isnt this the same as the school claiming to hold IP rights over all of the drawings I make in my art classes?
i see no difference, but in that context it seems awfully ridiculous.
knowing very little about what the ramifications of this project include didn't seem to bother me half as much as simply looking at the pictures and thinking it looked like the powerful thing ive ever seen
There are plenty of people I know (including myself) who are buying the iphone and aren't really interested in using it as a "business" device. Did you miss the keynote? The biggest features are it's multimedia capabilities, easier to use voicemail, email and google maps. These arent business functions, they are everyday consumer functions. My old ipod is broke, and this will kill two birds with one stone since my current phone is getting old as well.
I feel people are looking at this all wrong. This was not developed solely for geeky IT types and business people (the current smartphone market). It's for average people who like their iPod and have some disposable income, like my tennis instructor brother.
just mention right away that the ipod does far less than pretty much every high end MP3 player you can buy. How many happy ipod users are there? I think as long as the iphone does what it advertises and does it with style and ease (like the ipod), it will be a great success.
i dont think apple is really going after the IT crowd with this, they are the only ones who will complain because it doesnt have feature X, rather than focusing on how well it performs the things it can do.
as long as the consumer doesn't even know they are dealing with DRM, it wouldn't matter.
your average person has no clue about digital rights management.
its kind of silly to split hairs over DRM details when the target market doesnt even realize they will exist. Once it stops your average joe from doing something basic, then its starting to make a negative impact.
Has microsoft ever been successful in the non-computer consumer market with anything other than XBox? I don't like using anecdotal evidence normally....but, being a younger person I can safely say I've never ran into anyone who seemed to feel that microsoft made anything "cool".
My feelings are that people seperate Xbox and microsoft. Most people dont think of xbox and think microsoft.
oh yeah...Zune sounds silly to me. iPod did as well at first...so I might change my mind. But all I can think of that crappy show "Dune".
If the Zune only had a few of the shortcomings Pogue pointed out it might sell a few. But honestly....how much marketing power will it take to take an inferior product with a ton of restrictions and force people to think it's cool all of a sudden? I don't think even microsoft has that kind of power
I agree with many of the comments here about myspace being inane and mostly full of worthless content free crap. However...with so many consumer oriented people in one place, its probably the best free marketing tool ever made. Look at how many big companies are advertising myspace web addresses...they know young people are much more likely to check out the site with that sort of address
I have made a decent amount of money solely from advertising my products on myspace. You can even target demographics through the advanced search function...adding them as friends is the exact same as getting one exposure to a customer through an advertisement.
You're making a bad assumption that everyone else has the same email habits as you do. I do a large amount of photoshop work, and having 1 gig of email storage ONLINE at all times would be a godsend. When files are larger than 4 or 5 megs, I have to burn them to a disk and lug it around....I can just imagine it now, finally having enough space on my email account to never delete messages again, and even keep project files i move around in their own directory so I can access them anywhere.
If you can't find 40 songs out of 500,000 that you enjoy, you must live a sad, depressing life. I'm not sure if Best Buy carries that much music, where oh where do you buy music?
I know this is a little offtopic, but I'm really tired of hearing people complain about the "low quality" 128k AAC files. Not only does your average joe not give a shit what the bitrate of his music files are (I run into friends who have those shitty 96k mp3s they pulled off of kazaa...you know what? they don't even notice the crappy quality) but I also would venture to say most of the Slashdot community couldn't tell the difference between a 128k AAC file and an mp3 that was ripped from a burned cd using the same file.
Oh yeah, AAC won the listening test over here too :
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9217
I wouldn't even know where to begin with your post, but if you're going to go right out and say something as foolish as : "Linux distributions have caughtup and surpassed OSX in terms of ease of use, avalible applications and price", try not to make yourself look even worse by claiming your post is insightful "no matter what". Ease of use? I somehow doubt you've ever used OS X for more than a couple minutes, but I'm sure you havn't had the chance....too busy playing around with photoshop, maya, logic, studio MX, MS office and painter 7 right? Oh, wait.......
I think it's looking pretty optimistic for apple at this point....the ipod has helped people realize that paying a premium for an excellent piece of industrial design just might be worth it after all, the same mentality mac users have had for a while now.
