No, seriously... what the hell is "c**p?" Crap? Tell me, please tell me you did not just bleep out the word "crap." Tell me that word "c**p" is some really dirty word I'm just unfamiliar with.
Fry's and EB here in Las Vegas (at least the last time I bought a game which was Prince of Persia) was $5 more expensive and I believe LotR Third age is the same way. On identical games they're usually more expensive so I've noticed.
In fact GC are usually $5 more expensive than their PS2 or XBox counterparts. The proprietary media (despite its cuteness) was what I assumed was responsible for the increased price.
Gentoo often refers to itself as a "meta distribution." In many cases it's like an automated Linux From Scratch. Point is, I use Portage and its tools to roll my own stuff on a local server and create binary packages on the server and all my client machines install from there. I don't rice out with stupid optimisations, but it is nice that all my packages are compiled the way I want them. (By that I mean since no one here runs Gnome, I have no Gnome support compiled in, etc.)
A couple of my friends and I use Gentoo as do our servers. With one central server the setup works well and keeps us all up to date with minimal compiling. From my "real world" standpoint it works very, very well. I even keep my mom's laptop up to date this way without having to physically touch the thing.
Plus, once a machine is customized, just keep your/etc and/home and you're set. I keep some common configurations stored on my server as well. This took me a lot of initial work, but it doesn't take me much longer to do an install of Gentoo than any other OS anymore.
I have to hear the cracks around here about compile times all the time... but seriously, who cares? Do you really need the latest KDE the second the ebuild is ready? Start your updates and go to bed. it's very rare that anything isn't complete by the time I get up in the morning.
It's not for everyone, but as should be stated over and over, no distro is nor should every distro be. All I'm saying is that "real world" is a very relative term and for my real world Gentoo is my choice and besides... I think it's fun. I used to be a Slackware fiend so maybe that explains my problem.
You're focusing on the wrong part of the story. I wasn't speaking out against evolution specifically. I was just saying that I'm tired of people trying to pass it off as "proven fact." Scientists don't agree. They don't understand the method. They're working with what they have which really isn't a lot. I never even said it was wrong. I just said it is hardly proven.
Inductive reason tells me that the beauty and diversity of life is the product of a creative intelligence that may or may not have used the process of evolution to create that.
Your "evidence" for evolution being as it is is no less circumstantial than mine.
More important than anything else my point is simply that science is moving forward and will move forward. We've hardly scratched the surface and even with the particle of understanding of the universe we possess there are people are out there going, "That's it. We solved it. It's fact." When it isn't.
And you know another thing, incorrect theories lead to correct ones. Evolution, in the history books, may end up being written off as a mistake of man that lead to something greater. Darwin didn't have the tools we have now and his idea of evolution is certainly not what we have today. I don't believe what we have today will be what we have tomorrow.
I believe in God but that also doesn't instantly make me some kind of Biblical fundamentalist. I'm not attempting to stop scientific theory. I'm not opposed to any findings. I mean hell, I love computers. I'd be pretty bummed if not for science, you know?
It's a good thing we also have diversity of thought just as we have diversity of life, so don't tell me it's sad that people think as I do just because I don't agree with your acceptance of evolution. I'm not telling you not to believe. Geez.
That I think what things? That theory masquerading as fact should be called such? That the word "faith" should be applied to ALL parties who use it.
I believe in God, but I certainly don't cling to a literal belief in a six day creation or other such rubbish. However, I wasn't present for the creation of the world so all I am capable of doing is having faith that those freaks are wrong.
As humans we cannot even define our own reality. We cannot prove our own existence outside of our own minds. I BELIEVE I'm not living in some construct similar to "The Matrix" but how can any of us prove otherwise? I certainly don't believe that, but honestly... what proof do we have?
I like to think I'm a man of science and in my mind circumstantial evidence points to the existence of God. I'm not throwing my religion in other people's face or saying, "THIS IS HOW IT IS! IT IS FACT NOT FAITH!" I'm not closed to new ideas either. However, most of what I take for granted is built on the limited perceptions of "educated" people whose opinions I trust.
