But they'll simply haul the person in who's using the masquerader's address and charge them as an accomplice to theft.
Copyright violation is not theft.
What's worse is that the punishment for actual theft of a DVD (maybe $50 or 3 hours community service) would be way less than the punishment for copyright violation (years in prison and 10k$'s fine). Because illegal filetraders are soooo dangerous to society, and actual thieves are not.
So why did Sun drop the phrase "write once, run anywhere"? (pun intended)
I've seen too many horror scenarios with developers tinkering for weeks getting a java application to work, only to find out that it runs out of the box on another platform..
IMO, People who disagree with this usually haven't tried much platform porting with Java.
windows users vs non-windows users ~= windows bots vs non-windows bots.
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it's Darn Hard to write innovative software without a company to back you up.
Surely not. Maybe it's hard to write industrial strength software without a company. But innovative, no.
For instance. Netscape. Apache. Sendmail. Bittorrent. DVDShrink. As I see it, lots of innovative programs are written by hobbyists or university students, or by some organization for non-profit, and then hijacked by some company that covers it self in patents.
Many of the large transportation, communication, and power systems that we take for granted today were not invented by industrial research scientists working for large corporations, but by independent inventors like the Wright brothers, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Graham Bell, Elmer Sperry, and Lee de Forest.
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No way: this reasoning leads to the conclusion that innovation is only motivated by money, and open source is a way to get the value to zero.
And i'm darned sure it isn't: the world's greatest inventors and artists usually didn't get very rich.
It's the lawyers and salesmen who make the big bucks, and it's especially them who are cut out of the loop in the OSS business model.
I expected some funky game involving lemon juice and pie..
Now I know as well.
This is even more gross than goatse, parrot or tubgirl! As a matter in fact I'm taking the rest of the day off, avoiding elderly people, to make sure my mind can recover.
Fellow/.ers, please take my advise and do NOT google for it.
I won't be able to get the image I just googled out of my memory next time someone mentions a lemon.. even though I don't really understand the 'lemon' part
I compared the source code, and except for the copyright banners, they just did a global search-and-replace to change phpAds to AdStats.. pretty lame imo.
But honestly, at this point I'm inclined to just start pirating movies in bulk without even ever watching a single one of them, just for the purpose of distributing them to others
Couldn't agree more, your little rant has inspired me. Tonight I will start Kazaa, eMule, WinMX, BitTorrent and DirectConnect simultaneously and share all my drives. While I'm at it, I might as well upload my hard drive to usenet. Copyright to the people!! Woohoo!
I looked up the word 'shenanegans' but couldn't find it.. did you mean shenanigans?
(I had never before heard the word) Shenanigans
The name of a game played 24/7/365 by people who know of its existence. The game is played by first saying "Shenanigans", then, the person who said it is allowed to hit or otherwise hurt anyone within earshot of them at the time that they said it. The main target tends to be the groin on males and the chest on females. People who are within earshot when "Shenanigans" is said must say the word "Mulligan" as soon as they hear it to prevent being a target. If someone is hit either before or while you are saying the word "Shenanigans" or after they have said "Mulligan", you are considered to have cheated and they get a free hit on you. Note that saying "Shenanigans" lasts indefinately until each person within earshot has said "Mulligan" Bob: "SHENANIGANS!" *smacks Tom in the groin*
or
Bob: "SHENANIGANS!" Tom: "MULLIGAN!" *Bob hits Tom in the groin* Tom: oooh, that's a free hit! *smacks Bob in the groin without penalty.*
Eh, what about prior art? I altready know tons of methods to make someone see, hear, smell or feel something... so patenting the same process but with a non-existing implementation seems very odd at the least.
>.NET is also much less mature (as in 5 years behind) than Java at this point,
Hm, well its safe to say then, that you'd better use a serial dialup to the internet than a 100 mbit connection, since the serial dialup is much older and therefore much more mature!
Have you ever thought about the concept 'learn from other people's accomplishments and mistakes, then improve upon that' ?
Well Microsoft is free to couple their word processor with their media player, I guess. Or does the verdict 'remove media player from windows' mean 'remove media player from all your applications'?
I for one welcome our new neocommunist eurocrat thought-police overlords
So if I have 600 pounds of nitroglycerin (IE) in my home, and it explodes due to the deliberate misuse of an automatic nailgun (Sun JVM), the resulting devastation is the fault of the mailman (Firefox) who delivered the nailgun?
Wait a minute. Firefox isn't the mailman, its the operator, Java is the weapon and IE is the passive victim. There's no mailman involved except for the time when the JVM was installed.
Your reasoning is similar to argueing that a bullet kills a man instead of the one who pulls the trigger.
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But they'll simply haul the person in who's using the masquerader's address and charge them as an accomplice to theft.
Copyright violation is not theft.
What's worse is that the punishment for actual theft of a DVD (maybe $50 or 3 hours community service) would be way less than the punishment for copyright violation (years in prison and 10k$'s fine). Because illegal filetraders are soooo dangerous to society, and actual thieves are not.
Java DOES solve that problem
So why did Sun drop the phrase "write once, run anywhere"? (pun intended)
I've seen too many horror scenarios with developers tinkering for weeks getting a java application to work, only to find out that it runs out of the box on another platform..
IMO, People who disagree with this usually haven't tried much platform porting with Java.
doh, i think its safe to assume that
windows users vs non-windows users ~= windows bots vs non-windows bots.
it's Darn Hard to write innovative software without a company to back you up.
