1: but the graphical interfaces are more responsive on Windows than through an X interface.
Isnt that what we've been saying all this time?
2: Yes, long ago. Multics was an acronym for something like Multiplexed Information and Computing Service, and it was big and complicated because it had many of everything.
Are there still any usable capibility systems out there? My friend found an old PrimeOS box with everything. Yet to get it running, as damn near every port is the same (spitz n sparken if you're wrong).
3: C is perhaps the best balance of expressiveness and efficiency that has ever been seen in programming languages.
If anything, LISP is better. If you want 3d virtual worlds which events trigger other events on a time scale, it's HELL to do in C. Lisp allows that kind of control, with the inclusion of CPU hits (in respect to C).
4: And modern systems are so messy and complicated that they are more frustrating than rewarding most of the time.
After reading that statement, Why'd they interview him? The whole idea of programming is to reduce or STOP that result. Programmers make it easier on users (well, supposed to)...
Still, I'm not surprised if we went back to that system for supercomputing needs. Provide an OS, interface api and staff... And you either have your data or a nice core dump.
If he is, he's of the intelligent type. It's actually kinda.... fun.
>>>He even thought the article was about cold fusion at the start.
No, the article's web server uses "Cold Fusion" markup for dynamic page creation. Sites that use Cold Fusion servers usually die quickly (like 10X faster than PHP).
>>>With your help he's filled this thread with shit.
I see Slashdot as a brain-dump. In a way, it's a sanity check of your ideas to see how they might be challenged. There's the "Fist Prost" trolls, the GNAA and Goaste, and fake article trolls.
The final variant, me included, is the intelligent troll. We like to spar with words, and find logical fallacies in each others arguments. I prefer to debate this way since it helps me think on my toes, wondering what he's going to say next. Like I said, I'm a troll, but look at how many +4 and +5'es I get. For me, it's just tossing ideas to the winds, seeing where they go...
>>>Do what I've just done, but him on your foe list and set them a negative modifier.
I read at -1 anyways;-) I would have never found Negative Karma NOW's thread if I hadnt.
Socialism with a dictator IS NOT SOCIALISM. It's a dictatorship.
Also, I said "Like Socialism" for a reason. If anybody could fab an object(s), everybody would be roughly equal. There would be no "Super-Power" to do whatever they like.
>>>>The main problem we have with highschool and below, teachers are forced to teach 30-50 kids a class, even a teacher who cares cannot teach 30-50 people with just chalkboard and 10 year old textbooks. You need to use the technology to help teachers do their job, you need to give teachers the tools they demand to teach 30-50 kids instead of trying for the impossible goal of making classes smaller.
I agree with the problem of many students, expessially with earlier grades. However, even with later grades, having too many people in a class is detrimental.
There's no problem with basic textbooks. Math doesnt change, nor does English (much). Foregin languages change some, but not enough to warrant books every year.
>>>>The difference between college and highschool, in college it doesnt matter if a teacher cares, in college it doesnt matter if a teacher is good at teaching, the students are given the tools they need to educate themselves,
From grade 1-12, those years are SUPPOSED to teach kids HOW TO LEARN. College is for those to already know, but wish to master something.
>>>and the teachers are given the tools to give lectures and answer questions from big classes with 50-100 kids. Our colleges are doing a good job, why not apply it to our highschool? Its proven to work at Harvard, MIT, Yale and these other schools.
Yep. Those colleges also create lots of dropouts. Wonder what that'd do to education??
>>>Lets be realistic, people arent going to teach for free. Sure I'd teach but I wont do it for free. Also I need the TOOLS to teach 100 kids, this would require we update the technology, perhaps using smart boards like you see here http://www.smarttech.com/
You dont need fancy stuff to teach, because once you buy the stuff, you're slaves to it. IT becomes what youre teaching, not the actual subject onhand.
>>>Japan is doing this, Europe is doing this, our schools however are wasting their time arguing about how to do things instead of actually just spending money and funding the schools like everyone else.
