The author of the "article" doesn't seem to get "it" with regards to the platform.
Firstly, the documentation isn't fantastic, I agree, it's a relatively straight-forward REST api, and wouldn't you know it, the community of developers has been filling in the documentation gaps
As for instability, it's been there for the most part, you have to understand that Facebook might lack of the 100% reliability you may think your own code has. Facebook developers aren't perfect, nor is it unusual for things to break when near 25 million active users a day pound on it (at the very least, tiny bugs, image caching collisions i'm looking at you, become big bugs. As a side note, that has to have been the most famous end-table on the planet before they fixed that bug).
Finally, I've seen the "outcries over its application approval process" and those are silly as well. A very tiny percent of users actually install the application from the directory. My applications have blown up because of making use of the viral tools provided by the platform, invites, news feed postings, etc. Applications like X-Me exploded to well over 100k users before it was even listed (congrats chips), the same went for Graffiti
No system, especially a third-party system you rely on as a developer is ever perfect, but it's barely been a month since the Facebook Platform, so crying foul is extremely premature. If your only concern is that there's no one regulating the utility, then you should go ask some of those Windows developers how much fun the Longhorn-Vista moving target of a platform has been. It's their API, their platform, their social network, they get to choose what goes on with their "utility."
I'm sure i'll be marked as a troll, but this just reads like the same gripes at the bottom of the barrel in the FB Developers discussion board for some time now.
Disclaimer: I was one of the F8 attendees, and have been developing for the platform for almost 2 months now
It's BarCamp you silly goose. I would highly recommend organizing BarCampChicago similar to how we organized BarCampAustin 2 this past March. I mc'd most of the day and helped get presentations rolling and the likes. We got some of the companies at SXSWi to open up bar tabs (Microsoft, thanks to Chris Bernand, pitched in $1000 that went pretty quick, thanks to Dave Morrin from Facebook for the $500 tab and burritos too). Towards the end of the evening Soulhat played a show and we all ended up having a good time.
The most important bit with a BarCamp is that the community should be behind bringing it into existence, instead of waiting for USENIX, WWDC, or an O'Reilly conference, make your own! Have fun:)
Wow, where does one even start to combat the trolling.
If you look in the Mono.* namespace they've developed a LOT of Mono on its own, including Mono.Xml, Mono.Unix, Mono.Math and a wide vareity of other tools. Not to mention now there are various open source projects out there like DBus#, Dumbarton, and of course Tao.
Mono is a definite option now for cross-platform applications (Solaris, Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X, etc) and extends the compatibility to.NET 1.1 and is coming up on having a.NET 2.0 compatible class library.
Don't get yourself mixed up, Mono does allow developers to use.NET code on other platforms, but it is really a powerful framework unto itself nowadays.
No but seriously, you can make muscles twitch a'plenty with the application of electricity, we did it on dead frog legs back in the school once. Try it on your favorite dead-frog/spouse/roommate of choice
In the "free software realm" why does this not have it's place as well? For that matter, I'd rather not bring Open Office into the free software realm because Microsoft is obviously going to sue everybody for using a quasi-MS-Office clone...
Please tell me how this isn't acceptable, but kaffe is? By virtue of your reasoning the entire Mono project is moot since they're obviously in cahoots with Microsoft to forbid non-Novell distros to use their open source system. Mono helps lots of people bring.NET code over to Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and mobile devices, places Microsoft won't touch, so having VB.NET on that variety of platforms is also a good win for developers and users.
Using Microsoft's likelihood to sue people for any and every reason isn't enough to discredit an interesting project that offers options to developers and users, but then again, I must not get the whole "open source" ideal just yet.
I went ahead and signed up (what can I say, I'm a sucker for science) but I'm really hoping they make it clear what will be running on the agents.
One thing quite curious, the "introduction" images are almost direct yanks from xgrid@stanfard including the Dashboard widget the push as their own from the xgrid widget SDK linked with the xgrid@stanford project as well.
Should be interesting how this shapes up. 91 total agents right now, 0 working:-P
Sorry, but your post mentioned the buck at the top of the list and September 11th, and I can't help but draw any subtle lines between the head of the corp and the head of the state...
Anyways, I'm glad he took the fall for it, as he most likely has savings as opposed to the young guys who actually put up signs. Another sacrifice is made to the new State of paranoia.
Come on, let's try not to show such a bias here on slashd...oh, wha? That Jack Thompson?
I wonder if tarring and featherings are allowed in the florida legal system... Seriously though, isn't this a textbook case of "people getting what they deserve?"
"plans are afoot for a film that will bridge the gap between Galactica and the new spinoff 'Caprica.' The film would be shot in March during the usual hiatus between seasons."
