Call me a sympathizer or whatever.... homeboy got elected.... and we want ot hold him to his election-day rhetoric... WTF? He didn't know he was going to have to deal with some of the shit he has been dealt!
Have you ever been hired for a job and found that what you signed on for is not EXACTLY what you thought you were signing on for?
The key to the, "My home is my castle" defense is that you KILL the burglar. IF you don't, and they can hire a creative defense.... you are fuxed on a civil liability beef.
OTOH: some states look at escalation of conflict.... if said burglar shows up without weapons, or even a knife you can't escalate the conflict by shooting the asshat without being held liable. So you fail anyway. Personally I think the law has been per muted to favor lawyering:/
nonsense.... any automated process for determining access and applying even a corporal form of punishment for failure to comply is liable..... FAIL.... I, for one to not want to live in a world full of land mines!
To wit:
WTF! If I am evading a criminal act of violence(say some asshole trying to strong arm me) and I flee via your property, should I be a victim to the automated defenses you have active? OR should I be allowed to pass unmolested?
Yes I trespassed! For good fuxing reason! And if you had been there to oversee your defensive array, YOU WOULD WITNESS THAT, and probably rally to my defense!
Yes! Because if I fail in my duty to define an equitable lease a State sanctioned boilerplate in WA that spells out what the minimum rights are for a rental agreement... no parasites.... er, lawyers required.... And if the lease doesn't meet that standard it's null and void.
Freaking... do your homework before you spout off!
Piss off. He was still a great man.... He didn't free the slaves, really, but he made the most of a really fucked up political environment..... if only he hadn't been killed by a no account patsy..... ah history.
In the real world though, having council *helps* prevent stupid mistakes.. IF one is to represent themselves.... all bets are off.... too close to the problem and all that..... Lincoln was a wise lawyer. And not too bad a president according to the history.
I think the medical tricorder companion was more like it....
It was also depected as being able to manipulate molecular structure as well.... IIRC that Bones had a number of nifty wand like gadgets in his house-call bag...
If I had been dishonest about the return number.... then there is no valid return number.... but if someone made a big deal... I'd kick that up stairs.... because I had an agenda..... that agenda was NOT being party to a suck!
In my call center that would get your number blocked.... our agents could flag a number for blocking... typically it was only used for inbound call campaigns.... but I did allow agents to flag hostile outbound callers which were recorded and later shared with the contractee.... in some cases to show that their campaign was FAIL! In a few cases I used tools the tele-cloud provided me to justify our termination of their campaign.... due to deceptive practices.... this was done on my initiative with two contracts that I later forced our fearless leader to terminate since I argued that we could be held liable for the client's malfeasance....
That didn't make me very popular with the executive staff since I was essentially taking revenue away from the call center.... The rank and file agents cheered my name.... and morale on the main floor was drastically improved when said campaigns were terminated.
Anyway.... I survived in that role for 18 months before I was ordered to resign....
You have a few interesting ideas there, but many of the tele-cloud call-center providers allow the CID string to be changed dynamically.... there is NO INCENTIVE for them to change this and no incentive for telecoms to provide blocking services as the tele-cloud providers pay the telecom charges and pass that on to the call-center, who passes that on to the campaign contractee...
Typically the contractee has NO association with the call-center other than an agreement to provide the campaign as designed.... and I can tell you from personal experience as an ex-Director of Ops for a call-center that often dealt with the technical aspects those contractees, and their deceptive campaigns..... they lie... they misrepresent themselves, and they wave lots of cash in front of the call-center owner(s) as incentive to execute on their bullshit campaigns... They also kick down incentives to the agents who close a deal on one of these calls..... IF the poor girl on the line COULD close one of these bullshit deals....
Sadly.... call-center managers wonder why they cant retain agents... gosh or even Directors very long..... and it's because no reasonable person wants to be subjected to legitimately hostile people for a significant percentage of their work day!!!
The tele-cloud providers commonly being used by modern call centers allow the admin to put any damn thing they want in the CID string for an outbound call flow.
I know, b/c I was the Director of Ops for a call center. I often was the one who put the string in the call-flow setup.
I think the carbon in limestone is actually carbon that used to be in CO2 in the atmosphere, since it's sedimentary rock.
That is a point I was exposed to almost 20 years ago. Between 3.5Bn and 2Bn years ago most of the oldest marble and limestone deposits were laid. These deposits are in a phrase, unfathomably huge.
