I couldn't come up with a witty response, but I do want to be ub3r-c00l and use the word 'boxen'. Is that okay? On my Windows BOXEN (am I cool now?), I install:
1. Norton Internet Security Pro. 2004. The firewall sucks ass, but better than nothing, I guess. Lookin to use BlackIce. Anti-virus is a must as a frequently dabble in warez and.. well, you never know!
Actually, they ARE searching for Atlantis next. Info here
Was watching CNN Headline news as I was working out this morning and it scrolled across the bottom that researchers are planning to look under Cyprus for Atlantis.
I immediately thought of this/. story and how much money and time these researchers are wasting.
Most of what's wrong in this world stems from religions. Not the beliefs that state "be kind/loving/generous to your fellow man", but the zealots who blindly follow, believe, and misinterpret everything that they've been told/read.
I know 100% for a fact this will fail, but that won't stop people from bringing up counter-arguments against it.. and how that these events really took place, yadda yadda.
No, they aren't taking my money, but they're definitely taking someone else's money. Not only that, but I have to live in a world and witness things turn to shit due to religion.
For example, President GWB doesn't want Gay Marriages because... *gasp* religion says it's bad. I'm not gay, but if that isn't some closed minded thinking, I don't know what is. Any extremist (terrorists in particular).. it seems that most of the closed minded events that take place in this world are driven by misinterpreted religions, but religions nonetheless.
Spouting off about it on a "Researchers look for Noah's Ark" is probably not the best of places for it, but I like to speak my mind when given the slightest opportunity to do so.
Yeah, I don't care what you say. All I know is that right now, there is a man all alone up there in the sky driving his chariot around.. and the flame wheels give us LIGHT during the day. You can disprove that with your "there's a 'sun' made of hydrogen and helium, and we're on earth and we rotate around it" all you want, but, Buddy, I BELIEVE in the flame wagon driver. YOU ARE WRONG.
What would he think if he heard you talking like that? WWAD. What would Apollo do?
You couldn't be more correct. Finally, someone with a BRAIN and some logic. Our kind are rare indeed;)
But in all seriousness, our current day and age allows us to document such things as history. Back then, they didn't have anything like that. People were also stupid and believed pretty much anything you told them. How many thousands of years did the Greeks believe that a God named Apollo flew his chariot (that big bright ball of flame in the sky)? Hell, back then, people didn't even know the earth was ROUND. More than half the f'n earth was unexplored..
...and why is it we believe stories from their era? Why? There's no PROOF. Someone could easily say "disprove it", but that's where the illusion comes into play. I could claim that a floating spirit named "Asspump" lives under the Rocky Mountains. You might laugh and think I'm kidding, but guess what? DISPROVE IT! You can't. No one can. Does that mean it's true?
1. This is assuming The Bible is the end-all historical book of religion. So does this mean that Buddhists, Hindus, Islams, etc... are wrong? Well, according to The Bible, non-believers go to hell (or aren't saved, same thing) *rolls eyes*
2. This boat will have to be big enough to hold TWO of each and every animal ever. The story took place.. what, tens of thousands of years ago? Started off that God told some man that he was gonna flood the earth out and to take each and every animal and protect it on a boat? Hahaha, right. Not gonna happen!
3. Reality check: people thousands of years ago lacked scientific explanations for things that happened. You could easily convince your neighbor that the stars in the sky were the eyes of the gods staring at you, or that the hot fire that causes pain is the home of the big bad devil that will eat your soul if you're not a good person! Basically, a man-made tool used to keep people civil. No, I don't have proof, but come on, think outside of the box for once.
What a wild goose chase all of this is. I just hoped they aren't disappointed when they don't find anything.
I agree 100%. It's sad to see all these ignorant morons blasting C# just because it's a Microsoft technology and pretty much a clone of Java. If anything, this is one of the few GOOD things that Microsoft has actually done.
Pretty much anyone and everyone who bashes it doesn't have an honest to god FACTUAL reason why it "sucks" so bad, that's the funny part.
I've worked with both extensively, and while Java definitely has the upper hand in being truly cross platform, C# and the.NET framework is a million times easier to work with.
People really need to start taking their heads outta their asses before rambling off about something they don't know about.
Actually, it's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's only "bad" when others profit from it. Me downloading movies/software/games for my personal use and not distributing them... yeah, illegal, but honestly not THAT bad.
Honestly, I think it depends on the burner. I have no solid proof to back this up, but I have had experiences with it.