My entire post was simply asking that the kettle be called black. That's all.
Of course maybe you're a pro-creationist nutjob who is angry at me for not being a "believer" too.
I think it's scarier that there are tens of millions of people like yourself who are unwilling to talk and too quick to label. (Yes, I labeled pro-creationist nutjobs one paragraph above, deal with it.)
The problem is that's it's faith, i.e. you just believe it with no basis in provable (or testable) fact.
And is evolution any different? Or any science for that matter? How many of us here can really prove much of anything. Some people have faith in scientists telling them, "Hey this is how it works." Some people turn to religion for the same thing.
We all have faith in something and while science often takes more steps of proof than religion, our understanding of the universe is, at best, a black box. We have a theory, we throw some values into it and sometimes we get the results we figured we'd get.
We're tiny primates in a large, cold and mysterious universe that have barely scratched the surface of anything and for every one discovery that tells us we're on the right track there's two that tell us that perhaps it is time to rethink everything.
I've never seen at atom. I have faith that they exist. I've never been to Africa. It's existence is based on my faith in maps and pictures, but given the I rarely leave my home state those pictures could be from anywhere.
Intelligent design is no more faith than Darwinian evolution.
Intelligent Design: Look, there's a bunch of circumstantial evidence that says these complicated biological machines cannot be the product of choas. Some kind of intelligence much have been involved. Look at other systems in human life.
Evolution: Look, there's a bunch of circumstantial evidence that says these complicated biological machines came about by gradual change in nature. It was all random and we're not even sure about all the details but if we look at some historical evidence, it agrees.
Gimme a break. "Scientists" can't even agree and evolution, as it stands, is still full of holes. I don't care if people believe in it. I don't care if people believe in creationism. I just get real tired of the evolutionist camp making these ridiculous claims that their idea doesn't require faith. The only belief system that does not require faith is an agnostic view. If you don't care, you don't need faith.
Evolution is a theory. It's not an answer. It's got a lot of holes that may or may not be plugged. In a lot of people's minds it is the best answer out there. Great. Wonderful. It's still faith. It's still a black box. Our science 100 year ago was a joke by today's standards. In 100 more years, today will be a joke. These searches lead us the greater discoveries and understanding. That is the best part of science. The worst part is people taking an uncompleted puzzle and pushing it on everyone else and calling it "complete" and "provable" as opposed "faith" as it is.
What on earth are you talking about and what kind of crack are you smoking? The emu10k1 is one of the (if not THE) best supported sound card in the world of Linux. I still use it instead of the 25 million channel audio built onto my board because the audio quality is just better (as in no pops and skips).
CMedia 8738 cards work very well too and I use one of those on my other box but please... don't knock emu10k1 cards in Linux because you've got to be complete retard not to get them working.
I remember when I was first trying to get into Linux on the desktop. I had my Win2k machine which had all my newest hardware, my big monitor, my favorite keyboard, etc. It was a Duron 750 with 256M of RAM.
I had Slackware running Gnome 1.4 on the other machine because I was really interested in Ximian Evolution. I used it for my email but, for the most part, was unimpressed. "This is slow!" Blah, blah, blah...
It was such an amazing experience when I finally just set up a dual booting system and everything was so much faster and nicer to work with. I brought that up because I was amused reading about your friends putting Linux on older boxes because it reminded me of my frustration that was really dumb on my part.
I finally "went commando" (the day my machine stopped dual booting) and have been happy with my setup ever since.
Anyway, these memory debates are usually silly and flawed because apples usually aren't compared to apples.
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Vector Linux. It's based off Slackware and I've had a fair amount of luck with it on slower machines. That's also its aim.
Gentoo works well too in certain circumstances. I have a powerful machine that compiles generic packages and I install over the network on my slower machines. When I say "slower" I mean old PIIs. There's not much of a reason (for me) to keep anything older around. The performance in those cases is also acceptable. This is a really poor option for someone who *only* has a slow computer though.