It is believed that one of the first organisms that really took off as a runaway best-seller was a carboniferous blue-green algae that consumed CO2 and metal salts dissolved in the ocean for building blocks and converted IR radiation for energy. It is likely that the Sun wasn't visible much back then, so broadband solar radiation wasn't a direct source of light for the organism. Additionally the organism didn't have much use for oxygen so it's primary waste product was O2.
This little algae would shed it's calcium carbonate armor prior to cell-division thus binding up a small grain of Calcium Carbonate which fell to the ocean floor. There weren't any significant predators back then, and this process continued unabated for close to a billion years. During that time the ocean was gradually depleted of calcium (and other metal ions) and CO2. The CO2 was absorbed from the air. Metal ions were replenished by erosive processes on primordial land.
Eventually the massive populations of this algae died off, and there is evidence that a combination of two factors colluded to cause this first mass extinction:
1. Low CO2 levels in the atmosphere. 2. The first Ice Age caused by a lack of CO2 trapped in the atmosphere.
After a billion years or more of single handedly precipitating CO2 out of the ecosystem these single-celled organisms started dying off due to a lack of CO2. This set the stage for the first round of organisms that aspirated O2, ate blue-green algae. Interestingly a lot of that original calcium carbonate is still around, and will likely never be available to the carbon cycle again.
As for later carbon deposits.... oil, shale, coal.... It's likely that these deposits were created rather suddenly in some cases since they appear without intervening layers of sediment.... in other cases it's clear that there were long standing geological processes that were concentrating detritus (dead organic material) for many millions of years.... before they were capped with inorganic sediments. The geological record is riddled with evidence of sudden and often catastrophic GCC... Our 2 Million year slice of the record has been relatively calm.... and the last 100K years has been a relative cakewalk....
While I see concern for Global Climate Change in our economic future I have to say that I have no fear that it will extinguish life on this planet, or in any reasonable time frame extinguish humans.... the real question is what levels of loss will we suffer if we destabilize the environment to the degree that GCC advocates predict? And further: At what point in time will this Scythe of Doom have swing so far away from center that we will be unable to mitigate the return swing, or it's presumably devastating consequences?
None of the deniers, cranks, or scientists have any answers, or any solutions to these problems... and the political processes in the counties that contribute most to atmospheric CO2 are clearly not on a course to address the issue any time soon.
Either we will alter our consumption of organic fuels to reduce the supposed impact of increasing CO2 concentrations in the ecosystem, and forestal a renaissance of large, marginally warm-blooded reptiles two million years from now.... or we won't...
I replaced all my IBs with these gawd damned CFLs and turned off my winter heat.... don't use AC, and I am heading towards even more conservation.... *shrug....
Ultimately I believe we are no better off than the ill-fated blue-green algae that destroyed it's ecosystem ~2.5Bn years ago...
The current political climate might change.... it might not.... either way there will be dire consequences for many and a few well-positioned monkeys will get fantastically wealthy exploiting the rest....
The wheel turns, Civilizations Rise. The wheel turns, Civilizations fall. The wheel turns.
To draw on a very important truth with flying bullets.... and maybe nature as well
You don't hear the report until AFTER you have a gaping hole in your chest.
It seems that fate is not without a sense of irony.... it seems unlikely that we will perceive the bullet until it hits... I think this applies equally well to GCC and to PKAs....
One look at the ancient beaches 10 miles inland and 500 feet above the current beaches in Santa Cruz, kinda makes one wonder. Yes, Virginia, some of that was fairly recent tectonic up lift action, but not all of it.
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Call me a sympathizer or whatever.... homeboy got elected.... and we want ot hold him to his election-day rhetoric... WTF? He didn't know he was going to have to deal with some of the shit he has been dealt!
Have you ever been hired for a job and found that what you signed on for is not EXACTLY what you thought you were signing on for?
Get real!
And that is assuming you have the money and intestinal fortitude to see the case to the Supreme Court.
Shoot first ask questions later....
And then the grad jury decides.... if you kill a cop.... I doubt your castle law will protect you.
IANAL
I am truly sorry that you are under the mistaken fallacy that I can read your EULA. ....FAIL!
no I can't but maybe my wife can....
And I agree! My previous posts on this issue reflect that view.... rather directly....
