But performance as far as the end user is concerned is not significantly different as far as I can see.
Maybe there's little difference between preempt and not, but the 2.4 to 2.6 "end user" difference is huge.
I've just fired 2.6 up on my old Duron 1100, and my gosh it's fast. The desktop is fair screaming now. I used to have to wait a few seconds just to get a Gnome terminal up - now I don't. I can only imagine how instant KDE 3.2 response would be.
It's great that this is possible, but I'm not sure it should be patented. What ever happened to research for the good of mankind, and academic recognition?
I know medical research is expensive and all, and inventors/researchers need protection from having their ideas stolen, but what it means is that the technology can be held to ransom by the patent holder. "Yes we can save you, but it'll cost you $5000 a week for the rest of your life, etc."
Got my speedy BitTorrent download, thanks. But how do I check it's validity? No MD5 to download from kernel.org? Use the.sign - read http://www.kernel.org/signature.html
Lets face it - idealism or even practicality isn't going to come in to it. The US Goverment will put out a contract call for IT infrastructure, and Microsoft will get it. Cost doesn't matter because oil will pay for it.
Well boo hoo to the studios. I regularly import things from other countries when the local distributor is ripping the market off. It's called parallel importing, and it works just fine for me. Any "exclusive rights" are only an agreement between the supplier and the distributor (in movies, this is probably part of the same company anyway) and has nothing to do with me, so if they don't like it I don't care. Obviously, if there's a problem with the DVD I bought, I can't return it to a local shop, but that's my choice to make in exchange for a lower price. It's a global market, and it works for consumers as well as producers.
Don't do anything wrong. Then you won't have to worry about the police tracking you.
That's remarkably naive. If politicians stopped making everything I'm currently doing illegal in a vain attempt to be seen to be doing something, or if police weren't so blindly zealous in their enforcement of laws that the public they are their to serve and protect doesn't want, then *maybe* I would have less to worry about. As it is however, if I change nothing in my behaviour, I'm fairly certain I would be arrested within 5 years - despite not breaking the laws of today.
It's the old story... make everyone a criminal, then you can detain anyone you want.
Sounds like he used relays or haxored boxen located in VA. I'd be suprised if they busted him for his data passing through via fibre optic cable or something.
Hmmm. So some enterprising fella could set themselves up selling controller software? That'd be ok, cos it's not like they'd be selling a full-on cruise missle or anything...
I hope they don't go about asking for spectrum for anything but experimentation this early in their project.
If it does prove successful in either mesh or single-path topology, you can bet the local telcos and broadcasters will kick up a stink. I can hear the regulators shuffling their paper already...
Which "people" believe it? We're all as bad as each other, so the problem with making everyone a criminal is that nobody cares anymore. Oooh, I'm a "bad guy". Well fuck it, politicians take enormous bribes, slobs beat up on their wives, tv personalities get busted being high on the job, businessmen buy each other hookers as tax deductable gifts, police beat up petty thieves, ad nasuem. Our supposedly civilised world is fucked up, and if some government wants to slap another label on me, if it makes them feel like they're making the world a better place for the "good" people, they're welcome to it. Because when they go home, they're just like the rest of us. Even the police slow down for speed cameras on the way home from work.
The thing I dislike about it is that it blows off the users who only want the patches. I care not about "support" per se, only that security patches are applied in a timely manner and that the system is going to be reasonably stable. I was getting that for 60 USD, and now it costs 349 USD minimum. And what about next year? Or the year after that? RedHat lost a lot of trust by pulling the plug on small users who don't want to run a beta distro on their servers.
Totally agree. I buy assorted tech and automotive stuff from all around the world, mostly cos it's heaps cheaper than buying it locally in NZ. The ONLY place that I consistently have trouble dealing with is the US. It's no wonder they've got a monster trade defecit - nobody wants to sell outside of their own country. I've got a few regular suppliers, but they're large companies that have set themselves up for it, and yes, they charge extra for the privledge of buying from them.
Cue lots of replies about how hard it is to fill in shipping forms, and how those foreign swine all use fake credit card numbers etc etc.
The issue is adoption rate. Personally, I think it's doable. If the mainstream Open Source crowd and Microsoft migrated to a new format/transport then others would have to follow or risk being blocked by folks who decided to stop using the old system because of the amount of spam they receive. The industry is small enough that we could do it.
I, for one, welcome our new super-fast trains. I've used the 300kph trains (TGV,Eurostar,etc) and they are a really nice way to get around. For travelling within continents, these will a far better alternative than flying.
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But performance as far as the end user is concerned is not significantly different as far as I can see.
Maybe there's little difference between preempt and not, but the 2.4 to 2.6 "end user" difference is huge.
I've just fired 2.6 up on my old Duron 1100, and my gosh it's fast. The desktop is fair screaming now. I used to have to wait a few seconds just to get a Gnome terminal up - now I don't. I can only imagine how instant KDE 3.2 response would be.
It's great that this is possible, but I'm not sure it should be patented. What ever happened to research for the good of mankind, and academic recognition?
I know medical research is expensive and all, and inventors/researchers need protection from having their ideas stolen, but what it means is that the technology can be held to ransom by the patent holder. "Yes we can save you, but it'll cost you $5000 a week for the rest of your life, etc."
