The browser is the portal to the world's information. It is also one of Microsoft's most entrenched products and MS has made companies go bankrupt just to force IE on users. If we can beat MS at the browser war, then all of the sudden web sites will have to start being standards compliant, all of the sudden Linux users can bank online, all of the sudden the world has realized that Open Source is a viable alternative and has quality. If firefox can get on the majority of desktops then people will be more receptive to Open Source, they will know its out there, something many people don't know right now. The user base of OSS and OSS operating systems will go up. It will give companies incentives to write cross platform applications and drivers. Maybe in a year or two you'll see OpenOffice.Org starting to cut into MS's office space too. All of the sudden people will have very few reasons not to switch to linux, they can no longer say that they won't be able to view certain websites because the web will be standardized and they won't be able to say that they can't exchange documents because by OpenOffice.org 2.0 I would suspect that it'll be far greater competition to MS (not that it isn't already). Yes, wikipedia is important, but not everybody needs an encyclopedia all the time. This is a good effort and will help everyone in OSS over the long run. Regards, Steve
You lucky fool... font's are your biggest problem with SuSE? Heh I couldn't keep it on my laptop, just too many problems. I personally think that my laptop is pretty standard hardware, knoppix can install on it fine and Fedora runs wonderfully, SuSE just isn't an option for me right now. Regards, Steve
Um... Fedora Core 2 has had the 2.6 kernel and 2.6 Gnome for many months. Fedora Core 3 being released on November 8th will have kernel 2.6.9 (which will be great for my laptop) , Gnome 2.8 and KDE 3.3, as well as many other really cool features like SELinux. Yoper has had the 2.6 kernel and KDE 3.3. Many other distros have these things also. SUSE is a bit behind times. Regards, Steve
Wow... did you ever here the cliche of a face so ugly it breaks mirrors... that site is so horrendous it breaks apache. Anyway...your huge community doesn't seem to be all that huge... google uses a modified version of apache, slashdot uses apache, sourceforge.net uses apache, and Amazon.com runs apache... as well as many others. If your having hours of downtime a day you must not be all there in your head. Seriously, go download Fedora Core 2, install it, everything will be set up for you... port your code to php or jsp or whatever if your finding it unstable. Coldfusion is hell and way overrated. If your going to use opensource, go completely open source because thats what it was designed with in mind. But judging from your website, you've got a lot more work to do then just getting a server running properly. Ugh... go buy a book or two, one for servers and one for web design. I'm not trying to troll... I just can't believe what this guy said, never in all my years have I had any trouble with Apache, whereas I also admin an IIS server and its *hell*...but it pays the bills:) Regards, Steve
Saying windows comes with an ftp client is like comparing notepad to vim or emacs. Its just two different levels of play. You can't compare them. When I install linux, I have a full system from an Office Suite to a development environment to a graphics environment. If an average user never wanted to add another piece of software to a computer after linux was installed, they'd probably never really have a need for anything else or if they did, it wouldn't be all that terrible. Windows on the other hand comes with nothing! You get notepad, paint, and solitaire...oh joy. Does it even come with wordpad anymore?
And then you get to the drivers... installing drivers on windows is hell and requires continuous reboots. If you don't have a driver for your NIC (and yes its happened to me before) you can't even go up on the net to d/l them. You have to find another computer and get them! Its nuts! Microsoft has horrible hardware support, its just that Hardware vendors have good Microsoft support. Not every little bit of hardware may work with my linux box, but 99% of it does, and at least if I know its compatible with linux then I'll never have to fuss with anything and it'll just work.