You can thank the bureaucracy for that.
>>>I went to crappy highschools and good highschools, the job of a teacher is to teach kids to educate themselves, to act more as a guide, or a coach, but without the proper tools a kid cannot even teach themselves. When I went to the terrible school the books were almost 20 years old, we werent allowed to take the books home because the teacher was concerned about us stealing them, the teacher would do nothing but sit and eat donuts and drink coffee, perhaps give the daily homework assignment, and tell us to read chapters in the book and punish the kids who decide not to read it right then in the class.
>>>In the good school everything was different, teachers gave students REAL assignments which required teamwork, I actually had to think, do research, write papers, and the teachers would review my work, comment on it and send it back to me giving me time to revise it and improve it before submitting the final product. This work would go into a portfolio which would be reviewed to see if I'd graduate or not.
Education needs no intervention from large amounts of technology. It wont solve much, and will cause more problems. What matters is the teachers and rules imposed on the teachers. That's what matters about education.
>>>You see, the current school system is so focused on tests, passing tests, or getting good scores on the SATs that kids arent taught skills which help them learn, they are taught to pass a certain test, trained to get a high score on the SAT, and kids get judged more on their attendence and homework assignments than they do on their actual classwork. The structure of the bad schools just sucks, the tools suck, in the good school there were 2 sometimes 3 computers in every classroom, there was a computer lab, there was the internet, and the classes were small.
>>>The concept that the ability to duplicate infinitely physical objects would result in "no jobs and no work" is a fallacy at best.
Too true.
>>>The ability do duplicate these physical objects would result in a massive loss of jobs for those in the manufacturing industry, no doubt. However, there would be a nearly equal if not greater than equal increase (eventually) in the need for knowledge and service workers.
I't'd free up people to do stuff they truly enjoy, instead of only looking at money.
>>>Even if you could create a new computer every time a new technology comes out, you'd still need software developers to write the software, and someone to troubleshoot it when you get the latest outlook virus.
If anything, I doubt that kind of future. In the future, common software will be given freely. The content AND contract jobs will be the money makers. And they still wont be able to control content then either.
>>>In the same sense, we could shift a lot of jobs to industries such as the pharmaceutical industry and try and extend life or at least quality of life for humans.
Same problem: Capitalism does NOT extent to nformation sciences the way it goes to physical objects. The only exemption is tailoring drugs specific to an individual person. Surgery will be also needed.
>>>The economy would need to be restructured, capitalism will probably not be the driving force any more,
That's why I said socialism. There's really no word for a economy(?) like that. Socialism, giving the extra for the benefit of that society, is probably the best guidelines to start by.
To try to explain what my idea about this is, look at BitTorrent or Emule. The more you share, the more you receive. You can turn shaing off, but you'll be given only little bandwidth until you share (but you STILL GET). Also, when you start downloading, you're given the benefit of the doubt, and are given at a massive speed.
>>>but I doubt the suicide rate will surge, for most people with deserving jobs already, there would be no need for drastic changes. The guy who dropped out of high school and now solders connections in the blender plant might be SOL, but that's the price paid for progress. Eventually the guy will find another job, even if its sweeping the floors, flipping burgers, or rotating tires.
There's something everybody can do. If his BASIC needs are provided (under the nearly-unlimited system), he can do what he enjoys. If he wants more, he can contribute.
>>>The fast that so many Americans think universal healthcare and public schools are bad
But look why they are bad. There's funding to these schools, but funding isnt the issue. You dont need fancy-schmancy school building to teach better. The problem is 2 fold in education.
1: MANY teachers dont care/teach 2: The bureaucracy prevents effective teaching through inane policies
Getting rid of teachers and giving jobs to those who love to teach (similar to computer geeks to enjoy to do computer stuff, for free...). That'd cut down on bad teachers. I even had a teacher who told my mom (I was in kindergarten), after she asked the cirrculum, "Like it matters, it's not your ability to change it".
