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Microsoft Trying To Patent a 'Magic Wand'

theodp writes "Newly-disclosed USPTO documents show that Microsoft is seeking patent protection for a 'Magic Wand,' a device with various gizmos and sensors that can manipulate and interact with its environment, including video and holographic images, while using biometrics to connect with the user. 'Even the most pragmatic individual,' explains Microsoft, 'would have trouble arguing against the merits or utility of, say, a magic wand that actually worked to control or communicate with objects or components in an associated nearby environment.' No doubt. The inventors include CXO/CTO J Allard, and Sr. Researcher Andy Wilson."

157 comments

  1. It's called a Wii-mote! by jholder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wonder if they get into trouble with Nintendo.

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    -- John
    1. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Z00L00K · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And all other remote controls that already exists and has existed since "deity-knows-when".

      Even the director's wand at an orchestra is a form of remote. But not very advanced in itself.

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    2. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by The+Grim+Reefer2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think Disney should get involved in this. After all, they released a 9 minute demonstration of it in 1940.

    3. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by theeddie55 · · Score: 1

      Nikola Tesla patented the first remote control in 1898 http://www.google.com/patents?vid=613809 and after 111 years, this isn't going that much further.

    4. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Threemoons · · Score: 1

      Or Hitachi (google Hitachi Magic Wand...)

    5. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by redkcir · · Score: 2

      More likely it's ripping off these people. http://hackaday.com/2009/05/17/magic-wands-for-disney/ They released open source code for their project here. http://gitorious.org/fantasia

    6. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Apple can patent "multi-touch" I think Microsoft should be able to patent whatever they want.

    7. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Chazerizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Even the director's wand at an orchestra is a form of remote. But not very advanced in itself.

      The word you're looking for is "baton".

    8. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, it's more than a wii-mote. The question is how much more than the sum of the additions? I think that's a critical question.

      I'm wary of any kind of kitchen-sink approach to inventing. An invention should somehow be more than the sum of its parts, otherwise where's the originality? If you said, take a wii-mote and add this one specific element and now something qualitatively new becomes possible, then you'd have a good argument that you invented something. If you say, take a wii-mote and add everything you can think onto it, and gee, it does more than the original wii-mote, that's not very creative.

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    9. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Makes me think of police action...

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    10. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Reed+Solomon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even the director's wand at an orchestra is a form of remote. But not very advanced in itself.

      Ah, Music, A magic beyond all we do here at Hogwarts!

      Seriously though, I've long considered the idea of a so called "magic wand" as being the penultimate input device for a holographic mobile computer. second only to simple gestures in air.

      although in the meantime I'd be happy with embedded high definition video screens in normal looking glasses attached to the cell phone in my pocket perhaps with 3G/wifi.

    11. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by gadget+junkie · · Score: 1

      More likely it's ripping off these people. http://hackaday.com/2009/05/17/magic-wands-for-disney/ They released open source code for their project here. http://gitorious.org/fantasia

      that would make it "prior art", and even I do not think MS could be such a noob.

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    12. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft historically has had problem's with this part of their press-release:

      "that actually worked"

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    13. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by motorhead · · Score: 0

      Or sonic screwdriver

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    14. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nintendo did NOT invent motion control.
      Furthermore, Nintendio themselves licensed the technology for the wiimote from Gyration.
      Furthermore, there are at least 3 outfits out there that are currently selling the same motion control technology, who all developed their motion control technology before the Wiimote even came out.

    15. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boob.

    16. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 1

      Or Cornell?

      In 1998 I was given a demonstration of a virtual reality system at Cornell University, consisting of 3D glasses with head tracking support, two walls lit by projectors using polarized light, and what might be loosely described as a "magic wand" for interacting with the environment. I recall manipulating 3D windows by pointing with this wand.

    17. Re:It's called a Wii-mote! by redkcir · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be the first time, and won't be the last.

  2. Vas Flam! by GigaHurtsMyRobot · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have prior art, I was born with a magic wand!