These memory debates get old pretty fast. WindowsXP doesn't run that great with less than 256M of RAM. It runs okay with 128, but then again so does my laptop running KDE 3.3. Not great, but acceptable. (OpenOffice is ass slow to start up on pretty much any platform.) The reality is that hardware is getting faster and memory is getting fatter. I want Gnome and KDE devs to design around modern systems... not dinosaurs.
Anyway, the days of Linux on older machines aren't over. Vector with XFce4 run wonderfully. Start up times can be slow, but once things are running performance is pretty good. It's not great, but if you're expecting "great" on old machines... stop. It's silly.
Although, I did really enjoy the Clone Wars cartoon miniseries. Maybe I'm simple minded, but if there's a weekly show that ends in a lightsaber duel every single time it airs, I could give a rat's ass about the rest of the content.
As far as I'm concerned it's the best thing to come out of Star Wars since the original movies. I can't say my disappointment was wiped away or anything, but... the game was just awesome and with a sequel coming out... I've just decided that games like that are where I'll have to live out the rest of my Star Wars dreams. That and bad fan fiction.
Yeah, seriously... WTF was the point of that movie? I was repairing my dad's computer one night. His HD was dying and I was doing a Ghost of it when that movie came on.
I kept hoping the movie eventually came to some sort of resolution or something or explained the point or... SOMETHING! Nope. Nothing. Mind you the nudity makes it a better movie than the second Mortal Kombat movie, but not by much. (All it would have taken is the use of the word "Animality" in Eyes Wide Shut to make it worse.)
Is there a fucking guide somewhere that says, "Hey, here's why spacial rocks and here's how to use it effectively."
Although having to have a manual sort of defeats the goal of simplicity. Like you, I can't imagine guys this talented thought such a BLATANTLY BAD IDEA was a good thing. Am I missing something?
I keep hearing, "Gnome is easier" but the fact that I have to open up the gConf editor just to turn that ridiculous, annoying, FUCKING RETARDED default off is insanity.
Is there a guide? Can someone here that's not sounding like a Gnome salesman explain the spacial thing to me?
Maybe it's just because I know what I'm doing, but can you tell me which is "easier" for the normal user. Editing gConf (since I had to for a lot of trivial changes because the option wasn't available) or going to the control center. Seriously, KDE is a cakewalk. I fail to see how Gnome is any easier. You click an icon, you get a program and you don't have to deal with that God forsaken, frustrating spacial file manager.
(And PS, I really liked the way gConf was laid out so I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying, there were a number of times that people would say, "Oh yeah, there's no option, just go into gConf." Which is fine, I'm cool with that, but humble users wouldn't be.)
I preferred Gnome in the 1.4 vs. KDE 2.x days. However, KDE has been my primary desktop since the 3.x series. I've tried Gnome 2, 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 and when 2.8 comes out I'll be trying it out too. I haven't found them any easier to use or focused.
And about a hundred other laws. My uncle is currently in Florida defending a guy who is in a similar boat and I gotta tell you, it's hilarious when the high and mighty IRS officials get on the stand.
"Well... I... I thought there was a law."
And seeing as I'm in the same boat on the Driver's license issue, what can I say?
There is no control panel app that I'm aware of. I edit/etc files to set stuff up unless the given program has its own manager. Although emerge -Up world is REALLY nice. Suddenly, an entirely updated machine. (This is, of course, assuming you're a freak like that... which I am.)
When you use emerge to compile a package you can have it make binary packages. Right now I do all the compiling on my desktop and then have my laptop use those packages (since it's much slower).
However, you can simple copy/usr/portage/distfiles from one machine to another. That's where the source tarballs are stored. So you could go, do some emerge (and I think there's an option to only grab the sources, I believe it is --fetchonly) at the cafe and then bring those files back for compiling.