Also, the bureaucracy prevents students from doing their own things they like. I went to public school and I wanted decent programming classes along with network classes (big network in class to use). But NOO! School policy that students cant have any power, even on a closed network. I wanted experience on computers that would be hard to me achieve otherwise. Instead, I was held back by the standard REQ'd classes along with inane teachers who didnt want to be there in the first place.
>>>should be all the proof you need that alot of people in society would sooner commit suicide than live in a world without jobs.
About universal healthcare: in the current system, we waste billions of $$'s on people who have problems. But what it shows, is if there's a handout by government, there'll be more and more hands at every passout. I figured, if we could duplicate items, we would also know what our DNA means. We'd be able to solve health problems before the became an issue.
This type of system doesnt happen fast. But even your argument can be applied to the similar "Horse and Buggey" argument. Making cars is like putting socialism to the buggy makers. They'd kill themselves if we allowed cars to be made by Henry Ford.
>>>>I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Bob Hope was found dead in his California home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
Perhaps the Cut'N'Paster of the known troll got you a -1, but it's true. Bob Hope died at 100. check out MSNBC. It's Front Page article.
The "Age of Plenty" will make (cough) intellectual property king, until we all realise that the resources have to come from somewhere.
Intellectual Property will die out just the same, as once people learn that sharing is the better of the 2. Each item mapped gives inventors more power and leverage to work with, hence more goods. It'll turn this capitalistic country into a pure form of socialism, one where all needs are provided. Or at least, could be capitalistic with a socialism base floor.
Still, fabs would have to be made and sold, and only a large fab could make smaller fabs. You also have the problem with Energy consumption. Fusors may be the only realistic way of capturing large amounts of energy.
There will STILL be an economy, just the balance of power will be radically shifted.
Anybody. However, you have to sign YOUR OWN KEY in order for servers to accept it as being from you. Be aware, that the servers you send it to do NOT have to accept it.
Really, the ideal system is where EVERY message is signed by the system where the email first enters.
The starting system signs it, and other servers recognize it and see it as legit mail. It's passed until it hits the destination.
If there's a grevious problem, the recivers' admin can send a revoke to his local buddies/systems. If the choose to acknologe it, the bans' in effect on those servers.
The best analogy I can give is the way the Zoo works on slashdot. You know who you like, who you hate, but you'd be able to tell people who likes you too, and who hates you. Now, add crypto ala GPG/PGP.
The whole idea is that current mail xfer stinks. If we could have accountability in the system, along with the threat that you mails might be undeliverable du to spammers, we'd have a cleaner system.
Will it prevent anonymity? NO, as long as people who run anony-mail gateways scan for spam (baneysean-sp?, keywords, other spam-filters...).
And response to somebody about how "Horrible it will be", the propigation time would be probably the same as DNS. And nobody really complains about that, do they? Just means if you change your IP addy on the mail server, keep the old one on for a day.
Have a computer certified by another individual and create a public/private key for that computer. Do this step to create a network of ID's for the servers.
Now, have admins "Sign" a certain public text that allows servers to trust other servers.
If Company X is being real lax (eg: promoting spam), write a revoke key and put it on a few OTHER machines. Thien it'll propigate throught the mail-net to disallow all connections from that MAIL server.
Of course, mail servers and clients would have to have different trust relationships ala ssh.
For them mail geeks: would this be feasible? I could see CPU load go rocket...
Re:Kolab and Kontact, I'm confused.
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There's a lot of crufty stuff in the KDE app-base. There's the KDE media player, NOATUN (Not-run , that's what I always think) some ARTS stuff for sound server (like esd, and others couldnt have fit here) and other basic bitmap apps.
They could have made Gimp a KDE program and forget about all other KDE gfx programs. It already can read a crapload of gfx types, so it's just a gtk=>kde3 port away.
Noatun is a joke. I mean, a SERIOUS JOKE. The few things I'm able to run in it (like say, standard MPEG1 streams) either lags to hell, or promptly crashes. I usually go and install XINE, OGLE, and Mplayer for all my video viewing needs.
