(9.) "The debates were hijacked from the truly independent League of Women Voters in 1986."
"The League of Women Voters ran these debates with an iron hand as open, transparent, non-partisan events from 1976 to 1984," Rice says. "The men running the
major campaigns ended their control when the League defiantly included John Anderson and Ross Perot, and used tough moderators and formats the parties didn't like. The parties snatched the debates from the League and formed the Commission on Presidential Debates -- the CPD -- in 1986."
Without googling into this, it initially struck me that Perot was mentioned in a timeline ending in a debates "takeover" in 1986 by the cpd, 4-5 years before Perot launched his presidential campaign, so I thought.
I'm not debating whether there was a "takeover" of the LWV moderated debates, just wondering if anyone knows what Ross Perot's role was in any LWV moderated debates prior to 1986, as it seems to me that Rice is trying to state that, based on her info, the LWV lost the presidential debates, in part, due to the admission of Ross Perot into the debates. The CPD, not the LWV, admitted Perot to the 1992 debates, and according to Rice's own timeline, CPD was in charge then.
On the surface, it appears to be a simple error, an oversight of copy and pasting, and one that makes me question the rest of "Secret # 9" accuracy and Rice's sincerity and attention to detail about the facts.
NATO Designation: GEN11 Classification: Automobile, VTOL 3 rotor aircraft, hovercraft Primary Function: Joymobile, sentient magic being Builder:
Ken Adam, Rowland Emmett - Production Designers, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Movie
Alan Mann - Ford Racing Team Fiirst Flight/Road Test: June 1967, UK Power Plant: Ford 3000 V6 and automatic transmission Fuel: Love Thrust: Unknown Length: 17 feet Height: 5 feet Wingspan: 10 feet Rotor Diameter Vertical Lift Rotors(2)- 6 feet; Rear Propulsion Prop Diameter(1)- 6 feet Speed: 100 Mph Ceiling: 5000 Feet, est. Maximum Takeoff Weight: 3500 lbs. Range: Unknown; Recorded trip to Vulgaria from UK Armament: Truly Scrumptious
(Source: http://chittygen11.com/index.html)
Didn't they have a flying car.....
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NYT On Flying Cars
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· Score: 4, Funny
In Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? I don't recall how it's powered, but I do remember it had a swing wing similiar to an f-111 or f-14 tomcat.
Any data out there on the flight characteristics of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang flying car?
I agree. Local Governments have their hands full just meeting their mandated responsibilities and providing services. I could see a role for a city providing interim wifi service if there were an issue of coverage or access in an area neglected by commercial interests because of a perceived lack of demand, or because of an area's demographics, but to compete with commercial interests, I think there may be laws in certain states prohibiting this.
I think allocating money for say, an economic development department, to organize some meetings with the area chamber and wifi providers would be reasonable. Beyond marketing the opportunties to both businesses and access providers, I wouldn't want my city to go into the wifi business.
I could also see transit stations/centers, airports, etc. as places that local governments put bids out for wifi provisioning contract being reasonable.
Only place I would have issues with wifi might be in parks **near schools**. I think it might give kids access they shouldn't have, and might contribute to truancy and loitering. One more headache for the city to fix.
A concern some communities might have is the access the wifi network might allow minors to have to sites prohibited by their schools district and at home.
We have 3 (midtower, 100Mhz Bus mobo based)PCs in our house; 1 G4 iMac, a 500 PIII laptop, a G3 PowerBook, and an old Palm, and with our needs and budget, we get more for our money using older hardware.
If we spent on one what we spend on our older machines and two laptops, we'd probably have the latest, greatest PC we see on TV, but then we'd only have 1 PC.
We'll probably upgrade the motherboards/cpu/memory on the three PCs, eventually, but for now they do the job.
Anyways, shopping for deals on Craigslist and EBay for old hardware is too much fun.
1.) it goes both ways
2.) when the US "gets into others business" diplomatically, it's always demonized. Why is "European" intervention so morally superior and ethical, legally defensible as opposed to our intervention.
And when "Big Daddy United States" sits out a situation, it receives 10 fold the criticism as it's so called "European Counterparts".
My not holding Europeans' opinions about our Presidential Election high doesn't mean I'm supportive of Bush, or Kerry, it just means I believe they are the last people on Earth I would look to for insight about the middle east, or for insight into the best choice for President of the United States.
