I would agree with you. A naked body, in an of itself, is nothing but a naked body. In the case of art, many times it's admiring the human form - whether we're discussing the classical greek form, or finding beauty in a not-so-idealize example of the human race.
With that said, however, when a naked body moves into the realm of sex, it moves into something that is, and should be, private and intimate. Even aside from that, a 10 year old watching Cum Guzzling Gutter Sluts 4: Cum Garglers is probably about as appropriate as...well... honestly, that's probably one of the more non-violent inappropriate things ever.
There's a huge difference between admiring and respecting the human body and using the human body to elicit erotic reactions. Sex isn't bad, and it shouldn't be seen as being bad, but it should be seen as being intimate. Something done in relative privacy. Not something we all need to be seeing all the time. If we want to seek it out, as adults, then fine, that is our perogative. Showing that stuff on broadcast TV, for example, should be pretty much out of the question. That applies to the internet as well.
But to say that nudity, in all its forms, is wrong...well...that, to me, is much more offensive than a cooch ever could be. I don't cringe when I see a boob, a puss, or a wang. I'd much rather the first two, but I'm not going to die (and my morals aren't going to self-destruct and send me on a homicidal rampage either) if I see the latter. We, as a society, hide the human body and promote the idea that being unclothed is an atrocity to the point that it's truly an exercise in self-loathing. That's not healthy for the individual or the society. Erotic nudity should be restricted to mature adults - I agree. But non-sexual nudity should be an accepted part of our culture. And for those of you who may say that all nudity is sexual - when looking at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, do you form a tent in your pants? Is the first thing you think "woo! boobies! it's time to fuck!" Because, if so, it's possible you have some psychological problems that need to be attended to.
First off, it wasn't Apophis, it was Anubis. Secondly, the asteroid was made of Naquaada, which makes plutonium look like a firecracker. In this particular instance, blowing up the asteroid would destroy the entire solar system - not just the planet. Poof. Gone. Tau'ri problem solved.
Regardless, MacGyver's pseudo-woman decided to use the cargo ship they had to generate a hyperspace window around the entire asteroid and go through the planet, appearing on the other side and then letting this ball of certain doom to go about its merry way through the solar system and back out into the cosmos.
Unfortunate story, but when I was but a wee lad (read: 3 or 4), whenever we came back from our cabin in north-central PA, we would occassionally stop at a small bar. Anyway, I would constantly pester people for quarters so I could play exactly that song. Why? I don't know. My little cousin and I would run around like crazy monkeys whenever it came on.
Anyway, I remembered it a few years ago and downloaded it, just to reminisce. I was still living with my dad at the time and he just got real quiet and asked me to turn it off. It was rare for him to do this, so I asked why.
My father worked on a surface mine. When I was about 6 or 7, they were tearing down a silo. One of his best friends, who also worked with him, was singing that song earlier in the day trying to get my dad to cheer up about something stupid or another. Anyway, my dad walked away to get something out of the service truck, the silo collapsed, and when he ran back around, his friend was buried under a few tons of brick.
It doesn't, but having the memory controller on processor helps a lot. Look at the (gaming) benchmarks - you can see how the A64 beats the living hell out of anything Intel offers.
As I said, I'm a gamer - that's where AMD excels. I believe the Intels are still faster in encoding and 3d rendering, and possibly in business applications as well. I don't rip enough CDs to notice the encoding, I haven't touched Maya since college, and my home computer is NOT used for "business" applications which would really take advantage of something like this. Unless you count the 3ns speed increase in starting Thunderbird.
In all honesty, I would as well. It would initially probably be tri-boot (Windows and Gentoo being the other options), but maybe with time it would phase Gentoo out. The only reason I keep window is because I am, first and foremost, a gamer. In fact, aside from that, music, email, chat, and webpages, I would have virtually no use for my PC. I suppose the XP box could double as a foot warmer in the winter, but..
Aside from the "should be" aspect of his question, he brings up a valid point. Do you honestly believe your kids have never seen a titty before they turned 18?
