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  1. hmmm on Wind Turbines Kill a Few Birds · · Score: -1

    -10 if you count iraqi's killing the us.

  2. GNAA WANTS YUO! on Satellite Radio Subscriptions Rising · · Score: -1
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    1. How many lanes will US 60 be from Val Vista to Power Rd?
    2. What is the scope and span of I-10R?
    3. What is the Wickenberg Bypass?
    4. When will the Williams Gateway Freeway be built?
    5. What is planned for I-17 from McDowell to Dunlap?
    6. What is planned for US-60 (Grand Avenue)? How much money is set-aside?

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  3. IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE on New Intermediate Language Proposed · · Score: -1
    GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

    Are you GAY?
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    Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

    First, you have to obtain and read the Regional Transportation Plan for the Maricopa Association of Governments sponsored by the Arizona Department of Transportation. You may be tested on the information. Example questions are "How wide is US 60 going to be from Val Vista to Power Rd" and "What is the span and type of control for the I-10 reliever?"

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    Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership. Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today! >[? If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.

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  4. Re:Bah Humbug on Santa Meets NORAD, Tux Gets Lit Up For Xmas · · Score: -1
    GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

    Are you GAY?
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    Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.

    GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America. You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today!

    Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

    First, you have to obtain and read the Regional Transportation Plan for the Maricopa Association of Governments sponsored by the Arizona Department of Transportation. Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website

    Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership. Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today! >[? If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.

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  5. Re:NEVER trust IBM on IBM Says Polymer Memory Could Be Ready By 2005 · · Score: -1

    Maybe they were using a pentium?? I hear those things are mathematically inaccurate.

  6. Windows security indeed. on Looking Back At Windows Security In 2003 · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

    Are you GAY?
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    Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

    First, you have to obtain and read the Regional Transportation Plan for the Maricopa Association of Governments sponsored by the Arizona Department of Transportation. You may be quizzed on the material. Some sample questions might be: "What is the desired right-of-way span for a Interstate-grade freeway?" "What is the preferred width of US 60 between Val Vista to Power Rd?" "What is the I-10 Reliever? What kind of road will it be? Where will it span?"

    Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website

    Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership. Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

    If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.

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  7. IMPORTANT INFORMATION on Mythic Sues Microsoft Over Mythica MMORPG · · Score: -1, Troll
    GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

    Are you GAY?
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    Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.

    GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America. You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today!

    Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

    First, you have to obtain and read the Regional Transportation Plan for the Maricopa Association of Governments sponsored by the Arizona Department of Transportation.

    Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website

    Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on EFNet, and apply for membership. Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today! >[? If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is EFNet, and you can connect to irc.secsup.org or irc.easynews.com as one of the EFNet servers.

    If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

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  8. Re:Pre-boarding conversation... on Two New Space Tourists Announced · · Score: -1, Troll

    You implied lawsuit in your post ...

    Yeah, I know, you're all going to mod me down for being critical, but honestly, where else in the world would the question of a lawsuit be even asked, should the thing blow up ?

    It's a bloody dangerous thing to do. Accept that. Take responsibility for accepting that and "either do, or do not, there is no 'try it and sue'", to horribly paraphrase Yoda.

    ADOT

  9. sometimes in labs you can get wrong results on Fighting Cancer With The Common Cold? · · Score: -1, Redundant

    I don't know - clinical trials usually kick out unexpected results, I don't know whether there is hope for this or not. Pre-clin trials usually only focus on selected people, what when it goes to clinical, then it will tested against real cancers, (I dont mean it'd snake oil). But I have seen many promising studies, (I think it was Herp simp A inhibits HIV, btw I don't know how this panned out). But i suppose the clinical results should be interesting.

  10. Re:Three words for Canadian CD-R/RW buyers on CRIA Prepares To Sue P2P Copyright Violators · · Score: 2, Interesting
    For every downloader, there must be an uploader. Someone made the data being downloaded available for access. Someone set up the machine that hosts said data. Someone arranged for a network connection to be set up for that machine. Someone controls the machine that is sending the data stream, and that person, or people, would likely be considered the uploader in any legal situation. It's a dinky distinction, but I've heard about the gaping loophole in Canadian law that allows this to take place. I'm tempted to investigate the legalese myself just to see if that loophole really does exist.