--Media Release--
Poll of 35 Countries Finds 30 Prefer Kerry, 3 Bush
Traditional US Allies Strongly Favor Kerry
Bush Preferred in Philippines, Poland and Nigeria
Most Say Bush Foreign Policy Has Made Them Feel Worse Toward US
For release: September 8, 2004
Washington DC: In 30 out of 35 countries polled, from all regions of the world, a majority or
plurality would prefer to see John Kerry win the US presidential election--especially traditional
US allies. The only countries where President Bush was preferred were the Philippines, Nigeria,
and Poland. India and Thailand were divided. On average, Kerry was favored by more than a
two-to-one margin--46% to 20% (weighted for variations in population, the ratio was not
significantly different). Overall, one-third did not give an answer.
The US electorate should give consideration to the opinions of citizens from countries, chiefly from Europe, that have left humanity with a legacy of global warfare, colonialization, slavery, exploitation and political instability, abroad in their former colonies, and at home?????????
Can the collective European electorates really have anything to offer the citizens of a successful 228 year old constitionally based republic? The history of France's civic history over the last 100 yrs alone will leave one's head spinning, and their colonial policies, along with Britain, led to the very situation in Iraq. We need not go into Germany's contribution to history and the decontruction of democratic government and human rights. Yes, Europeans really have led by example.
I think the world should focus on governining itself, and avoiding the necessity of more Marshall Plans. The US seems to do fine with it's electoral process w/o the involvement of the Old World. I seem to remember an American President (NOT a European leader) proposing the League of Nations to help the "Sophisticated Europeans" to avoid another global war.
I first used logo in 1986 in a HS computer programming class. The class was run by the Math Dept. and the class I was in was taught by a Geometry teacher. They'd yet to incorporate logo into their Math Program at the time, not sure why, but when I would get thru with my assigned exercises, I would play around and make what the teacher called "art" using logo.
He seemed so surprised that logo could generate such patterns. I always got the impression they'd had some sales rep type explain how to start using logo on the Commodores we had, and didn't really know about the language and the opportunities.
Hah, I find the police department preparing these pamphlets amusing
Getting ripped off at a state fair doesn't make the pamphlets any less useful.
They needed to have cheaper patrols for the parking area, rent-a-cops, vs. sworn officers, so they have more personnel deployed to protect property, i.e. cars..
Cameras would be even better.
The Fair cops have, for the last 5 yrs, been obscessed with some potential LA Riots event taking place at the Fair, instead of sticking to the basics (burglaries, domestic disputes, drunks), plus with terrorism "looming", every year, they claim the Fair will be the next 911.
A 1/3rd of them want their day in the sun, their own 911, or Seattle, a chance to test their mettle.
Car burglaries just aren't sexy enough for them. They want to get medals. I think they call it hero syndrome.
Install motion detectors under your eves outside, and run a lamp, light fixture inside your house off a sensor switch to alert you when activity is going on. Motion is detected, light inside goes off. Silent alarm. Then call 911 and "embelish" about the eminent threat. Be convincing, sound scared. Police can use deadly force. Better to let them beat/shoot suspect than risk your life or health, or risk being sued.
Product: Motion Activated Indoor Alert
Model: 6019 http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?product =15
Features:
# Alerts you inside to activity outside.
# Includes remote motion sensor and indoor plug-in converter with alert.
# No wiring required.
# Plug-in controls up to 300 Watts of incandescent lighting.
# Plug-in includes audible alert with volume control.
# Sensor turns lights ON and OFF and activates alert up to 100' away.
# Sensor detects motion up to 70' away and 180 arc.
Product: Motion Activated Lamp Socket Control
Model: 6024 http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?product =16
Features:
# Adds motion security to non-motion lights.
# Includes remote motion sensor and lamp socket converter.
# No wiring required.
# Socket controls up to 150 Watts of incandescent lighting.
# Sensor turns ON and OFF up to 100' away.
# Sensor detects motion up to 70' away and 180 arc.
New York Times Atomic Activity in North Korea Raises Concerns By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD September 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/5kb3d
WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 - President Bush and his top advisers have received intelligence reports in recent days describing a confusing series of actions by North Korea that some experts believe could indicate the country is preparing to conduct its first test explosion of a nuclear weapon, according to senior officials with access to the intelligence.
While the indications were viewed as serious enough to warrant a warning to the White House, American intelligence agencies appear divided about the significance of the new North Korean actions, much as they were about the evidence concerning Iraq's alleged weapons stockpiles.
Some analysts in agencies that were the most cautious about the Iraq findings have cautioned that they do not believe the activity detected in North Korea in the past three weeks is necessarily the harbinger of a test. A senior scientist who assesses nuclear intelligence says the new evidence "is not conclusive," but is potentially worrisome.