Of course not. That's utterly ridiculous. I can only speak for the male sex, but, as a general rule, by around the age of 11 or 12, we start actively pursuing any and all chances of seeing a boob or a cooch. That whole hormonal thing kicking in. And guess what? As I'm sure you remember, we're awfully good at finding ways of seeing it.
That isn't to say we should accept it at a young age, of course, but really; 17 years old is a bit late to still be trying to protect your child from seeing sex. Obviously you can decide to do whatever you want when it comes to raising your child, but I would imagine still attempting to screen them utterly from sex at the age of 17 is a bit irresponsible in and of itself. That's probably the time you should be talking about it and enforcing the ideas of safe sex (perhaps with abstinence, if you so choose). Actually, it's probably a little late for that. But even so, if you can see a breast in the movies at the age of 17 (NC-17 - Showgirls, for example), then you should probably be able to see a pixelated polygon representation of a breast too.
They should not legally be allowed to tell you that you cannot modify their TV to play whatever it is that you want. Technically, they can try their hardest, and good luck to them, but the fact that we're even thinking of making it illegal for the owner of a product to not do with it as they wish is terrifying. What next, screwdriver or wrench manufacturers suing the end user for using their product as a (bad) hammer?
Um...no they don't? They can before sale, but after I buy it, it's mine, and I control what is played on it. If I want to make it work with an 8-track, that's my perogative. If I want it to double as a miniature lawmower (don't ask how), I'll fucking do it. Why? Because it is mine. That's what happens when you buy things.
The 64bit war for the desktop will be long and hardfought. I don't think they lost, just suffered a tremendous setback. That happens sometimes.
Don't get me wrong, as a gamer, I want the highest gaming performance, and AMD is my chosen one. I don't particularly care for Intel. But to write them off already is a bit silly (imo).
As an aside, but, the new logitech mice with the sensitivity switching SUCK!
I game an awful lot, and I've gotten used to not using them. I'm sure they may help some users, but I don't _truly_ see the need. What I WOULD like, however, is to map those extra buttons into something else. I have an MX518 and the fact that I have 3 extra buttons that I can't use for anything just irritates me.
Would it be so hard for them to give me the option to disable that stuff entirely and map those buttons as Mouse 6, 7, and 8? THAT is something I would love. Hell, I'd probably buy a second one, just to show them how much I love them.
Perhaps the argument doesn't apply, perhaps it does. I generalized even more than goldspider did. MAYBE it's only "slavery" when charity is coerced. The others are completely fine. But if so, my question is "why"? Why is charity the only act that, with coercion, becomes slavery? Why not any act that is coerced becoming slavery?
I would tend to agree, he merely chose a poor word. Someone else picked a better one - extortion. Taxation may also suffice (if properly qualified). But that's the whole point of my argument. If being coerced into doing charitable deeds makes one a slave, then so does being coerced into doing _anything_, even if it's as mundane as "taking out the garbage".
Then again, even as extortion, it's still a question of degree. Though, I would say, the boundaries on extortion are much closer together than such open ended boundaries on the aboved stated 'definition' of slavery.
I don't know that they did something "good" because they wanted to do good, but, as you said, they did the only thing they could with the money. I don't fault them for that. Doing good for society does not always have to be altruistic.
As you stated, Microsoft does many things for charity. The man we all love to hate, Bill, has done more for charity than all of us would ever be able to do, even if we took all of our gross income and combined it and just gave it away. Just because we dislike their business practices as a whole, just because we hate their rhetoric, just because we hate their products - it doesn't mean everything they do is wrong or evil. Let's applaud them for the good things they do - believe me, we'll have more than enough opportunities to flame them (more than likely this very day!)
"You, in specific, were using charity, but there is no reason that anything compelled through coersion or threat won't be a nice name for slavery."
My apologies for any confusion.
(I fucking hate this "It's been 4 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment" bullshit. I've had it go up to 34 minutes before. Maybe it'll work if I post this using the-cloak.com;x)
I know, I was expanding the argument. If charity can be used, so can anything else. You, in specific, were using charity, but there is no reason that anything that is compelled through coersion or threat is a nice name for slavery. And maybe that's true, but, again, it's a question of degree. And, frankly, if we're all slaves, then it's only the truly horrific degrees that I will concern myself with - everything else is relatively inconsequential.
