also how much toxic products isn't exported to or produced in poor countries on the richer countries/companies/peoples conditions?
If anything we should give the poor people economical compensation for not taking environmental or ecological destructive advantage of their nature resources.
If you want rain forests to remain you can't complain even though you've cut down all your own trees, or if they over fish an area, kill all large predators or whatever. Where are your bisons?
Give them help to survive in a way which don't affect the environment as much then, give them food or fuel from other parts of the planet.
But in the end we people do accept the planet, and will do even more so if everyone should live in a "modern" world, and then nature as we knew it one or a couple hundred years ago are probably quite fucked.
Thankfully for the other species no species reign forever, so some day someone else will take control of our planet.
Fairly obvious he was more thinking along the lines of:
1) Find empty/forest map on map. 2) Plant your town of 20 years. 3)... for 20 years. 4) Sell homes in your new nature town. 5) Profit!
Of course no one will move the trees, you plant them on location and wait, won't work that great for one small yard spot in the middle of London or NY but would work for a new area somewhere else.
As a foreigner and someone who don't even know who is called what, or what each party wants, but the american people must be very stupid if they vote for an old white dude when they can get a young black one as president. Quite obvious which one seems to have the nicer personality and be less old and stubborn.
(That logic wouldn't matter so much if the party had more to say than the president, but most publicity seem to go for the president anyway in america so..)
Anyway it's more fun to mock a stupid monkeylooking white dude when a young humanistic black guy. Vote for change and not more of the same =P
Valid point I guess, thought there are plenty of stupid fucks which belives all those tales as the truth, just as they are written, which is the bad thing so why spread that bullshit?
If not spreading them makes us lose a story about a guy with a boat and some animals on it who cares? He's long gone and dead, if he ever existed.
Which is why I modded this story fairytale useless bullshit.
Feel free to disagree, but as long as someone spread and belive in this kind of stuff there will be a couple of fanatics fucking things up. And no, I'm not talking about a couple few which bomb themself on a bus, I'm talking millions of people who belives it enough to make those other people actually beliving, consider and doing it.
And then it doesn't matter what kinds of christians it is (because it always seem to be them, I don't see many buddist hating whatever non-beliver?) Whatever christians people are here (protestants?), catolics, jews, islamists, whatever, freaks all of them.
The sooner people say fuck religion and leaves this bullshit the better.
Just consider in how many countries the religion is the law.
I guess religious freedom is one step, atleast it doesn't force one religion on everyone, the next step should probably be to forbid all kinds of religion, atleast as long as it tries to control people. If you choose a non-harmful way of living then fine, good for you, and us.
(And I know this can be read as me speaking against myself since I see to hate religious people so much, I don't, I hate morons of all kinds.)
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Which of course is hard to do in a small time frame.
But since they are probably less likely to want to accept the crap others sell them they will eventually get there.
... btw, that stuff is what I can recycle/sort here and leave when I leave the building, if I'm willing to go to another location I could leave things like things of wood, electronics and such.
It's lots of trees in Sweden to, even more than in the last decades afaik, but there isn't much OLD forrest left, it's mostly spruce all over.
Even if they chop down rain forrest and say plan palm trees instead they still have "lots of forrest" but uhm, it's not comparable.
Regarding material usage we have compost and recycle of paper boxes, paper magazines, clear and colored glass, metal, hard plastic and batteries here. Nothing for soft plastic since it's just burned anyway so it goes with whatever else is left (in my case mostly cat litter.)
I could expect that you may have things like electrical tooth brushes in one plastic box each in yet another plastic box for them all. Or plastic boxes for tomatoes or apples or something, and stupid things like that. Atleast we do have quite a bit of package waste (apples and tomatoes are normally not packaged that way, but some are, for instance organic stuff to make it easier to not mix them up I guess.)
But then I'm pretty sure polution regulations and environmental work in general are more offensive here in Sweden than in the USA, even though I've understood that there are exceptions such as cars in california.
But I don't brag about it and bullshit everyone else for how bad they are, I guess sooner or later people in the US will recycle more, get more gasoline effecient cars, maybe say isolate their houses better or whatever they may not do in the best way.
China is poor, if they could afford to produce things cleaner they'd probably do. But their part of the industrial age are very new, and that's WHY you can compare them.
And currently they probably value a better economy higher than a cleaner environment.
And afaik most people values more items / more comfortable living / ... over a cleaner environment as well.
Want to make a change? Then sell your car, never buy a new computer or TV and so on...
Point was rather that people have suffered for bad things which have happened in the US as well, sorry if "niggers" wasn't used for farming cattles but just picking cotton or doing the dishes then.
I don't care for the hide, also I'm vegan so it would be bad even from a non-falun gong practisionary(I don't know what word to use).
Of course it don't make china better, and their government suck for doing what they do against falun gong people. But well, don't complain if you're not much better yourself.
Are you sure it's smaller?
Also some other idiot pointed out that they made less money in china and how they at the same income level (and therefor raising productivity if you want to look at it that way) would polute even more and much more than the US. But if they had more money I'm very confident they would invest more money in keeping things clean. But it's hard to do when you don't have large margins I guess.