And about ARTS, other than network transparency (which is depreciated with the new SMB-UNIX extensions which allow you to mount/dev nodes over networks) it's yet another thing that eats up cpu time and does little. Yeah, it provides an archetchure but who wants to use it? It ties your app to kde only. Yuk.
The PIM group of apps seem pretty nice, but dont flow together well. Why did they create their own set of office "things" that dont work with anything else (yeah, I know writing a module is trivial). Why not plug in OO instead? It'd be easier that way.
Yeah, Kruft bothers me, but at least it works (kde3 doesnt crash as much as windows....). Still, kde3 goes down sometimes with a sig 11.
Has anybody tried it yet?
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How well does it do compared to EX-change?
IOW: is it a "Komplete" software product, or the usual 90% GNU solution?
Does anybody care to write a compairison feature and integration wise?
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1: but the graphical interfaces are more responsive on Windows than through an X interface.
Isnt that what we've been saying all this time?
2: Yes, long ago. Multics was an acronym for something like Multiplexed Information and Computing Service, and it was big and complicated because it had many of everything.
Are there still any usable capibility systems out there? My friend found an old PrimeOS box with everything. Yet to get it running, as damn near every port is the same (spitz n sparken if you're wrong).
3: C is perhaps the best balance of expressiveness and efficiency that has ever been seen in programming languages.
If anything, LISP is better. If you want 3d virtual worlds which events trigger other events on a time scale, it's HELL to do in C. Lisp allows that kind of control, with the inclusion of CPU hits (in respect to C).
4: And modern systems are so messy and complicated that they are more frustrating than rewarding most of the time.
After reading that statement, Why'd they interview him? The whole idea of programming is to reduce or STOP that result. Programmers make it easier on users (well, supposed to)...
Red Warrior Needs food badly.
Red Warrior is about to die.
AAHhhhhh!!!
>you hear the sound of a speed-potioned elf racing for your keys
Actually, refreshingly bitter ;-)
Still, I'm not surprised if we went back to that system for supercomputing needs. Provide an OS, interface api and staff... And you either have your data or a nice core dump.
Have Fun
"omputer voting fraud and how you'd think all honest politicians would be"
Hmm... lets think about this. "Honest" (looks up in dictionary). "Politicans"...
Yeah. Our politicians are REAL honest, when they're caught!
It said "140db" cap! Hot damn! If it did that, I'd buy 2 for my car and drive around like a hoodlem.
Mass media and over-saturization has pretty much killed this series. The First game was great, so was the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, s....
Perhaps this'll teach the media that Over-publicising a show/game will effectively kill it.
saddamite> I'll see your 30,000$ Bush Contribution and raise you 2 Towers!!!
Sounds like the UBA (universal business adapter).
sales>"It works with...."
sales>Bla bla bla market market
sales2>"Does it work in Europe?"
Engineer>"Nope, you need an adapter!"
Mass media's doing to Tolken's fine works as they do to everything else that's "popular". They're Over-saturizing his books.
I wouldnt be surprised in 2 years, most people will hate the "Lord Of the Rings" series of books. In a way, It's kind of sad.
>>>Dude I think hes a troll.
.... fun.
;-) I would have never found Negative Karma NOW's thread if I hadnt.
If he is, he's of the intelligent type. It's actually kinda
>>>He even thought the article was about cold fusion at the start.
No, the article's web server uses "Cold Fusion" markup for dynamic page creation. Sites that use Cold Fusion servers usually die quickly (like 10X faster than PHP).
>>>With your help he's filled this thread with shit.
I see Slashdot as a brain-dump. In a way, it's a sanity check of your ideas to see how they might be challenged. There's the "Fist Prost" trolls, the GNAA and Goaste, and fake article trolls.
The final variant, me included, is the intelligent troll. We like to spar with words, and find logical fallacies in each others arguments. I prefer to debate this way since it helps me think on my toes, wondering what he's going to say next. Like I said, I'm a troll, but look at how many +4 and +5'es I get. For me, it's just tossing ideas to the winds, seeing where they go...