If successful, a test would end a debate that stretches back more than a decade over whether North Korea has a rudimentary arsenal, as it has boasted in recent years. Some analysts also fear that a test could change the balance of power in Asia, perhaps leading to a new nuclear arms race there.
In interviews on Friday and Saturday, senior officials were reluctant to provide many details of the new activities they have detected, but some of the information appears to have come from satellite intelligence.
One official with access to the intelligence called it "a series of indicators of increased activity that we believe would be associated with a test," saying that the "likelihood" of a North Korean test had risen significantly in just the past four weeks. It was that changed assessment that led to the decision to give an update to President Bush, the officials said.
The activities included the movement of materials around several suspected test sites, including one near a location where intelligence agencies reported last year that conventional explosives were being tested that could compress a plutonium core and set off a nuclear blast. But officials have not seen the classic indicators of preparations at a test site, in which cables are laid to measure an explosion in a deep test pit.
"I'm not sure you would see that in a country that has tunnels everywhere," said one senior official who has reviewed the data. Officials said if North Korea proceeded with a test, it would probably be with a plutonium bomb, perhaps one fabricated from the 8,000 spent nuclear fuel rods that the North has boasted in the past few months have been reprocessed into bomb fuel.
A senior intelligence official noted Saturday that even if "they are doing something, it doesn't mean they will" conduct a test, noting that preparations that the North knew could be detected by the United States might be a scare tactic or negotiating tactic by the North Korean government.
Several officials speculated that the test, if it occurred, could be intended to influence the presidential election, though a senior military official said while "an election surprise" could be the motive, "I'm not sure what that would buy them."
While the intelligence community's experience in Iraq colors how it assesses threats in places like North Korea, the comparisons are inexact. Inspectors have seen and measured the raw material that the North could turn into bomb fuel; the only question is whether they have done so in the 20 months since arms inspectors were ousted. While Iraq denied it has weapons, the North boasts about them - perhaps too loudly, suggesting they may have less than they say.
On the other hand, the divisions within the administration over how to deal with North Korea mirrors some of the old debate about Iraq. Hard-l
Slashdot Mirror
Paperclip
I vote for paperclip to do it. I wonder if he would attend the viewing of the body, er..case?
I'm not debating whether there was a "takeover" of the LWV moderated debates, just wondering if anyone knows what Ross Perot's role was in any LWV moderated debates prior to 1986, as it seems to me that Rice is trying to state that, based on her info, the LWV lost the presidential debates, in part, due to the admission of Ross Perot into the debates. The CPD, not the LWV, admitted Perot to the 1992 debates, and according to Rice's own timeline, CPD was in charge then.
On the surface, it appears to be a simple error, an oversight of copy and pasting, and one that makes me question the rest of "Secret # 9" accuracy and Rice's sincerity and attention to detail about the facts.
Is this a "slashdot infomercial"? Why is /. posting this Radicati Group marketing spin?,and yes, I RTFA.
I wonder what a MLB team slugfest looks like via spy satellite? Something like Diablo or Age of Empires?
Is this front page article evidence of an emerging kinder and gentler slashdot for AOL/MSN/Yahoo drones?
Maybe it's time for something like slashdot jr?or AOL_Dot?
Chitty Bang Specifications
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ )
NATO Designation: GEN11
Classification: Automobile, VTOL 3 rotor aircraft, hovercraft
Primary Function: Joymobile, sentient magic being
Builder:
Ken Adam, Rowland Emmett - Production Designers, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Movie
Alan Mann - Ford Racing Team
Fiirst Flight/Road Test: June 1967, UK
Power Plant: Ford 3000 V6 and automatic transmission
Fuel: Love
Thrust: Unknown
Length: 17 feet
Height: 5 feet
Wingspan: 10 feet
Rotor Diameter Vertical Lift Rotors(2)- 6 feet; Rear Propulsion Prop Diameter(1)- 6 feet
Speed: 100 Mph
Ceiling: 5000 Feet, est.
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 3500 lbs.
Range: Unknown; Recorded trip to Vulgaria from UK
Armament: Truly Scrumptious
(Source: http://chittygen11.com/index.html)
In Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? I don't recall how it's powered, but I do remember it had a swing wing similiar to an f-111 or f-14 tomcat. Any data out there on the flight characteristics of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang flying car?
I agree. Local Governments have their hands full just meeting their mandated responsibilities and providing services. I could see a role for a city providing interim wifi service if there were an issue of coverage or access in an area neglected by commercial interests because of a perceived lack of demand, or because of an area's demographics, but to compete with commercial interests, I think there may be laws in certain states prohibiting this.
I think allocating money for say, an economic development department, to organize some meetings with the area chamber and wifi providers would be reasonable. Beyond marketing the opportunties to both businesses and access providers, I wouldn't want my city to go into the wifi business.