I seek to point out the absurdities that are now being taken for granted...
And yet I refuse to get hoisted upon Hume's Guillotine,.... or his Fork.
in a sense it does because I can sue you for liability if I trip over your barbed fence on a drunken binge!
It doesn't seem to matter much that I was off my rocker, if I have a competent lawyer.
The key to the, "My home is my castle" defense is that you KILL the burglar. IF you don't, and they can hire a creative defense.... you are fuxed on a civil liability beef.
OTOH: some states look at escalation of conflict.... if said burglar shows up without weapons, or even a knife you can't escalate the conflict by shooting the asshat without being held liable. So you fail anyway. Personally I think the law has been per muted to favor lawyering :/
IANAL!
nonsense.... any automated process for determining access and applying even a corporal form of punishment for failure to comply is liable..... FAIL.... I, for one to not want to live in a world full of land mines!
To wit:
WTF! If I am evading a criminal act of violence(say some asshole trying to strong arm me) and I flee via your property, should I be a victim to the automated defenses you have active? OR should I be allowed to pass unmolested?
Yes I trespassed! For good fuxing reason! And if you had been there to oversee your defensive array, YOU WOULD WITNESS THAT, and probably rally to my defense!
Duh! IF I put traps on my own property and some fool is hurt y them I am liable....
Where is the nonsense? Man Trapping is fundamentally forbidden!
Now if only Generals in charge of armies would respect that....
Yes! Because if I fail in my duty to define an equitable lease a State sanctioned boilerplate in WA that spells out what the minimum rights are for a rental agreement... no parasites.... er, lawyers required.... And if the lease doesn't meet that standard it's null and void.
Freaking... do your homework before you spout off!
Piss off. He was still a great man.... He didn't free the slaves, really, but he made the most of a really fucked up political environment..... if only he hadn't been killed by a no account patsy..... ah history.
In the real world though, having council *helps* prevent stupid mistakes.. IF one is to represent themselves.... all bets are off.... too close to the problem and all that..... Lincoln was a wise lawyer.
And not too bad a president according to the history.
That's Lysdexics you insensitive clod!
If it requires plugging into a STD US A/C line I am not interested, but if it is running off D/C then we can talk.
Ya know if the kids around here knew what rot13 was this might be a good giggle for all...
Until the cool-aide get spiked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
I think the medical tricorder companion was more like it....
It was also depected as being able to manipulate molecular structure as well.... IIRC that Bones had a number of nifty wand like gadgets in his house-call bag...
If I had been dishonest about the return number.... then there is no valid return number.... but if someone made a big deal... I'd kick that up stairs.... because I had an agenda..... that agenda was NOT being party to a suck!
There's no accounting for asshats....
In my call center that would get your number blocked.... our agents could flag a number for blocking... typically it was only used for inbound call campaigns.... but I did allow agents to flag hostile outbound callers which were recorded and later shared with the contractee.... in some cases to show that their campaign was FAIL! In a few cases I used tools the tele-cloud provided me to justify our termination of their campaign.... due to deceptive practices.... this was done on my initiative with two contracts that I later forced our fearless leader to terminate since I argued that we could be held liable for the client's malfeasance....
That didn't make me very popular with the executive staff since I was essentially taking revenue away from the call center.... The rank and file agents cheered my name.... and morale on the main floor was drastically improved when said campaigns were terminated.
Anyway.... I survived in that role for 18 months before I was ordered to resign....
You have a few interesting ideas there, but many of the tele-cloud call-center providers allow the CID string to be changed dynamically.... there is NO INCENTIVE for them to change this and no incentive for telecoms to provide blocking services as the tele-cloud providers pay the telecom charges and pass that on to the call-center, who passes that on to the campaign contractee...
Typically the contractee has NO association with the call-center other than an agreement to provide the campaign as designed.... and I can tell you from personal experience as an ex-Director of Ops for a call-center that often dealt with the technical aspects those contractees, and their deceptive campaigns..... they lie... they misrepresent themselves, and they wave lots of cash in front of the call-center owner(s) as incentive to execute on their bullshit campaigns... They also kick down incentives to the agents who close a deal on one of these calls..... IF the poor girl on the line COULD close one of these bullshit deals....
Sadly.... call-center managers wonder why they cant retain agents... gosh or even Directors very long..... and it's because no reasonable person wants to be subjected to legitimately hostile people for a significant percentage of their work day!!!
