Neither the XBone or PS4 are going to tank, they're both very capable machines with a strong following. They're profitable now (indeed, have been for 5 years)...
Neither machine has even been released yet. To be profitable that early in the game is a really neat trick.
Presumably you meant something else?
Assuming you meant that Sony's and Microsoft's respective gaming device divisions are profitable, I can't speak much to Sony's situation, but I'd point out that the XBox product line is still around $2-3 billion in the whole when considered cumulatively, starting from the beginning of the first-gen device. And given the RROD issues with the XBox 360, for which Microsoft took a roughly $1 billion hit, I would certainly want to wait and see evidence that the XBone is free of any similar defects before decreeing it a financial success.
Actually, once XHTML came out, why do we have HTML being perpetrated at all, instead of switching over completely to XHTML?
I thought HTML 5 finally was valid XML? And without all the jiggery-pokery of XHTML and different DTD flavors.
According to Wikipedia it is "... also an attempt to define a single markup language that can be written in either HTML or XHTML syntax. XHTML5 is " the XML serialization of HTML5". I take this to mean that it can be written as XML without jiggery-pokery, but it is not mandatory to write well-formed XML.
Gah. I dearly hope that well-formed HTML 5 is also perforce well-formed XML, and we don't have any more of that closing-tags-optional rubbish. I did see on the Talk page of that Wikipedia article that HTML 5 might be identical in both HTML and XML/XHTML incarnations, with the only real difference being the mime type declared by the server. I'm not sure if I should hold my breath, though...
My takeaway from this thread is that most posters here:
* Do not understand how venture fundraising works.
* Do not understand what is meant by the words donate or pledge.
* Are quite upset over what is ultimately a failure of (mistaken) expectations.
As others of the more clueful posters have noted, Kickstarter projects are ventures, not items in a store. And ventures are like gambling -- you should only ever play with money that you can afford to lose. Sure, it's disappointing to lose, but it's part and parcel of the process, and losses aren't all that surprising. And for that matter, Subutai says that the CLANG project is going on hiatus, not necessarily going away, so it's a bit premature to call this a loss anyway.
It kind of makes you wonder if this God shits. And if so, what does it do with it's sewage?
Holy shit. Literally.
I'm reasonably certain that this sub-thread has wandered off into specific areas of blasphemy. Faeces Dei.
Then again, since the Latin faex means "leavings, dregs", faeces Dei could conceivably mean humanity itself, depending on your point of view... and from that perspective, we have a possible answer to your question -- what does this god do with its sewage? It creates a universe.
Now, wishing someone "have a crappy day!" could instead be interpreted as a positive wish for an enriching holy experience. Hmm.
It's a test for future policy development: if they can get away with spouting crap before the election, they know they can get away with murder afterwards.
Not sure why that's currently rated at +5 Funny -- this is quite insightful. Politicians do indeed do this. Lay out a (sometimes batshit-insane extreme) policy position before an election, and if the electorate rolls over, the politicians know it'll fly just fine. If the electorate raises a holy stink, back off and propose something slightly less batshit-insane that's calibrated to squeak by. This is how bullshit becomes modus operandi. This is also how Microsoft has been working to make its Panopticon (a.k.a. XBox One) palatable to the buying public.
This approach is a proven technique. Funny? More like frighteningly accurate.
Thank you for the links. Seeing those numbers, and comparing that to my own personal-experience data set, I wonder about the whole data set -- we're in Washington state, which has some considerable disparities county-by-county, for instance. The statewide median for middle-school teachers is over half again my wife's last annual pay rate, and close to that much above her pay at her last school, and she was one of the better-paid teachers at both. But then, both were small private schools with limited budgets, located away from city limits.
Anyone who thinks teachers get a bunch of free time during those 'breaks' has never been (or dated) a teacher.
Well if they were a little better at math, they could use it to manage their time better.
