Perhaps LaTeX is not difficult to learn but in order for this to be a viable solution, the person has to be willing to learn it. Why would they learn such a wonderful, powerful language when they can use a half-assed tool in Windows? As silly as that sounds, when I worked for a University, that was pretty much the response. Granted, I didn't exactly work for the sharpest Profs...
Everytime someone on/. brings up document formats there are always people that say "LaTeX is the way to go, everything else sucks." While I agree that LaTeX is a great way to go there are many things, in my opinion, wrong with suggesting it especially in this situation:
1. The professors are obviously not thinking this out as it is (maybe not having the time?) and you expect them to learn LaTeX AND rewrite their lecture notes? Maybe they only do new suff but (a) that doesn't solve the posters problem and (b) they'll need a TA for sure... old dog new trick sort of thing
2. It doesn't really apply here because the document already exist and if you (the poster) want it in LaTeX, guess who they're going to ask to do it? And a couple of hunderd dollars is not going to buy you enough intern-time to re-do all the lecture notes in LaTeX.
3. People want their GUI's... expecially profs. As an aside, are there any good/easy-to-use layout apps. that output good, clean LaTeX? Not sure what is the point by then, but are there any?
I would have to say that if this company is (a) having a large meeeting in an outdoor area (b) Has some sort of need for a wireless network (c) Plans on using computers for that wireless network... then their faces would be jsut a little red if they made the mistake of choosing a campground that had no power. Not that I wouldn't put it past them, but hopefully they were smart enough to figure that one out
It does... and that's because the PPC was designed around that idea. However, the grandparent's post was stating the the x86 running PPC was crawling (which it was) but fails to mention that Bochs on a PPC running x86 was probably pretty slow as well. However, VirtualPC seems to be pretty spiffy on a Mac.
I have actually seen them use part of my "submission" in conjunction with others. Of course, as you point out, only the actual submitter gets the points.
As much as that was probably supposed to be a joke, it is the very first thing I thought of when I first saw "moblog." I thought maybe the local mafia's were getting sloppy and accidentally posting the books on the internet or something...
I just knew someone would reply like this but I didn't want to type too much in the original post which is why my last sentence says "as much as".. I never did say you could totally trust.
You just gotsta draw the line somewhere though or you'll end of a conspiracy theor...
In the parent post's defense, you can almost always get the source code from the "source" or author. However, sometimes you rely on some other guy to produce a.deb or.rpm or whatever which you might not trust as much as the author.
I almost always trust packages from the vendor and the distro and only trust "3rd party" packages when there's been tons of anecdotal evidence that they work.
I agree. In fact I have arklinux intsalled (props to the.sig). It's getting it installed in the first place that they don't get. Unless, of course, MFGs start releasing more desktops with nice desktop distros pre-installed.
I don't buy in to that for a couple reasons:
(a) MS Project is not part of MS Office
(b) Why didn't crossover "office" (emphasis on the office) then support all other Microsoft products known to man? Visio? VS.Net? Microsoft Bob (that would be funny)
In fact here is some anecdotal evidence that proves nothing (but it looks like some people were succesful some not...). They also mention the WABI app in getting MS Project to work under Linux...
View it here
Why would that be? I thought Crossover Office was specific to products and will not work outside of it's "list" . However, Wine has no such restrictions and will always do it's best to work with any app you through at it.
Oh man. Where are my mod points. Every time I read his column I start getting the damn tune to "Bridge over Troubled water..." I don't even know (or like) that song that well.
No offense, but I am glad you got credit for stating the obvious (no joke here). Sometimes the obvious is overlooked. I suppose it may be obvious to me as I work in a larg corporation and get to see this crap day-in-day-out.
Unfortunately, the "open" world gets to see letters artfully crafted by the PR department while inside employees get to see the CEOs and management writing memos. It ain't pretty...
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Perhaps LaTeX is not difficult to learn but in order for this to be a viable solution, the person has to be willing to learn it. Why would they learn such a wonderful, powerful language when they can use a half-assed tool in Windows? As silly as that sounds, when I worked for a University, that was pretty much the response. Granted, I didn't exactly work for the sharpest Profs...
