true, except they don't even reaslise they are being scammed. paying for everything you do, and being constantly subjected to advertising the the norm for most people. they don't know any different and accept it as being normal online.
unfortunately, the large corps that 0wn the net now are loving it too. most punters think the internet is msn and explorer, and that miscrosoft runs the internet. unless they use aol. it's just bits and packets to me, but to them it's "an experience". or something.
the only people who think it should be any different are us old-timers (over 25?) who haven't sold out, so i think it's fair to say the internet as we knew it is dead, or at least well underground (pun intended).
True. IIRC, rapeseed and sun-flowers and similar are apparently the shiznit for producing bio-diesel, and there's no reason that the same can't happen for ethanol with other fuels.
It makes a lot of sense, hugely reduces processing, is cleaner, and is renewable.
OK... you can store hydrogen densly in metal matrix form, IIRC. I think you have to heat the matrix to release it, but it's been ages since I looked at it. You may not need to "get back" the electricity if you burn it as a fuel, eg BMW's H2 powered 7-series of many years ago. There's plenty of other way s to generate power too, solar, wind, and wave come to mind.
Good point. We've heard lots of names or folks who are fighting the Good Fight (like Paul Vixie and David Maher) but who is actually responsible for this? Sure, Verisign is the company and they have their spokespersons/spindoctors, but who are the actual people who thought this up and implemented it? This shite affects all of us, so no more hiding behind the company doors.
Have any of you read the "terms of use"? http://sitefinder.verisign.com/terms.jsp What a load of bollocks - do they seriously want us to believe that being redirected without our control to some bogus directory site is a legally binding agreement?! Go fsck yourselves Verisign!
If that's what it takes to stop this, sign me up. I kinda figured that sooner or later the free thing wouldn't cut it. If we need dollars/euros to compete (read not get legislated out of existance) then so be it. If FSF sets up a fund for this purpose, I'll donate for sure.
I disagree. We DO notice what is going on, it's just that we cannot do anything legal to stop it. I've had this feeling for a long while now, that a revolution is brewing. It's time (again) to take the power back to the people.
The website protests were a good start, but restricting access to a geek website (eg freshrpms.net) is preaching to the choir. How about some 733+ h4X0r5 give us a government and high profile site blockages? How about the software and manufacturing companies give a week or month long demo of what will happen without free access to already public information - stop R&D, and stop sales (and use!) of anything which relies on ANY "IP" not developed exclusively in-house. When the economy grinds to a halt within days, politicians and representitives (representing who, exactly?) will realise just how pervasive modern technology has become, and how important it is in keeping society and business operating.
A bunch of geeks aren't much in the scheme of things, but if said geeks tell their bosses the impact of what is going to happen, these bosses will get to talking at business meetings and golf courses. Hopefully the gravity of the situation will sink in before it's too late.
I didn't say you should not be able to do anything, I only pointed out the real world business perspective of the scenario described in your post. We've got different views and ideas about this, so don't go trying to use my logic, rationally or otherwise.
Yes, buying a used copy is seen by some publishers as income they are missing out on. Of course, that is just them wanting to have their cake and eat it too, but again, this is a business perspective.
And if copying a work for reference and citation, you still have not bought the work have you? Regardless of circulation, unless the publisher specifically wants you to advertise for them, you're ripping them off.
That's backwards. From an accounting perspective, you having one that was not purchased cost the publisher the value of that sale - sure there was no cost of sales incured or production cost, but they didn't get the money they would have otherwise received had you bought it. And having additional copies of a book reduces its value - this is basic supply and demand.
I'm not saying it's right, but that's the business interpretation of it. Geek logic != Business logic.
They charge more per machine than say, RedHat, so I expect similar levels of support. Security updates are a serious issue, and if I'm paying for my software I expect issues such as this to be taken seriously.
Slashdot Mirror
I wonder when/if Sun will release a 64 bit Solaris x86?
...is that Mozilla 1.2 on RH9 completely barfs when opening that link. Wierd.
true, except they don't even reaslise they are being scammed. paying for everything you do, and being constantly subjected to advertising the the norm for most people. they don't know any different and accept it as being normal online.
unfortunately, the large corps that 0wn the net now are loving it too. most punters think the internet is msn and explorer, and that miscrosoft runs the internet. unless they use aol. it's just bits and packets to me, but to them it's "an experience". or something.
the only people who think it should be any different are us old-timers (over 25?) who haven't sold out, so i think it's fair to say the internet as we knew it is dead, or at least well underground (pun intended).
