Mmmmm... Chipotle.:) Their Margarita's are surprisingly good with a good price too. But damn, they make their "steamed" rice with vegetable oil, making it high in fat. WTF?
I read it that way too. They should've used OSS in place of OS when referring to Open Source. It makes grammatic sense and also uses the correct acronyms for what the intended meaning is. It's frustrating when people modify acronyms on the fly when the result overlaps with pre-existing acronyms for completely different stuff.
I wouldn't prefer that. I never liked Spin City, even if I think I can accurately judge the underlying meaning of its people. I'd prefer hard facts and a story about what is observed at the scene where the event is happening so that I may draw my own conclusions. I'd rather not have spin, left or right, and I don't care what the anchors feel about the rightness, wrongness or justness of the situation. I'd prefer that they report the news. Period. That's a pipe dream, I know, and I guess that's why I rarely pay attention to mainstream american media anymore.
Exactly. If businesses are to use this information as a starting point or bearing at all on where they should start looking for the most bang for their buck then cost needs to be factored in. It makes little sense for a business to buy a supercomputer that is 2x the speed of a competitor, but yet it costs 4x the price to build and has a higher the electricity bill, maintenance bill, etc.. That's actually one reason I was disappointed to see Transmeta exiting the market; they better dollar per flop ranking, or so was the claim of the Green Destiny.
What good is syndicated news if there are no links to the syndicated information? What it has lead to is a bunch of people who should be modded as redundant for all providing links to the info that should've been included in the summary. Oh well, it's free news and entertainment. I can't complain. I can laugh at the irony of having a site which often lacks logic even though its content is mainly about science and technology, both of which logic is pretty much the foundation for, but I can't complain.
That sounds like an old neighborhood. All the new ones are named after the birds and trees that existed there before they were chased out and plowed over to build pop-up houses.
Um... I don't know about you, but my TV doesn't have an internet connection, or a few GB of RAM, or an interface that let's me install software onto it much less the capability to do so, or a CPU that runs over a few Ghz. That must be why TV's cost a hundred or so dollars and the average computer doesn't, and why computers aren't called "TV+HDD".
"Hard disks for the most part are now better designed than back in the days"? Seriously? Besides that being an incredibly vague statement in relation to time, stating nothing more than "we've made technological process during human existence", a hard disk is not the only factor in booting a system. You also make it sound like there's no sleep function.
I have no idea how that post got moderated informative... How about "Grammatical Nightmare"?
The problem with moderation is that if you let users create moderated rooms there has to be a hierarchy of authority, and that is coming from the perspective of the mod. Assuming the room creator is the mod, he's not going to kick anybody out of his chat room except people who find it offensive and complain about it. Assuming it's people that Y! pays or allows to moderate, I don't think the situation would be much different from how it is now that the rooms are shut down, except they probably would've only shut down the questionable ones. With an objective mod system it would be more like AOL's TOS violation reporting. However, maybe they could adopt something like what/. has where moderators get meta-moderated. Again though, it goes back to an objective measure of what is acceptable and what is not, but that could be difficult in a situation where creating a chat room happens instantaneously, rather than waiting to be approved by an editor like around here. Now I'm having flashbacks to AOL.. bah.
As for Y!'s chat room service in general, I never thought it was that great, but probably the best use I ever saw of it was people using the audio-chat to take turns DJing their favorite music to the room.
I don't think the reason it's free is because it's crap. I've never programmed with it either, but I read an interview with Jonathan Rentzsch a while back that praised it greatly:
When I picked up WO in 2000, I told pretty much anyone who listened that while WebObjects is the most advanced application server out there, that open source would catch up with it inside five years.
Yet here we are in 2005, and there's still nothing close. Believe me, I've been looking. Read the WebObjects developer mailing list for a recap of the treatment WebObjects developers got at WWDC 2004.
I would love to get off WebObjects and replace it with something open source. It would make web application development pitches easier if I never have to mention the dreaded "A" word. I have clients who will simply shut the door if I mention Apple's name, even today.
So I keep an eye on projects like Hibernate, Cayenne, Tapestry and Ruby on Rails. And yet, each time I start a new project, I do the math and rediscover WebObjects will deliver better software in less time. Lord, I wish it weren't true, but it is.