With Japan's growing elderly population, now they can interact with a baby harp seal as per usual.
The other robot in the article I can forsee stabbing stubborn old people in the face with a spoonful of peas, finally we have a viable alternative to passively torturing our old people, the game of "hide the dentures" was getting a bit boring.
Where's the love for FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD?:)
As for the "from the beginning-of-an-era dept", give me a break. This is nothing more than Sun trying to ensure that Java stays relevant, with the greatest stability of other toolkits, Mono, Qt, GTK, wxWidgets, etc. I don't have to go through hell and back agreeing to page long license agreements trying to get Mono, or Qt installed/bundled with a Linux distro.
Who are we to tell them they're wrong? It's in America's culture to distrust extended rule and anything that smells like a monarchy. It's in Germany's culture to prefer stability of a strong leader to the uncertainty that can be found in the absence thereof. If they truly want Hitler to rule them, let him.
"one expert says that the federal government should create contests and prize awards for successful science ideas, while another advises that the National Science Foundation fund more graduate students and increase the amount of the fellowships."
How did we not think of that! Throw more money at the problem, that always works
It doesn't take a damned expert to figure out what's wrong, ask any geek that's in high school or recently graduated. Our problem is cultural, there's such an anti-intellectual problem in schools and the rest of society, actively encourage exploration (you know, the heart of science) throughout the development of today's youth, and within one generation we'll be sorted.
It's not as complicated as many make it out to be, encourage today's youth to think for themselves and experiment, not conform.
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People go outside?
I must say, this is the must retarded^Wenlightening post I have ever seen on slashdot. ever.
I mean, I never would have guessed that Steve Jobs would be in cahoots with the republicans, brilliant! -_-
Facebook caches everything that goes into the profile and it's just as "static" as it was before
;)
The "myspace" factor depends on your friends' taste I think
The author of the "article" doesn't seem to get "it" with regards to the platform.
Firstly, the documentation isn't fantastic, I agree, it's a relatively straight-forward REST api, and wouldn't you know it, the community of developers has been filling in the documentation gaps
As for instability, it's been there for the most part, you have to understand that Facebook might lack of the 100% reliability you may think your own code has. Facebook developers aren't perfect, nor is it unusual for things to break when near 25 million active users a day pound on it (at the very least, tiny bugs, image caching collisions i'm looking at you, become big bugs. As a side note, that has to have been the most famous end-table on the planet before they fixed that bug).
Finally, I've seen the "outcries over its application approval process" and those are silly as well. A very tiny percent of users actually install the application from the directory. My applications have blown up because of making use of the viral tools provided by the platform, invites, news feed postings, etc. Applications like X-Me exploded to well over 100k users before it was even listed (congrats chips), the same went for Graffiti
No system, especially a third-party system you rely on as a developer is ever perfect, but it's barely been a month since the Facebook Platform, so crying foul is extremely premature. If your only concern is that there's no one regulating the utility, then you should go ask some of those Windows developers how much fun the Longhorn-Vista moving target of a platform has been. It's their API, their platform, their social network, they get to choose what goes on with their "utility."
I'm sure i'll be marked as a troll, but this just reads like the same gripes at the bottom of the barrel in the FB Developers discussion board for some time now.
Disclaimer: I was one of the F8 attendees, and have been developing for the platform for almost 2 months now
Here's to you Mom, may we have another good 35 together.
p.s. Did you pick up more cheetos from the store?
It's BarCamp you silly goose. I would highly recommend organizing BarCampChicago similar to how we organized BarCampAustin 2 this past March. I mc'd most of the day and helped get presentations rolling and the likes. We got some of the companies at SXSWi to open up bar tabs (Microsoft, thanks to Chris Bernand, pitched in $1000 that went pretty quick, thanks to Dave Morrin from Facebook for the $500 tab and burritos too). Towards the end of the evening Soulhat played a show and we all ended up having a good time.
:)
The most important bit with a BarCamp is that the community should be behind bringing it into existence, instead of waiting for USENIX, WWDC, or an O'Reilly conference, make your own! Have fun
BarCampAustin 2 Video BarCampAustin 2 Photos
As far as I'm concerned, mono stands for "mononucleosis". I sure as heck don't want the human version nor the computer version!
Mono means monkey in spanish. Thus the monkey on almost ALL the mono-project pages.
Wow, where does one even start to combat the trolling.
.NET 1.1 and is coming up on having a .NET 2.0 compatible class library.
.NET code on other platforms, but it is really a powerful framework unto itself nowadays.