    1. Re:Vas Flam! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Pffft, nice Short Sword, Hedwig.

    2. Re:Vas Flam! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
      I have prior art, I was born with a magic wand!

      Yes?

      And do you put on your robe and wizard hat before you use it?

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    3. Re:Vas Flam! by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Hey! It's a new millennium! Don't judge!

    4. Re:Vas Flam! by electrosoccertux · · Score: 1

      I have prior art, I was born with a magic wand!

      Yes?

      And do you put on your robe and wizard hat before you use it?

      In Harry Potter, if you replace "Wand" with "Wang", the results are hilarious.

      Bash.

    5. Re:Vas Flam! by bytta · · Score: 1

      I have prior art, I was born with a magic wand!

      That's wand with a D, not G...

  3. First result on search for "Magic Wand" by Moryath · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the first search result for "magic wand":

    http://www.amazon.com/Vibratex-HV-250R-Hitachi-Magic-Massager/dp/B00005M1WE

    I think MS needs to rethink their naming. I doubt this is what they have in mind. Besides, the Wii beat them to it in designing a controller that looks like a sex toy.

    1. Re:First result on search for "Magic Wand" by loutr · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think MS needs to rethink their naming. I doubt this is what they have in mind.

      Then again we're talking about the company whose CEO wants to squirt you pictures of his kids...

    2. Re:First result on search for "Magic Wand" by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think MS needs to rethink their naming.

      Wandows?
         

    3. Re:First result on search for "Magic Wand" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I vote 'Wangdows' as most men have a magical wand as well.

    4. Re:First result on search for "Magic Wand" by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      slashdotters' are not so magical.

    5. Re:First result on search for "Magic Wand" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Won't-do-those

      Wintendoze

  4. Prior Art by bit+trollent · · Score: 1

    The Magic Wand has been around for years.

    I can't believe that Microsoft is abusing the patent system.

    1. Re:Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd settle for a Wand of Wishing and wish Microsoft would go out of business. Things like this though might make the wish unnecessary.

    2. Re:Prior Art by donaldm · · Score: 1

      The Magic Wand has been around for years.

      I can't believe that Microsoft is abusing the patent system.

      You are right I can't believe that Microsoft would try to patent, copyright or even register words that have been around for a very long time, like "Office", "Word" or Windows" ... ?

      Err! never mind. :)

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    3. Re:Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You get a wand of wishing and you'll wish MS out of business instead of 20 supermodels?

      You win the supergeek of the century award.

  5. Away, varlet! by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    Microsoft is trying to pwn my Bluetooth trackball?

  6. Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by blahbooboo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Surely someone is going to point out the comparison to the original magic wand? I think this might prevent Micro$oft's patent as it came out in the 1970s??

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896630001

    1. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man, the customer reviews for that product are hilarious! "Worst mothers day ever" indeed!

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    2. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by s_p_oneil · · Score: 1

      Ok, why the heck is that on newegg?

    3. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Surely someone is going to point out the comparison to the original magic wand?

      You mean the one behind the fig leaf?

    4. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by inode_buddha · · Score: 1
      "You mean the one behind the fig leaf?"

      I use an air freshener, the type you hang in the rear-view mirror... modern times, you know?

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    5. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by Spazztastic · · Score: 1

      Ok, why the heck is that on newegg?

      And why the HECK did I click it at work!?

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    6. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SGI had this 15 years ago..

      This is just more stealth-marketing from the cockroaches

    7. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by kdemetter · · Score: 1

      * trying to remove mental picture of naked man with arbre magique from mind *

    8. Re:Don't forget the ORIGINAL Magic Wand! by EvilToiletPaper · · Score: 1

      You're getting pink underwear and fuzzy handcuffs from the sysadmin this Christmas ;)

  7. The Doctor called... by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Doctor called... He wants to have a word with them about his sonic screwdriver.

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    1. Re:The Doctor called... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Doctor? Doctor who?

  8. Sounds like a pickup line... by MyLongNickName · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ... "Hey, baby, want to see my magic wand?"