Someone above mentioned Mac's support for hardware being good..its built on freebsd, its good hardware support is good simply because they know exactly what hardware will be running on your machine and how it will be configured, you don't have a million different configurations like on a PC. Regards, Steve
Well for one, fedora by design is very non-root centric and I don't believe any user will typically be running as root. There is no need for an average user to ever be root, even up2date jsut asks for the root password when you double click it. Because of this adduser as well as most(all) of the other commands aren't in your path and all this spits out is a bunch of "bash: adduser: command not found". Even if it was in your path, you don't have permission to run it. As long as your not running as root this particular virus still isn't a problem, although thats not to say that future variations won't be. I assume Yahoo and Red Hat will take care of this quickly and whatever Romanian (In one of the other threads it was pretty much confirmed thats where this originated from) is going to be dealt with. Regards, Steve
yea most people don't realize that we aren't fighting a typical war now. We are protecting the citizens from terrorists that live amongst them. There is no easy way to differentiate who is who until a gun is pointed at you or a bomb is exploding. If this was a typicaly war where your objective is to just crush the other side to shut them up, I don't think anyone would argue that this would be no contest. Regards, Steve
So many mistakes in at least 20 schools that I looked at. This survey is worthless. And the mistakes benefit some while hurting others. Two of the top 25 schools are in Philadelphia, Univ. of Penn and Temple. Whoever answered the questions for Temple was stretching the truth a bit, the questions don't really ask to what extent the technology is used, just if it is at all(i.e. they have a wireless network covering two floors of one building and thats about it).I go to Drexel University, University of Pennsylvania's neighbor, part of our campus actually overlaps, and we share security with them and because of this I frequent Penn's campus. Drexel is way more connected and in the survey it said they don't provided web pages and we don't offer courses in emerging technologies! Emerging technologies are one of our biggest focuses. Our survey had "no" for 6 answers when in reality the only one that is no is "Does tuition include a computer." and they have our computer to person ratio at 8/100, they don't account for the fact that every student has their own computer. The real ratio is something like 99.97%. And then the survey left out things like Internet2 of which my school was one of the first on it and I use it quite often and its quite impressive. Regards, Steve
I recently started using ruby. It is really really nice thus far. I run it on linux, but this is a one-click installer for windows. Check it out, it's worth eventually at least mentioning to students so they know it exists. Python or ruby are good languages to start off with, but I found that javascript seems to spark people's interest the quickest. I believe its because you instantly create graphical projects with things that can move, flash, and that you control. It's also very easy for them to show off their javascript creations to their friends and family so there is a motivational factor as well. Most people aren't too impressed with the command line despite its power and it would take a while for you to get to anything graphical in python or ruby. Javascript is cross platform, works just about anywhere and requires no special tools or programs other then a web browser. It's worth at least thinking about. Good luck. Regards, Steve
More importantly, a point which everyone seems to be forgetting, is that the damn program is still *beta* and not only that, but its still in Google labs. So lets see... A beta product still in the lab thats designed for personal use on a personal computer, assuming a public terminal should be fairly locked down(i.e. at my libray you can't install, yet alone right click) so that other people can't install things, what sane administrator would install this program on a public computer!?!? All of these people are trying to take a story about an insecure operating system being administered by ignorant sys admins and turn it into something against Google. Regards, Steve
Ever hear of a collision octree? Collision Detection hasn't been O(n^{2}) for a while. Hell, we can easily do real time collision detection amongst two models each composed of about 16 million polygons on your typical desktop system. Regards, Steve
This is why the missions to mars are so important, if we start living forever we are going to need to expand. Of course this would be following the trend of our past history, we start in a small location (often thought to be africa) and slowly move outward, adapting to the environment or changing the environment to adapt to us (most often a little of both), now we've almost filled the earth and we are figuring out how to adapt to our next frontier. Once we conquer the local planets and are able to successfully live outside of earth's atmosphere, we will quickly take over the solar system (as much of it as we can) and then probably the whole galaxy and so on. This is just how we work, its what we are designed to do. Technology and tools are just a part of evolution, the physical body only evolves so much and so fast, our minds are outpacing our bodies, so we are using our minds to catch up and imporve what we see fit. Nanotech, space exploration, and anti-aging technologies are probably the most important things being researched right now and are most likely going to all be successful simply because it fits into the continuation of our species as it has always existed. Regards, Steve
Trust me, if something originated here and somehow was tranferred somewhere else and the US wasn't pleased with that, it'd quickly be taken care of. Regards, Steve
Did you see these: talking manwalking man Those look pretty incredible to me as far as animations go and other then a few minor things too perfect to be hand drawn, I'd be hard pressed to distinguish it from a hand drawn animation. Regards, Steve
Really? Because my default FC2 installation forbids anyone or any group from viewing anything in my home directory. My home directory is where anything personal is kept, and this is what the writer of the article is complaining about.The settings are similar on my debian server too, although thats been running so long I forget if I set it that way or if it came that way. Regards, Steve