That's a little over the top, isn't it? To me, it implies only charity, when compelled through coersion or threat, is a nice word for slavery. What about _anything_ else that is compelled through coersion or threat? Wouldn't those be other nice words for slavery? Is a parent who insists his/her child puts their toys away after playing with them a slave owner? Is the child then a slave? What about being told to keep the noise down in my apartment? Am I now a slave because my neighbors demand quiet at 3am?
If so, I say the word "slavery" has no meaning. Everyone on the planet is then a slave, in one way or another. Progressing through this argument further, if everyone is a slave, then surely it's a question of degree. Can you honestly say "forcing someone to give 3$ to the United Way" is anything like being kidnapped, chained up aboard a ship, taken to a new land, sold to the highest bidder, forced into labor (possibly sexual), beaten or whipped when performance is not living up to expectations, and then cast aside when they no longer serve a purpose? This still happens even today. Are they both slavery? Possibly. Are they close in terms of degree? I would say no, not even fucking remotely.
Normally I'd agree, but "dick-in-hand"??? This guy is so repressed he probably sits down to pee just so he doesn't have to look at his own penis.
It's sex, not the end of the fucking world.
"Mass murder". "Genocide". "Sex".
How in the world does the last word bother you MORE than the first two? Does a female orgasm really send you into such a fit that you not only feel the compulsion to stop coming here, but also to post about it? Is fucking REALLY that juvenile to you?
How about you sit down, take a few breaths, and fucking relax, alright? It's alright. You're not the only one with completely ridiculous priorities in this world.
Not that I'm saying the GP is right (because I honestly have no idea:] ), but I would guess the designs for the shuttle began well before the program started.
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I would agree with you. A naked body, in an of itself, is nothing but a naked body. In the case of art, many times it's admiring the human form - whether we're discussing the classical greek form, or finding beauty in a not-so-idealize example of the human race.
With that said, however, when a naked body moves into the realm of sex, it moves into something that is, and should be, private and intimate. Even aside from that, a 10 year old watching Cum Guzzling Gutter Sluts 4: Cum Garglers is probably about as appropriate as...well... honestly, that's probably one of the more non-violent inappropriate things ever.
There's a huge difference between admiring and respecting the human body and using the human body to elicit erotic reactions. Sex isn't bad, and it shouldn't be seen as being bad, but it should be seen as being intimate. Something done in relative privacy. Not something we all need to be seeing all the time. If we want to seek it out, as adults, then fine, that is our perogative. Showing that stuff on broadcast TV, for example, should be pretty much out of the question. That applies to the internet as well.
But to say that nudity, in all its forms, is wrong...well...that, to me, is much more offensive than a cooch ever could be. I don't cringe when I see a boob, a puss, or a wang. I'd much rather the first two, but I'm not going to die (and my morals aren't going to self-destruct and send me on a homicidal rampage either) if I see the latter. We, as a society, hide the human body and promote the idea that being unclothed is an atrocity to the point that it's truly an exercise in self-loathing. That's not healthy for the individual or the society. Erotic nudity should be restricted to mature adults - I agree. But non-sexual nudity should be an accepted part of our culture. And for those of you who may say that all nudity is sexual - when looking at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, do you form a tent in your pants? Is the first thing you think "woo! boobies! it's time to fuck!" Because, if so, it's possible you have some psychological problems that need to be attended to.
Really? So Michaelangelo's David would be off-limits to your child?
No wonder our culture has no sense of taste...
First off, it wasn't Apophis, it was Anubis. Secondly, the asteroid was made of Naquaada, which makes plutonium look like a firecracker. In this particular instance, blowing up the asteroid would destroy the entire solar system - not just the planet. Poof. Gone. Tau'ri problem solved.
Regardless, MacGyver's pseudo-woman decided to use the cargo ship they had to generate a hyperspace window around the entire asteroid and go through the planet, appearing on the other side and then letting this ball of certain doom to go about its merry way through the solar system and back out into the cosmos.