Got my speedy BitTorrent download, thanks. But how do I check it's validity? No MD5 to download from kernel.org? Use the .sign - read http://www.kernel.org/signature.html
Dude, I didn't say I like it - just that it's probably going to go down this way.
What's the right version of glibc?
Lets face it - idealism or even practicality isn't going to come in to it. The US Goverment will put out a contract call for IT infrastructure, and Microsoft will get it. Cost doesn't matter because oil will pay for it.
Well boo hoo to the studios. I regularly import things from other countries when the local distributor is ripping the market off. It's called parallel importing, and it works just fine for me. Any "exclusive rights" are only an agreement between the supplier and the distributor (in movies, this is probably part of the same company anyway) and has nothing to do with me, so if they don't like it I don't care. Obviously, if there's a problem with the DVD I bought, I can't return it to a local shop, but that's my choice to make in exchange for a lower price. It's a global market, and it works for consumers as well as producers.
This may seem obvious to us today...
Apparently not:
Feel free to mod this +1 Scary.
Cheers mate.
What support? That $349 RedHat price was without support.
Don't do anything wrong. Then you won't have to worry about the police tracking you.
That's remarkably naive. If politicians stopped making everything I'm currently doing illegal in a vain attempt to be seen to be doing something, or if police weren't so blindly zealous in their enforcement of laws that the public they are their to serve and protect doesn't want, then *maybe* I would have less to worry about. As it is however, if I change nothing in my behaviour, I'm fairly certain I would be arrested within 5 years - despite not breaking the laws of today.
It's the old story... make everyone a criminal, then you can detain anyone you want.
It's not just you. Outside the US, Sun's sales and support network appears to suck big time. They're damn difficult people to give money too...
Sounds like he used relays or haxored boxen located in VA. I'd be suprised if they busted him for his data passing through via fibre optic cable or something.
It's also cheaper than RedHat or SuSE...
1 CPU x86 Solaris RTU = 99 p.a. (Patches are downloadable)
1 CPU x86 RedHat ES Basic Subscribtion = 349 p.a.
Hmmmm...
Hmmm. So some enterprising fella could set themselves up selling controller software? That'd be ok, cos it's not like they'd be selling a full-on cruise missle or anything...
I hope they don't go about asking for spectrum for anything but experimentation this early in their project.
If it does prove successful in either mesh or single-path topology, you can bet the local telcos and broadcasters will kick up a stink. I can hear the regulators shuffling their paper already...
Which "people" believe it? We're all as bad as each other, so the problem with making everyone a criminal is that nobody cares anymore. Oooh, I'm a "bad guy". Well fuck it, politicians take enormous bribes, slobs beat up on their wives, tv personalities get busted being high on the job, businessmen buy each other hookers as tax deductable gifts, police beat up petty thieves, ad nasuem. Our supposedly civilised world is fucked up, and if some government wants to slap another label on me, if it makes them feel like they're making the world a better place for the "good" people, they're welcome to it. Because when they go home, they're just like the rest of us. Even the police slow down for speed cameras on the way home from work.
Because us American's have a natural and benificial mistrust of big business and big government!
Which is precisely why you don't have the largest companies and biggest government in the world.
Oh, wait...
The thing I dislike about it is that it blows off the users who only want the patches. I care not about "support" per se, only that security patches are applied in a timely manner and that the system is going to be reasonably stable. I was getting that for 60 USD, and now it costs 349 USD minimum. And what about next year? Or the year after that? RedHat lost a lot of trust by pulling the plug on small users who don't want to run a beta distro on their servers.
Totally agree. I buy assorted tech and automotive stuff from all around the world, mostly cos it's heaps cheaper than buying it locally in NZ. The ONLY place that I consistently have trouble dealing with is the US. It's no wonder they've got a monster trade defecit - nobody wants to sell outside of their own country. I've got a few regular suppliers, but they're large companies that have set themselves up for it, and yes, they charge extra for the privledge of buying from them.
Cue lots of replies about how hard it is to fill in shipping forms, and how those foreign swine all use fake credit card numbers etc etc.
Hmm. Do you think any of the manufacturers of those kinds of devices with embedded electronics have been moving to Linux recently?
This is MS trying to get their fingers into everybodies pies - hopefully the manufacturers will just not use FAT.
For a while I had netblocks from all of Asia, Africa, and South America in my access.db. This was pretty effective at blocking spam.
That's pretty stupid, considering the United States is No. 1 on the Spamhaus Top 10 Worst Spam Countries list.
The issue is adoption rate. Personally, I think it's doable. If the mainstream Open Source crowd and Microsoft migrated to a new format/transport then others would have to follow or risk being blocked by folks who decided to stop using the old system because of the amount of spam they receive. The industry is small enough that we could do it.
And much less hassle as well.
Train:- Arrive 5 minutes before departure.
- Get on.
- Travel, with passport check on the way.
- Get off.
Airplane:I, for one, welcome our new super-fast trains. I've used the 300kph trains (TGV,Eurostar,etc) and they are a really nice way to get around. For travelling within continents, these will a far better alternative than flying.
Isn't it:
As complex as necessary, but simple as possible?