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    1. Re:Sounds like a pickup line... by Moryath · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on, there are so many better jokes for that.

      "Rod of Lordly Might" comes to mind...

    2. Re:Sounds like a pickup line... by fnj · · Score: 1

      "Magic wand" is now a synonym for "etchings."

    3. Re:Sounds like a pickup line... by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Hitachi already makes one and my girlfriend loves hers...

    4. Re:Sounds like a pickup line... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well of course sh

    5. Re:Sounds like a pickup line... by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      ...and my girlfriend loves hers...

      I stopped believing you somewhere around here ;-)

    6. Re:Sounds like a pickup line... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's pretty believable that he's so bad in bed that she needs a personal massager.

  9. It's called a universal remote by kawabago · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's time Microsoft stopped inventing things that already exist!

    1. Re:It's called a universal remote by Anivair · · Score: 1

      Right, but this one is BETTER because it can crash EVERYTHING you have! Even holographic images and your toaster can be crashed by this wand! it's now easier than ever to force a fatal error in your radio, tv, or refrigerator.

    2. Re:It's called a universal remote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft Surface Computer says "Hello".

  10. Sure, they can patent a magic wand, by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 4, Funny

    but they still can't use it to make Vista disappear.

    1. Re:Sure, they can patent a magic wand, by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful
      but they still can't use it to make Vista disappear.

      Maybe.

      But their magical marketing team has managed to transmogrify a thinly veiled facelift of it into the widely hyped Windows 7.

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    2. Re:Sure, they can patent a magic wand, by Tanman · · Score: 1

      I thought they already did that trick. I believe the incantation was "Presto Requirio Systemaximo!"

    3. Re:Sure, they can patent a magic wand, by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      and the drivers for it will be included in every Windows 7 install along with another Control Panel gadget, no doubt.

  11. let me be the first to say by popeye44 · · Score: 1, Funny

    RECTUMSEMPRA...

    which is either a spell from Harry Potter or Latin for Timely Assholes.

    Magic Wang Err wand.

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    1. Re:let me be the first to say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Levitatus Chairus!"

      "Developamus! Developamus! Developamus!"

    2. Re:let me be the first to say by jo42 · · Score: 1

      "Rectalus Expulsivus!"

  12. Prior art by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    a magic wand that actually worked to control or communicate with objects or components in an associated nearby environment.

    What about Wand of Levitation, Wand of Cold, Wand of Teleportation and Wand of Wonder?

    Once again, Microsoft is late to the game.

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  13. That could actually be fun by v1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Having something that operates a bit like a wii controller combined with a universal remote.

    Imagine pointing the wand at your receiver and giving an upward flitting motion and the receiver bumps up the volume. or flick to the right and it changes stations or goes to the next track. Twirl it in a circle clockwise to turn on or counterclockwise to turn off etc.

    And would only react to the device you point at. (might have to establish separate gestures for nearby components etc)

    I'd buy that.

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    1. Re:That could actually be fun by Random2 · · Score: 1

      I see it now: interactive porn. Flip the stick up for a thrust, roll it for a moan....

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    2. Re:That could actually be fun by ouimetch · · Score: 1

      I could see a lot of wrist flicking being a serious problem for older people or other people with arthritis. I'm not sure what Microsoft is trying to do with this, but a hunch tells me it isn't going to work out like they hope it will.

    3. Re:That could actually be fun by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Funny

      Combining the accuracy of the Wiimote with a gestural interface seems like a very bad idea.

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    4. Re:That could actually be fun by Xaoswolf · · Score: 1

      like all those o;d people playing Wii?

    5. Re:That could actually be fun by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      Having something that operates a bit like a wii controller combined with a universal remote.

      Imagine pointing the wand at your receiver and giving an upward flitting motion and the receiver bumps up the volume. or flick to the right and it changes stations or goes to the next track. Twirl it in a circle clockwise to turn on or counterclockwise to turn off etc.