It is a popular misconception that burned PS2 games will not work if burned over 1x. The reason this APPEARS to be true is because a lot of DVD burners suck ass, even the big brand name ones. Burn anything over 1x, and the PS2 can't read the data.
Is it the PS2's fault? No. Reason being... I've witnessed DVD-Rs burned on 2.4-4x using a friend's DVD burner that will NOT play at all, but I take a DVD burned with MY DVD burner at 4x, it works perfectly! Same brand of disc and everything.
Based on that, I think it's safe to say that it all depends on what you burn it with.
I have CDs that were made about 7 years ago that are in relatively good shape and run just fine. They have the usually tiny scratches and dings, but... I don't get where people state that CDs will magically stop working after so many years.
To be quite honest, there isn't much of a threat if the average Joe were to download music/software. It's when you don't take the proper precautions when sharing it. If you were to go download a copy of Windows XP right now from alt.binaries.cd.image, I bet you my entire salary that you would get away with it 100% (providing you aren't copying to CD, reselling it, or sharing it). The consequences (legally against you, and monetarily against the industry) would be literally non-existant.
The only argument that stands is, "If everyone did it.." which is 100% true IF it did occur, but... not everyone does and not everyone will.
Because it's all bullshit either way. There are most certainly TONS of pirated copies of Windows, but look at MSs profit. They aren't being hurt by it in the SLIGHTEST. Oh wait, so Microsoft has only 6 billion in the bank instead of 6.5-7 billion (assuming piracy even costs them a billion, which is probably not even close)?
I think right there that goes to show that pirating doesn't really affect business. It's just something the industry has to accept.
I notice a lot of people on here are so completely against piracy, and I find it laughable. Yeah, you can follow the law all you want, but look at the numbers and the facts. It's not THAT big of a deal.
IMO, there shouldn't be any raids. There are more important issues going on in this country other than music/software copying.
I agree 100% with the parent poster. Chances are, if I didn't have a medium available to download the movies/games/music, I probably wouldn't have purchased them anyway, and it's true.
If I had no intentions whatsoever on seeing The Punisher movie and I get bored and decide to download it, no one is really losing money. Yes, techinically it's illegal, but I'm not distrubuting it, I'm not profiting, and I'm not stealing. If I wasn't able to download that movie, I'd probably end up forgetting it even existed until it hit HBO or was available on Netflix.
Who will create the next Unreal Tournament when no one feels like paying for them anymore?
That is a completely invalid "what if" statement. Everyone DOES have the ability to download these movies/games (provided they have a decent connection or are willing to wait a long time). In fact, you get them from the EXACT same place you download your music from. Does everyone do it? No. Yes, in a not-so-perfect world where EVERYONE downloads EVERYTHING and pays for NOTHING, then yeah, it would hurt, but it's not that way and it will never be that way, so therefore it doesn't really hurt. Note, I said "doesn't really" because yes, it hurts *some*, a very small fraction, but not enough to make a stink about it or go raiding places for pirated works.
In particular, they hope that such a standard will allow 3D data to be more easily incorporated into other apps, such as web browsers, to make 3D imagery more widespread - and, in turn, boost demand for faster processors and graphics chips.
I see what's goin on here. Microsoft and Intel... always making things unnecessarily bloated just to convince people that they always need to keep upgrading their CPUs!
So this is basically a "no one has any reason to buy our 3 ghz chips, so let's force them into doing it by making a 'standard'!"
Experience is everything in this field. Of course, it depends on where you apply. You won't be getting a job at NASA without a degree, but you certainly don't need a degree to make a damn good living as a programmer. A student fresh out of college with a degree and NO real world experience is just as good as someone who's casually dabbled in programming who walks in off the street wanting to be a programmer.
Have you seen CIS courses in colleges? They're a flat out JOKE and completely miss the mark in teaching what needs to be taught. Instead, the programming courses are nothing more than simplified math classes that use compilers/code instead of calculators to work problems. For instance, you take a Java class and chances are (unless you have a kickass teacher that knows what needs to be taught) you'll be coding math functions and stuff like how to calculate quadratic equations instead of the more important aspecs such as the true advantages of developing with Java in the real world. Sorry, but the person with practical experience in Java will get hired before the person with experience in solving Quadratic equations (and is completely void of OOP concetps).
Kinda OT, but yeah, I'm not really concerned about what the law states. If I want to copy DVDs (especially my own to make backups), I'm gonna do it and there isn't much anyone can do about it. I'm not reselling them. Besides, I'm talking about downloading movies. Movies that are currently in theaters.