What I find odd about that is the distinction between selling and distributing. Whether sold or given away, the copyright implications are the same.
Imagine spam with a 100% click return rate! I'd almost feel sorry for the poor web and db servers as they got DDOS'd into oblivion.
True. IIRC, rapeseed and sun-flowers and similar are apparently the shiznit for producing bio-diesel, and there's no reason that the same can't happen for ethanol with other fuels.
It makes a lot of sense, hugely reduces processing, is cleaner, and is renewable.
'Course, in a democracy, the politicians are supposed to represent the views of the people... :-D
anyways, let's pray that we dont get another ego race and hatred towards each other over this.
Maybe if you don't go around implying that Sweden and similar EU countries are "3rd world nations" that won't be such a problem...
OK... you can store hydrogen densly in metal matrix form, IIRC. I think you have to heat the matrix to release it, but it's been ages since I looked at it. You may not need to "get back" the electricity if you burn it as a fuel, eg BMW's H2 powered 7-series of many years ago. There's plenty of other way s to generate power too, solar, wind, and wave come to mind.
Yes, Deep Space 1 did use an ion engine. This craft also uses tricky orbits on its way to the moon, under a massive one postcard of thrust.
I wonder which one of these characters made this mess happen?. html
http://www.verisign.com/corporate/about/executive
Good point. We've heard lots of names or folks who are fighting the Good Fight (like Paul Vixie and David Maher) but who is actually responsible for this? Sure, Verisign is the company and they have their spokespersons/spindoctors, but who are the actual people who thought this up and implemented it? This shite affects all of us, so no more hiding behind the company doors.
Once again, meddling lawyers spoil the fun for everyone. :(
Have any of you read the "terms of use"? http://sitefinder.verisign.com/terms.jsp What a load of bollocks - do they seriously want us to believe that being redirected without our control to some bogus directory site is a legally binding agreement?! Go fsck yourselves Verisign!
Note to self: Cancel EU holiday next month ;-)
If that's what it takes to stop this, sign me up. I kinda figured that sooner or later the free thing wouldn't cut it. If we need dollars/euros to compete (read not get legislated out of existance) then so be it. If FSF sets up a fund for this purpose, I'll donate for sure.
I disagree. We DO notice what is going on, it's just that we cannot do anything legal to stop it. I've had this feeling for a long while now, that a revolution is brewing. It's time (again) to take the power back to the people.
The website protests were a good start, but restricting access to a geek website (eg freshrpms.net) is preaching to the choir. How about some 733+ h4X0r5 give us a government and high profile site blockages? How about the software and manufacturing companies give a week or month long demo of what will happen without free access to already public information - stop R&D, and stop sales (and use!) of anything which relies on ANY "IP" not developed exclusively in-house. When the economy grinds to a halt within days, politicians and representitives (representing who, exactly?) will realise just how pervasive modern technology has become, and how important it is in keeping society and business operating.
A bunch of geeks aren't much in the scheme of things, but if said geeks tell their bosses the impact of what is going to happen, these bosses will get to talking at business meetings and golf courses. Hopefully the gravity of the situation will sink in before it's too late.
I didn't say you should not be able to do anything, I only pointed out the real world business perspective of the scenario described in your post. We've got different views and ideas about this, so don't go trying to use my logic, rationally or otherwise.
Yes, buying a used copy is seen by some publishers as income they are missing out on. Of course, that is just them wanting to have their cake and eat it too, but again, this is a business perspective.
And if copying a work for reference and citation, you still have not bought the work have you? Regardless of circulation, unless the publisher specifically wants you to advertise for them, you're ripping them off.
That's backwards. From an accounting perspective, you having one that was not purchased cost the publisher the value of that sale - sure there was no cost of sales incured or production cost, but they didn't get the money they would have otherwise received had you bought it. And having additional copies of a book reduces its value - this is basic supply and demand.
I'm not saying it's right, but that's the business interpretation of it. Geek logic != Business logic.
But many of us are their damn OSS developers!
I'm not saying the Humvee isn't ugly, but at least it's practical...
http://evworld.com/archives/conferences/evs14/humv ee.html
They charge more per machine than say, RedHat, so I expect similar levels of support. Security updates are a serious issue, and if I'm paying for my software I expect issues such as this to be taken seriously.
Reminds me of a joke...
What did the leper say to the prostitute?
Keep the tip!
Actually, I think the color Green is the root of all evil. But you're probably right.
Maybe something database backed that links into Gnome VFS could work?