Check out the SAP benchmark site:
http://www.sap.com/benchmark/index.asp
1. Sun is the fastest computer available:
Sun Fire 15000, 104-way SMP, UltraSPARC III, 1200 MHz, 8 MB L2 cache, score is 8000
2. If you divide the score by the amount of processors: 8000/104 = 76.9
compare with :
IBM eServer xSeries 440 Model 8687-38X, 16-way SMP, Intel Xeon MP 2.0 GHz, 256 kB L2 cache, score 1090
score per cpu: 1090/16 = 68.1
So, even per-cpu basis, trivial UltraSparc III is faster that P4 Xeon 2.0 Ghz.
Want to compare with Itanium?
NEC Express5800, 1000series Highend Server, 32-way SMP, Itanium2, 1.0 GHz, 3MB L3 cache, score 2750.
Per cpu: 2750/32 = 85
Ups! Super-duper Itanium with 3 (!!) Mb of cache is just a little bit faster.
We have already energy and telecom antitrust mechanisms, where the producer of monopoly services is limited in what it can do. It is simple: Microsoft must be restricted from selling Windows directly, it must license it to top 10 PC makers. Dell Windows, IMB Windows - yes. MS Windows - no.
Linux is awarded as "The biggest treat" by Steve Ballmer Ballmer just named Linux Top Threat To Windows. And Linux zealots immediately proclaimed the ultimate move to the next stage by the famous Mahatma Gandhi's formula: First they Ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you get bought by AOL. Then they laugh at you.
Windows geeks of the Redmond and outer world! Unify your Visual Basic pains together! Lets read everybody the SlashWin paper (you need Office 2001 for that)! Facing the evil Linux empire ruling the world we admit that we have nothing to loose than our bugs, but we will win all the benchmarks! Lets fight until the Blue screen of death formats our hard drive to live! Lets destroy all the Universities, from where the Octopus of Linux belongs and than only Windows children will know to install.
Yes, this article was not worth to show-up at/.
Absolutely out-of date, everything was said 15 years ago.
There are 2 correct points in this article:
1) OOP requires more skills, so if you don't have money for a good team, don't do it.
2) Each task requres its approach. In some cases, you have to use non-OOP languages like Prolog, Lisp, C, Perl.
All other points in this article are invalid and outdated, IMHO
No! Whatever the lawyers do, the guinness is the best in the world!
I will never boycott then even if they patent one-click (or one-drink)!
In fact, what we drink in America is a Guinness, seriously damaged by conservation. In Ireland, can you imaging? - Guinness is even 10 times (10 times!!!) better. Hands off from guinness!
I think LDAP is supported by Novell.
If you need a directory service, what will you use if not NDS?
I agree that Novell will shrink a little bit, maybe twice, but it will be alive as long as NDS is alive, i.e. all the observable future.
That's right, this site gives the impression
that P3 1.13 Ghz is the fastest CPU in the industry.
In fact, both Alpha and U-Sparc-III are TWICE faster.
1) Not a bargain. In my company H1 workers get the same salary as americans, >= $70K for most people.
2) Yes, after returning home they can get better salary. Say, $8K per year instead of $3K before US.
There are many CAD and IC design simulations/compilations that requires from 10 minuts to 24 hours to proceed. I had a class in University to design some simple logic cirquit and I was waiting 15 minuts each time I change 1 line in the Verilog code:-(
Nobody cares. Let's push all problems to our next generations. In 5 years gas will be $5/gallon, in 25 years it will be $50 per gallon. Let our kids to pay, we don't care!
I don't agree. Microsoft is a _great_ mouse and keyboard company. Yes, they use to write software too, but that's not a very promising business. But as mouse company, they are here to stay forever!
Hi! I tryed many 2.3.* and 2.4.* kernels and they all crash my computer after ~5-10 hours of work, while 2.2.* is perfectly fine. I can't even report a bug, because hell knows what to report:( My computer is Abit BP6 dual Cel-366, IBM at primary IDE and 2 cd-roms at the ATA66. One is new HP burner, second is some crappy I/O magic DVD. On PCI I have: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 06) 00:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Daughterboard (rev 06) 00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 02) 00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 02) 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 8029 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0004 (rev 01) 00:13.1 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0004 (rev 01) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc.: Unknown device 0525 (rev 03)
Any idea? If someone help me to report the bug, that will be useful. It is quite possible that I have some hardware bugs, true. I was running memtest several times. It crashed once, but memory is fine.