My point is, their profits aren't hurt by piracy. A small fraction, sure, but what about the amount of people who download the movie, watch it, then turn around and buy it when it comes out on DVD? I've done it in the past. The ??AA skews the numbers and looks at them from a black and white perspective. They see the number of pirated movies and say, "Ahh... that's how much potential profit we lost." I don't care how much you're against piracy, but I'm sure you can see how WRONG that assumption is. Chances are those people wouldn't have purchased the movies anyway. No, it doesn't make it right, but it's not that big of a deal.
I have well over 100 DVDs that I've copied from Netflix. I'm not gonna try to justify it because I know it's illegal, but to a point. I don't mass distribute them. Half of those movies I wouldn't have purchased anyway at the price they're going for. A lot of them are getting heavy rotation on HBO, some are played prime time on the major networks.
To them, they "lost sales" from DVDs I've copied, but I'm me and I know more than they do about what I was willing to purchase or not.
For instance, let's take The Punisher. I'm not a comic book fan, so I'm not exactly hyped about going to see the movie. It looks like a mediocre action flick. If I get bored this week, I'll probably download it and watch it. If I didn't have the sources to download it, I'd probably forget about it and wait until it hit HBO or Blockbuster (even if I rent it and copy it, the movie is already paid for by Blockbuster). The bottom line is, although my actions are technically illegal, they haven't lost any real revenue from it because I had no intentions on going out of my way to see this movie.
The only kind of piracy I don't agree with is someone who downloads the movie, slaps it on a DVD, and tries to resell it. Kinda sucks that one person profits from something that someone else made. Anything other than that, like downloading for personal use, is pretty irrelevant.
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This looks like a copy & paste of a horrible term paper... why mod this up?
I couldn't come up with a witty response, but I do want to be ub3r-c00l and use the word 'boxen'. Is that okay? On my Windows BOXEN (am I cool now?), I install:
.net Enterprise Architect 2003
1. Norton Internet Security Pro. 2004. The firewall sucks ass, but better than nothing, I guess. Lookin to use BlackIce. Anti-virus is a must as a frequently dabble in warez and.. well, you never know!
2. Winzip/WinRar
3. Visual Studio
4. SQL Server 2000 Enterprise
5. Apache
6. MySQL
7. PHP/Perl
8. Firefox
9. Thunderbird
10. P2P apps (Shareaza, Kazaa Lite, WASTE, Freenet, etc)
Actually, they ARE searching for Atlantis next. Info here
/. story and how much money and time these researchers are wasting.
Was watching CNN Headline news as I was working out this morning and it scrolled across the bottom that researchers are planning to look under Cyprus for Atlantis.
I immediately thought of this
why be so dead-set against religion
Most of what's wrong in this world stems from religions. Not the beliefs that state "be kind/loving/generous to your fellow man", but the zealots who blindly follow, believe, and misinterpret everything that they've been told/read.
I know 100% for a fact this will fail, but that won't stop people from bringing up counter-arguments against it.. and how that these events really took place, yadda yadda.
No, they aren't taking my money, but they're definitely taking someone else's money. Not only that, but I have to live in a world and witness things turn to shit due to religion.
For example, President GWB doesn't want Gay Marriages because... *gasp* religion says it's bad. I'm not gay, but if that isn't some closed minded thinking, I don't know what is. Any extremist (terrorists in particular).. it seems that most of the closed minded events that take place in this world are driven by misinterpreted religions, but religions nonetheless.
Spouting off about it on a "Researchers look for Noah's Ark" is probably not the best of places for it, but I like to speak my mind when given the slightest opportunity to do so.
Yeah, I don't care what you say. All I know is that right now, there is a man all alone up there in the sky driving his chariot around .. and the flame wheels give us LIGHT during the day. You can disprove that with your "there's a 'sun' made of hydrogen and helium, and we're on earth and we rotate around it" all you want, but, Buddy, I BELIEVE in the flame wagon driver. YOU ARE WRONG.
What would he think if he heard you talking like that? WWAD. What would Apollo do?
You couldn't be more correct. Finally, someone with a BRAIN and some logic. Our kind are rare indeed ;)
...and why is it we believe stories from their era? Why? There's no PROOF. Someone could easily say "disprove it", but that's where the illusion comes into play. I could claim that a floating spirit named "Asspump" lives under the Rocky Mountains. You might laugh and think I'm kidding, but guess what? DISPROVE IT! You can't. No one can. Does that mean it's true?