I'm just curious but... isn't it a flaw of the operating system that files generated by a user aren't automatically restricted to access by that user? This isn't google's fault, the same exact design ported to linux would work flawlessly. Regards, Steve
Well, the desktop search tool also indexes all files on your computer right? So it should still pick them up, just might be categorzied differently or something.So far I'm loving it, just wish there was a linux version because I only use windows at work. Speaking of which...I should probably get back to it. Regards, Steve
I'm using it and its still amazingly useful despite the MS centric type of thing. Don't just sit around though, go make the suggestion on their website. I already submitted a request for firefox support and also linux support.The more voices they hear, the sooner we'll see it. Regards, Steve
Nader and Kerry imho put GWB to shame. Kerry did kind of avoid some questions, but I don't believe he ever avoided an entire question (either by declining to answer it, or just filling the response with nonsense about nonsense)...like someone else. The things Kerry did answer were answered really well. Nader also had some really good replies, but some of them were just so extreme that they were nearly ridiculous and would never work in real life. If the alternative parties stopped being so weird maybe they'd get some votes, but as of right now, despite some good replies I can't take Nader seriously. Regards, Steve
Fedora Core 2 came with OOo using the gtk interface, this has not been an issue for nearly 6 months for me. And expect it to only get better (I'm not sure if the recently released 1.1.3 uses the gtk interface, the fedora crew IIRC back ported some CVS features or something like that to get GTK, I might be mixing details though, its been months since I've looked into it), the reason OOo's interface has always been a problem, and OOo's memory etc... was abnormally high is simply because the OOo code base is 15 years old. 15 years ago there was no standard or unified desktop of *anykind* so they needed to implement their own toolkit and in some cases even had to implement an entire desktop environment that looked similar(kind of) to older Windows, but then again older Windows looked alot like many other OSes at the time too. Now that the major operating systems are starting to get their act together and have a consistent, unified desktop of sorts, OOo is revamping its code to take advantage of this fact. OOo 2.0 should be amazing, and by that time I don't beleive there will be any reason to not use it, unless you need some form of Microsoft DRM nonsense. Hope this clears things up. Regrds, Steve
If you have the fonts accessible to the linux computer (either on disk or the same harddive or however)and are using any modern version of gnome (i.e. Fedora Core 2), just drag the fonts into the Font directory, Gnome does everything for you. Regards, Steve
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The browser is the portal to the world's information. It is also one of Microsoft's most entrenched products and MS has made companies go bankrupt just to force IE on users. If we can beat MS at the browser war, then all of the sudden web sites will have to start being standards compliant, all of the sudden Linux users can bank online, all of the sudden the world has realized that Open Source is a viable alternative and has quality. If firefox can get on the majority of desktops then people will be more receptive to Open Source, they will know its out there, something many people don't know right now. The user base of OSS and OSS operating systems will go up. It will give companies incentives to write cross platform applications and drivers. Maybe in a year or two you'll see OpenOffice.Org starting to cut into MS's office space too. All of the sudden people will have very few reasons not to switch to linux, they can no longer say that they won't be able to view certain websites because the web will be standardized and they won't be able to say that they can't exchange documents because by OpenOffice.org 2.0 I would suspect that it'll be far greater competition to MS (not that it isn't already). Yes, wikipedia is important, but not everybody needs an encyclopedia all the time. This is a good effort and will help everyone in OSS over the long run.
Regards,
Steve
You lucky fool... font's are your biggest problem with SuSE? Heh I couldn't keep it on my laptop, just too many problems. I personally think that my laptop is pretty standard hardware, knoppix can install on it fine and Fedora runs wonderfully, SuSE just isn't an option for me right now.
Regards,
Steve
Um... Fedora Core 2 has had the 2.6 kernel and 2.6 Gnome for many months. Fedora Core 3 being released on November 8th will have kernel 2.6.9 (which will be great for my laptop) , Gnome 2.8 and KDE 3.3, as well as many other really cool features like SELinux. Yoper has had the 2.6 kernel and KDE 3.3. Many other distros have these things also. SUSE is a bit behind times.
Regards,
Steve
Actually... as far as business goes, Redhat has about 3 times the marketshare.
Regards,
Steve
Wow... did you ever here the cliche of a face so ugly it breaks mirrors... that site is so horrendous it breaks apache. Anyway...your huge community doesn't seem to be all that huge... google uses a modified version of apache, slashdot uses apache, sourceforge.net uses apache, and Amazon.com runs apache... as well as many others. If your having hours of downtime a day you must not be all there in your head. Seriously, go download Fedora Core 2, install it, everything will be set up for you... port your code to php or jsp or whatever if your finding it unstable. Coldfusion is hell and way overrated. If your going to use opensource, go completely open source because thats what it was designed with in mind. But judging from your website, you've got a lot more work to do then just getting a server running properly. Ugh... go buy a book or two, one for servers and one for web design. I'm not trying to troll... I just can't believe what this guy said, never in all my years have I had any trouble with Apache, whereas I also admin an IIS server and its *hell*...but it pays the bills:)
Regards,
Steve
...and here.... 185 registered domains. I personally like "www.theWashingtonPostSpeaksToJesus.com".s ,
Regard
Steve
Heh definitly washington post.