I could also see transit stations/centers, airports, etc. as places that local governments put bids out for wifi provisioning contract being reasonable.
Only place I would have issues with wifi might be in parks **near schools**. I think it might give kids access they shouldn't have, and might contribute to truancy and loitering. One more headache for the city to fix.
A concern some communities might have is the access the wifi network might allow minors to have to sites prohibited by their schools district and at home.
on my XP Pro sp1 installation of 0.10 pr I had no problems installing the extension.
We have 3 (midtower, 100Mhz Bus mobo based)PCs in our house; 1 G4 iMac, a 500 PIII laptop, a G3 PowerBook, and an old Palm, and with our needs and budget, we get more for our money using older hardware.
If we spent on one what we spend on our older machines and two laptops, we'd probably have the latest, greatest PC we see on TV, but then we'd only have 1 PC.
We'll probably upgrade the motherboards/cpu/memory on the three PCs, eventually, but for now they do the job. Anyways, shopping for deals on Craigslist and EBay for old hardware is too much fun.
Agreed, I think that is fair, but
1.) it goes both ways
2.) when the US "gets into others business" diplomatically, it's always demonized. Why is "European" intervention so morally superior and ethical, legally defensible as opposed to our intervention.
And when "Big Daddy United States" sits out a situation, it receives 10 fold the criticism as it's so called "European Counterparts".
My not holding Europeans' opinions about our Presidential Election high doesn't mean I'm supportive of Bush, or Kerry, it just means I believe they are the last people on Earth I would look to for insight about the middle east, or for insight into the best choice for President of the United States.
I bought the straw man DIY kit from michaelmooore.com
French Jeopardy:
For 500 Francs, what is the "The Sykes-Picot Agreement"
PDF - 8 pages
http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/GlobeScan-
The US electorate should give consideration to the opinions of citizens from countries, chiefly from Europe, that have left humanity with a legacy of global warfare, colonialization, slavery, exploitation and political instability, abroad in their former colonies, and at home?????????
Can the collective European electorates really have anything to offer the citizens of a successful 228 year old constitionally based republic? The history of France's civic history over the last 100 yrs alone will leave one's head spinning, and their colonial policies, along with Britain, led to the very situation in Iraq. We need not go into Germany's contribution to history and the decontruction of democratic government and human rights. Yes, Europeans really have led by example.
I think the world should focus on governining itself, and avoiding the necessity of more Marshall Plans. The US seems to do fine with it's electoral process w/o the involvement of the Old World. I seem to remember an American President (NOT a European leader) proposing the League of Nations to help the "Sophisticated Europeans" to avoid another global war.
I first used logo in 1986 in a HS computer programming class. The class was run by the Math Dept. and the class I was in was taught by a Geometry teacher. They'd yet to incorporate logo into their Math Program at the time, not sure why, but when I would get thru with my assigned exercises, I would play around and make what the teacher called "art" using logo.
He seemed so surprised that logo could generate such patterns. I always got the impression they'd had some sales rep type explain how to start using logo on the Commodores we had, and didn't really know about the language and the opportunities.
Hah, I find the police department preparing these pamphlets amusing
Getting ripped off at a state fair doesn't make the pamphlets any less useful.
They needed to have cheaper patrols for the parking area, rent-a-cops, vs. sworn officers, so they have more personnel deployed to protect property, i.e. cars..
Cameras would be even better.
The Fair cops have, for the last 5 yrs, been obscessed with some potential LA Riots event taking place at the Fair, instead of sticking to the basics (burglaries, domestic disputes, drunks), plus with terrorism "looming", every year, they claim the Fair will be the next 911.
A 1/3rd of them want their day in the sun, their own 911, or Seattle, a chance to test their mettle. Car burglaries just aren't sexy enough for them. They want to get medals. I think they call it hero syndrome.
wow, part numbers and all. Silent, non-visible alarm system for under $50. Guess that isn't sexy enough for the slashdot crowd.
Don't be a Victim / Personal and Home Safety - Sacramento Sheriff's Departmenth ome_safety
http://sacsheriff.com/crime_prevention/index.cfm#
Cheap stealth security:
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t =3
t =6
t =5
t =15
t =16
Install motion detectors under your eves outside, and run a lamp, light fixture inside your house off a sensor switch to alert you when activity is going on. Motion is detected, light inside goes off. Silent alarm. Then call 911 and "embelish" about the eminent threat. Be convincing, sound scared. Police can use deadly force. Better to let them beat/shoot suspect than risk your life or health, or risk being sued.