But in all seriousness, our current day and age allows us to document such things as history. Back then, they didn't have anything like that. People were also stupid and believed pretty much anything you told them. How many thousands of years did the Greeks believe that a God named Apollo flew his chariot (that big bright ball of flame in the sky)? Hell, back then, people didn't even know the earth was ROUND. More than half the f'n earth was unexplored..
Because most of it is FAKE. It's purely beliefs, nothing more. I mean, it's like saying "Santa doesn't exist" and then having someone say "Prove it."
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You really can't, but ya know.. chances of him existing are like
I don't even know where to begin..
1. This is assuming The Bible is the end-all historical book of religion. So does this mean that Buddhists, Hindus, Islams, etc... are wrong? Well, according to The Bible, non-believers go to hell (or aren't saved, same thing) *rolls eyes*
2. This boat will have to be big enough to hold TWO of each and every animal ever. The story took place.. what, tens of thousands of years ago? Started off that God told some man that he was gonna flood the earth out and to take each and every animal and protect it on a boat? Hahaha, right. Not gonna happen!
3. Reality check: people thousands of years ago lacked scientific explanations for things that happened. You could easily convince your neighbor that the stars in the sky were the eyes of the gods staring at you, or that the hot fire that causes pain is the home of the big bad devil that will eat your soul if you're not a good person! Basically, a man-made tool used to keep people civil. No, I don't have proof, but come on, think outside of the box for once.
What a wild goose chase all of this is. I just hoped they aren't disappointed when they don't find anything.
...like having sex with his friend's sister or taking from company donations. No one just "resigns" out of nowhere for no reason like that.
Toasty!
I agree 100%. It's sad to see all these ignorant morons blasting C# just because it's a Microsoft technology and pretty much a clone of Java. If anything, this is one of the few GOOD things that Microsoft has actually done.
.NET framework is a million times easier to work with.
Pretty much anyone and everyone who bashes it doesn't have an honest to god FACTUAL reason why it "sucks" so bad, that's the funny part.
I've worked with both extensively, and while Java definitely has the upper hand in being truly cross platform, C# and the
People really need to start taking their heads outta their asses before rambling off about something they don't know about.
My justification is: because I want to and there's nothing anyone can really do about it. Good enough? ;)
No lie. He told me how the ENTIRE place reeked of B.O. and how the "snacks" were pieces of lunchmeat and some crackers. WTF?
Actually, it's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's only "bad" when others profit from it. Me downloading movies/software/games for my personal use and not distributing them... yeah, illegal, but honestly not THAT bad.
Honestly, I think it depends on the burner. I have no solid proof to back this up, but I have had experiences with it.
It is a popular misconception that burned PS2 games will not work if burned over 1x. The reason this APPEARS to be true is because a lot of DVD burners suck ass, even the big brand name ones. Burn anything over 1x, and the PS2 can't read the data.
Is it the PS2's fault? No. Reason being... I've witnessed DVD-Rs burned on 2.4-4x using a friend's DVD burner that will NOT play at all, but I take a DVD burned with MY DVD burner at 4x, it works perfectly! Same brand of disc and everything.
Based on that, I think it's safe to say that it all depends on what you burn it with.
I think the reply that cdrguru made to my post just about sums it up :)
That's what I meant, CD-R's.
Burning at 2x or max is irrelevant, IMO. I think that statement is just a thing to make people feel more secure about media they're making :P
It might change the colors, but it has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not the CD will mysteriously decay away.
I have CDs that were made about 7 years ago that are in relatively good shape and run just fine. They have the usually tiny scratches and dings, but... I don't get where people state that CDs will magically stop working after so many years.
To be quite honest, there isn't much of a threat if the average Joe were to download music/software. It's when you don't take the proper precautions when sharing it. If you were to go download a copy of Windows XP right now from alt.binaries.cd.image, I bet you my entire salary that you would get away with it 100% (providing you aren't copying to CD, reselling it, or sharing it). The consequences (legally against you, and monetarily against the industry) would be literally non-existant.
The only argument that stands is, "If everyone did it.." which is 100% true IF it did occur, but... not everyone does and not everyone will.
Because it's all bullshit either way. There are most certainly TONS of pirated copies of Windows, but look at MSs profit. They aren't being hurt by it in the SLIGHTEST. Oh wait, so Microsoft has only 6 billion in the bank instead of 6.5-7 billion (assuming piracy even costs them a billion, which is probably not even close)?
I think right there that goes to show that pirating doesn't really affect business. It's just something the industry has to accept.
