Can a universal turing machine limitedly investigate another universal turing machine and detect halts and infinite loops? I can.
We can look at gunk like 10 Print "Hello" 20 goto 10
Yeah, that's a loop. But we can also look at graphs of y = sin(x) and understand why it repeats. I can also detect patterns and iterations that most likely go for infinity, else find a hole where the assumption falls apart. Last I checked, the computer cannot do that. Not yet, at least.
I thought it was creative and funny at the same time... However it wasnt as funny as my "Reply To This" "Parent" links I did.. They changed those buttons after trick-positing to michael.
Why is everything in Windows managed by tools that do not come with the default installation?
I can perfectly manage a Linux installation without 3rd party or "optional" tools found on some website. Windows requires X tools that provide basic functionality on their site, and not default on the CD.
My thinking was along the lines of allowing a vehicle be used in conjunction of a crime. If one willingly knew that it was going to be used in a crime, the vehicle owner would also be at fault. The same goes for guns. In fact, if one does not report a gun theft, one can be charged for crimes related to that specific gun, regardless what YOU did.
Is it really that far a stretch to think along those lines of "connection holder behing held responsible", considering the fines related to copyright infringement are greater than involuntary manslaughter?
That's a great question: How many mp3's is equal to the fine on involuntary manslaughter?
---There is no technological defense against PEBKAC.
You are absolutely wrong. If a system is designed properly, or set up properly, the user cannot wreak havoc on a system or the network.
In windows, there are many ways to do X behavior that changes the system. Therefore, Windows is hard to secure properly. It is possible, only by globally applying over-secure regedits that disable even basic functionality. Instead, I propose Linux as a good starting point.
PEBKAC, at least in the business setting can be effectively eliminated by the use of simply being unable to even execute the programs. Games? Not on the HD. Web browser? If you need it, you'll be in the webbrowser group. Some document program? does your job require documents, if it does, you'll have that. Are you a developer for 3d stuff? If so, you get DRI rights. If not, no permission. Can Windows restrict access to the 3d device?
My question is why do you grant rights to users when they do not justify those rights? We need to provide granular access so that the user is limited in what they do and act only in prescribed ways.
As for that, the only way users can then screw things up is if they do not back up their user files, which you should already have thought of. A morning rsync of the/home (which should be mounted from the server) should take care of basic backup issues. Then it turns to your problem of access to the backups (which could be automated also). It really is a game of admin vs user, and you must outsmart stupidity. You do that by providing 1 way as the only way.
---Something about "internet license"
meh. You do that by providing a punishment via the lines of willful negligence. If one does not provide basic security to prevent infection/takeover or notices and takes no heed, one is guilty and owes a fine to the party harmed. In the course of a botnet, that would be the proportion of bandwidth they used (based upon the actions of the the takeover tool).
Simply put: use the laws we already have now, and not some new, easily to corrupt, new license.
I'd just laugh if they tried to sue me for 100,000$ !!! I'd just go shucks, and go on welfare or whatever they call it. Or work for a non-profit. And, so would most people. However, many many people will pay 3000-5000$ to make a problem go away.
I'd ask them for a unlimited license for 5000$ and immunity from all future prosecution and civil judgments capped at 1$ per TB. I'd laugh just as hard if/when they laugh.
Mr Beckerman, I mean this in the most sincere way I can..
According to Civil law (what I understand, IANAL) one can be in err if one is 51% wrong, and can be judged as such. If the RIAA was suing a family for illegal uploading, could it not be seen that regardless who did it that the owner of the connection is at fault for either condoning it, or allowing it to happen via not setting basic security? Isn't one who buys the connection responsible for their endpoint?
What matters in America, or should matter, is freedom. What we have here is not freedom, nor a close resemblance of it. Our current prison state shows that we are in touch from more of a Stalin-like or Mussolini state. As for your points..
1. Amarica is far from the best in anything. We just happened to be early on a banking center (yeah, we were Switzerland of the world earlier). We did that in by forcefully taking Iran's money during 76-80. That trust will likely never be seen again in the future of the USA. We also fare badly on health, where we are ~38. Canada's not much better, them being ~35. We just happened to have a large influence by strong dealings and taking property wherever we could. We also committed a mass genocide of our indigenous culture.