I'm afraid that your glib reply simply lays bare the very high likelihood that you match jythie's stated description. There are tons of material to go through, sanitize, condense, repackage, scaffold, illustrate... And any teacher worth their salt will also recognize that human knowledge is progressing, and new findings might require both additional study and then the reworking of past curricula and lesson plans.
Spend some real time around teachers. Inform yourself about what actually goes into teaching.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. We need those who can to teach.
Knowing the material isn't enough.
One must also know how to teach.
Teaching is its own skillset. I've sat through a number of truly mind-numbing classes taught by subject-matter experts who couldn't teach to save their lives. That kind of educational environment isn't useful either. The related Slashdot thread today, Writing Documentation: Teach, Don't Tell, is most appropriate in this regard. Contrary to popular imagination, I did read the fine posting, and it was worth the time.
So I would amend your aphorism:
Those who can, do. Those who can't teach, don't belong in a classroom either.We need those who can teach.
When it is pointed out that teachers are in the top half of earners in every state in US,
Cite? Seriously, I'm curious. My wife's a teacher, in both public and private over the years, and frankly her pay (and that of her colleagues) has been quite low. I've seen some egregious instances of administrator "overhead" that makes my head hurt, but teacher pay from what I've seen has been generally on the lower end.
... only about 15% of the population uses the public school system.
Assuming that 15% of the population consists of school-age children, I posit that 100% of the population still makes extensive use of the school system (both public and private).
If not for the school system,
* Who watches the kids during the business day?
* Who feeds the kids during the business day?
* Who ensures that the upcoming generation is even halfway informed?
Perhaps 15% of the population is in school. But everyone benefits from having a school system, even if it isn't doing a stellar job of turning out fully informed geniuses. Schools' role even just as daycare is important enough that some manufacturing towns start the school day in accordance with the local plants' shift schedules.
Moreover, teaching is complicated and specialized work. What gives you the impression that it should be inexpensive to educate? Or do you instead mean that teaching the younger generations should be a lower budgetary priority than keeping the oldest generations alive? I'm not sure where you're coming from.
At some point, you are building a building. You can't retrofit a foundation.
And the analogy breaks down a bit. Sure, you can't retrofit a foundation, but the high schoolers in question aren't trying to build the house, they're trying to live in it.
To use a more apt metaphor for Slashdot and for tool usage, I think ShanghaiBill and Khashishi are talking about the equivalent of driving a car -- you don't need to know how to synthesize gasoline or mill a camshaft in order to drive.
So high school students endure weeks of theorems and proofs before they see any practical applications.
Similarly, high school students don't need weeks of theorems and proofs before getting to do something useful.
Some writers use de facto to mean that something isn't officially recognized. Assuming this meaning, Christian Smith's comment makes more sense: MS's monopoly is not (just) de facto, it is (also) de jure.
FWIW, I live in Seattle, and this is the first I've heard of this event. I think at least part of the problem is that restorethe4th's organizers suck at advertising.
The brief describes how a web request is like asking a librarian for a book.
That doesn't hold a candle to truly bad poetry. Allow me to remind you:
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes. And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!
And hey, let's not forget that Terran master's work:
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Now that's much more delictably terrible, as poetry goes.
there is absolutely no way to process it in the cloud properly
Sure there is. It's called homomorphic encryption.
....Aaand now I'm thinking of some new kids' TV show hero figure, the Mighty Morphin Gay Ranger. He's rainbow-colored, naturally, so he has all the powers of all the other Rangers.
Not really what I wanted to be thinking about, but there you go.
I can't be bothered registering with Akamai to read the full report, but from the link you posted, it would appear that they are only evaluating the performance of connections that are running at at least 10mbps. Is this true? If it is, it will give extremely skewed results. Most basic connections dsl here would be ~8mbps, and that is what most people will get. I'm hearing anecdotal horror stories of 1mbps or worse connections in other countries (*cough* America *cough*); are all of these being excluded? I'm not sure how meaningful it is to compare the best available in countries, rather than the median, when you are reporting what effectively is a survey of the level of service consumers are receiving.
