There are two important issues (along with many more): The time for half-life(s) to a nontoxic state and the amount of a Golly gee "Goof" that would threaten life on a large scale. The answer to #2 is not very much, especially if lost into wind driven dust or water born run off and into.
The situation with storage is how to mark it as a danger, we are talking about 200,000 years here for plutonium. How do we say "stay out"? With the change over decades of thousands of years the skull and crossbones may evolve into a meaning of "Artifacts of the gods" and it will be dug up with the best of intentions. Leave a large pyramid warning to last thousands of years well there is the glaciers that will visit in 20,00-30,00 years or so, they do not leave much behind. Salt mines will have earthquakes, long term water movement that over time will penetrate most any underground cell used for storage. We are talking about thousands of generations. I do not take credit for these statements for they have been written in may articles over the past twenty-thirty years./////If you do not remember what you had for lunch yeterday..stay out of pronuclear statements..
For years I have been haveing this discussion with a white orb every tuesday night at 3:00am, it keeps telling me that I am the spirit that dwells in his house. So what a relief, now I can turn up my stero bass and prove to my orb visitor that I do not exist.......there is something very funny about humor.
Well said, I feel any idea that is observed or comes to mind of military brass has the automatic prefix; Hmmmm what kind of a wepon do we have here, weither it is a robot or a ham sandwich........cover you art or it will be seen.
One of the more radical bikes here is the custom made turbine motor cycle. A million dollar army helocopter turbine (bought surplus for 1/100th the price) and a sureal frame. top speed is unknown, plenty of power to spare at 200mph. Jay Leno the Tonight Show host has one and he said it takes time to wind up, 0-40mph or so is remarkably slow then it is more than anyone could want x100. I checked out the sight you sent me and apparently the Royal Enfield diesel is not available in the U.S. In response to sending your first e-mail to my brother he said there are a few other diesel bikes, the websight he sent me did not arrive with his mail. A diesel bike would be interesting if only to be the only one on the block to have one. When I get the sight from my brother I will send it to you.
Thanks for the information, I do not think the BSA has been sold in the U.S. since the early 70's. Back to the topic of less known bikes I read some time ago about a Polish 1000cc one cylinder 4 cycle, motorcycle. It must of been a unusual ride and if it backfired when kickedstarted it must of been an experence. Ever seen one?
Diesel is a favorite subject of mine, I drive a 1983 MB 300SD turbo diesel, Jetta makes a great diesel and I have a 1980 Rabbit Pick-up diesel your remark (any sights I could check?) about the diesel enfield caught my attention and the rest of your information will be greatly appreciated by my brothers. We talked about both of these cycles and checked a bunch of sights. The Bike talked up a lot when I grew up in the 60's Was the BSA. It seemed like it was rather depedable and looked and sounded very cool. What ever happened to this company?
With 34 pounds of plutonium crashing into our jovial planet Jupiter, with the velocity and mass to find near center, pressure, we may have our second sun. Credit to A. C. Clark 2010 Space odyssey for the Idea yet we may not need a couple of million monoliths. I feel a milion to one odds in outer space is very small. We should'nt leave our little poops along the way of our space exploration. Are we being watched by our LGMs? most likly and I can see them shaking their heads and saying "What a bunch of multi-colored earth trash"
I am glad this has made headlines, FOR WHEN THIS PROBLEM IS FINALIZED WE WILL HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS IN SPACE!!!!! Decisions like this shoud be made in days or weeks not months or years. Like Patton said GO,GO,GO,GO,GO,GO,GO,....
Even with numbers irony exist.
Non reusable launch craft would be great, build a simple solar furnace in orbit and fuse all left over rocket
stages and various space debris into a molten slag to use for micro-meteriod insulation for the ISS. What is left can be watched over buy a guy who wears dirty t-shirts, doesn't shave, smokes a cigar, and has a pit bull named spike.
More for the protection of motercyclist I say, there are a couple (of many) neat less well known motorcycles: The Royal Enfield a copy of the triumph 500 made in India since the late 40's and the Russian copy of the 650cc BMW circa mid fiftys called the URAL. There is a military version of the URAL with a sidecar with positive rear traction,(availaable in the U.S.) that is both rear wheels spinning. Well, I did not know the science related to this article so now you know about the Enfield and URAL.
Very well said, I think the ratio is more like 50 to one. What if the cargo needs to be prepped before being seperated, I do not see a way to design the shuttle so that if the crew is killed somehow the cargo will be landed or seperated safely. If it can (I do not believe it can) why use people in the first place? Perhaps if we phrased "Space race" as space quest or exploration NASA would not be, or feel they were in the hot seat and as you suggest make some very dumb statements.