You know, I was out walking at lunch and I realized that this OS seems geared towards a more knowledgable, learned audience who have been trained or educated in how to use it, which is definitely not the crowd I fall into. An old co-worker had used it in the Airforce, I sure which he had been tasked with this! I was reading and reading and reading through these manuals and I did find a bunch of stuff where I thought "Damn, I've always wanted that ability in linux/windows/os x." This seems like a bigger change from Linux than BSD was, and I guess I wasn't expecting that. Still terribly frustrated... No worries about the tone of your reply, and thanks again for all the info. I'll probably be sorting through that newsgroup over the next few days, but I already downloaded every pdf from dosc.sun.com that has anything to do with Solaris 9, IP services, etc.. Right now I'm trying to figure out why examples from the manual for dhcpconfig return errors. Didn't expect to see Java errors in the terminal, especially on textbook examples:
bash-2.05# dhcpconfig -D -r SUNWfiles -p/etc/dhcp
Created DHCP configuration file.
Created dhcptab.
Added "Locale" macro to dhcptab.
dhcpconfig: Error - creating server macro for server java.lang.NullPointerException.
Hmm... maybe it's a hostname problem. Anyhow, thanks again for all the info.
Thanks for the useful info. You're totally right about the `apropos` man page. I skipped right over the description because I know what it does and I thought that's what would be there and I should've read the diagnostics, but I found the info elsewhere. It does seem odd to me that they wouldn't run the `catman` command while setting up the rest of the server info. As for my network problems, looking back on it, the problem I was having with `ifconfig` was that the interfaces weren't set up, and that's what I was trying to do. `ifconfig -a` just showed le0. The Solaris 9 manual said to create a file called "/etc/hostname.interface name" but never told me what the interfaces were supposed to be called. I had found/dev/hme so I thought that was it and wasted a bunch of time on that and other interface names I found in forums before just doing a `sys-unconfig`. I'm still trying to figure out how to get dhcp set up and I've gone through like 5 tutorials.
I think it's sad that I'm asking an honest question, honestly frustrated with solaris, honestly trying to get Solaris to work right for me, but by expressing my frustrations and asking Solaris Guru's, who will no doubt be reading this thread, why Solaris is so much better I get modded down as a troll. I can take a firm rebuke and a disagreement in why Solaris is frustrating/better/worse, but I'm not trolling. I'm trying to frustratedly trying to configure a Solaris server.
I've recently been tasked with setting up a Solaris server and I haven't touched Solaris in a long time. I've been happily using Linux for my server stuff and OS X for desktop stuff. After using Solaris for the last few days, even though I'm the one who feels used, I wonder why people are so excited about this news. I mean, I just don't see how this is better than linux, and if I were a Solaris admin I'd be running to Linux with arms wide open. I mean, `apropos` isn't working out of the box, but the man page for it hasn't been updated since Dec 20th 1996 and doesn't contain any information that I hadn't already deduced. `dhcpconfig` returned a Java library error. The text interface name is referred to countless times in the 1500+ pages of pdf manuals I have here, but nowhere did it tell me that interfaces are named bge#... or was it ie#? or le#? Honestly, the text "bge" shows up twice in the manauls in the context of the `prtdiag` command in the manual for the hardware, not Solaris itself. Commands are helpless, for instance, needing you to explicitly issue an interface name with `ifconfig` or it would just return the standard help dialog. `ifconfig -a` was no help, it also needs an explicit interface name. The manuals are awful, giving no examples and reiterating the obvious. ("2. Type the host name of the machine in the file/etc/nodename. For example, if the name of the host is tenere, type tenere in the file."... duh) The commands are not helpful and neither are the man pages, but the hardware is awesome. It just makes me wonder, why would anybody choose Solaris over Linux?
While they're not in the consumer market, Apple hardware with Intel chips already ARE for sale, you just have to go through the proper channels. You make it sound as if being proactive and having progressive thought are bad things. Besides, waiting for Apple to sell computers to consumers isn't going to tell us if piracy is their strategy. NOT waiting might though.
Longhorn is going to be packed with golden goodies which are so wonderful that nobody will be able to see them. It will take the few years following for their opacity to set in.
dropping data from a study based on a gut feeling and failing to include data that contradicts one's own research
Well, that's not science then, is it? Science is about observing the behaviors of the world and the aspects thereof, not proving that you're intelligent.