Very Cheap. Goto http://www.homedepot.com
type : home automation
into their search field.
Look for these items in search result (cannot link directly to catalog, otherwise I would post a link):
(can also goto:http://www.desatech.com/heath/remotehome.htm
Heath Zenith
Wireless Command Remote Motion Sensor
Home Depot Model SL6030WH5
Internet/Catalog # 161731
$24.99 EA
mfg link: http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?produc
Heath Zenith
Wireless Command Plug In Lamp Converter w/ alert
Home Depot Model SL6012WH5
Internet/Catalog # 161730
$19.99 EA
mfg link: http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?produc
Heath Zenith
Wireless Command Screw In Socket Converter
Home Depot Model SL6010WH5
Internet/Catalog # 161729
$17.99 EA
mfg link: http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?produc
mfg also offers kits:
Product: Motion Activated Indoor Alert
Model: 6019
http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?produc
Features:
# Alerts you inside to activity outside.
# Includes remote motion sensor and indoor plug-in converter with alert.
# No wiring required.
# Plug-in controls up to 300 Watts of incandescent lighting.
# Plug-in includes audible alert with volume control.
# Sensor turns lights ON and OFF and activates alert up to 100' away.
# Sensor detects motion up to 70' away and 180 arc.
Product: Motion Activated Lamp Socket Control
Model: 6024
http://12.153.20.72/cgi-bin/remotehome.cgi?produc
Features:
# Adds motion security to non-motion lights.
# Includes remote motion sensor and lamp socket converter.
# No wiring required.
# Socket controls up to 150 Watts of incandescent lighting.
# Sensor turns ON and OFF up to 100' away.
# Sensor detects motion up to 70' away and 180 arc.
New York Times
Atomic Activity in North Korea Raises Concerns
By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
September 12, 2004
http://tinyurl.com/5kb3d
WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 - President Bush and his top advisers have received intelligence reports in recent days describing a confusing series of actions by North Korea that some experts believe could indicate the country is preparing to conduct its first test explosion of a nuclear weapon, according to senior officials with access to the intelligence.
While the indications were viewed as serious enough to warrant a warning to the White House, American intelligence agencies appear divided about the significance of the new North Korean actions, much as they were about the evidence concerning Iraq's alleged weapons stockpiles.
Some analysts in agencies that were the most cautious about the Iraq findings have cautioned that they do not believe the activity detected in North Korea in the past three weeks is necessarily the harbinger of a test. A senior scientist who assesses nuclear intelligence says the new evidence "is not conclusive," but is potentially worrisome.
If successful, a test would end a debate that stretches back more than a decade over whether North Korea has a rudimentary arsenal, as it has boasted in recent years. Some analysts also fear that a test could change the balance of power in Asia, perhaps leading to a new nuclear arms race there.
In interviews on Friday and Saturday, senior officials were reluctant to provide many details of the new activities they have detected, but some of the information appears to have come from satellite intelligence.
One official with access to the intelligence called it "a series of indicators of increased activity that we believe would be associated with a test," saying that the "likelihood" of a North Korean test had risen significantly in just the past four weeks. It was that changed assessment that led to the decision to give an update to President Bush, the officials said.
The activities included the movement of materials around several suspected test sites, including one near a location where intelligence agencies reported last year that conventional explosives were being tested that could compress a plutonium core and set off a nuclear blast. But officials have not seen the classic indicators of preparations at a test site, in which cables are laid to measure an explosion in a deep test pit.
"I'm not sure you would see that in a country that has tunnels everywhere," said one senior official who has reviewed the data. Officials said if North Korea proceeded with a test, it would probably be with a plutonium bomb, perhaps one fabricated from the 8,000 spent nuclear fuel rods that the North has boasted in the past few months have been reprocessed into bomb fuel.
A senior intelligence official noted Saturday that even if "they are doing something, it doesn't mean they will" conduct a test, noting that preparations that the North knew could be detected by the United States might be a scare tactic or negotiating tactic by the North Korean government.
Several officials speculated that the test, if it occurred, could be intended to influence the presidential election, though a senior military official said while "an election surprise" could be the motive, "I'm not sure what that would buy them."
While the intelligence community's experience in Iraq colors how it assesses threats in places like North Korea, the comparisons are inexact. Inspectors have seen and measured the raw material that the North could turn into bomb fuel; the only question is whether they have done so in the 20 months since arms inspectors were ousted. While Iraq denied it has weapons, the North boasts about them - perhaps too loudly, suggesting they may have less than they say.
On the other hand, the divisions within the administration over how to deal with North Korea mirrors some of the old debate about Iraq. Hard-l