There was a crash involving a commercial aircraft here in Indiana, It was in a holding patteren for some time in icing conditions and with autopilot "on" when the pilot switched the autopilot off to decend after being given clearance the pilots were unable to match the control settings the autopilot set quick enough, the plane rolled and corrections by the flight crew over stressed the planes structure limits, the tail section broke off, all lives lost. Icing conditions can happen anywhere any time of the year. There should be technological progress with deicing, along with other aspects of flight.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune and I agree compleatly with you that they should have them. With a good airplane (even the single engine ones) costing hundred of thousands dollars an extra ten grand or so will not make them unattractive to buyers. Complexity of the cockpit? sounds like they were looking for straws, I wonder if the designers occasionaly forget about the demension of up and down with flying aircraft. Then there is the 70's era of airtraffic control systems.... Good luck with your furure endevors!
Thanks for your reply, I did not realize the jet exaust method to de-ice, sound good for jets. If you read down the replys to this article someone mentioned teflon and why it hs not been used. I have thought about this and other than the obvious reason that if it worked it would be used any thoughts about this? Perhaps the aerodynamics of ice formation has it coating a wing surface surface so evenly that there is not an off balanced force to shed it, and it only takes a second to fall out of the sky. The SABB 380 at the local airport here uses the heat element method and they do not kid around, they cover all wing and tail surfaces, the prop leading edges and prop hub. Thanks again for your reply, Annisette
Sounds like a good idea though there is the situation of de-icing the wing and tail surface areas. There are mechanical methods, an air expanding boot on the wing areas and electrical heat methods. I wonder if lasers can be used for this, any flying nerds out there with ideas? ( I mean pilots)
Yes, you are correct, it would be an uphill situation, I propose thinking and talking about it as a start. From what I have read the talk from NASA is to go from the ISS to a voyage to mars in 20 years and there is sound commitment. The moon is pretty darn close to just stare at it for 20 years. walk, crawl, run, after Apollo we have crawled back into orbit, perhaps we could walk back to the moon, then the run for mars. Thanks for your reply.
This is great stuff, so much in the articles the past few days about orbits, orbiting craft that I was getting dizzy, to see outer space is refreshing. The next step is to soft land the ISS on the other side of the moon, cover it with an igloo of epoxy and moon dust and start planning the steps to true space exploration. Three days away to deliver supplys can not be that tough.
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There are two important issues (along with many more): The time for half-life(s) to a nontoxic state and the amount of a Golly gee "Goof" that would threaten life on a large scale. The answer to #2 is not very much, especially if lost into wind driven dust or water born run off and into. The situation with storage is how to mark it as a danger, we are talking about 200,000 years here for plutonium. How do we say "stay out"? With the change over decades of thousands of years the skull and crossbones may evolve into a meaning of "Artifacts of the gods" and it will be dug up with the best of intentions. Leave a large pyramid warning to last thousands of years well there is the glaciers that will visit in 20,00-30,00 years or so, they do not leave much behind. Salt mines will have earthquakes, long term water movement that over time will penetrate most any underground cell used for storage. We are talking about thousands of generations. I do not take credit for these statements for they have been written in may articles over the past twenty-thirty years./////If you do not remember what you had for lunch yeterday..stay out of pronuclear statements..
Lets see, metal fillings in my teeth, a candy bar, and I am wireless! Sign in restaurants "Please refrain from plugging into our sugar bowls"
For years I have been haveing this discussion with a white orb every tuesday night at 3:00am, it keeps telling me that I am the spirit that dwells in his house. So what a relief, now I can turn up my stero bass and prove to my orb visitor that I do not exist.......there is something very funny about humor.
Well said, I feel any idea that is observed or comes to mind of military brass has the automatic prefix; Hmmmm what kind of a wepon do we have here, weither it is a robot or a ham sandwich........cover you art or it will be seen.
One of the more radical bikes here is the custom made turbine motor cycle. A million dollar army helocopter turbine (bought surplus for 1/100th the price) and a sureal frame. top speed is unknown, plenty of power to spare at 200mph. Jay Leno the Tonight Show host has one and he said it takes time to wind up, 0-40mph or so is remarkably slow then it is more than anyone could want x100. I checked out the sight you sent me and apparently the Royal Enfield diesel is not available in the U.S. In response to sending your first e-mail to my brother he said there are a few other diesel bikes, the websight he sent me did not arrive with his mail. A diesel bike would be interesting if only to be the only one on the block to have one. When I get the sight from my brother I will send it to you.
Thanks for the information, I do not think the BSA has been sold in the U.S. since the early 70's. Back to the topic of less known bikes I read some time ago about a Polish 1000cc one cylinder 4 cycle, motorcycle. It must of been a unusual ride and if it backfired when kickedstarted it must of been an experence. Ever seen one?
Diesel is a favorite subject of mine, I drive a 1983 MB 300SD turbo diesel, Jetta makes a great diesel and I have a 1980 Rabbit Pick-up diesel your remark (any sights I could check?) about the diesel enfield caught my attention and the rest of your information will be greatly appreciated by my brothers. We talked about both of these cycles and checked a bunch of sights. The Bike talked up a lot when I grew up in the 60's Was the BSA. It seemed like it was rather depedable and looked and sounded very cool. What ever happened to this company?