2.Communism has one real failure, and it shares the same with capitalism: failure to provide freedom to the individual. Communism is concerned with counting and monitoring all resources in and out and trying to figure out how to account for product. Capitalism is only intent on money migrating to those with large sums of money already. Bot do not account for the small man and those with little power. However, in terms of resource management, capitalism seems to be a better fit, for now.
The only real problem is that we cannot yet create our own goods on our desktop. Once our designs are actual 3d implementations, we can instead provide sharing patterns, in the same way we share our Free software. In that terms, it will be a true communism, without the human rights violations that seem to go with every current implementation thus far. Those that are intent on paying for stuff can do so (also contractual jobs) , but payment would be mainly done for materials and energy.
Instead, we rid ourselves of all domain names that do not state country code (.com,.net,.gov,...). Then, each country sets up a national Pubkey Archive and authenticates via their country key. Each country sets their own up, so they are in charge, not some arbitrary country "somewhere else".
That idea also easily allows enterprising "hackers" and other types to have their own auth server and provide their own domain setup. All you need do is to aim your domain resolver at the domain master and you can resolve them now. It's just like how ToR provides lookup of.onion
My GF got me an Ipod, nice gift considering it was a 60GB. However, I had a rather nasty problem. When I used Itunes on my server (about 120k songs) it died a rather nasty molass-ey death. It took Windows down to 1MHz speed and took down the whole machine. Yuck.
I eventually got rid of Windows (well, not quite, I emulate a X86 environ via VBox) and installed Ubuntu on my Thinkpad T61 with all intel hw. After that, everything on Linux just works thanks to Thinkwiki. Well... I had my ipod stored away cause Windows farted at it. Instead, I loaded up Amarok and lo and behold! The program scanned my whole library in one (very long) fell swoop. After it was done, I queued up discographies of musicians whom I liked and it just works.
Well, considering my iPod was a 5th gen video, I also installed Rockbox on it. Damn, now THAT is some serious music playing software, and open to boot.
Also, aside from that, a friend had a bunch of music on a Zen and couldnt pull it from the player (she had a mac). I ended up extracting every song perfect using Amarok. Turns out, Amarok doesnt support the stupid "Dont get songs from MTP devices" crap that windows follows.
Even worse if one were to create a maze with maybe 10-20 closed loop sections that are partially adjacent. Unless you happened to hit the right exterior wall, you go in circles.
One that's always worried me was software contract and licensure liabilities.
Many companies that use shrink-wrap EULAs and other negotiated licenses have rather onerous requirements. We can look at the guitar string maker as to what a pissed off ex-employee can do in terms of damage by ratting out "unauthorized" and otherwise possibly non-compliant software.
Most small businesses would go bankrupt if hit even with one of them.
And you think you're part of the mystical-god ship that only rescues 144,000 on the day of rapture? meh. Back again we are to religious babble that means nothing and does nothing. Oh well, if it helps.
Just stay off my doorstep lest you get a shotgun welcome. We dont like Jehova's Witnesses in our parts.
Yeah, we also have the rush to the stores the day after Christmas too. We also have the "Christmas Season" rush that happens on the day after Thanksgiving. Many retailers make note that is the beginning of the "Christmas Season".
Same phenomenon too of crazy lines, rude people and rock bottom sales.
Yeah, I thought about trying to get a hold of one, but they were 1GHz, 256MB ram, and 1 minute battery life (heh well, more like 1 hour). And the stores that sold them had perhaps 2-4 at best... When there's a hundred people in line waiting for opening, good luck getting one.
Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving (last Thursday in November) in which darn near every business has crazy rock-bottom deals. I've seen 200$ laptops before netbooks, free computer equipment, and god knows what other stuff.
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Can a universal turing machine limitedly investigate another universal turing machine and detect halts and infinite loops? I can.
We can look at gunk like
10 Print "Hello"
20 goto 10
Yeah, that's a loop. But we can also look at graphs of y = sin(x) and understand why it repeats. I can also detect patterns and iterations that most likely go for infinity, else find a hole where the assumption falls apart. Last I checked, the computer cannot do that. Not yet, at least.
And you foed me for that?
I thought it was creative and funny at the same time... However it wasnt as funny as my "Reply To This" "Parent" links I did.. They changed those buttons after trick-positing to michael.