Regards,
Steve
Saying windows comes with an ftp client is like comparing notepad to vim or emacs. Its just two different levels of play. You can't compare them. When I install linux, I have a full system from an Office Suite to a development environment to a graphics environment. If an average user never wanted to add another piece of software to a computer after linux was installed, they'd probably never really have a need for anything else or if they did, it wouldn't be all that terrible. Windows on the other hand comes with nothing! You get notepad, paint, and solitaire...oh joy. Does it even come with wordpad anymore?
And then you get to the drivers... installing drivers on windows is hell and requires continuous reboots. If you don't have a driver for your NIC (and yes its happened to me before) you can't even go up on the net to d/l them. You have to find another computer and get them! Its nuts! Microsoft has horrible hardware support, its just that Hardware vendors have good Microsoft support. Not every little bit of hardware may work with my linux box, but 99% of it does, and at least if I know its compatible with linux then I'll never have to fuss with anything and it'll just work.
Someone above mentioned Mac's support for hardware being good..its built on freebsd, its good hardware support is good simply because they know exactly what hardware will be running on your machine and how it will be configured, you don't have a million different configurations like on a PC.
Regards,
Steve
Well for one, fedora by design is very non-root centric and I don't believe any user will typically be running as root. There is no need for an average user to ever be root, even up2date jsut asks for the root password when you double click it. Because of this adduser as well as most(all) of the other commands aren't in your path and all this spits out is a bunch of "bash: adduser: command not found". Even if it was in your path, you don't have permission to run it. As long as your not running as root this particular virus still isn't a problem, although thats not to say that future variations won't be. I assume Yahoo and Red Hat will take care of this quickly and whatever Romanian (In one of the other threads it was pretty much confirmed thats where this originated from) is going to be dealt with.
Regards,
Steve
yea most people don't realize that we aren't fighting a typical war now. We are protecting the citizens from terrorists that live amongst them. There is no easy way to differentiate who is who until a gun is pointed at you or a bomb is exploding. If this was a typicaly war where your objective is to just crush the other side to shut them up, I don't think anyone would argue that this would be no contest.
Regards,
Steve
So many mistakes in at least 20 schools that I looked at. This survey is worthless. And the mistakes benefit some while hurting others. Two of the top 25 schools are in Philadelphia, Univ. of Penn and Temple. Whoever answered the questions for Temple was stretching the truth a bit, the questions don't really ask to what extent the technology is used, just if it is at all(i.e. they have a wireless network covering two floors of one building and thats about it).I go to Drexel University, University of Pennsylvania's neighbor, part of our campus actually overlaps, and we share security with them and because of this I frequent Penn's campus. Drexel is way more connected and in the survey it said they don't provided web pages and we don't offer courses in emerging technologies! Emerging technologies are one of our biggest focuses. Our survey had "no" for 6 answers when in reality the only one that is no is "Does tuition include a computer." and they have our computer to person ratio at 8/100, they don't account for the fact that every student has their own computer. The real ratio is something like 99.97%. And then the survey left out things like Internet2 of which my school was one of the first on it and I use it quite often and its quite impressive.
Regards,
Steve
I recently started using ruby. It is really really nice thus far. I run it on linux, but this is a one-click installer for windows. Check it out, it's worth eventually at least mentioning to students so they know it exists. Python or ruby are good languages to start off with, but I found that javascript seems to spark people's interest the quickest. I believe its because you instantly create graphical projects with things that can move, flash, and that you control. It's also very easy for them to show off their javascript creations to their friends and family so there is a motivational factor as well. Most people aren't too impressed with the command line despite its power and it would take a while for you to get to anything graphical in python or ruby. Javascript is cross platform, works just about anywhere and requires no special tools or programs other then a web browser. It's worth at least thinking about. Good luck.
Regards,
Steve
More importantly, a point which everyone seems to be forgetting, is that the damn program is still *beta* and not only that, but its still in Google labs. So lets see... A beta product still in the lab thats designed for personal use on a personal computer, assuming a public terminal should be fairly locked down(i.e. at my libray you can't install, yet alone right click) so that other people can't install things, what sane administrator would install this program on a public computer!?!? All of these people are trying to take a story about an insecure operating system being administered by ignorant sys admins and turn it into something against Google.