With 34 pounds of plutonium crashing into our jovial planet Jupiter, with the velocity and mass to find near center, pressure, we may have our second sun. Credit to A. C. Clark 2010 Space odyssey for the Idea yet we may not need a couple of million monoliths. I feel a milion to one odds in outer space is very small. We should'nt leave our little poops along the way of our space exploration. Are we being watched by our LGMs? most likly and I can see them shaking their heads and saying "What a bunch of multi-colored earth trash"
I believe that launch was a military one. there funding is almost infinite, expecially now.
I am glad this has made headlines, FOR WHEN THIS PROBLEM IS FINALIZED WE WILL HAVE NO MORE PROBLEMS IN SPACE!!!!! Decisions like this shoud be made in days or weeks not months or years. Like Patton said GO,GO,GO,GO,GO,GO,GO,.... Even with numbers irony exist.
Non reusable launch craft would be great, build a simple solar furnace in orbit and fuse all left over rocket stages and various space debris into a molten slag to use for micro-meteriod insulation for the ISS. What is left can be watched over buy a guy who wears dirty t-shirts, doesn't shave, smokes a cigar, and has a pit bull named spike.
I am not supprised, as Neil Young sings, Rust never sleeps.
More for the protection of motercyclist I say, there are a couple (of many) neat less well known motorcycles: The Royal Enfield a copy of the triumph 500 made in India since the late 40's and the Russian copy of the 650cc BMW circa mid fiftys called the URAL. There is a military version of the URAL with a sidecar with positive rear traction,(availaable in the U.S.) that is both rear wheels spinning. Well, I did not know the science related to this article so now you know about the Enfield and URAL.
Very well said, I think the ratio is more like 50 to one. What if the cargo needs to be prepped before being seperated, I do not see a way to design the shuttle so that if the crew is killed somehow the cargo will be landed or seperated safely. If it can (I do not believe it can) why use people in the first place? Perhaps if we phrased "Space race" as space quest or exploration NASA would not be, or feel they were in the hot seat and as you suggest make some very dumb statements.
There was a crash involving a commercial aircraft here in Indiana, It was in a holding patteren for some time in icing conditions and with autopilot "on" when the pilot switched the autopilot off to decend after being given clearance the pilots were unable to match the control settings the autopilot set quick enough, the plane rolled and corrections by the flight crew over stressed the planes structure limits, the tail section broke off, all lives lost. Icing conditions can happen anywhere any time of the year. There should be technological progress with deicing, along with other aspects of flight.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune and I agree compleatly with you that they should have them. With a good airplane (even the single engine ones) costing hundred of thousands dollars an extra ten grand or so will not make them unattractive to buyers. Complexity of the cockpit? sounds like they were looking for straws, I wonder if the designers occasionaly forget about the demension of up and down with flying aircraft. Then there is the 70's era of airtraffic control systems.... Good luck with your furure endevors!
All leading wing and tail surfaces.
Thanks for your reply, I did not realize the jet exaust method to de-ice, sound good for jets. If you read down the replys to this article someone mentioned teflon and why it hs not been used. I have thought about this and other than the obvious reason that if it worked it would be used any thoughts about this? Perhaps the aerodynamics of ice formation has it coating a wing surface surface so evenly that there is not an off balanced force to shed it, and it only takes a second to fall out of the sky. The SABB 380 at the local airport here uses the heat element method and they do not kid around, they cover all wing and tail surfaces, the prop leading edges and prop hub. Thanks again for your reply, Annisette
Sounds like a good idea though there is the situation of de-icing the wing and tail surface areas. There are mechanical methods, an air expanding boot on the wing areas and electrical heat methods. I wonder if lasers can be used for this, any flying nerds out there with ideas? ( I mean pilots)
Well said, and I along with many can't wait for the results.
Yes, you are correct, it would be an uphill situation, I propose thinking and talking about it as a start. From what I have read the talk from NASA is to go from the ISS to a voyage to mars in 20 years and there is sound commitment. The moon is pretty darn close to just stare at it for 20 years. walk, crawl, run, after Apollo we have crawled back into orbit, perhaps we could walk back to the moon, then the run for mars. Thanks for your reply.
This is great stuff, so much in the articles the past few days about orbits, orbiting craft that I was getting dizzy, to see outer space is refreshing. The next step is to soft land the ISS on the other side of the moon, cover it with an igloo of epoxy and moon dust and start planning the steps to true space exploration. Three days away to deliver supplys can not be that tough.
Very little has slowed down Mr. Rutan from anything he wants to accomplish. This is a great accomplishment as all others he has worked on.
Milk is a natural source of morphine soooo there may be something to the phrase I got to have my milk!
These cows move around with the assistance of jet powered CO2?