      And would only react to the device you point at. (might have to establish separate gestures for nearby components etc)

      I'd buy that.

      Sounds nifty... But I fail to see how it would be an improvement over the universal remote that I have.

      I don't see how physical gestures would be any easier or more intuitive than just hitting a button labeled "on" or "volume." And I'm really not sure how it would tell whether I want to turn on the TV, the VCR, the DVD player, or the cable box... They're all piled within about a foot of eachother. Unless you had a different gesture for each device... Or a selector switch/button to tell the wand what to talk to... But, in either case, I don't see it being any easier than my current remote.

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    6. Re:That could actually be fun by Captain+Hook · · Score: 1

      And would only react to the device you point at. (might have to establish separate gestures for nearby components etc)

      I would have thought the initial pointing at the device you want to control would be enough to indicate which device is being controlled, then you can just use the same motions to mean different things to different device.

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    7. Re:That could actually be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could be interesting for people with palsy!

      I can see this remote control, which could control several devices, would be significantly different from a universal remote control, which can only control several devices.

      BTW, didn't Nintendo lose a lawsuit for their Wii remote being a violation of someone else's patent?

    8. Re:That could actually be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this remote of which you speak already exists...

      http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Fiire_Chief

    9. Re:That could actually be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah sure, that'd be fun, but why should Microsoft have the sole right to implement the idea and profit from it? Why can't they just let the market decide? (sarcasm) Oh right, Microsoft invested billions of dollars into developing the idea and have to get their return of investment. This sort of thing is understandable for pharmaceutic companies, utter BS in the software world.

    10. Re:That could actually be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then imagine your above device while going to switch the radio/TV station - only to have a sneezing fit just as you do it.

    11. Re:That could actually be fun by adavies42 · · Score: 1

      Imagine pointing the wand at your receiver and giving an upward flitting motion and the receiver bumps up the volume.

      Do I have to say "wingardium leviosa"?

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    12. Re:That could actually be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And poke it in its weak spot for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

  14. Can the rules for patenting an invention be ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    circumvented due to its being a Trade Secret?

    Should have been GPLed a long time ago or at least been made public domain to protect all the magician practitioners. Now how do they make a living? Is there no justice in the U.S., are we on the road to ruin because Obama's insistence on NOT visiting the sins of the past? Maybe a poet will address the issue long after it can be an effective prescription for political and financial health of this failing state.

    Txt

  15. For what its worth... by rodney+dill · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... As long as it works by magic, and not technology, give 'em the patent.

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    1. Re:For what its worth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sufficiently advanced technology...

    2. Re:For what its worth... by pluther · · Score: 1

      ... As long as it works by magic, and not technology, give 'em the patent.

      But if it's sufficiently advanced, how would you distinguish the two?

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  16. Mods are crazy, how is parent off topic? by blahbooboo · · Score: 1

    Are you mods crazy? How is parent off-topic?

    1. Re:Mods are crazy, how is parent off topic? by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      Are you mods crazy? How is parent off-topic?

      Because the Hitachi Magic Wand is a "personal massage device" [wink wink, nudge nudge], and this is a video game controller. If Microsoft was trying to get a trademark on "magic wand", GP might have a point. As is, he has none.

  17. the USPTO should by FudRucker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    turn this down, it is too generic, it should be impossible to patent an idea or concept, only actual products manufactured should be patentable...

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    1. Re:the USPTO should by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      only actual products manufactured should be patentable...

      Because the Patent system was clearly created to product giant corporations with large prototyping labs.

    2. Re:the USPTO should by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      So, um.... Did you bother to read the claims?

  18. I see your shwartz is a big as mine... by genghisjahn · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...let's see how well you use it. And so began the great wand battle of '09 between MS and Nintendo.

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  19. OT: Paid by word? by JustinOpinion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Somewhat off-topic, but the wording in patent applications always amuses me. For instance, the abstract says:

    The architecture can utilize one or more sensor from a collection of sensors to determine an orientation or gesture in connection with the wand, and can further issue an instruction to update a state of an environmental component based upon the orientation.