I'm in Seattle. Within the city limits. And the best I can get without spending gobs of cash, for a small-business line, is 1.5mbps. I keep hearing from my telco that we'll have 10mbps Real Soon Now (TM), and I keep hearing rumors of other telcos lighting up the fiber that's already been run throughout my part of town (but inexplicably kept dark). FWIW, I don't think I've ever seen download speeds in excess of around 170kb/sec. Netflix often stalls out buffering, with grotty picture quality; never mind getting HD. All for the "low" *cough* price of around $110 / month.
When I moved to Japan in 2002, the cheapest plan I could get in my neighborhood was $30 / month for 12mbps. Upgraded, at no cost to me, to 18mbps, and then to 24mbps by the time I left in 2005.
So where are these lying shitheads pulling these numbers from? And have they been properly disinfected^Wsanitized?
Slashdot Mirror
Neither the XBone or PS4 are going to tank, they're both very capable machines with a strong following. They're profitable now (indeed, have been for 5 years)...
Neither machine has even been released yet. To be profitable that early in the game is a really neat trick.
Presumably you meant something else?
Assuming you meant that Sony's and Microsoft's respective gaming device divisions are profitable, I can't speak much to Sony's situation, but I'd point out that the XBox product line is still around $2-3 billion in the whole when considered cumulatively, starting from the beginning of the first-gen device. And given the RROD issues with the XBox 360, for which Microsoft took a roughly $1 billion hit, I would certainly want to wait and see evidence that the XBone is free of any similar defects before decreeing it a financial success.
Cheers,
No, seriously.
Schools are free to not use it, not pay for it. No one is putting a gun to their head.
So then, are the kids in those schools similarly free to not use it, and not be subjected to it?
Actually, once XHTML came out, why do we have HTML being perpetrated at all, instead of switching over completely to XHTML?
I thought HTML 5 finally was valid XML? And without all the jiggery-pokery of XHTML and different DTD flavors.
According to Wikipedia it is "... also an attempt to define a single markup language that can be written in either HTML or XHTML syntax. XHTML5 is " the XML serialization of HTML5". I take this to mean that it can be written as XML without jiggery-pokery, but it is not mandatory to write well-formed XML.
Gah. I dearly hope that well-formed HTML 5 is also perforce well-formed XML, and we don't have any more of that closing-tags-optional rubbish. I did see on the Talk page of that Wikipedia article that HTML 5 might be identical in both HTML and XML/XHTML incarnations, with the only real difference being the mime type declared by the server. I'm not sure if I should hold my breath, though...
My takeaway from this thread is that most posters here:
* Do not understand how venture fundraising works.
* Do not understand what is meant by the words donate or pledge.
* Are quite upset over what is ultimately a failure of (mistaken) expectations.
As others of the more clueful posters have noted, Kickstarter projects are ventures, not items in a store. And ventures are like gambling -- you should only ever play with money that you can afford to lose. Sure, it's disappointing to lose, but it's part and parcel of the process, and losses aren't all that surprising. And for that matter, Subutai says that the CLANG project is going on hiatus, not necessarily going away, so it's a bit premature to call this a loss anyway.
Cheers,
It kind of makes you wonder if this God shits. And if so, what does it do with it's sewage?
Holy shit. Literally.
I'm reasonably certain that this sub-thread has wandered off into specific areas of blasphemy. Faeces Dei.
Then again, since the Latin faex means "leavings, dregs", faeces Dei could conceivably mean humanity itself, depending on your point of view... and from that perspective, we have a possible answer to your question -- what does this god do with its sewage? It creates a universe.
Now, wishing someone "have a crappy day!" could instead be interpreted as a positive wish for an enriching holy experience. Hmm.
(I might have too much time on my hands.)