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isnt this the same as the school claiming to hold IP rights over all of the drawings I make in my art classes? i see no difference, but in that context it seems awfully ridiculous.
knowing very little about what the ramifications of this project include didn't seem to bother me half as much as simply looking at the pictures and thinking it looked like the powerful thing ive ever seen
There are plenty of people I know (including myself) who are buying the iphone and aren't really interested in using it as a "business" device. Did you miss the keynote? The biggest features are it's multimedia capabilities, easier to use voicemail, email and google maps. These arent business functions, they are everyday consumer functions. My old ipod is broke, and this will kill two birds with one stone since my current phone is getting old as well. I feel people are looking at this all wrong. This was not developed solely for geeky IT types and business people (the current smartphone market). It's for average people who like their iPod and have some disposable income, like my tennis instructor brother.
just mention right away that the ipod does far less than pretty much every high end MP3 player you can buy. How many happy ipod users are there? I think as long as the iphone does what it advertises and does it with style and ease (like the ipod), it will be a great success.
i dont think apple is really going after the IT crowd with this, they are the only ones who will complain because it doesnt have feature X, rather than focusing on how well it performs the things it can do.
as long as the consumer doesn't even know they are dealing with DRM, it wouldn't matter. your average person has no clue about digital rights management. its kind of silly to split hairs over DRM details when the target market doesnt even realize they will exist. Once it stops your average joe from doing something basic, then its starting to make a negative impact.
Has microsoft ever been successful in the non-computer consumer market with anything other than XBox? I don't like using anecdotal evidence normally....but, being a younger person I can safely say I've never ran into anyone who seemed to feel that microsoft made anything "cool". My feelings are that people seperate Xbox and microsoft. Most people dont think of xbox and think microsoft. oh yeah...Zune sounds silly to me. iPod did as well at first...so I might change my mind. But all I can think of that crappy show "Dune". If the Zune only had a few of the shortcomings Pogue pointed out it might sell a few. But honestly....how much marketing power will it take to take an inferior product with a ton of restrictions and force people to think it's cool all of a sudden? I don't think even microsoft has that kind of power
I agree with many of the comments here about myspace being inane and mostly full of worthless content free crap. However...with so many consumer oriented people in one place, its probably the best free marketing tool ever made. Look at how many big companies are advertising myspace web addresses...they know young people are much more likely to check out the site with that sort of address I have made a decent amount of money solely from advertising my products on myspace. You can even target demographics through the advanced search function...adding them as friends is the exact same as getting one exposure to a customer through an advertisement.
Good thing you didn't get one of those penis-burning dell models
You're making a bad assumption that everyone else has the same email habits as you do. I do a large amount of photoshop work, and having 1 gig of email storage ONLINE at all times would be a godsend. When files are larger than 4 or 5 megs, I have to burn them to a disk and lug it around....I can just imagine it now, finally having enough space on my email account to never delete messages again, and even keep project files i move around in their own directory so I can access them anywhere.
If you can't find 40 songs out of 500,000 that you enjoy, you must live a sad, depressing life. I'm not sure if Best Buy carries that much music, where oh where do you buy music?
I know this is a little offtopic, but I'm really tired of hearing people complain about the "low quality" 128k AAC files. Not only does your average joe not give a shit what the bitrate of his music files are (I run into friends who have those shitty 96k mp3s they pulled off of kazaa...you know what? they don't even notice the crappy quality) but I also would venture to say most of the Slashdot community couldn't tell the difference between a 128k AAC file and an mp3 that was ripped from a burned cd using the same file. Oh yeah, AAC won the listening test over here too : http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9217
I wouldn't even know where to begin with your post, but if you're going to go right out and say something as foolish as : "Linux distributions have caughtup and surpassed OSX in terms of ease of use, avalible applications and price", try not to make yourself look even worse by claiming your post is insightful "no matter what". Ease of use? I somehow doubt you've ever used OS X for more than a couple minutes, but I'm sure you havn't had the chance....too busy playing around with photoshop, maya, logic, studio MX, MS office and painter 7 right? Oh, wait.......
I think it's looking pretty optimistic for apple at this point....the ipod has helped people realize that paying a premium for an excellent piece of industrial design just might be worth it after all, the same mentality mac users have had for a while now.