Distcc, AFAIK is easy to set up although, as I said before, I prefer to compile binary packages on my fastest machine and use those for installing. (This is especially convenient since I almost always use my laptop anyway.) I complile i686 because I'm really not too interested in the extra 1% performance I might gain by compiling specifically P3 or Athlon (and my home machines are different architectures).
Anyway... that may or may not have been helpful. If you're interested in more info you can reach me at smilingbandit AT neo-anarchists.com
Yeah, it hasn't been the speed for me (seeing as I haven't noticed a difference anyway) but the ability to mess with the compile time options in a really, really convenient way.
That I find that Gentoo's startup scripts and the way/etc is managed are much cleaner than some other distros I used to use.
First, let me make it clear that I have been an AMD fanboy since my 286. That being said...
10 GHz CPUs on the P4 Architecture.
And has the P4 architecture reached its limits? I remember in the early days of the P4 they said they thought it could scale up that far and it keeps climbing.
Socket Technology was at its maximum speed. The Slot was the only way to advance CPU technology.
Cache tightly coupled to the CPU was the new thing. At the time it was way too expensive to put cache on the chip. Pentium Pros did it (or something similar if I remember) but they also required you to sacrifice your first born.
AGP was needed due to the PCI bus not being able to continue advancements.
It was needed up until the point that higher performing video RAM become both cheap and available. The primary point of AGP was to allow the video card to use system RAM either instead of or in addition to onboard RAM. At the time the idea of video cards with 128 megs on board was absurd.
We do not need 64-bit desktops yet.
Do you? I'm running an Athlon XP 2000+ on my main machine and have had no compelling reason to upgrade in quite some time. I want an Athlon64 setup, but other than maybe increasing compile times, I can't think of anything else that I'm really going to notice. How much faster is my browser really going to go?
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This is stupid because as far as I know the processor power is there (all Intel is responsible for) and it's really an issue of software.
Some of these statements may have been short sighted (sockets and AGP) but in context they weren't lies.
I've found KDE 3.2 to be very snappy as well both on my AthlonXP 2000+/512MB RAM and my PIII 1GHz/512MB RAM. My Athlon box dual boots into Win2k which, for desktop use, seems quicker to me but primarily in start up times rather than using times.
Something else to add. KDE native apps are right in it with Windows, even sometimes in startup time. When I fire up The Gimp or (heaven forbid) Open Office, the startup times are just plain morbid and while it might only be perception, they seem slower too.
So if you want to compare apples to apples (KDE native apps and Windows apps) things are pretty close to on par. My preloaded Konq fires up about as fast as IE.
Gnome was pretty snappy too... as long as I wasn't loading KDE apps. That's the main area that I see speed/bloat issues is when I try to start loading up competing libraries.
But what can you do? Choice has its own set of problems and I'd rather have those than the problems created by a lack thereof. It'll come together as more time, my volunteers, more money and more users fall into place.
They've also embraced the added instructions, like SSE3 and such in a big hurry. I don't know if you read the whole interview but I found the end, the part about the securtity/encryption features that are supported only in the free software world and NOT by Windows to be one of the coolest parts.
I haven't read a comparison in some time, but if I remember these chips are fairly competetive for everyday use, but their floating point is kinda weak.
I remember their chips well. I actually read another interview with this guy years ago in Boot magazine (before they become Maximum PC). If you build "normal" PCs, then you may never have heard of them, but their products have always been available at Fry's.
I've been considering building a box or two using their parts because they're fanless and, on my Linux boxes, I don't need a lot in the way of power because they're office, web, email, text editing boxes. Hell, their 1GHz part is good enough to do a lot with.
No, seriously... what the hell is "c**p?" Crap? Tell me, please tell me you did not just bleep out the word "crap." Tell me that word "c**p" is some really dirty word I'm just unfamiliar with.
Fry's and EB here in Las Vegas (at least the last time I bought a game which was Prince of Persia) was $5 more expensive and I believe LotR Third age is the same way. On identical games they're usually more expensive so I've noticed.