Oooo, I didn't even notice that subtle difference. Whoops, my bad! :]
Unfortunate story, but when I was but a wee lad (read: 3 or 4), whenever we came back from our cabin in north-central PA, we would occassionally stop at a small bar. Anyway, I would constantly pester people for quarters so I could play exactly that song. Why? I don't know. My little cousin and I would run around like crazy monkeys whenever it came on.
:]
Anyway, I remembered it a few years ago and downloaded it, just to reminisce. I was still living with my dad at the time and he just got real quiet and asked me to turn it off. It was rare for him to do this, so I asked why.
My father worked on a surface mine. When I was about 6 or 7, they were tearing down a silo. One of his best friends, who also worked with him, was singing that song earlier in the day trying to get my dad to cheer up about something stupid or another. Anyway, my dad walked away to get something out of the service truck, the silo collapsed, and when he ran back around, his friend was buried under a few tons of brick.
Completely off topic, of course. Mod at will.
It doesn't, but having the memory controller on processor helps a lot. Look at the (gaming) benchmarks - you can see how the A64 beats the living hell out of anything Intel offers.
As I said, I'm a gamer - that's where AMD excels. I believe the Intels are still faster in encoding and 3d rendering, and possibly in business applications as well. I don't rip enough CDs to notice the encoding, I haven't touched Maya since college, and my home computer is NOT used for "business" applications which would really take advantage of something like this. Unless you count the 3ns speed increase in starting Thunderbird.
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In all honesty, I would as well. It would initially probably be tri-boot (Windows and Gentoo being the other options), but maybe with time it would phase Gentoo out. The only reason I keep window is because I am, first and foremost, a gamer. In fact, aside from that, music, email, chat, and webpages, I would have virtually no use for my PC. I suppose the XP box could double as a foot warmer in the winter, but..
Aside from the "should be" aspect of his question, he brings up a valid point. Do you honestly believe your kids have never seen a titty before they turned 18?
Of course not. That's utterly ridiculous. I can only speak for the male sex, but, as a general rule, by around the age of 11 or 12, we start actively pursuing any and all chances of seeing a boob or a cooch. That whole hormonal thing kicking in. And guess what? As I'm sure you remember, we're awfully good at finding ways of seeing it.
That isn't to say we should accept it at a young age, of course, but really; 17 years old is a bit late to still be trying to protect your child from seeing sex. Obviously you can decide to do whatever you want when it comes to raising your child, but I would imagine still attempting to screen them utterly from sex at the age of 17 is a bit irresponsible in and of itself. That's probably the time you should be talking about it and enforcing the ideas of safe sex (perhaps with abstinence, if you so choose). Actually, it's probably a little late for that. But even so, if you can see a breast in the movies at the age of 17 (NC-17 - Showgirls, for example), then you should probably be able to see a pixelated polygon representation of a breast too.
They should not legally be allowed to tell you that you cannot modify their TV to play whatever it is that you want. Technically, they can try their hardest, and good luck to them, but the fact that we're even thinking of making it illegal for the owner of a product to not do with it as they wish is terrifying. What next, screwdriver or wrench manufacturers suing the end user for using their product as a (bad) hammer?
Um...no they don't? They can before sale, but after I buy it, it's mine, and I control what is played on it. If I want to make it work with an 8-track, that's my perogative. If I want it to double as a miniature lawmower (don't ask how), I'll fucking do it. Why? Because it is mine. That's what happens when you buy things.
The 64bit war for the desktop will be long and hardfought. I don't think they lost, just suffered a tremendous setback. That happens sometimes.
Don't get me wrong, as a gamer, I want the highest gaming performance, and AMD is my chosen one. I don't particularly care for Intel. But to write them off already is a bit silly (imo).
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As an aside, but, the new logitech mice with the sensitivity switching SUCK!
I game an awful lot, and I've gotten used to not using them. I'm sure they may help some users, but I don't _truly_ see the need. What I WOULD like, however, is to map those extra buttons into something else. I have an MX518 and the fact that I have 3 extra buttons that I can't use for anything just irritates me.
Would it be so hard for them to give me the option to disable that stuff entirely and map those buttons as Mouse 6, 7, and 8? THAT is something I would love. Hell, I'd probably buy a second one, just to show them how much I love them.