If you look in the Mono.* namespace they've developed a LOT of Mono on its own, including Mono.Xml, Mono.Unix, Mono.Math and a wide vareity of other tools. Not to mention now there are various open source projects out there like DBus#, Dumbarton, and of course Tao.
Mono is a definite option now for cross-platform applications (Solaris, Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X, etc) and extends the compatibility to
Don't get yourself mixed up, Mono does allow developers to use
Maybe not with sheep, but I'm pretty sure we have goat-human hybrid's already walking among us :)
I think one of those infamous /. editors messed up the title again ...
Oh wait, are we still calling Vista an upgr...OOOHH PRETTAY.
I know why I'm posting to /. on a saturday night, but I think you just made it blatantly obvious why you are...
You just aren't applying enough current...
No but seriously, you can make muscles twitch a'plenty with the application of electricity, we did it on dead frog legs back in the school once. Try it on your favorite dead-frog/spouse/roommate of choice
Jokes are only funny when used less than once every 24 hours. Please step back from the keyboard and try again tomorrow.
You capitalist pig.
Yes, let's all have our cake and eat it too.
.NET code over to Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and mobile devices, places Microsoft won't touch, so having VB.NET on that variety of platforms is also a good win for developers and users.
In the "free software realm" why does this not have it's place as well? For that matter, I'd rather not bring Open Office into the free software realm because Microsoft is obviously going to sue everybody for using a quasi-MS-Office clone...
Please tell me how this isn't acceptable, but kaffe is? By virtue of your reasoning the entire Mono project is moot since they're obviously in cahoots with Microsoft to forbid non-Novell distros to use their open source system. Mono helps lots of people bring
Using Microsoft's likelihood to sue people for any and every reason isn't enough to discredit an interesting project that offers options to developers and users, but then again, I must not get the whole "open source" ideal just yet.
I went ahead and signed up (what can I say, I'm a sucker for science) but I'm really hoping they make it clear what will be running on the agents.
:-P
One thing quite curious, the "introduction" images are almost direct yanks from xgrid@stanfard including the Dashboard widget the push as their own from the xgrid widget SDK linked with the xgrid@stanford project as well.
Should be interesting how this shapes up. 91 total agents right now, 0 working
Sorry, but your post mentioned the buck at the top of the list and September 11th, and I can't help but draw any subtle lines between the head of the corp and the head of the state...
Anyways, I'm glad he took the fall for it, as he most likely has savings as opposed to the young guys who actually put up signs. Another sacrifice is made to the new State of paranoia.
Angry workers more likely to sabotage systems...
News at elev...whenever I feel like it, get off my back!
"disbarment-we-can-only-hope"
Come on, let's try not to show such a bias here on slashd...oh, wha? That Jack Thompson?
I wonder if tarring and featherings are allowed in the florida legal system... Seriously though, isn't this a textbook case of "people getting what they deserve?"
"plans are afoot for a film that will bridge the gap between Galactica and the new spinoff 'Caprica.' The film would be shot in March during the usual hiatus between seasons."
"Unfortunately, nobody will be paid for any part of it."
With Japan's growing elderly population, now they can interact with a baby harp seal as per usual.
The other robot in the article I can forsee stabbing stubborn old people in the face with a spoonful of peas, finally we have a viable alternative to passively torturing our old people, the game of "hide the dentures" was getting a bit boring.
Where's the love for FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD? :)
As for the "from the beginning-of-an-era dept", give me a break. This is nothing more than Sun trying to ensure that Java stays relevant, with the greatest stability of other toolkits, Mono, Qt, GTK, wxWidgets, etc. I don't have to go through hell and back agreeing to page long license agreements trying to get Mono, or Qt installed/bundled with a Linux distro.
Sun, you're a bit late.
Who are we to tell them they're wrong? It's in America's culture to distrust extended rule and anything that smells like a monarchy. It's in Germany's culture to prefer stability of a strong leader to the uncertainty that can be found in the absence thereof. If they truly want Hitler to rule them, let him.
You're absolutely right, they should put those in the shutdown menu as well.
Seriously, KDE can get it right, Mac OS X can get it right. What's so wrong with: Sleep, Restart, Shutdown (, Logout)
"one expert says that the federal government should create contests and prize awards for successful science ideas, while another advises that the National Science Foundation fund more graduate students and increase the amount of the fellowships."
How did we not think of that! Throw more money at the problem, that always works
It doesn't take a damned expert to figure out what's wrong, ask any geek that's in high school or recently graduated. Our problem is cultural, there's such an anti-intellectual problem in schools and the rest of society, actively encourage exploration (you know, the heart of science) throughout the development of today's youth, and within one generation we'll be sorted.
It's not as complicated as many make it out to be, encourage today's youth to think for themselves and experiment, not conform.
what about it?