In fact GC are usually $5 more expensive than their PS2 or XBox counterparts. The proprietary media (despite its cuteness) was what I assumed was responsible for the increased price.
Gentoo often refers to itself as a "meta distribution." In many cases it's like an automated Linux From Scratch. Point is, I use Portage and its tools to roll my own stuff on a local server and create binary packages on the server and all my client machines install from there. I don't rice out with stupid optimisations, but it is nice that all my packages are compiled the way I want them. (By that I mean since no one here runs Gnome, I have no Gnome support compiled in, etc.)
/etc and /home and you're set. I keep some common configurations stored on my server as well. This took me a lot of initial work, but it doesn't take me much longer to do an install of Gentoo than any other OS anymore.
A couple of my friends and I use Gentoo as do our servers. With one central server the setup works well and keeps us all up to date with minimal compiling. From my "real world" standpoint it works very, very well. I even keep my mom's laptop up to date this way without having to physically touch the thing.
Plus, once a machine is customized, just keep your
I have to hear the cracks around here about compile times all the time... but seriously, who cares? Do you really need the latest KDE the second the ebuild is ready? Start your updates and go to bed. it's very rare that anything isn't complete by the time I get up in the morning.
It's not for everyone, but as should be stated over and over, no distro is nor should every distro be. All I'm saying is that "real world" is a very relative term and for my real world Gentoo is my choice and besides... I think it's fun. I used to be a Slackware fiend so maybe that explains my problem.
You're focusing on the wrong part of the story. I wasn't speaking out against evolution specifically. I was just saying that I'm tired of people trying to pass it off as "proven fact." Scientists don't agree. They don't understand the method. They're working with what they have which really isn't a lot. I never even said it was wrong. I just said it is hardly proven.
Inductive reason tells me that the beauty and diversity of life is the product of a creative intelligence that may or may not have used the process of evolution to create that.
Your "evidence" for evolution being as it is is no less circumstantial than mine.
More important than anything else my point is simply that science is moving forward and will move forward. We've hardly scratched the surface and even with the particle of understanding of the universe we possess there are people are out there going, "That's it. We solved it. It's fact." When it isn't.
And you know another thing, incorrect theories lead to correct ones. Evolution, in the history books, may end up being written off as a mistake of man that lead to something greater. Darwin didn't have the tools we have now and his idea of evolution is certainly not what we have today. I don't believe what we have today will be what we have tomorrow.
I believe in God but that also doesn't instantly make me some kind of Biblical fundamentalist. I'm not attempting to stop scientific theory. I'm not opposed to any findings. I mean hell, I love computers. I'd be pretty bummed if not for science, you know?
It's a good thing we also have diversity of thought just as we have diversity of life, so don't tell me it's sad that people think as I do just because I don't agree with your acceptance of evolution. I'm not telling you not to believe. Geez.
That I think what things? That theory masquerading as fact should be called such? That the word "faith" should be applied to ALL parties who use it.
I believe in God, but I certainly don't cling to a literal belief in a six day creation or other such rubbish. However, I wasn't present for the creation of the world so all I am capable of doing is having faith that those freaks are wrong.
As humans we cannot even define our own reality. We cannot prove our own existence outside of our own minds. I BELIEVE I'm not living in some construct similar to "The Matrix" but how can any of us prove otherwise? I certainly don't believe that, but honestly... what proof do we have?
I like to think I'm a man of science and in my mind circumstantial evidence points to the existence of God. I'm not throwing my religion in other people's face or saying, "THIS IS HOW IT IS! IT IS FACT NOT FAITH!" I'm not closed to new ideas either. However, most of what I take for granted is built on the limited perceptions of "educated" people whose opinions I trust.
My entire post was simply asking that the kettle be called black. That's all.
Of course maybe you're a pro-creationist nutjob who is angry at me for not being a "believer" too.