    They say "one or more sensor from a collection of sensors", which is redundant. They could just say "sensors". And why say "can further issue an instruction to update a state of an environmental component" when it is simpler to just say "can update another component"?

    The architecture can utilize sensors to determine orientation or gesture of the wand, and can update another component based upon the orientation.

    I understand the need for precision. And I guess if they don't claim "one or more sensors" then someone can try to circumvent the patent by doing the same thing with only one single sensor (or whatever). But it still sounds ridiculous, and is no excuse for making confusing sentences. So many sentences are needlessly complicated or outright superfluous. Is there really no better way to word patents?

    Can anyone comment? Is that kind of wording truly necessary for the patent to be robust, or is the wording intentionally obtuse and confusing, so that they can later use the ambiguity to argue for broader applicability?

    1. Re:OT: Paid by word? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      "one or more sensor from a collection of sensors" is not equal to the word "sensors."

      In mathematical terms, the former means >= 1 and the latter means > 1

      unless I'm missing something, and that's always possible.

    2. Re:OT: Paid by word? by JustinOpinion · · Score: 1

      Sure, but what does the "from a collection of sensors" add to the meaning? And why can't they just write "sensor(s)" if they absolutely need the "one or more" part?

      And moreover my question is whether or not they really do need the precision of "one or more" (especially in the abstract). The same logic applies to all the other potentially superfluous words. Yes there is a different between "issue an instruction to update" and simply "update", but is that differentiation actually crucially necessary from a legal or technical point of view?

      I'm no patent expert, so maybe there is a good reason why all those extra words are in there... but I'm at a loss to see what they add. It's almost as if they want the application to sound precise, without actually specifying anything particularly useful.

    3. Re:OT: Paid by word? by magicbluesmoke · · Score: 1

      Enforceability of a patent is generally based on the precision (wording and schematics) of its patent documents.

    4. Re:OT: Paid by word? by acohen1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was a co-inventor on a recent patent application and I can attest that pretty much all patents are written this way to make them as precise and robust as possible. Sometimes these phrases like "a collection of sensors" might refer specifically to a prior description or figure. Anyway, this is totally typical, and no the lawyers are not paid by word.

    5. Re:OT: Paid by word? by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      Can anyone comment? Is that kind of wording truly necessary for the patent to be robust, or is the wording intentionally obtuse and confusing, so that they can later use the ambiguity to argue for broader applicability?

      Uh, yes? Both necessary to robust and to later use ambiguity. For example:

      The architecture can utilize one or more sensor from a collection of sensors

      can apply to a single sensor. However:

      They could just say "sensors".

      could be read during litigation as applying only to two or more sensors, so a device that only effects a change via one sensor wouldn't infringe.

      But it still sounds ridiculous, and is no excuse for making confusing sentences. So many sentences are needlessly complicated or outright superfluous. Is there really no better way to word patents?

      Agreed, but unfortunately, no... Consider how confusing contracts tend to be - same exact reason. It's not a case of "why say in two words what you can say in twenty", it's more that those twenty words define a much more exact and specific definition than the two. Yes, it's less readable, but it's also much more precise - think of the wording as the language equivalent of using more significant digits in your calculations.

    6. Re:OT: Paid by word? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it still sounds ridiculous, and is no excuse for making confusing sentences. So many sentences are needlessly complicated or outright superfluous.

      I, for one, was not confused at all by the quoted sentence.

    7. Re:OT: Paid by word? by odin84gk · · Score: 1

      A competing company had a patent that contained the word "may use" in a claim. We changed it to "will use". We got a patent.