The tele-cloud providers commonly being used by modern call centers allow the admin to put any damn thing they want in the CID string for an outbound call flow.
I know, b/c I was the Director of Ops for a call center. I often was the one who put the string in the call-flow setup.
You just spilled you guts on ways to subvert 'The Man' in a public forum.... now you are all going to be watched....
and soulskill..... I don't believe you.... not one bit.... I think you are baiting all the paranoids....
Good day! .... I said, GOOD DAY!
I think the carbon in limestone is actually carbon that used to be in CO2 in the atmosphere, since it's sedimentary rock.
That is a point I was exposed to almost 20 years ago. Between 3.5Bn and 2Bn years ago most of the oldest marble and limestone deposits were laid. These deposits are in a phrase, unfathomably huge.
It is believed that one of the first organisms that really took off as a runaway best-seller was a carboniferous blue-green algae that consumed CO2 and metal salts dissolved in the ocean for building blocks and converted IR radiation for energy. It is likely that the Sun wasn't visible much back then, so broadband solar radiation wasn't a direct source of light for the organism. Additionally the organism didn't have much use for oxygen so it's primary waste product was O2.
This little algae would shed it's calcium carbonate armor prior to cell-division thus binding up a small grain of Calcium Carbonate which fell to the ocean floor. There weren't any significant predators back then, and this process continued unabated for close to a billion years. During that time the ocean was gradually depleted of calcium (and other metal ions) and CO2. The CO2 was absorbed from the air. Metal ions were replenished by erosive processes on primordial land.
Eventually the massive populations of this algae died off, and there is evidence that a combination of two factors colluded to cause this first mass extinction:
1. Low CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
2. The first Ice Age caused by a lack of CO2 trapped in the atmosphere.
After a billion years or more of single handedly precipitating CO2 out of the ecosystem these single-celled organisms started dying off due to a lack of CO2. This set the stage for the first round of organisms that aspirated O2, ate blue-green algae. Interestingly a lot of that original calcium carbonate is still around, and will likely never be available to the carbon cycle again.
As for later carbon deposits.... oil, shale, coal.... It's likely that these deposits were created rather suddenly in some cases since they appear without intervening layers of sediment.... in other cases it's clear that there were long standing geological processes that were concentrating detritus (dead organic material) for many millions of years.... before they were capped with inorganic sediments. The geological record is riddled with evidence of sudden and often catastrophic GCC... Our 2 Million year slice of the record has been relatively calm.... and the last 100K years has been a relative cakewalk. ...
While I see concern for Global Climate Change in our economic future I have to say that I have no fear that it will extinguish life on this planet, or in any reasonable time frame extinguish humans.... the real question is what levels of loss will we suffer if we destabilize the environment to the degree that GCC advocates predict? And further: At what point in time will this Scythe of Doom have swing so far away from center that we will be unable to mitigate the return swing, or it's presumably devastating consequences?
None of the deniers, cranks, or scientists have any answers, or any solutions to these problems... and the political processes in the counties that contribute most to atmospheric CO2 are clearly not on a course to address the issue any time soon.
Either we will alter our consumption of organic fuels to reduce the supposed impact of increasing CO2 concentrations in the ecosystem, and forestal a renaissance of large, marginally warm-blooded reptiles two million years from now.... or we won't...
I replaced all my IBs with these gawd damned CFLs and turned off my winter heat.... don't use AC, and I am heading towards even more conservation.... *shrug....
Ultimately I believe we are no better off than the ill-fated blue-green algae that destroyed it's ecosystem ~2.5Bn years ago...
The current political climate might change.... it might not.... either way there will be dire consequences for many and a few well-positioned monkeys will get fantastically wealthy exploiting the rest....
The wheel turns,
Civilizations Rise.
The wheel turns,
Civilizations fall.
The wheel turns.
To draw on a very important truth with flying bullets.... and maybe nature as well
You don't hear the report until AFTER you have a gaping hole in your chest.
It seems that fate is not without a sense of irony.... it seems unlikely that we will perceive the bullet until it hits... I think this applies equally well to GCC and to PKAs....
One look at the ancient beaches 10 miles inland and 500 feet above the current beaches in Santa Cruz, kinda makes one wonder. Yes, Virginia, some of that was fairly recent tectonic up lift action, but not all of it.