I think it's scarier that there are tens of millions of people like yourself who are unwilling to talk and too quick to label. (Yes, I labeled pro-creationist nutjobs one paragraph above, deal with it.)
The problem is that's it's faith, i.e. you just believe it with no basis in provable (or testable) fact.
And is evolution any different? Or any science for that matter? How many of us here can really prove much of anything. Some people have faith in scientists telling them, "Hey this is how it works." Some people turn to religion for the same thing.
We all have faith in something and while science often takes more steps of proof than religion, our understanding of the universe is, at best, a black box. We have a theory, we throw some values into it and sometimes we get the results we figured we'd get.
We're tiny primates in a large, cold and mysterious universe that have barely scratched the surface of anything and for every one discovery that tells us we're on the right track there's two that tell us that perhaps it is time to rethink everything.
I've never seen at atom. I have faith that they exist. I've never been to Africa. It's existence is based on my faith in maps and pictures, but given the I rarely leave my home state those pictures could be from anywhere.
Intelligent design is no more faith than Darwinian evolution.
Intelligent Design: Look, there's a bunch of circumstantial evidence that says these complicated biological machines cannot be the product of choas. Some kind of intelligence much have been involved. Look at other systems in human life.
Evolution: Look, there's a bunch of circumstantial evidence that says these complicated biological machines came about by gradual change in nature. It was all random and we're not even sure about all the details but if we look at some historical evidence, it agrees.
Gimme a break. "Scientists" can't even agree and evolution, as it stands, is still full of holes. I don't care if people believe in it. I don't care if people believe in creationism. I just get real tired of the evolutionist camp making these ridiculous claims that their idea doesn't require faith. The only belief system that does not require faith is an agnostic view. If you don't care, you don't need faith.
Evolution is a theory. It's not an answer. It's got a lot of holes that may or may not be plugged. In a lot of people's minds it is the best answer out there. Great. Wonderful. It's still faith. It's still a black box. Our science 100 year ago was a joke by today's standards. In 100 more years, today will be a joke. These searches lead us the greater discoveries and understanding. That is the best part of science. The worst part is people taking an uncompleted puzzle and pushing it on everyone else and calling it "complete" and "provable" as opposed "faith" as it is.
What on earth are you talking about and what kind of crack are you smoking? The emu10k1 is one of the (if not THE) best supported sound card in the world of Linux. I still use it instead of the 25 million channel audio built onto my board because the audio quality is just better (as in no pops and skips).
Look here.
CMedia 8738 cards work very well too and I use one of those on my other box but please... don't knock emu10k1 cards in Linux because you've got to be complete retard not to get them working.
I remember when I was first trying to get into Linux on the desktop. I had my Win2k machine which had all my newest hardware, my big monitor, my favorite keyboard, etc. It was a Duron 750 with 256M of RAM.
I had Slackware running Gnome 1.4 on the other machine because I was really interested in Ximian Evolution. I used it for my email but, for the most part, was unimpressed. "This is slow!" Blah, blah, blah...
It was such an amazing experience when I finally just set up a dual booting system and everything was so much faster and nicer to work with. I brought that up because I was amused reading about your friends putting Linux on older boxes because it reminded me of my frustration that was really dumb on my part.
I finally "went commando" (the day my machine stopped dual booting) and have been happy with my setup ever since.
Anyway, these memory debates are usually silly and flawed because apples usually aren't compared to apples.
Vector Linux. It's based off Slackware and I've had a fair amount of luck with it on slower machines. That's also its aim.
Gentoo works well too in certain circumstances. I have a powerful machine that compiles generic packages and I install over the network on my slower machines. When I say "slower" I mean old PIIs. There's not much of a reason (for me) to keep anything older around. The performance in those cases is also acceptable. This is a really poor option for someone who *only* has a slow computer though.