>>>Do what I've just done, but him on your foe list and set them a negative modifier.
I read at -1 anyways
This is exactly why I'm against Intellectial Property.
Essentially, if you "know" o fit, the company who owns that "property" now OWNS you. That's mind slavery.
Socialism with a dictator IS NOT SOCIALISM. It's a dictatorship.
Also, I said "Like Socialism" for a reason. If anybody could fab an object(s), everybody would be roughly equal. There would be no "Super-Power" to do whatever they like.
>>>>The main problem we have with highschool and below, teachers are forced to teach 30-50 kids a class, even a teacher who cares cannot teach 30-50 people with just chalkboard and 10 year old textbooks. You need to use the technology to help teachers do their job, you need to give teachers the tools they demand to teach 30-50 kids instead of trying for the impossible goal of making classes smaller.
I agree with the problem of many students, expessially with earlier grades. However, even with later grades, having too many people in a class is detrimental.
There's no problem with basic textbooks. Math doesnt change, nor does English (much). Foregin languages change some, but not enough to warrant books every year.
>>>>The difference between college and highschool, in college it doesnt matter if a teacher cares, in college it doesnt matter if a teacher is good at teaching, the students are given the tools they need to educate themselves,
From grade 1-12, those years are SUPPOSED to teach kids HOW TO LEARN. College is for those to already know, but wish to master something.
>>>and the teachers are given the tools to give lectures and answer questions from big classes with 50-100 kids. Our colleges are doing a good job, why not apply it to our highschool? Its proven to work at Harvard, MIT, Yale and these other schools.
Yep. Those colleges also create lots of dropouts. Wonder what that'd do to education??
>>>Lets be realistic, people arent going to teach for free. Sure I'd teach but I wont do it for free. Also I need the TOOLS to teach 100 kids, this would require we update the technology, perhaps using smart boards like you see here http://www.smarttech.com/
You dont need fancy stuff to teach, because once you buy the stuff, you're slaves to it. IT becomes what youre teaching, not the actual subject onhand.
>>>Japan is doing this, Europe is doing this, our schools however are wasting their time arguing about how to do things instead of actually just spending money and funding the schools like everyone else.
You can thank the bureaucracy for that.
>>>I went to crappy highschools and good highschools, the job of a teacher is to teach kids to educate themselves, to act more as a guide, or a coach, but without the proper tools a kid cannot even teach themselves. When I went to the terrible school the books were almost 20 years old, we werent allowed to take the books home because the teacher was concerned about us stealing them, the teacher would do nothing but sit and eat donuts and drink coffee, perhaps give the daily homework assignment, and tell us to read chapters in the book and punish the kids who decide not to read it right then in the class.
>>>In the good school everything was different, teachers gave students REAL assignments which required teamwork, I actually had to think, do research, write papers, and the teachers would review my work, comment on it and send it back to me giving me time to revise it and improve it before submitting the final product. This work would go into a portfolio which would be reviewed to see if I'd graduate or not.
Education needs no intervention from large amounts of technology. It wont solve much, and will cause more problems. What matters is the teachers and rules imposed on the teachers. That's what matters about education.
>>>You see, the current school system is so focused on tests, passing tests, or getting good scores on the SATs that kids arent taught skills which help them learn, they are taught to pass a certain test, trained to get a high score on the SAT, and kids get judged more on their attendence and homework assignments than they do on their actual classwork. The structure of the bad schools just sucks, the tools suck, in the good school there were 2 sometimes 3 computers in every classroom, there was a computer lab, there was the internet, and the classes were small.
The tests
>>>The concept that the ability to duplicate infinitely physical objects would result in "no jobs and no work" is a fallacy at best.
Too true.
>>>The ability do duplicate these physical objects would result in a massive loss of jobs for those in the manufacturing industry, no doubt. However, there would be a nearly equal if not greater than equal increase (eventually) in the need for knowledge and service workers.