Ok, now we got those two cases - Rambus and BT (patent for links). Previously, patent system was just an abuse. Now it put the industry in danger. So, I think those 2 are good news. Surprised? I think now even the idiot can understand that patents are bad thing. So, just wait 1 or 2 years more, and anti-patent lobby will be bigger than pro-patent. And things will start to change. What do you think?
Java references are even more than that. They are in fact abstractions, "handlers" to refer to the object. In fact, you can imagine JVM where you have reference to the objet, which is located at the different computer. And the program doesn't know that!
You have overhead of loading JVM each time. If you don't than it's different. I'm using "ant" - java compile utility, which compiles something very complicated at one JVM run. We are compiling our company product - 500 Java classes with jikes and ant/javac. You know the result? Time is equal. So java is NOT slower than C anymore, even on big tasks, like compiling 500 files.
I think, if you learned Perl before you learned binary trees and boolean algebra you won't be a good hacker - just a good coder. And if you spend your time learning Perl before you learned History, some foreign Languages and read major classic Books, you will be a boring person. How many languages you speak besides English? I know two more.
I was starting programming at the age of 16, and now I'm quite experienced and well-paid. I see no reason to start early. The general-purpose education is much more important. History, Languages, Physics, Math, Chemistry, Biology, Philosophy. ONLY when kids are perfect with those, you may start Programming. And not just programming, but the theory - Algorithms, Logic. And Perl... You can learn it after 20, no big deal.
Yes, we all know that story when the monster published essential piece of Kerberos interoperability specifications under trade secret notice in hope to compromise Samba developers with illegal knowledge and to establish a new legal precedent of "nobody can implement those specs". But, one of obvious outcome of the antitrust battle is the required openness of all Microsoft API's. That's what will be too late to protect in the High Court - once the bird is out of the cage, you can't put it back. Please, help me to write a list of young fellows waiting to kick the behemoth's butt: Netscape/Mozilla, Samba, RealNeworks, StarOffice, CorelOffice, IBM Speech Recognition, etc.
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Check out the SAP benchmark site: http://www.sap.com/benchmark/index.asp 1. Sun is the fastest computer available: Sun Fire 15000, 104-way SMP, UltraSPARC III, 1200 MHz, 8 MB L2 cache, score is 8000 2. If you divide the score by the amount of processors: 8000/104 = 76.9 compare with : IBM eServer xSeries 440 Model 8687-38X, 16-way SMP, Intel Xeon MP 2.0 GHz, 256 kB L2 cache, score 1090 score per cpu: 1090/16 = 68.1 So, even per-cpu basis, trivial UltraSparc III is faster that P4 Xeon 2.0 Ghz. Want to compare with Itanium? NEC Express5800, 1000series Highend Server, 32-way SMP, Itanium2, 1.0 GHz, 3MB L3 cache, score 2750. Per cpu: 2750/32 = 85 Ups! Super-duper Itanium with 3 (!!) Mb of cache is just a little bit faster.
for (x=1;x>=1,000,000;x++){
print "DEVELOPERS";
}
the loop is executed exactly 0 times, if you look close.
Itanium has cache on separate die. Its own die is small and is consuming only 25 Watts. But all together it is huge. And never sold separately.
I confirm I heard this rumor too.
Why invent the bycicle?
We have already energy and telecom antitrust mechanisms, where the producer of monopoly services is limited in what it can do.
It is simple: Microsoft must be restricted from selling Windows directly, it must license it to top 10 PC makers. Dell Windows, IMB Windows - yes. MS Windows - no.
A.
I work in software industry. Here, the law is simple - good code is a readable code. Unreadable code is a bad code. Period.
He did
make clean && make dep && time make bzImage
then
make clean && time make -j3 bzImage
read the article again! In SMP measurement, "make dep" step was missing, thus making those weird 142%!
http://samovarawards.com/
Linux is awarded as "The biggest treat" by Steve Ballmer Ballmer just named Linux Top Threat To Windows. And Linux zealots immediately proclaimed the ultimate move to the next stage by the famous Mahatma Gandhi's formula: First they Ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you get bought by AOL. Then they laugh at you.
Windows geeks of the Redmond and outer world! Unify your Visual Basic pains together! Lets read everybody the SlashWin paper (you need Office 2001 for that)! Facing the evil Linux empire ruling the world we admit that we have nothing to loose than our bugs, but we will win all the benchmarks! Lets fight until the Blue screen of death formats our hard drive to live! Lets destroy all the Universities, from where the Octopus of Linux belongs and than only Windows children will know to install.
Yes, this article was not worth to show-up at /.
Absolutely out-of date, everything was said 15 years ago.
There are 2 correct points in this article:
1) OOP requires more skills, so if you don't have money for a good team, don't do it.