Surely not. Maybe it's hard to write industrial strength software without a company. But innovative, no.
For instance. Netscape. Apache. Sendmail. Bittorrent. DVDShrink. As I see it, lots of innovative programs are written by hobbyists or university students, or by some organization for non-profit, and then hijacked by some company that covers it self in patents.
Many of the large transportation, communication, and power systems that we take for granted today were not invented by industrial research scientists working for large corporations, but by independent inventors like the Wright brothers, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Graham Bell, Elmer Sperry, and Lee de Forest.
No way: this reasoning leads to the conclusion that innovation is only motivated by money, and open source is a way to get the value to zero.
And i'm darned sure it isn't: the world's greatest inventors and artists usually didn't get very rich.
It's the lawyers and salesmen who make the big bucks, and it's especially them who are cut out of the loop in the OSS business model.
Lol, check the mainsoft homepage ...
/index.aspx
/index.aspx
HTTP Status 404 -
type Status report
message
description The requested resource (/index.aspx) is not available.
Apache Tomcat/5.0.28
Wohoo , if they'd finally port boehm's gc to openBSD I'd have best of all worlds!
I too was innocent on the subject of lemon party.
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/.ers, please take my advise and do NOT google for it.
.. even though I don't really understand the 'lemon' part
I expected some funky game involving lemon juice and pie
Now I know as well.
This is even more gross than goatse, parrot or tubgirl! As a matter in fact I'm taking the rest of the day off, avoiding elderly people, to make sure my mind can recover.
Fellow
I won't be able to get the image I just googled out of my memory next time someone mentions a lemon
I compared the source code, and except for the copyright banners, they just did a global search-and-replace to change phpAds to AdStats.. pretty lame imo.
> but don't be the jackass who argues that, "there was never any random dude named Jesus 2000 years ago." That just makes us atheists.
heh. Even though I *am* a deeply convinced atheist I must agree..
Similarly, over 90% of drug deaths in the Netherlands are foreign tourists. Making stuff 'generally available' makes it boring too, so I fully agree.
and I'll be ready waiting for them at the beach to defend my country! Too bad guns are outlawed.
Skype is very open: you can just send it text based commands. They even have a developer zone, so it looks like the parent was just trolling.
The voice protocol is provided by GIPS, they are quite open too about how their codec works with dynamic buffering.
But honestly, at this point I'm inclined to just start pirating movies in bulk without even ever watching a single one of them, just for the purpose of distributing them to others
Couldn't agree more, your little rant has inspired me. Tonight I will start Kazaa, eMule, WinMX, BitTorrent and DirectConnect simultaneously and share all my drives. While I'm at it, I might as well upload my hard drive to usenet. Copyright to the people!! Woohoo!
Do a google for iannis xenakis..
That would probably be speechless
I looked up the word 'shenanegans' but couldn't find it .. did you mean shenanigans ?
(I had never before heard the word)
Shenanigans
The name of a game played 24/7/365 by people who know of its existence. The game is played by first saying "Shenanigans", then, the person who said it is allowed to hit or otherwise hurt anyone within earshot of them at the time that they said it. The main target tends to be the groin on males and the chest on females. People who are within earshot when "Shenanigans" is said must say the word "Mulligan" as soon as they hear it to prevent being a target. If someone is hit either before or while you are saying the word "Shenanigans" or after they have said "Mulligan", you are considered to have cheated and they get a free hit on you. Note that saying "Shenanigans" lasts indefinately until each person within earshot has said "Mulligan"
Bob: "SHENANIGANS!" *smacks Tom in the groin*
or
Bob: "SHENANIGANS!"
Tom: "MULLIGAN!"
*Bob hits Tom in the groin*
Tom: oooh, that's a free hit! *smacks Bob in the groin without penalty.*
"Officer Barbrady, I call shenanigans!"
Eh, what about prior art? I altready know tons of methods to make someone see, hear, smell or feel something... so patenting the same process but with a non-existing implementation seems very odd at the least.
>.NET is also much less mature (as in 5 years behind) than Java at this point,
Hm, well its safe to say then, that you'd better use a serial dialup to the internet than a 100 mbit connection, since the serial dialup is much older and therefore much more mature!
Have you ever thought about the concept 'learn from other people's accomplishments and mistakes, then improve upon that' ?
Well Microsoft is free to couple their word processor with their media player, I guess. Or does the verdict 'remove media player from windows' mean 'remove media player from all your applications'?
I for one welcome our new neocommunist eurocrat thought-police overlords
Shouldn't the Scrabble patent have expired by now? Must exist at least 40 years.
So if I have 600 pounds of nitroglycerin (IE) in my home, and it explodes due to the deliberate misuse of an automatic nailgun (Sun JVM), the resulting devastation is the fault of the mailman (Firefox) who delivered the nailgun?
Wait a minute. Firefox isn't the mailman, its the operator, Java is the weapon and IE is the passive victim. There's no mailman involved except for the time when the JVM was installed.
Your reasoning is similar to argueing that a bullet kills a man instead of the one who pulls the trigger.
Actually, the title of tfa should be "Firefox vulnerability could provide access to IE". The problem is Firefox or Java, not IE.
He didn't violate Australian law, he violated US law. He does have people in the US acting on his behalf to distribute his 'warez'.
Well, he's NOR a US citizen, and he's NOT *in* the US, so US law obviously does NOT apply.
If the US Government has a problem with this individual they can complain with the Australian police and see if they are willing to pursue.
So if I kick an american tourist in the @$$, I could be extradited to the US? Oh come on