I't'd free up people to do stuff they truly enjoy, instead of only looking at money.
>>>Even if you could create a new computer every time a new technology comes out, you'd still need software developers to write the software, and someone to troubleshoot it when you get the latest outlook virus.
If anything, I doubt that kind of future. In the future, common software will be given freely. The content AND contract jobs will be the money makers. And they still wont be able to control content then either.
>>>In the same sense, we could shift a lot of jobs to industries such as the pharmaceutical industry and try and extend life or at least quality of life for humans.
Same problem: Capitalism does NOT extent to nformation sciences the way it goes to physical objects. The only exemption is tailoring drugs specific to an individual person. Surgery will be also needed.
>>>The economy would need to be restructured, capitalism will probably not be the driving force any more,
That's why I said socialism. There's really no word for a economy(?) like that. Socialism, giving the extra for the benefit of that society, is probably the best guidelines to start by.
To try to explain what my idea about this is, look at BitTorrent or Emule. The more you share, the more you receive. You can turn shaing off, but you'll be given only little bandwidth until you share (but you STILL GET). Also, when you start downloading, you're given the benefit of the doubt, and are given at a massive speed.
>>>but I doubt the suicide rate will surge, for most people with deserving jobs already, there would be no need for drastic changes. The guy who dropped out of high school and now solders connections in the blender plant might be SOL, but that's the price paid for progress. Eventually the guy will find another job, even if its sweeping the floors, flipping burgers, or rotating tires.
There's something everybody can do. If his BASIC needs are provided (under the nearly-unlimited system), he can do what he enjoys. If he wants more, he can contribute.
>>>The fast that so many Americans think universal healthcare and public schools are bad
But look why they are bad. There's funding to these schools, but funding isnt the issue. You dont need fancy-schmancy school building to teach better. The problem is 2 fold in education.
1: MANY teachers dont care/teach
2: The bureaucracy prevents effective teaching through inane policies
Getting rid of teachers and giving jobs to those who love to teach (similar to computer geeks to enjoy to do computer stuff, for free...). That'd cut down on bad teachers. I even had a teacher who told my mom (I was in kindergarten), after she asked the cirrculum, "Like it matters, it's not your ability to change it".
Also, the bureaucracy prevents students from doing their own things they like. I went to public school and I wanted decent programming classes along with network classes (big network in class to use). But NOO! School policy that students cant have any power, even on a closed network. I wanted experience on computers that would be hard to me achieve otherwise. Instead, I was held back by the standard REQ'd classes along with inane teachers who didnt want to be there in the first place.
>>>should be all the proof you need that alot of people in society would sooner commit suicide than live in a world without jobs.
About universal healthcare: in the current system, we waste billions of $$'s on people who have problems. But what it shows, is if there's a handout by government, there'll be more and more hands at every passout. I figured, if we could duplicate items, we would also know what our DNA means. We'd be able to solve health problems before the became an issue.
This type of system doesnt happen fast. But even your argument can be applied to the similar "Horse and Buggey" argument. Making cars is like putting socialism to the buggy makers. They'd kill themselves if we allowed cars to be made by Henry Ford.
You demean every one of my points with "Suicide for Socialism", yet you VOUCH for A KNOWN SOCIALIST.
Dean's policies is a massive welfare system, along with aboloishing HMO's and other private mecial systems.
You're trying to push us into socialism WITHOUT the actual "Plenty" (in which my theorized system, is limitless).
Try not sounding HIPOCRITICAL next time.
>>>>I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Bob Hope was found dead in his California home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
Perhaps the Cut'N'Paster of the known troll got you a -1, but it's true. Bob Hope died at 100. check out MSNBC. It's Front Page article.
The "Age of Plenty" will make (cough) intellectual property king, until we all realise that the resources have to come from somewhere.