Why is everything in Windows managed by tools that do not come with the default installation?
I can perfectly manage a Linux installation without 3rd party or "optional" tools found on some website. Windows requires X tools that provide basic functionality on their site, and not default on the CD.
I hate that.
My thinking was along the lines of allowing a vehicle be used in conjunction of a crime. If one willingly knew that it was going to be used in a crime, the vehicle owner would also be at fault. The same goes for guns. In fact, if one does not report a gun theft, one can be charged for crimes related to that specific gun, regardless what YOU did.
Is it really that far a stretch to think along those lines of "connection holder behing held responsible", considering the fines related to copyright infringement are greater than involuntary manslaughter?
That's a great question: How many mp3's is equal to the fine on involuntary manslaughter?
---There is no technological defense against PEBKAC.
You are absolutely wrong. If a system is designed properly, or set up properly, the user cannot wreak havoc on a system or the network.
In windows, there are many ways to do X behavior that changes the system. Therefore, Windows is hard to secure properly. It is possible, only by globally applying over-secure regedits that disable even basic functionality. Instead, I propose Linux as a good starting point.
PEBKAC, at least in the business setting can be effectively eliminated by the use of simply being unable to even execute the programs.
Games? Not on the HD.
Web browser? If you need it, you'll be in the webbrowser group.
Some document program? does your job require documents, if it does, you'll have that.
Are you a developer for 3d stuff? If so, you get DRI rights. If not, no permission. Can Windows restrict access to the 3d device?
My question is why do you grant rights to users when they do not justify those rights? We need to provide granular access so that the user is limited in what they do and act only in prescribed ways.
As for that, the only way users can then screw things up is if they do not back up their user files, which you should already have thought of. A morning rsync of the /home (which should be mounted from the server) should take care of basic backup issues. Then it turns to your problem of access to the backups (which could be automated also). It really is a game of admin vs user, and you must outsmart stupidity. You do that by providing 1 way as the only way.
---Something about "internet license"
meh. You do that by providing a punishment via the lines of willful negligence. If one does not provide basic security to prevent infection/takeover or notices and takes no heed, one is guilty and owes a fine to the party harmed. In the course of a botnet, that would be the proportion of bandwidth they used (based upon the actions of the the takeover tool).
Simply put: use the laws we already have now, and not some new, easily to corrupt, new license.
It needs to be said:
In linux, one can remove exec permissions from a whole device via the noexec switch in /etc/fstab .
As said by other posters, where's the test so we can take it? Looks like it's here.
I'd just laugh if they tried to sue me for 100,000$ !!! I'd just go shucks, and go on welfare or whatever they call it. Or work for a non-profit. And, so would most people. However, many many people will pay 3000-5000$ to make a problem go away.
I'd ask them for a unlimited license for 5000$ and immunity from all future prosecution and civil judgments capped at 1$ per TB. I'd laugh just as hard if/when they laugh.
Mr Beckerman, I mean this in the most sincere way I can..
According to Civil law (what I understand, IANAL) one can be in err if one is 51% wrong, and can be judged as such. If the RIAA was suing a family for illegal uploading, could it not be seen that regardless who did it that the owner of the connection is at fault for either condoning it, or allowing it to happen via not setting basic security? Isn't one who buys the connection responsible for their endpoint?
Would the court entertain this idea?
What matters in America, or should matter, is freedom. What we have here is not freedom, nor a close resemblance of it. Our current prison state shows that we are in touch from more of a Stalin-like or Mussolini state. As for your points..
1. Amarica is far from the best in anything. We just happened to be early on a banking center (yeah, we were Switzerland of the world earlier). We did that in by forcefully taking Iran's money during 76-80. That trust will likely never be seen again in the future of the USA. We also fare badly on health, where we are ~38. Canada's not much better, them being ~35. We just happened to have a large influence by strong dealings and taking property wherever we could. We also committed a mass genocide of our indigenous culture.
2.Communism has one real failure, and it shares the same with capitalism: failure to provide freedom to the individual. Communism is concerned with counting and monitoring all resources in and out and trying to figure out how to account for product. Capitalism is only intent on money migrating to those with large sums of money already. Bot do not account for the small man and those with little power. However, in terms of resource management, capitalism seems to be a better fit, for now.
