you know though, i'd say that pigeons are more like a connectionless protocol, like UDP, since you don't really get feedback. homing pigeons are one-way, you know. now, if we could train a dog to run to all the various caves and then back to base it'd be something like token ring.
I find it ironic that their guideline page displays badly in safari. I didn't have any resources around to check it in other browsers, but should there even be a need? I didn't see a guideline for browser compatibility though, so maybe they just don't care about that.
nobody gets modded down for picking linux, especially when that's the most sensible answer! i mean, come on... if you want to run something as slim and trim as you could, in order to get the best performance at and the least overhead are you going to pick something that runs on a kernel you can compile yourself? of course you are. where i work we use highly tweaked linux kernels for our servers and embedded platforms, because we need to. running windows wouldn't even be an option, and we migrated a lot of our embedded platform from a different propiretary posix-based OS. i tell you this, it's much easier to be working on a trimmed version of something that has as much documentation as linux does, even if some of the basic bells and whistles were removed for speed and space.
You know, the idea behind this project (3ddesktop) is something i'd been thinking about, or at least real similar to something i'd been thinking about before. It's funny, because i really like os x and usually if i point out cool features to the linux zealots they say "who needs it to be pretty if it does it's job?" (but then they point out that GTK 2 looks better...?) then the linux community goes and makes something like this. to me, that shows that people really DO care about what things look like in a UI, which it does, and shows that we don't want to work in a kludgy environment. on top of that, seeing your screens switch from one desktop to another and seeing where they all go gives you a spatial awareness of your workspaces, so really something like this is very useful and caters to those who need help knowing where all their stuff really is. it's the nature of meat-space, and last i checked, which was several years ago, this was part of SGI's mission statement... to get people working in an environment that felt like a meat-space environment. this spatial awareness aspect also applies to expose, and software mentioned in the root article of this thread, whatever that was.;)
lastly, i'd like to point out that something like this 3d desktop, as cool as it is, doesn't make it into any default install that i've ever done of linux. i would LOVE to see it there. in fact, i would have LOVED to know that this project even EXISTED before this, but i didn't. that is why apple gets so much hype for things like expose... people know about them because they get hyped. you can go down to the fry's or compusa and take a look for yourself. perhaps the linux community needs to come up with a system of advertising their software so that people can see all of the options they have... i certainly would prefer a 3ddesktop banner as opposed to some x10 banner. (to digress, since i know i'll get flamed for it, i DO realize that banners cost money, but in a free, community type area you'd think that somebody would be kind enough to donate some banner space...) it would also be awesome to walk into compusa and see x86 boxen running something other than windows xp. if people could walk in and see what linux has to offer, side by side, linux and the community would only get stronger.
linux needs to be hyped, and has reason to be, because even though it offers viable alternatives to expensive, closed source solutions nobody sees them advertised or in action in mainstream media.
if there is an implied "that doesn't have anything to do with the UI" at the end of your comment, then maybe not a whole lot... tell me you've seen something like expose in another OS. so, there's one new thing...
i have to say i feel the same way. i like the way KDE is coming along, but it really isn't as responsive, consistent, and clean looking (ie: tearing) as OS X. i still have a few linux boxes around, but only one of them still runs x. i think the alt-right-click and shift-right-click, and other tricks like that definitely give KDE some advantages over other UI's, but OS X is my fav, and it has only broken on me once, during a system update i might add...
another thing i'd like to say about the user experience on the mac is that launchbar is INCREDIBLE, and is by far the best navigation tool i've ever used, hands down, no questions asked, period. if the old OSS guys made something like launchbar for KDE they'd be doing everybody a big favor, and getting innumerable brownie points.
that's the first thing i thought! i love that movie, and i always thought the monocycle was such a cool concept, yet wondered how it would be possible. it's awesome to see another area of science fiction becoming a reality, especially because that thing is soooo slick looking. i'm sure even the guys at apple are drooling over it.;-)
vmware still requires windows to be the final solution to whatever problem it is that requires vmware to solve. it's true, some apps only do run in windows, and that's a damn shame.
1984 was the first thing i thought. pretty soon it'll be north korea and not iraq that we've been fighting against, and all the double-think sheeple will sip their latte's and diregard the difference. big brother's out there kicking somebody's ass regardless.
i never said that the update alone caused the problems. in fact, i know that the update along with transparent dock caused the problem, however, knowing that was no consolation when my dock was crashing before my eyes and i had to ssh into my box to fix things. that experience has given me hesitance to update, lest i end up in some other problematic situation, whether it's cause is purely apple's or not. placing blame or even finding the cause is still not a solution, so i choose to try to not have problems in the first place.
you know, i used to install all the latest updates as soon as my mac found them. that all changed when i installed the 10.2.8 update and the ethernet card on my g4 tower quit working, and my dock went into a crash loop. from then on i have been waiting a few days.. no sense in rushing to upgrade when my software already works.
"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." -- cs lewis
i've heard this argument before, and really winamp and xmms are the best slim trim mp3 players i've used, however, itunes is a music database which, among other things, offers dynamic playlists by genre, rating, album, artist, play count, etc. etc., so you really can't classify itunes as the same type of app as xmms or winamp.
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linux changes it's defaults? linux itself does? all along i thought this was party of the diversity in distros.
you know though, i'd say that pigeons are more like a connectionless protocol, like UDP, since you don't really get feedback. homing pigeons are one-way, you know. now, if we could train a dog to run to all the various caves and then back to base it'd be something like token ring.
and of course, higher density media.