Everytime someone on /. brings up document formats there are always people that say "LaTeX is the way to go, everything else sucks." While I agree that LaTeX is a great way to go there are many things, in my opinion, wrong with suggesting it especially in this situation:
... old dog new trick sort of thing
... expecially profs. As an aside, are there any good/easy-to-use layout apps. that output good, clean LaTeX? Not sure what is the point by then, but are there any?
1. The professors are obviously not thinking this out as it is (maybe not having the time?) and you expect them to learn LaTeX AND rewrite their lecture notes? Maybe they only do new suff but (a) that doesn't solve the posters problem and (b) they'll need a TA for sure
2. It doesn't really apply here because the document already exist and if you (the poster) want it in LaTeX, guess who they're going to ask to do it? And a couple of hunderd dollars is not going to buy you enough intern-time to re-do all the lecture notes in LaTeX.
3. People want their GUI's
I would have to say that if this company is ... then their faces would be jsut a little red if they made the mistake of choosing a campground that had no power. Not that I wouldn't put it past them, but hopefully they were smart enough to figure that one out
(a) having a large meeeting in an outdoor area
(b) Has some sort of need for a wireless network
(c) Plans on using computers for that wireless network
It does ... and that's because the PPC was designed around that idea. However, the grandparent's post was stating the the x86 running PPC was crawling (which it was) but fails to mention that Bochs on a PPC running x86 was probably pretty slow as well. However, VirtualPC seems to be pretty spiffy on a Mac.
And oh how fast THAT is... Bochs is slightly more mature than PearPC but let's hope they can learn from each other.
Then club yourself to death with your laptop and your giant Tesla coil.
I don't get it...
I blame it on the French ... or perhaps Latin .. need a damn gender for a toaster....
Nice to know that kollage edukashun paid off in the spelling department... DOH
Where's pigscanfly's missor (pimpin' his hosting business) when we need him? BTW, don't look at my sig ...
I have actually seen them use part of my "submission" in conjunction with others. Of course, as you point out, only the actual submitter gets the points.
As much as that was probably supposed to be a joke, it is the very first thing I thought of when I first saw "moblog." I thought maybe the local mafia's were getting sloppy and accidentally posting the books on the internet or something...
I just knew someone would reply like this but I didn't want to type too much in the original post which is why my last sentence says "as much as" .. I never did say you could totally trust.
You just gotsta draw the line somewhere though or you'll end of a conspiracy theor...
In the parent post's defense, you can almost always get the source code from the "source" or author. However, sometimes you rely on some other guy to produce a .deb or .rpm or whatever which you might not trust as much as the author.
I almost always trust packages from the vendor and the distro and only trust "3rd party" packages when there's been tons of anecdotal evidence that they work.
I agree. In fact I have arklinux intsalled (props to the .sig). It's getting it installed in the first place that they don't get. Unless, of course, MFGs start releasing more desktops with nice desktop distros pre-installed.
Easy for you ... easy for me ... try explaning the terms: apt-get, shell, kernel, etc. to my parents
I don't buy in to that for a couple reasons: (a) MS Project is not part of MS Office (b) Why didn't crossover "office" (emphasis on the office) then support all other Microsoft products known to man? Visio? VS.Net? Microsoft Bob (that would be funny) In fact here is some anecdotal evidence that proves nothing (but it looks like some people were succesful some not...). They also mention the WABI app in getting MS Project to work under Linux... View it here
Why would that be? I thought Crossover Office was specific to products and will not work outside of it's "list" . However, Wine has no such restrictions and will always do it's best to work with any app you through at it.
I assume grand-parent is referring to Ximian's Evolution: http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/
Have you tried using Wine to run MS Project on your Linux desktop?
Oh man. Where are my mod points. Every time I read his column I start getting the damn tune to "Bridge over Troubled water..." I don't even know (or like) that song that well.
I've always preferred:
while(1) fork();
No offense, but I am glad you got credit for stating the obvious (no joke here). Sometimes the obvious is overlooked. I suppose it may be obvious to me as I work in a larg corporation and get to see this crap day-in-day-out. Unfortunately, the "open" world gets to see letters artfully crafted by the PR department while inside employees get to see the CEOs and management writing memos. It ain't pretty...
NetBank has had this for quite a while. Never had any problems with them.
No! But the owner's of the credit card numbers you just stole may just have the gall to call in a fraud report.