As a representative of Microsoft(TM) Public Relations and Marketing Research, I'd like to formally offer you a job. You seem to have just the qualities we look for, you'll fit right in.
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Mmmmm... Chipotle. :) Their Margarita's are surprisingly good with a good price too. But damn, they make their "steamed" rice with vegetable oil, making it high in fat. WTF?
I'm curious how that relates to this thread. Does Auto-Zone support FOSS and openly oppose SCO or something?
I read it that way too. They should've used OSS in place of OS when referring to Open Source. It makes grammatic sense and also uses the correct acronyms for what the intended meaning is. It's frustrating when people modify acronyms on the fly when the result overlaps with pre-existing acronyms for completely different stuff.
I wouldn't prefer that. I never liked Spin City, even if I think I can accurately judge the underlying meaning of its people. I'd prefer hard facts and a story about what is observed at the scene where the event is happening so that I may draw my own conclusions. I'd rather not have spin, left or right, and I don't care what the anchors feel about the rightness, wrongness or justness of the situation. I'd prefer that they report the news. Period. That's a pipe dream, I know, and I guess that's why I rarely pay attention to mainstream american media anymore.
Exactly. If businesses are to use this information as a starting point or bearing at all on where they should start looking for the most bang for their buck then cost needs to be factored in. It makes little sense for a business to buy a supercomputer that is 2x the speed of a competitor, but yet it costs 4x the price to build and has a higher the electricity bill, maintenance bill, etc.. That's actually one reason I was disappointed to see Transmeta exiting the market; they better dollar per flop ranking, or so was the claim of the Green Destiny.
What good is syndicated news if there are no links to the syndicated information? What it has lead to is a bunch of people who should be modded as redundant for all providing links to the info that should've been included in the summary. Oh well, it's free news and entertainment. I can't complain. I can laugh at the irony of having a site which often lacks logic even though its content is mainly about science and technology, both of which logic is pretty much the foundation for, but I can't complain.
Seriously, what's up with the iPod quote? People say the most random shit around here.
That sounds like an old neighborhood. All the new ones are named after the birds and trees that existed there before they were chased out and plowed over to build pop-up houses.
I'm KEEPING my two cents, dammit!
Um... I don't know about you, but my TV doesn't have an internet connection, or a few GB of RAM, or an interface that let's me install software onto it much less the capability to do so, or a CPU that runs over a few Ghz. That must be why TV's cost a hundred or so dollars and the average computer doesn't, and why computers aren't called "TV+HDD".
"Hard disks for the most part are now better designed than back in the days"? Seriously? Besides that being an incredibly vague statement in relation to time, stating nothing more than "we've made technological process during human existence", a hard disk is not the only factor in booting a system. You also make it sound like there's no sleep function.
I have no idea how that post got moderated informative... How about "Grammatical Nightmare"?
The problem with moderation is that if you let users create moderated rooms there has to be a hierarchy of authority, and that is coming from the perspective of the mod. Assuming the room creator is the mod, he's not going to kick anybody out of his chat room except people who find it offensive and complain about it. Assuming it's people that Y! pays or allows to moderate, I don't think the situation would be much different from how it is now that the rooms are shut down, except they probably would've only shut down the questionable ones. With an objective mod system it would be more like AOL's TOS violation reporting. However, maybe they could adopt something like what /. has where moderators get meta-moderated. Again though, it goes back to an objective measure of what is acceptable and what is not, but that could be difficult in a situation where creating a chat room happens instantaneously, rather than waiting to be approved by an editor like around here. Now I'm having flashbacks to AOL.. bah.
As for Y!'s chat room service in general, I never thought it was that great, but probably the best use I ever saw of it was people using the audio-chat to take turns DJing their favorite music to the room.
It's on the desktop, near the My Computer, My Network Places and My Documents icons.