Regards,
Steve
Ever hear of a collision octree? Collision Detection hasn't been O(n^{2}) for a while. Hell, we can easily do real time collision detection amongst two models each composed of about 16 million polygons on your typical desktop system.
Regards,
Steve
This is why the missions to mars are so important, if we start living forever we are going to need to expand. Of course this would be following the trend of our past history, we start in a small location (often thought to be africa) and slowly move outward, adapting to the environment or changing the environment to adapt to us (most often a little of both), now we've almost filled the earth and we are figuring out how to adapt to our next frontier. Once we conquer the local planets and are able to successfully live outside of earth's atmosphere, we will quickly take over the solar system (as much of it as we can) and then probably the whole galaxy and so on. This is just how we work, its what we are designed to do. Technology and tools are just a part of evolution, the physical body only evolves so much and so fast, our minds are outpacing our bodies, so we are using our minds to catch up and imporve what we see fit. Nanotech, space exploration, and anti-aging technologies are probably the most important things being researched right now and are most likely going to all be successful simply because it fits into the continuation of our species as it has always existed.
Regards,
Steve
Trust me, if something originated here and somehow was tranferred somewhere else and the US wasn't pleased with that, it'd quickly be taken care of.
Regards,
Steve
Did you see these: talking man walking man
Those look pretty incredible to me as far as animations go and other then a few minor things too perfect to be hand drawn, I'd be hard pressed to distinguish it from a hand drawn animation.
Regards,
Steve
Really? Because my default FC2 installation forbids anyone or any group from viewing anything in my home directory. My home directory is where anything personal is kept, and this is what the writer of the article is complaining about.The settings are similar on my debian server too, although thats been running so long I forget if I set it that way or if it came that way.
Regards,
Steve
I'm just curious but... isn't it a flaw of the operating system that files generated by a user aren't automatically restricted to access by that user? This isn't google's fault, the same exact design ported to linux would work flawlessly.
Regards,
Steve
Well, the desktop search tool also indexes all files on your computer right? So it should still pick them up, just might be categorzied differently or something.So far I'm loving it, just wish there was a linux version because I only use windows at work. Speaking of which...I should probably get back to it.
Regards,
Steve
I'm using it and its still amazingly useful despite the MS centric type of thing. Don't just sit around though, go make the suggestion on their website. I already submitted a request for firefox support and also linux support.The more voices they hear, the sooner we'll see it.
Regards,
Steve
Nope, you don't have sign away your life just to contribute something. This is part of why Linux is so successfull.
Regards,
Steve
Nader and Kerry imho put GWB to shame. Kerry did kind of avoid some questions, but I don't believe he ever avoided an entire question (either by declining to answer it, or just filling the response with nonsense about nonsense)...like someone else. The things Kerry did answer were answered really well. Nader also had some really good replies, but some of them were just so extreme that they were nearly ridiculous and would never work in real life. If the alternative parties stopped being so weird maybe they'd get some votes, but as of right now, despite some good replies I can't take Nader seriously.
Regards,
Steve
Fedora Core 2 came with OOo using the gtk interface, this has not been an issue for nearly 6 months for me. And expect it to only get better (I'm not sure if the recently released 1.1.3 uses the gtk interface, the fedora crew IIRC back ported some CVS features or something like that to get GTK, I might be mixing details though, its been months since I've looked into it), the reason OOo's interface has always been a problem, and OOo's memory etc... was abnormally high is simply because the OOo code base is 15 years old. 15 years ago there was no standard or unified desktop of *anykind* so they needed to implement their own toolkit and in some cases even had to implement an entire desktop environment that looked similar(kind of) to older Windows, but then again older Windows looked alot like many other OSes at the time too. Now that the major operating systems are starting to get their act together and have a consistent, unified desktop of sorts, OOo is revamping its code to take advantage of this fact. OOo 2.0 should be amazing, and by that time I don't beleive there will be any reason to not use it, unless you need some form of Microsoft DRM nonsense. Hope this clears things up.
Regrds,
Steve
If you have the fonts accessible to the linux computer (either on disk or the same harddive or however)and are using any modern version of gnome (i.e. Fedora Core 2), just drag the fonts into the Font directory, Gnome does everything for you.
Regards,
Steve