Cheers,
Actually, once XHTML came out, why do we have HTML being perpetrated at all, instead of switching over completely to XHTML?
I thought HTML 5 finally was valid XML? And without all the jiggery-pokery of XHTML and different DTD flavors.
in hoc to
Off-topic pedantry: the expression's in hock to...
No, no, it's not in hock, although that does rhyme -- read the slide! It says MyNOC .
It makes perfect sense. Chewing on the cables.
Cheers,
Fair enough.
' Every man for himself ' is the central message of Therevada Buddhism!
... and God against all!
(See Werner Herzog's film, Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle . More details at Wikipedia: 1, 2. Ah, the boisterous joy of German cinema...)
Cheers,
...eight times more likely to die at the hands of a policeman in the US than by acts of terrorism...
So I'm more likely to die by terrorist action, than to die by terrorist action? I'll have to think about that one.
[not really joking, but wishing I were...]
Here's what the Tesla site says: http://www.teslamotors.com/advocacy_texas
Here's the Dallas Observer's discussion: http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2013/09/tesla_crushed_by_car_dealer_lo.php
And Auto News: http://www.autonews.com/article/20130909/RETAIL07/130909878/how-texas-dealers-slammed-the-door-on-tesla
Could you put that into a car analogy for us?
...
( ducks and runs for cover )
An accurate description of politics is indistinguishable from absurdism.
So long as we remember to laugh at ourselves, and not at the description.
It's a test for future policy development: if they can get away with spouting crap before the election, they know they can get away with murder afterwards.
Not sure why that's currently rated at +5 Funny -- this is quite insightful. Politicians do indeed do this. Lay out a (sometimes batshit-insane extreme) policy position before an election, and if the electorate rolls over, the politicians know it'll fly just fine. If the electorate raises a holy stink, back off and propose something slightly less batshit-insane that's calibrated to squeak by. This is how bullshit becomes modus operandi. This is also how Microsoft has been working to make its Panopticon (a.k.a. XBox One) palatable to the buying public.
This approach is a proven technique. Funny? More like frighteningly accurate.
Cheers,
Thank you for the links. Seeing those numbers, and comparing that to my own personal-experience data set, I wonder about the whole data set -- we're in Washington state, which has some considerable disparities county-by-county, for instance. The statewide median for middle-school teachers is over half again my wife's last annual pay rate, and close to that much above her pay at her last school, and she was one of the better-paid teachers at both. But then, both were small private schools with limited budgets, located away from city limits.
Anyway, useful perspective. Thank you again.
Anyone who thinks teachers get a bunch of free time during those 'breaks' has never been (or dated) a teacher.
Well if they were a little better at math, they could use it to manage their time better.
I'm afraid that your glib reply simply lays bare the very high likelihood that you match jythie's stated description. There are tons of material to go through, sanitize, condense, repackage, scaffold, illustrate... And any teacher worth their salt will also recognize that human knowledge is progressing, and new findings might require both additional study and then the reworking of past curricula and lesson plans.
Spend some real time around teachers. Inform yourself about what actually goes into teaching.
Cheers,
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. We need those who can to teach.
Knowing the material isn't enough.
One must also know how to teach.
Teaching is its own skillset. I've sat through a number of truly mind-numbing classes taught by subject-matter experts who couldn't teach to save their lives. That kind of educational environment isn't useful either. The related Slashdot thread today, Writing Documentation: Teach, Don't Tell , is most appropriate in this regard. Contrary to popular imagination, I did read the fine posting, and it was worth the time.
So I would amend your aphorism:
Those who can, do. Those who can't teach, don't belong in a classroom either. We need those who can teach.
Cheers,
When it is pointed out that teachers are in the top half of earners in every state in US,
Cite? Seriously, I'm curious. My wife's a teacher, in both public and private over the years, and frankly her pay (and that of her colleagues) has been quite low. I've seen some egregious instances of administrator "overhead" that makes my head hurt, but teacher pay from what I've seen has been generally on the lower end.