I find it ironic that their guideline page displays badly in safari. I didn't have any resources around to check it in other browsers, but should there even be a need? I didn't see a guideline for browser compatibility though, so maybe they just don't care about that.
nobody gets modded down for picking linux, especially when that's the most sensible answer! i mean, come on... if you want to run something as slim and trim as you could, in order to get the best performance at and the least overhead are you going to pick something that runs on a kernel you can compile yourself? of course you are. where i work we use highly tweaked linux kernels for our servers and embedded platforms, because we need to. running windows wouldn't even be an option, and we migrated a lot of our embedded platform from a different propiretary posix-based OS. i tell you this, it's much easier to be working on a trimmed version of something that has as much documentation as linux does, even if some of the basic bells and whistles were removed for speed and space.
You know, the idea behind this project (3ddesktop) is something i'd been thinking about, or at least real similar to something i'd been thinking about before. It's funny, because i really like os x and usually if i point out cool features to the linux zealots they say "who needs it to be pretty if it does it's job?" (but then they point out that GTK 2 looks better...?) then the linux community goes and makes something like this. to me, that shows that people really DO care about what things look like in a UI, which it does, and shows that we don't want to work in a kludgy environment. on top of that, seeing your screens switch from one desktop to another and seeing where they all go gives you a spatial awareness of your workspaces, so really something like this is very useful and caters to those who need help knowing where all their stuff really is. it's the nature of meat-space, and last i checked, which was several years ago, this was part of SGI's mission statement... to get people working in an environment that felt like a meat-space environment. this spatial awareness aspect also applies to expose, and software mentioned in the root article of this thread, whatever that was. ;)
lastly, i'd like to point out that something like this 3d desktop, as cool as it is, doesn't make it into any default install that i've ever done of linux. i would LOVE to see it there. in fact, i would have LOVED to know that this project even EXISTED before this, but i didn't. that is why apple gets so much hype for things like expose... people know about them because they get hyped. you can go down to the fry's or compusa and take a look for yourself. perhaps the linux community needs to come up with a system of advertising their software so that people can see all of the options they have... i certainly would prefer a 3ddesktop banner as opposed to some x10 banner. (to digress, since i know i'll get flamed for it, i DO realize that banners cost money, but in a free, community type area you'd think that somebody would be kind enough to donate some banner space...) it would also be awesome to walk into compusa and see x86 boxen running something other than windows xp. if people could walk in and see what linux has to offer, side by side, linux and the community would only get stronger.
linux needs to be hyped, and has reason to be, because even though it offers viable alternatives to expensive, closed source solutions nobody sees them advertised or in action in mainstream media.
if there is an implied "that doesn't have anything to do with the UI" at the end of your comment, then maybe not a whole lot... tell me you've seen something like expose in another OS. so, there's one new thing...
personally, i'd take DOS off a system like that.
i have to say i feel the same way. i like the way KDE is coming along, but it really isn't as responsive, consistent, and clean looking (ie: tearing) as OS X. i still have a few linux boxes around, but only one of them still runs x. i think the alt-right-click and shift-right-click, and other tricks like that definitely give KDE some advantages over other UI's, but OS X is my fav, and it has only broken on me once, during a system update i might add... another thing i'd like to say about the user experience on the mac is that launchbar is INCREDIBLE, and is by far the best navigation tool i've ever used, hands down, no questions asked, period. if the old OSS guys made something like launchbar for KDE they'd be doing everybody a big favor, and getting innumerable brownie points.
you forgot the indescribably beaten to a bloody death usage of "i, for one, welcome apple as the smtp overlords."
that's the first thing i thought! i love that movie, and i always thought the monocycle was such a cool concept, yet wondered how it would be possible. it's awesome to see another area of science fiction becoming a reality, especially because that thing is soooo slick looking. i'm sure even the guys at apple are drooling over it. ;-)
vmware still requires windows to be the final solution to whatever problem it is that requires vmware to solve. it's true, some apps only do run in windows, and that's a damn shame.
just like a g33k to be stuck in a sausage fest with no girls. =P
1984 was the first thing i thought. pretty soon it'll be north korea and not iraq that we've been fighting against, and all the double-think sheeple will sip their latte's and diregard the difference. big brother's out there kicking somebody's ass regardless.
i never said that the update alone caused the problems. in fact, i know that the update along with transparent dock caused the problem, however, knowing that was no consolation when my dock was crashing before my eyes and i had to ssh into my box to fix things. that experience has given me hesitance to update, lest i end up in some other problematic situation, whether it's cause is purely apple's or not. placing blame or even finding the cause is still not a solution, so i choose to try to not have problems in the first place.
you know, i used to install all the latest updates as soon as my mac found them. that all changed when i installed the 10.2.8 update and the ethernet card on my g4 tower quit working, and my dock went into a crash loop. from then on i have been waiting a few days.. no sense in rushing to upgrade when my software already works.
i'm not saying it's possible to remotely exploit an xbox, i'm saying that it doesn't require hardware modifications.
you clearly haven't bothered to bother looking things up, but rather jump to inaccurate conclusions..
xbox-linux faq about methods of installation
not to mention that anything you can replicate with lego's would be hard to image as being the greatest invention of the year.
http://perso.freelug.org/legway/LegWay.html
"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." -- cs lewis
my first thoughts exactly...
if that's the case i'm not sorry to say i'm a necrophile.
perhaps FP means fourth post? since we don't know what it truly means it is a problem like schrodinger's cat.
i've heard this argument before, and really winamp and xmms are the best slim trim mp3 players i've used, however, itunes is a music database which, among other things, offers dynamic playlists by genre, rating, album, artist, play count, etc. etc., so you really can't classify itunes as the same type of app as xmms or winamp.
the user-agent is supplies is inconclusive, just says itunes windows xp etc..