The only real problem is that we cannot yet create our own goods on our desktop. Once our designs are actual 3d implementations, we can instead provide sharing patterns, in the same way we share our Free software. In that terms, it will be a true communism, without the human rights violations that seem to go with every current implementation thus far. Those that are intent on paying for stuff can do so (also contractual jobs) , but payment would be mainly done for materials and energy.
Who said YOU have to trust anybody?
Instead, we rid ourselves of all domain names that do not state country code (.com, .net, .gov, ...). Then, each country sets up a national Pubkey Archive and authenticates via their country key. Each country sets their own up, so they are in charge, not some arbitrary country "somewhere else".
That idea also easily allows enterprising "hackers" and other types to have their own auth server and provide their own domain setup. All you need do is to aim your domain resolver at the domain master and you can resolve them now. It's just like how ToR provides lookup of .onion
Actually, I remember it being on SGI's around 92 and SunOS in 94 I believe.
And after I checked Wikipedia, the final draft was in '92.
So .. more than a decade. Try 17 years.
If you are on Linux, go try out Amarok.
My GF got me an Ipod, nice gift considering it was a 60GB. However, I had a rather nasty problem. When I used Itunes on my server (about 120k songs) it died a rather nasty molass-ey death. It took Windows down to 1MHz speed and took down the whole machine. Yuck.
I eventually got rid of Windows (well, not quite, I emulate a X86 environ via VBox) and installed Ubuntu on my Thinkpad T61 with all intel hw. After that, everything on Linux just works thanks to Thinkwiki. Well... I had my ipod stored away cause Windows farted at it. Instead, I loaded up Amarok and lo and behold! The program scanned my whole library in one (very long) fell swoop. After it was done, I queued up discographies of musicians whom I liked and it just works.
Well, considering my iPod was a 5th gen video, I also installed Rockbox on it. Damn, now THAT is some serious music playing software, and open to boot.
Also, aside from that, a friend had a bunch of music on a Zen and couldnt pull it from the player (she had a mac). I ended up extracting every song perfect using Amarok. Turns out, Amarok doesnt support the stupid "Dont get songs from MTP devices" crap that windows follows.
Comparing the averages, Neanderthals had about 100 cc more brain matter than we regular humans do.
Trism is done by the same guy who translated and did romhacking for the NES and SNES.
God ol Neo Demiforce still at it, after all these years.
Even worse if one were to create a maze with maybe 10-20 closed loop sections that are partially adjacent. Unless you happened to hit the right exterior wall, you go in circles.
"You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike...what do you do?"
Get ate by the Grue.
One that's always worried me was software contract and licensure liabilities.
Many companies that use shrink-wrap EULAs and other negotiated licenses have rather onerous requirements. We can look at the guitar string maker as to what a pissed off ex-employee can do in terms of damage by ratting out "unauthorized" and otherwise possibly non-compliant software.
Most small businesses would go bankrupt if hit even with one of them.
About porn and vulgarity laws...
"Ill know it when I see it."
And you think you're part of the mystical-god ship that only rescues 144,000 on the day of rapture? meh. Back again we are to religious babble that means nothing and does nothing. Oh well, if it helps.
Just stay off my doorstep lest you get a shotgun welcome. We dont like Jehova's Witnesses in our parts.
Yeah, we also have the rush to the stores the day after Christmas too. We also have the "Christmas Season" rush that happens on the day after Thanksgiving. Many retailers make note that is the beginning of the "Christmas Season".
Same phenomenon too of crazy lines, rude people and rock bottom sales.
Thanks for actually noticing ^_^
Yeah, I thought about trying to get a hold of one, but they were 1GHz, 256MB ram, and 1 minute battery life (heh well, more like 1 hour). And the stores that sold them had perhaps 2-4 at best... When there's a hundred people in line waiting for opening, good luck getting one.
Is there a similar day to our Black Friday?
Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving (last Thursday in November) in which darn near every business has crazy rock-bottom deals. I've seen 200$ laptops before netbooks, free computer equipment, and god knows what other stuff.
Go read up about the Athenian idea of education.
Those forced to "study" are not free by any means. And considering the "success" of American education, we're doing something wrong.
My affect was effected by the the affect of discontinuing progress on Firefox 2.
egads.