These memory debates get old pretty fast. WindowsXP doesn't run that great with less than 256M of RAM. It runs okay with 128, but then again so does my laptop running KDE 3.3. Not great, but acceptable. (OpenOffice is ass slow to start up on pretty much any platform.) The reality is that hardware is getting faster and memory is getting fatter. I want Gnome and KDE devs to design around modern systems... not dinosaurs.
Anyway, the days of Linux on older machines aren't over. Vector with XFce4 run wonderfully. Start up times can be slow, but once things are running performance is pretty good. It's not great, but if you're expecting "great" on old machines... stop. It's silly.
When all else fails there's FVWM or console apps.
Although, I did really enjoy the Clone Wars cartoon miniseries. Maybe I'm simple minded, but if there's a weekly show that ends in a lightsaber duel every single time it airs, I could give a rat's ass about the rest of the content.
Five words: Knights of the Old Republic.
As far as I'm concerned it's the best thing to come out of Star Wars since the original movies. I can't say my disappointment was wiped away or anything, but... the game was just awesome and with a sequel coming out... I've just decided that games like that are where I'll have to live out the rest of my Star Wars dreams. That and bad fan fiction.
That and the ending with the old guy in the shop who was fixing the gun was worth the whole thing.
Yeah, seriously... WTF was the point of that movie? I was repairing my dad's computer one night. His HD was dying and I was doing a Ghost of it when that movie came on.
I kept hoping the movie eventually came to some sort of resolution or something or explained the point or... SOMETHING! Nope. Nothing. Mind you the nudity makes it a better movie than the second Mortal Kombat movie, but not by much. (All it would have taken is the use of the word "Animality" in Eyes Wide Shut to make it worse.)
Is there a fucking guide somewhere that says, "Hey, here's why spacial rocks and here's how to use it effectively."
Although having to have a manual sort of defeats the goal of simplicity. Like you, I can't imagine guys this talented thought such a BLATANTLY BAD IDEA was a good thing. Am I missing something?
I keep hearing, "Gnome is easier" but the fact that I have to open up the gConf editor just to turn that ridiculous, annoying, FUCKING RETARDED default off is insanity.
Is there a guide? Can someone here that's not sounding like a Gnome salesman explain the spacial thing to me?
(I'm a dual pane junkie myself.)
Maybe it's just because I know what I'm doing, but can you tell me which is "easier" for the normal user. Editing gConf (since I had to for a lot of trivial changes because the option wasn't available) or going to the control center. Seriously, KDE is a cakewalk. I fail to see how Gnome is any easier. You click an icon, you get a program and you don't have to deal with that God forsaken, frustrating spacial file manager.
(And PS, I really liked the way gConf was laid out so I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying, there were a number of times that people would say, "Oh yeah, there's no option, just go into gConf." Which is fine, I'm cool with that, but humble users wouldn't be.)
I preferred Gnome in the 1.4 vs. KDE 2.x days. However, KDE has been my primary desktop since the 3.x series. I've tried Gnome 2, 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 and when 2.8 comes out I'll be trying it out too. I haven't found them any easier to use or focused.
And about a hundred other laws. My uncle is currently in Florida defending a guy who is in a similar boat and I gotta tell you, it's hilarious when the high and mighty IRS officials get on the stand.
"Well... I... I thought there was a law."
And seeing as I'm in the same boat on the Driver's license issue, what can I say?
This person does own an iPod and is gender neutral in the post so ("she" never calls "herself" a "she"):
Could be a gay gay: Check!
Anyway... as such, don't get TOO excited.
There is no control panel app that I'm aware of. I edit /etc files to set stuff up unless the given program has its own manager. Although emerge -Up world is REALLY nice. Suddenly, an entirely updated machine. (This is, of course, assuming you're a freak like that... which I am.)
/usr/portage/distfiles from one machine to another. That's where the source tarballs are stored. So you could go, do some emerge (and I think there's an option to only grab the sources, I believe it is --fetchonly) at the cafe and then bring those files back for compiling.
When you use emerge to compile a package you can have it make binary packages. Right now I do all the compiling on my desktop and then have my laptop use those packages (since it's much slower).