Intellectual Property will die out just the same, as once people learn that sharing is the better of the 2. Each item mapped gives inventors more power and leverage to work with, hence more goods. It'll turn this capitalistic country into a pure form of socialism, one where all needs are provided. Or at least, could be capitalistic with a socialism base floor.
Still, fabs would have to be made and sold, and only a large fab could make smaller fabs. You also have the problem with Energy consumption. Fusors may be the only realistic way of capturing large amounts of energy.
There will STILL be an economy, just the balance of power will be radically shifted.
That's what the web stats always said BEFORE slashdot went corporate.
It's quite embarassing that ONLY 5% of your user base, ON A PRO-LINUX SITE, uses Linux.
What it shows is, that Slashdot is a site where loosers TALK about Linux, not actually use it.
As one last note, the 5% statistic is the Worldwide average of Linux users is.
I'd also throw in a "linux revoke of copyright". OOps. Now they cant download or use Linux, as it violates COPYRIGHT.
Anybody. However, you have to sign YOUR OWN KEY in order for servers to accept it as being from you. Be aware, that the servers you send it to do NOT have to accept it.
Really, the ideal system is where EVERY message is signed by the system where the email first enters.
The starting system signs it, and other servers recognize it and see it as legit mail. It's passed until it hits the destination.
If there's a grevious problem, the recivers' admin can send a revoke to his local buddies/systems. If the choose to acknologe it, the bans' in effect on those servers.
The best analogy I can give is the way the Zoo works on slashdot. You know who you like, who you hate, but you'd be able to tell people who likes you too, and who hates you. Now, add crypto ala GPG/PGP.
The whole idea is that current mail xfer stinks. If we could have accountability in the system, along with the threat that you mails might be undeliverable du to spammers, we'd have a cleaner system.
Will it prevent anonymity? NO, as long as people who run anony-mail gateways scan for spam (baneysean-sp?, keywords, other spam-filters...).
And response to somebody about how "Horrible it will be", the propigation time would be probably the same as DNS. And nobody really complains about that, do they? Just means if you change your IP addy on the mail server, keep the old one on for a day.
I though of this when it comes to SPAM:
Have a computer certified by another individual and create a public/private key for that computer. Do this step to create a network of ID's for the servers.
Now, have admins "Sign" a certain public text that allows servers to trust other servers.
If Company X is being real lax (eg: promoting spam), write a revoke key and put it on a few OTHER machines. Thien it'll propigate throught the mail-net to disallow all connections from that MAIL server.
Of course, mail servers and clients would have to have different trust relationships ala ssh.
For them mail geeks: would this be feasible? I could see CPU load go rocket...
There's a lot of crufty stuff in the KDE app-base. There's the KDE media player, NOATUN (Not-run , that's what I always think) some ARTS stuff for sound server (like esd, and others couldnt have fit here) and other basic bitmap apps.
/dev nodes over networks) it's yet another thing that eats up cpu time and does little. Yeah, it provides an archetchure but who wants to use it? It ties your app to kde only. Yuk.
They could have made Gimp a KDE program and forget about all other KDE gfx programs. It already can read a crapload of gfx types, so it's just a gtk=>kde3 port away.
Noatun is a joke. I mean, a SERIOUS JOKE. The few things I'm able to run in it (like say, standard MPEG1 streams) either lags to hell, or promptly crashes. I usually go and install XINE, OGLE, and Mplayer for all my video viewing needs.
And about ARTS, other than network transparency (which is depreciated with the new SMB-UNIX extensions which allow you to mount
The PIM group of apps seem pretty nice, but dont flow together well. Why did they create their own set of office "things" that dont work with anything else (yeah, I know writing a module is trivial). Why not plug in OO instead? It'd be easier that way.
Yeah, Kruft bothers me, but at least it works (kde3 doesnt crash as much as windows....). Still, kde3 goes down sometimes with a sig 11.
How well does it do compared to EX-change?
IOW: is it a "Komplete" software product, or the usual 90% GNU solution?
Does anybody care to write a compairison feature and integration wise?