  20. Andy Wilson's research predates the WiiMote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before people start saying this is a WiiMote rip-off, be aware that Andy Wilson has been working on this stuff for many years. From an article November 2002: '"We're trying to get away from ... the universal remote where you have 300 buttons," says Andy Wilson, the Microsoft researcher who was key in developing the device. The Xwand, a prototype, contains a set of motion sensors that tell a nearby computer whether it is pointing left or right, up or down.' See http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2002-11-18-bonus-microsoft-xwand_x.htm

  21. First, get some pointy-ass shoes, a gnome outfit by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    and set of blingy neck chains, a runes book, and do jigs and circus moves. That'll impress me. Games makers already are on this, ms, so back off. Your acts further justify massive patent reform's need, clowns.

    (Yeh, shills/acolytes, go ahead, marke me inflammatory/troll...)

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  22. I'm imaging something else . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Imagine pointing the wand at your receiver and giving an upward flitting motion and the receiver bumps up the volume. or flick to the right and it changes stations or goes to the next track. Twirl it in a circle clockwise to turn on or counterclockwise to turn off etc.

    . . . I'm imagining hurling the thing at my television, which is showing politicians making lame excuses about why they used taxpayer money to clean the moats of their private residences (and other wacky stuff). And that the politician can actually feel the pain when the wand hits the screen.

    Now that is what I call political accountability.

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  23. OK everybody. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember, swish and flick!

  24. No dirty jokes about this??!? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

    Come on people, get with the program!

  25. J Allard Parts the Red Sea? by mpapet · · Score: 1

    1. They totally missed on the Tablet PC concept and burned OEM's on it. Don't worry J's going to fix it!

    2. They *totally* screwed device developers by dropping their OEM DRM scheme and release one of their own. Don't worry J's going fix the Zune.

    3.They totally missed integrating new HID in xbox. Don't worry J's going to fix that too!

    4. J's going to be working on an operating system GUI in about a decade. He'll fix that too!

    What are the chances just one of those things will work out well for Microsoft?

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  26. No thanks.. .. by Ozric · · Score: 3, Funny

    [quote]device that can manipulate and interact with its environment[/quote]

    I will stick with the katana .. it manupulates and interacts with the phyical enviroment very well.

    Does a good job on people with pesky magic wands too!

    No sensors or gizmos needed, and only effects what you point it.

    YMMV

  27. Re:First, get some pointy-ass shoes, a gnome outfi by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

    Get out your robe and wizard hat. That'll impress Britney.

  28. Prior art from 1997 by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    From our garden simulator help file:
        http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/help100/00000136.htm
    "The magic wand is used to grow plants, to pull all plants in a soil patch, to duplicate plants and soil patches, to rename plants, to reseed plants, and to place plants in stasis (or remove them from stasis). The tool actions associated with any tool can be changed in the tool editor."

    You could also map action from other tools, like the "growcorder" onto the magic wand to use it for that functionality:
        http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/help100/00000134.htm
        "The growcorder is used to scan, magnify, or scan and magnify garden objects to find out more information about them."

    I guess the way our patent system works, we can expect a cease and desist order from Microsoft any day now for using the ideas we developed over a decade before them. :-)

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  29. GW could have used one of these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oil prices could have gone down, Iraq could have been sorted out. WMD's could have been conjured...

  30. And the product will be named... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Funny

    Micosoft Wang.

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    1. Re:And the product will be named... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Micosoft Wang.

      Remember Wang Laboratories in the 80's? They used to sell word-processing equipment, but PC advances eventually stomped them. But if they had merged with MS back then, perhaps that's the name they'd use. But I suspect that "soft" and "wang" together are not good for marketing.
           

    2. Re:And the product will be named... by jvkjvk · · Score: 1

      But I suspect that "soft" and "wang" together are not good for marketing.

      and neither would "micro wang"

      just sayin'

    3. Re:And the product will be named... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      seems its a doomed merger no matter how you slice it (ouch).
       

  31. Goldilocks Gold Rush by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Will Apple compete with iPixie Dust? Java already has magic beans covered.

  32. Priot art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Harry Potter

  33. Not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While the concept may be thousends of year old, Microsoft might talk about the implementation. On the other side, they could read Xerox PARC research reports to see how it actually was done. (I don't remember when.)