Anyway the polution per capita in the western world will lead a hell of a lot over china, even more if you considering THEY ARE POLUTING FOR US, IT'S WE WHO BUY THEIR PRODUCTS.
In the end it's the consumers and how we live which affect things.
The US remains the only major industrialized nation to not do things in that fashion.
Is that because in the US the US IS THE ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED NATION?
Or are you suggesting that industries polute more in europe? I seriously doubt that USA in general would behave better to the environment than Sweden do. Feel free to prove me wrong.
Of course they will get better paid later on, this will be a problem for any developing nation but they have accepted that some people will get rich first, but in the end hopefully they will all benefit from it. Thought in very capitalisic countries not every does I guess, Japan and the USA is the two countries with the biggest gaps between very rich and very poor people if I remember correctly.
Yeah, because religious bullshit are very likely to give insightful posts?
Who cares what he believe as long as he bases his ideas on religion? Where is -1 utter crap?
I'm quite confident this have been the case of say NY and London back in the days as well. Things will clear up, literary.
How come? Because the sun beams bounce off higher up in the atmosphere and get an easier way out?
One would expect black things to catch up more heat and warm the planet up more.
I don't know but maybe this is due to the fact that previous pollution have already led to the people and industries of Atlanta to be richer than the people in Beijing and thereby giving them the opportunities to install better filters and what not?
I'm sure the chinese people would prefer a clean town as well and they will probably get it once they get richer.
nah, cattle breed up on pure african slave sweat and blood. Way to go!
Maybe forbid all kinds of modern living? Shit on the ground, plant something in it, eat it, drink water from a spring, done.
Though I think it says somewhere that Slashdot is an american/USA webpage and although there are international visitors such as my self that's still true so we just have to accept that here means USA, that us means americans and that your english grammar have to be perfect because if it's not you're considered less intelligent or assumed to have a weaker argument by default.
Yeah because we all know how very willing USA is to sacrifice anything for a cleaner environment / better world.
Stupid chinese people! Trying to catch up, teh horrorz!
lol, it's funny how you care now when the rich part of the world have made a much bigger environmental impact on the poor world before without they gaining close to or even less than nothing for it.
Also how much toxic products isn't exported to or produced in poor countries on the richer countries/companies/peoples conditions?
If anything we should give the poor people economical compensation for not taking environmental or ecological destructive advantage of their nature resources.
If you want rain forests to remain you can't complain even though you've cut down all your own trees, or if they over fish an area, kill all large predators or whatever. Where are your bisons?
Give them help to survive in a way which don't affect the environment as much then, give them food or fuel from other parts of the planet.
But in the end we people do accept the planet, and will do even more so if everyone should live in a "modern" world, and then nature as we knew it one or a couple hundred years ago are probably quite fucked.
Thankfully for the other species no species reign forever, so some day someone else will take control of our planet.
So move the net at that speed - 2 km/h, big deal? ;D
Ah, so THAT's why there are multiple fleshlights and not just the-best-one(TM.)
I don't see the purpose in lots of ports either, just buy the best system or the one which can play the games you need. Why port to everything?
And yes, Windows would probably be sufficient, though I'm on a mac without Windows but that's my choice.
Fairly obvious he was more thinking along the lines of:
1) Find empty/forest map on map. ... for 20 years.
2) Plant your town of 20 years.
3)
4) Sell homes in your new nature town.
5) Profit!
Of course no one will move the trees, you plant them on location and wait, won't work that great for one small yard spot in the middle of London or NY but would work for a new area somewhere else.
As a foreigner and someone who don't even know who is called what, or what each party wants, but the american people must be very stupid if they vote for an old white dude when they can get a young black one as president. Quite obvious which one seems to have the nicer personality and be less old and stubborn.
(That logic wouldn't matter so much if the party had more to say than the president, but most publicity seem to go for the president anyway in america so ..)
Anyway it's more fun to mock a stupid monkeylooking white dude when a young humanistic black guy. Vote for change and not more of the same =P
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Valid point I guess, thought there are plenty of stupid fucks which belives all those tales as the truth, just as they are written, which is the bad thing so why spread that bullshit?
If not spreading them makes us lose a story about a guy with a boat and some animals on it who cares? He's long gone and dead, if he ever existed.
Which is why I modded this story fairytale useless bullshit.
Feel free to disagree, but as long as someone spread and belive in this kind of stuff there will be a couple of fanatics fucking things up. And no, I'm not talking about a couple few which bomb themself on a bus, I'm talking millions of people who belives it enough to make those other people actually beliving, consider and doing it.
And then it doesn't matter what kinds of christians it is (because it always seem to be them, I don't see many buddist hating whatever non-beliver?)
Whatever christians people are here (protestants?), catolics, jews, islamists, whatever, freaks all of them.
The sooner people say fuck religion and leaves this bullshit the better.
Just consider in how many countries the religion is the law.
I guess religious freedom is one step, atleast it doesn't force one religion on everyone, the next step should probably be to forbid all kinds of religion, atleast as long as it tries to control people. If you choose a non-harmful way of living then fine, good for you, and us.
(And I know this can be read as me speaking against myself since I see to hate religious people so much, I don't, I hate morons of all kinds.)
For a couple few lucky choosen ones in that case. Most people can not get that.
(Feel free to prove me wrong ..)