However, you can simple copy
Distcc, AFAIK is easy to set up although, as I said before, I prefer to compile binary packages on my fastest machine and use those for installing. (This is especially convenient since I almost always use my laptop anyway.) I complile i686 because I'm really not too interested in the extra 1% performance I might gain by compiling specifically P3 or Athlon (and my home machines are different architectures).
Anyway... that may or may not have been helpful. If you're interested in more info you can reach me at smilingbandit AT neo-anarchists.com
Yeah, it hasn't been the speed for me (seeing as I haven't noticed a difference anyway) but the ability to mess with the compile time options in a really, really convenient way.
/etc is managed are much cleaner than some other distros I used to use.
That I find that Gentoo's startup scripts and the way
First, let me make it clear that I have been an AMD fanboy since my 286. That being said...
10 GHz CPUs on the P4 Architecture.
And has the P4 architecture reached its limits? I remember in the early days of the P4 they said they thought it could scale up that far and it keeps climbing.
Socket Technology was at its maximum speed. The Slot was the only way to advance CPU technology.
Cache tightly coupled to the CPU was the new thing. At the time it was way too expensive to put cache on the chip. Pentium Pros did it (or something similar if I remember) but they also required you to sacrifice your first born.
AGP was needed due to the PCI bus not being able to continue advancements.
It was needed up until the point that higher performing video RAM become both cheap and available. The primary point of AGP was to allow the video card to use system RAM either instead of or in addition to onboard RAM. At the time the idea of video cards with 128 megs on board was absurd.
We do not need 64-bit desktops yet.
Do you? I'm running an Athlon XP 2000+ on my main machine and have had no compelling reason to upgrade in quite some time. I want an Athlon64 setup, but other than maybe increasing compile times, I can't think of anything else that I'm really going to notice. How much faster is my browser really going to go?
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This is stupid because as far as I know the processor power is there (all Intel is responsible for) and it's really an issue of software.
Some of these statements may have been short sighted (sockets and AGP) but in context they weren't lies.
Same here. With 512MB I have GAIM, FireFox, Konq, OpenOffice.org, JuK and a few other little apps running and my swap isn't even being touched.
Things look all right to me. 512MB of RAM never hurt anyone though!
I've found KDE 3.2 to be very snappy as well both on my AthlonXP 2000+/512MB RAM and my PIII 1GHz/512MB RAM. My Athlon box dual boots into Win2k which, for desktop use, seems quicker to me but primarily in start up times rather than using times.
Something else to add. KDE native apps are right in it with Windows, even sometimes in startup time. When I fire up The Gimp or (heaven forbid) Open Office, the startup times are just plain morbid and while it might only be perception, they seem slower too.
So if you want to compare apples to apples (KDE native apps and Windows apps) things are pretty close to on par. My preloaded Konq fires up about as fast as IE.
Gnome was pretty snappy too... as long as I wasn't loading KDE apps. That's the main area that I see speed/bloat issues is when I try to start loading up competing libraries.
But what can you do? Choice has its own set of problems and I'd rather have those than the problems created by a lack thereof. It'll come together as more time, my volunteers, more money and more users fall into place.
They've also embraced the added instructions, like SSE3 and such in a big hurry. I don't know if you read the whole interview but I found the end, the part about the securtity/encryption features that are supported only in the free software world and NOT by Windows to be one of the coolest parts.
I haven't read a comparison in some time, but if I remember these chips are fairly competetive for everyday use, but their floating point is kinda weak.
I remember their chips well. I actually read another interview with this guy years ago in Boot magazine (before they become Maximum PC). If you build "normal" PCs, then you may never have heard of them, but their products have always been available at Fry's.
I've been considering building a box or two using their parts because they're fanless and, on my Linux boxes, I don't need a lot in the way of power because they're office, web, email, text editing boxes. Hell, their 1GHz part is good enough to do a lot with.