    1. Re:Not new by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Microsoft's New Magic Wand Promo:

      "It's not the size of the wand...but, the MAGIC behind it!!

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  34. Meh by srussia · · Score: 4, Funny

    Probably just a stretched-out Clippy.

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  35. Re:Clippy, again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Seriously, we have to stop this before someone gets harmed.

  36. My GOD! I could use it to CONTROL MY TV!!! by mkcmkc · · Score: 1

    FROM ACROSS THE ROOM!!!!!!!!

    As a method of projecting power, there's a lot to be said for the patent system, as opposed to billy clubs, but beyond that it usually seems really lame.

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  37. Did they need to wait for Clarke to die first? by Torodung · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

    And apparently, in their filing, Microsoft thinks that any sufficiently obvious idea is indistinguishable from innovation.

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  38. Microsoft is patenting the remote control? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Isn't there prior art?

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    1. Re:Microsoft is patenting the remote control? by JSBiff · · Score: 1

      Yeah, 1980 called, they want their invention back.

    2. Re:Microsoft is patenting the remote control? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      More like 1939.

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  39. Do not insert mouse . . . by wsanders · · Score: 1

    I swear I read in the instructions for an SGI mouse back in the 90s "do not insert the mouse in your mouth or any other body orifice."

    So there is a need here...

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  40. Will it require all commands be uttered in Latin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Specifcally, infinitives?

  41. Programming wands? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd love to get some of these for coding (ala Edelman's Jump 225 series of books)!

    Imagine firing up code space - it makes all those vi/emacs flamewars look like amateur night!

    More people should read that series. They're books about writing software for crissakes.

  42. Alright, Balmer .... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ...[Zap!] You're a toad!

    -- Merlin

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  43. How is this not a Wii controller? by pembo13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's already in the shape of a wand. And it can do everything described with simple software updates. Do you get a patent just for using someone else's design now? And that's not considering how innovative the Wii controller is itself.

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  44. David Louis Edelman called... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...he wants to point out that his Programming Bars in InfoQuake/MultiReal are just these things.

  45. Magic by Translation+Error · · Score: 1

    Allard: "Why is Ballmer having us make a 'magic wand', anyway?"

    Wilson: "He says it's important to his plans of world domination. And if you know what's good for you, you'll refer to him as 'The Nobleman Ravenstyl' like he commanded in his last company-wide email!"

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  46. Voldemort called.... by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

    He claims prior Dark Art.

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  47. Did anyone else think of this by mdarksbane · · Score: 0

    So was this the first thought for anyone else when they read this story?

    http://bash.org/?111338

    Yes, this makes me feel like a horrible person.

  48. Prior art? by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1

    A description in a work of fiction is enough to discount the application as not being an original and/or non-obvious invention right? The first thing that comes to my mind when I read the summary is the wands Adele Mundy of Chatsworth uses constantly to interact with her computer systems.....

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  49. This calls for a Rush quote ..... by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    If I could wave my magic wand...

    I am made from the dust of the stars
    And the oceans flow in my veins
    Here I hide in the heart of the city
    Like a stranger coming out of the rain

    The evening plane rises up from the runway
    Over constellations of light
    I look down into a million houses
    And wonder what you're doing tonight

    Don't ask me
    I'm just improvising
    My illusion of careless flight
    Can't you see
    My temperature's rising
    I radiate more heat than light

  50. *IF* it worked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >a magic wand that actually worked to control or communicate with objects or components in an associated nearby environment.
    >a magic wand that actually worked to control or communicate
    >wand that actually worked to control
    >that actually worked

    Nothing to see here, move along.

  51. Disney's already developed it by VorlonFog · · Score: 1

    According to this item at Hackday.com anyway.

  52. I think these guys were there first... by markana · · Score: 1

    http://www.creativekingdoms.com/CK1.html Creative Kingdoms

    Their MagiQuest game uses a motion-sensitive "magic wand" with an IR transmitter to interact with objects in real space. The game is geared for kids, but it's rather fun to walk through the hotel and trigger animated objects by flicking the wand at them.