Perhaps the argument doesn't apply, perhaps it does. I generalized even more than goldspider did. MAYBE it's only "slavery" when charity is coerced. The others are completely fine. But if so, my question is "why"? Why is charity the only act that, with coercion, becomes slavery? Why not any act that is coerced becoming slavery?
I would tend to agree, he merely chose a poor word. Someone else picked a better one - extortion. Taxation may also suffice (if properly qualified). But that's the whole point of my argument. If being coerced into doing charitable deeds makes one a slave, then so does being coerced into doing _anything_, even if it's as mundane as "taking out the garbage".
Then again, even as extortion, it's still a question of degree. Though, I would say, the boundaries on extortion are much closer together than such open ended boundaries on the aboved stated 'definition' of slavery.
I don't know that they did something "good" because they wanted to do good, but, as you said, they did the only thing they could with the money. I don't fault them for that. Doing good for society does not always have to be altruistic.
As you stated, Microsoft does many things for charity. The man we all love to hate, Bill, has done more for charity than all of us would ever be able to do, even if we took all of our gross income and combined it and just gave it away. Just because we dislike their business practices as a whole, just because we hate their rhetoric, just because we hate their products - it doesn't mean everything they do is wrong or evil. Let's applaud them for the good things they do - believe me, we'll have more than enough opportunities to flame them (more than likely this very day!)
Sigh, I meant:
;x)
"You, in specific, were using charity, but there is no reason that anything compelled through coersion or threat won't be a nice name for slavery."
My apologies for any confusion.
(I fucking hate this "It's been 4 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment" bullshit. I've had it go up to 34 minutes before. Maybe it'll work if I post this using the-cloak.com
I know, I was expanding the argument. If charity can be used, so can anything else. You, in specific, were using charity, but there is no reason that anything that is compelled through coersion or threat is a nice name for slavery. And maybe that's true, but, again, it's a question of degree. And, frankly, if we're all slaves, then it's only the truly horrific degrees that I will concern myself with - everything else is relatively inconsequential.
That's a little over the top, isn't it? To me, it implies only charity, when compelled through coersion or threat, is a nice word for slavery. What about _anything_ else that is compelled through coersion or threat? Wouldn't those be other nice words for slavery? Is a parent who insists his/her child puts their toys away after playing with them a slave owner? Is the child then a slave? What about being told to keep the noise down in my apartment? Am I now a slave because my neighbors demand quiet at 3am?
If so, I say the word "slavery" has no meaning. Everyone on the planet is then a slave, in one way or another. Progressing through this argument further, if everyone is a slave, then surely it's a question of degree. Can you honestly say "forcing someone to give 3$ to the United Way" is anything like being kidnapped, chained up aboard a ship, taken to a new land, sold to the highest bidder, forced into labor (possibly sexual), beaten or whipped when performance is not living up to expectations, and then cast aside when they no longer serve a purpose? This still happens even today. Are they both slavery? Possibly. Are they close in terms of degree? I would say no, not even fucking remotely.
Normally I'd agree, but "dick-in-hand"??? This guy is so repressed he probably sits down to pee just so he doesn't have to look at his own penis.
It's sex, not the end of the fucking world.
"Mass murder". "Genocide". "Sex".
How in the world does the last word bother you MORE than the first two? Does a female orgasm really send you into such a fit that you not only feel the compulsion to stop coming here, but also to post about it? Is fucking REALLY that juvenile to you?
How about you sit down, take a few breaths, and fucking relax, alright? It's alright. You're not the only one with completely ridiculous priorities in this world.
Not that I'm saying the GP is right (because I honestly have no idea :] ), but I would guess the designs for the shuttle began well before the program started.
Bad habit.
:(
Shouldn't they be bellowing "Oh Yeah!"????
So....make two lead plates on each side, then?
;D)
(I'm just being silly, don't mind me
What do we currently have for unmanned, heavy cargo boosters that would be a viable replacement for the shuttle? I was under the impression we don't have much of anything - which is why people were shitting bricks over the ISS problems.
What would be a viable option for heavy cargo?