... only about 15% of the population uses the public school system.
Assuming that 15% of the population consists of school-age children, I posit that 100% of the population still makes extensive use of the school system (both public and private).
If not for the school system,
* Who watches the kids during the business day?
* Who feeds the kids during the business day?
* Who ensures that the upcoming generation is even halfway informed?
Perhaps 15% of the population is in school. But everyone benefits from having a school system, even if it isn't doing a stellar job of turning out fully informed geniuses. Schools' role even just as daycare is important enough that some manufacturing towns start the school day in accordance with the local plants' shift schedules.
Moreover, teaching is complicated and specialized work. What gives you the impression that it should be inexpensive to educate? Or do you instead mean that teaching the younger generations should be a lower budgetary priority than keeping the oldest generations alive? I'm not sure where you're coming from.
At some point, you are building a building. You can't retrofit a foundation.
And the analogy breaks down a bit. Sure, you can't retrofit a foundation, but the high schoolers in question aren't trying to build the house, they're trying to live in it.
To use a more apt metaphor for Slashdot and for tool usage, I think ShanghaiBill and Khashishi are talking about the equivalent of driving a car -- you don't need to know how to synthesize gasoline or mill a camshaft in order to drive.
Similarly, high school students don't need weeks of theorems and proofs before getting to do something useful.
Cheers,
Where do you live (said the disillusioned and troubled USian whose feet are getting itchy)?
Some writers use de facto to mean that something isn't officially recognized. Assuming this meaning, Christian Smith's comment makes more sense: MS's monopoly is not (just) de facto, it is (also) de jure.
Cheers,
FWIW, I live in Seattle, and this is the first I've heard of this event. I think at least part of the problem is that restorethe4th's organizers suck at advertising.
That doesn't hold a candle to truly bad poetry. Allow me to remind you:
And hey, let's not forget that Terran master's work:
Now that's much more delictably terrible, as poetry goes.
With the rest being an arm of Wall Street.
Oo, two arms. But why can't I see them?
Ah, yes, they appear to both be stuck up th...
..... never mind. That's just not right.
there is absolutely no way to process it in the cloud properly
Sure there is. It's called homomorphic encryption.
....Aaand now I'm thinking of some new kids' TV show hero figure, the Mighty Morphin Gay Ranger. He's rainbow-colored, naturally, so he has all the powers of all the other Rangers.
Not really what I wanted to be thinking about, but there you go.
I can't be bothered registering with Akamai to read the full report, but from the link you posted, it would appear that they are only evaluating the performance of connections that are running at at least 10mbps. Is this true? If it is, it will give extremely skewed results. Most basic connections dsl here would be ~8mbps, and that is what most people will get. I'm hearing anecdotal horror stories of 1mbps or worse connections in other countries (*cough* America *cough*); are all of these being excluded? I'm not sure how meaningful it is to compare the best available in countries, rather than the median, when you are reporting what effectively is a survey of the level of service consumers are receiving.
I'm in Seattle. Within the city limits. And the best I can get without spending gobs of cash, for a small-business line, is 1.5mbps. I keep hearing from my telco that we'll have 10mbps Real Soon Now (TM), and I keep hearing rumors of other telcos lighting up the fiber that's already been run throughout my part of town (but inexplicably kept dark). FWIW, I don't think I've ever seen download speeds in excess of around 170kb/sec. Netflix often stalls out buffering, with grotty picture quality; never mind getting HD. All for the "low" *cough* price of around $110 / month.
When I moved to Japan in 2002, the cheapest plan I could get in my neighborhood was $30 / month for 12mbps. Upgraded, at no cost to me, to 18mbps, and then to 24mbps by the time I left in 2005.
So where are these lying shitheads pulling these numbers from? And have they been properly disinfected^Wsanitized?
Judging from the smell, I think not.