  53. Old news? by soniCron88 · · Score: 1

    There was some hullabaloo back when Nintendo first announced the Wii's capabilities because Microsoft had been working on a "magic wand" since somewhere around 1997, I believe. I'm totally unable to find any references, but there WAS a project page hosted by Microsoft which featured (besides an ugly color scheme) photos and text talking about the project/experiment.

    Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

  54. PRIOR ART!!!! by dougf317 · · Score: 1

    Prior Art!!!! Wiccan's have been using magick wands a lot longer than Microsoft has been around! No Patent!

  55. Gene Roddenberry.. by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

    Already invented it, he named it the tricorder!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricorder

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    1. Re:Gene Roddenberry.. by metaforest · · Score: 1

      I think the medical tricorder companion was more like it....

      It was also depected as being able to manipulate molecular structure as well.... IIRC that Bones had a number of nifty wand like gadgets in his house-call bag...

  56. Clikcin... Double clicking... by __aarvde6843 · · Score: 1

    What do you expect from a company that patents "Double Clicking"? haaa....

  57. Remember... by vanyel · · Score: 1

    ..."swish and flick!"

  58. In a word? by msimm · · Score: 1

    Scope. You want your patent to be as inclusive as possible because you don't want to have to file another one to adjust for some small changes.

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  59. The problem is... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    ...that Microsoft will never understand that it's not the *size* of the wand...

  60. Prior art. by kulakovich · · Score: 1

    Me. Me and Harry Potter and like eighty other people.

    Seriously though. Wand broadcasts audio to Mac, Mac recognizes text, executes scripts, controls X10 network, controls stuff inside and outside house, including lights and other computers. Also have X10 keychain built into handle if speech borks.

    kulakovich

  61. The Gates-Ballmer Paradigm? by powerlord · · Score: 1

    Any sufficiently obvious idea is indistinguishable from innovation.

    I think we're ready for a new meme ... I vote for "The Gates-Ballmer Paradigm"

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    1. Re:The Gates-Ballmer Paradigm? by adavies42 · · Score: 1

      other laws:

      • gates-sturgeon: 90% of microsoft software is crap
      • gates-hanlon: never ascribe to malice that which can be attributed to backward compatibility
      • gates-sturgeon-clarke: 90% of any sufficiently advanced version of windows is indistinguishable from crap
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  62. Skeptical. by crhylove · · Score: 1

    If it's made by Microsoft, it will probably just cause all my appliances to magically BSOD. I can't wait to wave my wand at my fridge and have it quit cooling, or begin cooling intermittently, or stop cooling and light up with a red sign saying "THIS COPY OF YOUR REFRIGERATOR DOES NOT PASS WAND GENUINE ADVANTAGE"

    Seriously, besides an obvious rip off of the wii-mote, I have NO faith in MS ability to put out a decent product. I can't think of ONE MS product I've liked, ever!

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  63. I Imagine the process like this: by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1
    so they went to the patent office and filed an application that said

    I want to patent THIS!

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  64. conductors use tasers now? by patiodragon · · Score: 1

    ... *blink* ...?

  65. I think this has been done... by Strake · · Score: 1

    Manipulate and control the environment...
    Biometrics to connect to user...

    I think it's called a "hand".

  66. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "a device with various gizmos and sensors that can manipulate and interact with its environment, including video and holographic images, while using biometrics to connect with the user.".....wait don't we call this a p*nis?

  67. What does it come with? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Emma Watson?

    OK.

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  68. harry wannabes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    now you can be like harry too

  69. Isn't that called... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A remote control?

  70. Done in the 90's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There were infrared and accelerometer based 'magic wands' with MIDI interfaces available for sale back in the early 90's. I used them in several performance art pieces I worked on in Santa Fe back then with the Vasulka's.

    It is called the Buchla Lightning MIDI controller. We used it to control computers, robotic devices, cameras and of course musical instruments. Lots of prior art here.