You know, I was out walking at lunch and I realized that this OS seems geared towards a more knowledgable, learned audience who have been trained or educated in how to use it, which is definitely not the crowd I fall into. An old co-worker had used it in the Airforce, I sure which he had been tasked with this! I was reading and reading and reading through these manuals and I did find a bunch of stuff where I thought "Damn, I've always wanted that ability in linux/windows/os x." This seems like a bigger change from Linux than BSD was, and I guess I wasn't expecting that. Still terribly frustrated... No worries about the tone of your reply, and thanks again for all the info. I'll probably be sorting through that newsgroup over the next few days, but I already downloaded every pdf from dosc.sun.com that has anything to do with Solaris 9, IP services, etc.. Right now I'm trying to figure out why examples from the manual for dhcpconfig return errors. Didn't expect to see Java errors in the terminal, especially on textbook examples:
/etc/dhcp
bash-2.05# dhcpconfig -D -r SUNWfiles -p
Created DHCP configuration file.
Created dhcptab.
Added "Locale" macro to dhcptab.
dhcpconfig: Error - creating server macro for server java.lang.NullPointerException.
Hmm... maybe it's a hostname problem. Anyhow, thanks again for all the info.
Thanks for the useful info. You're totally right about the `apropos` man page. I skipped right over the description because I know what it does and I thought that's what would be there and I should've read the diagnostics, but I found the info elsewhere. It does seem odd to me that they wouldn't run the `catman` command while setting up the rest of the server info. As for my network problems, looking back on it, the problem I was having with `ifconfig` was that the interfaces weren't set up, and that's what I was trying to do. `ifconfig -a` just showed le0. The Solaris 9 manual said to create a file called "/etc/hostname.interface name" but never told me what the interfaces were supposed to be called. I had found /dev/hme so I thought that was it and wasted a bunch of time on that and other interface names I found in forums before just doing a `sys-unconfig`. I'm still trying to figure out how to get dhcp set up and I've gone through like 5 tutorials.
I think it's sad that I'm asking an honest question, honestly frustrated with solaris, honestly trying to get Solaris to work right for me, but by expressing my frustrations and asking Solaris Guru's, who will no doubt be reading this thread, why Solaris is so much better I get modded down as a troll. I can take a firm rebuke and a disagreement in why Solaris is frustrating/better/worse, but I'm not trolling. I'm trying to frustratedly trying to configure a Solaris server.
I've recently been tasked with setting up a Solaris server and I haven't touched Solaris in a long time. I've been happily using Linux for my server stuff and OS X for desktop stuff. After using Solaris for the last few days, even though I'm the one who feels used, I wonder why people are so excited about this news. I mean, I just don't see how this is better than linux, and if I were a Solaris admin I'd be running to Linux with arms wide open. I mean, `apropos` isn't working out of the box, but the man page for it hasn't been updated since Dec 20th 1996 and doesn't contain any information that I hadn't already deduced. `dhcpconfig` returned a Java library error. The text interface name is referred to countless times in the 1500+ pages of pdf manuals I have here, but nowhere did it tell me that interfaces are named bge#... or was it ie#? or le#? Honestly, the text "bge" shows up twice in the manauls in the context of the `prtdiag` command in the manual for the hardware, not Solaris itself. Commands are helpless, for instance, needing you to explicitly issue an interface name with `ifconfig` or it would just return the standard help dialog. `ifconfig -a` was no help, it also needs an explicit interface name. The manuals are awful, giving no examples and reiterating the obvious. ("2. Type the host name of the machine in the file /etc/nodename. For example, if the name of the host is tenere, type tenere in the file."... duh) The commands are not helpful and neither are the man pages, but the hardware is awesome. It just makes me wonder, why would anybody choose Solaris over Linux?
While they're not in the consumer market, Apple hardware with Intel chips already ARE for sale, you just have to go through the proper channels. You make it sound as if being proactive and having progressive thought are bad things. Besides, waiting for Apple to sell computers to consumers isn't going to tell us if piracy is their strategy. NOT waiting might though.
Somebody better tell Chris Seibold.
That must be a great experience, it gets italics and quotes.
Longhorn is going to be packed with golden goodies which are so wonderful that nobody will be able to see them. It will take the few years following for their opacity to set in.
So, when does work on PS3 Media Center start? :)
As a representative of Microsoft(TM) Public Relations and Marketing Research, I'd like to formally offer you a job. You seem to have just the qualities we look for, you'll fit right in.
The headline "world's biggest hacker held" is too positively connoted. It makes me think that some fat smart guy is getting some lovin'.