I notice a lot of people on here are so completely against piracy, and I find it laughable. Yeah, you can follow the law all you want, but look at the numbers and the facts. It's not THAT big of a deal.
IMO, there shouldn't be any raids. There are more important issues going on in this country other than music/software copying.
I agree 100% with the parent poster. Chances are, if I didn't have a medium available to download the movies/games/music, I probably wouldn't have purchased them anyway, and it's true.
If I had no intentions whatsoever on seeing The Punisher movie and I get bored and decide to download it, no one is really losing money. Yes, techinically it's illegal, but I'm not distrubuting it, I'm not profiting, and I'm not stealing. If I wasn't able to download that movie, I'd probably end up forgetting it even existed until it hit HBO or was available on Netflix.
Who will create the next Unreal Tournament when no one feels like paying for them anymore?
That is a completely invalid "what if" statement. Everyone DOES have the ability to download these movies/games (provided they have a decent connection or are willing to wait a long time). In fact, you get them from the EXACT same place you download your music from. Does everyone do it? No. Yes, in a not-so-perfect world where EVERYONE downloads EVERYTHING and pays for NOTHING, then yeah, it would hurt, but it's not that way and it will never be that way, so therefore it doesn't really hurt. Note, I said "doesn't really" because yes, it hurts *some*, a very small fraction, but not enough to make a stink about it or go raiding places for pirated works.
In particular, they hope that such a standard will allow 3D data to be more easily incorporated into other apps, such as web browsers, to make 3D imagery more widespread - and, in turn, boost demand for faster processors and graphics chips.
I see what's goin on here. Microsoft and Intel... always making things unnecessarily bloated just to convince people that they always need to keep upgrading their CPUs!
So this is basically a "no one has any reason to buy our 3 ghz chips, so let's force them into doing it by making a 'standard'!"
Experience is everything in this field. Of course, it depends on where you apply. You won't be getting a job at NASA without a degree, but you certainly don't need a degree to make a damn good living as a programmer. A student fresh out of college with a degree and NO real world experience is just as good as someone who's casually dabbled in programming who walks in off the street wanting to be a programmer.
Have you seen CIS courses in colleges? They're a flat out JOKE and completely miss the mark in teaching what needs to be taught. Instead, the programming courses are nothing more than simplified math classes that use compilers/code instead of calculators to work problems. For instance, you take a Java class and chances are (unless you have a kickass teacher that knows what needs to be taught) you'll be coding math functions and stuff like how to calculate quadratic equations instead of the more important aspecs such as the true advantages of developing with Java in the real world. Sorry, but the person with practical experience in Java will get hired before the person with experience in solving Quadratic equations (and is completely void of OOP concetps).
Kinda OT, but yeah, I'm not really concerned about what the law states. If I want to copy DVDs (especially my own to make backups), I'm gonna do it and there isn't much anyone can do about it. I'm not reselling them. Besides, I'm talking about downloading movies. Movies that are currently in theaters.
My point is, their profits aren't hurt by piracy. A small fraction, sure, but what about the amount of people who download the movie, watch it, then turn around and buy it when it comes out on DVD? I've done it in the past. The ??AA skews the numbers and looks at them from a black and white perspective. They see the number of pirated movies and say, "Ahh... that's how much potential profit we lost." I don't care how much you're against piracy, but I'm sure you can see how WRONG that assumption is. Chances are those people wouldn't have purchased the movies anyway. No, it doesn't make it right, but it's not that big of a deal.
I have well over 100 DVDs that I've copied from Netflix. I'm not gonna try to justify it because I know it's illegal, but to a point. I don't mass distribute them. Half of those movies I wouldn't have purchased anyway at the price they're going for. A lot of them are getting heavy rotation on HBO, some are played prime time on the major networks.
To them, they "lost sales" from DVDs I've copied, but I'm me and I know more than they do about what I was willing to purchase or not.
For instance, let's take The Punisher. I'm not a comic book fan, so I'm not exactly hyped about going to see the movie. It looks like a mediocre action flick. If I get bored this week, I'll probably download it and watch it. If I didn't have the sources to download it, I'd probably forget about it and wait until it hit HBO or Blockbuster (even if I rent it and copy it, the movie is already paid for by Blockbuster). The bottom line is, although my actions are technically illegal, they haven't lost any real revenue from it because I had no intentions on going out of my way to see this movie.
The only kind of piracy I don't agree with is someone who downloads the movie, slaps it on a DVD, and tries to resell it. Kinda sucks that one person profits from something that someone else made. Anything other than that, like downloading for personal use, is pretty irrelevant.