2) Each task requres its approach. In some cases, you have to use non-OOP languages like Prolog, Lisp, C, Perl.
All other points in this article are invalid and outdated, IMHO
No! Whatever the lawyers do, the guinness is the best in the world!
I will never boycott then even if they patent one-click (or one-drink)!
In fact, what we drink in America is a Guinness, seriously damaged by conservation. In Ireland, can you imaging? - Guinness is even 10 times (10 times!!!) better. Hands off from guinness!
I think LDAP is supported by Novell.
If you need a directory service, what will you use if not NDS?
I agree that Novell will shrink a little bit, maybe twice, but it will be alive as long as NDS is alive, i.e. all the observable future.
That's right, this site gives the impression
that P3 1.13 Ghz is the fastest CPU in the industry.
In fact, both Alpha and U-Sparc-III are TWICE faster.
1) Not a bargain. In my company H1 workers get the same salary as americans, >= $70K for most people.
2) Yes, after returning home they can get better salary. Say, $8K per year instead of $3K before US.
Is fraunhofer only for Windows? I can't find anything better than nolame for Linux.
There are many CAD and IC design simulations/compilations that requires from 10 minuts to 24 hours to proceed. :-(
I had a class in University to design some simple logic cirquit and I was waiting 15 minuts each time I change 1 line in the Verilog code
Nobody cares. Let's push all problems to our next generations.
In 5 years gas will be $5/gallon, in 25 years it will be $50 per gallon. Let our kids to pay, we don't care!
I don't agree.
Microsoft is a _great_ mouse and keyboard company. Yes, they use to write software too, but that's not a very promising business. But as mouse company, they are here to stay forever!
Hi! :(
I tryed many 2.3.* and 2.4.* kernels and they all crash my computer after ~5-10 hours of work, while 2.2.* is perfectly fine. I can't even report a bug, because hell knows what to report
My computer is Abit BP6 dual Cel-366, IBM at primary IDE and 2 cd-roms at the ATA66. One is new HP burner, second is some crappy I/O magic DVD. On PCI I have:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 06)
00:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Daughterboard (rev 06)
00:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 02)
00:0d.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 (rev 02)
00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 8029
00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0004 (rev 01)
00:13.1 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0004 (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc.: Unknown device 0525 (rev 03)
Any idea?
If someone help me to report the bug, that will be useful.
It is quite possible that I have some hardware bugs, true. I was running memtest several times. It crashed once, but memory is fine.
Ok, now we got those two cases - Rambus and BT (patent for links). Previously, patent system was just an abuse. Now it put the industry in danger.
So, I think those 2 are good news. Surprised? I think now even the idiot can understand that patents are bad thing. So, just wait 1 or 2 years more, and anti-patent lobby will be bigger than pro-patent. And things will start to change.
What do you think?
Guys, I posted some extracts from ./ to my site,
http://samovarawards.com/
You are welcome to read
Java references are even more than that. They are in fact abstractions, "handlers" to refer to the object. In fact, you can imagine JVM where you have reference to the objet, which is located at the different computer. And the program doesn't know that!
You have overhead of loading JVM each time. If you don't than it's different.
I'm using "ant" - java compile utility, which compiles something very complicated at one JVM run.
We are compiling our company product - 500 Java classes with jikes and ant/javac. You know the result? Time is equal.
So java is NOT slower than C anymore, even on big tasks, like compiling 500 files.
I think, if you learned Perl before you learned binary trees and boolean algebra you won't be a good hacker - just a good coder.
And if you spend your time learning Perl before you learned History, some foreign Languages and read major classic Books, you will be a boring person. How many languages you speak besides English? I know two more.
I was starting programming at the age of 16, and now I'm quite experienced and well-paid.
I see no reason to start early. The general-purpose education is much more important. History, Languages, Physics, Math, Chemistry, Biology, Philosophy. ONLY when kids are perfect with those, you may start Programming. And not just programming, but the theory - Algorithms, Logic.
And Perl... You can learn it after 20, no big deal.
http://samovarawards.com/
Yes, we all know that story when the
monster published essential piece of Kerberos interoperability
specifications under trade secret notice in hope to
compromise Samba developers with illegal knowledge and to
establish a new legal precedent of "nobody can implement
those specs".
But, one of obvious outcome of the antitrust battle is the required openness of all
Microsoft API's. That's what will be too late to protect in the High Court - once the
bird is out of the cage, you can't put it back. Please, help me to write a list of young
fellows waiting to kick the behemoth's butt: Netscape/Mozilla, Samba, RealNeworks,
StarOffice, CorelOffice, IBM Speech Recognition, etc.