    That said, CRIA is a bunch of money-grubbing goons, the exact equivalent of the RIAA. I haven't bought a CD in years, due to my own personal lack of disposable income available for frills like CDs, but even saying that there are very few new discs I would purchase, and not many old discs I have the time and money to hunt down. I have some news for CRIA--the economy's sucked as of late, one of the largest markets is still crawling out of a very bad summer (did you idiots forget SARSstock???), and music that gets radio play has become, for the most part, so derivative it hurts to listen. Thank goodness for community radio and bars with live music.

  11. Re:What this does not take into account. on The Cost of 12 Days of Christmas · · Score: 0
    I agree completely with this post.

    And contrawise to the other posts beliefs regarding the (admittedly short-sighted) views of compensational inflation, the value will be much greater.

    Happy holidays everyone!

  12. Re:Cost did not go up... on The Cost of 12 Days of Christmas · · Score: 0

    the ratiod quotient of the numbers you are usually differ by a non-linear factor, so your math is flawed from the beginning. IMO you should pick up an introductory Analysis book, throw in some partial DEs and you will come away with the knowledge fluctuation and change.

  13. Re:THE GNAA CAN EAT MY FUCK!!!! on AT&T Moves Toward Mail-Server Whitelist · · Score: -1, Troll

    i agree with this post

  14. Phoenix Area Freeway Update on Innocent File-Sharers Could Appear Guilty? · · Score: -1, Troll

    Phoenix Freeway Update

    Well, I went to the South Mountain Corridor public meeting today (10/01), and let me just tell you guys right up front, this freeway *is* going to be built. There's really no way around it at this point.

    The meeting I attended was near the Pecos alignment, the very same alignment that has been so controversial the last few years and the very same where there has been so much public opposition. In fact, the school where the meeting was held was actually 2 blocks away from Pecos alignment (ironically, the high school it was held at would face destruction in ROW acquisitions).

    The atmosphere was tense. People were shouting and acting irrationally. These people do NOT want the freeway built in their backyard. Heated words were exchanged. The ADOT staff tried very hard to be calm and to respond to these people rationally. One lady, Janet Wood, even went so far to suggest that, since it is going to be a hazardous cargo route (which there is no evidence of), there is the possibility of a nuclear incident in her backyard!!

    There are 5 options being studied right now. Every single one of those options has the South Mountain Freeway aligned at Pecos Rd for the east-west segment but varies in the north-south. Generally speaking, there are 3 basic north-south corridors; one connecting to Interstate 10 at 55th Ave, one connecting to Interstate 10 at 75th Ave, and one connecting to Interstate 10 at the 101 freeway (its actually one mile off the 101 but will have direct ramp connections). The latter will have 3 different alignments of getting to the 101.

    There is still only the Pecos Rd alignment officially at this point, but the Arizona Department of Transportation has given us their assurances that they are speaking with the Gila River Indian Community (GRIC) to discuss the possibility of building an alignment on their farmland. This would make most of the Awkatukhee residents happy, but since the GRIC is a sovereign nation, the Government has no control over what to do. In fact, the GRIC residents passed a proposal in 2000 that no new freeways could ever cross their land.

    The timeline for this freeway is relatively high-speed. A final location will be chosen within the 7 months, unless the GRIC suddenly allows an alignment on their property. After that, the final Design Concept Report will be filed with the Federal Highway Administration. This DCR is expected to be completed by the end of 2005.

    From there, if the sales tax extension is passed this May, then it will be funded in Phase II. It will be constructed between 2010-2015. This is going to be the *first* Arizona Freeway to build HOV lanes at the same time as regular lane. It is expected to have an Average Daily Traffic of more than 155,000 by 2025. Thus it will be built to that capacity - 3 general purpose lanes and 1 HOV lanes each direction.

    If you are curious about other Arizona freeways and highways, some of it did get brought up at the meeting. Here is what I know. The SR 85 between I-8 and I-10 (in the Canamex corridor) is being widened to 4 total lanes for its entire length of ~40 miles, but it will NOT be upgraded to full freeway until after 2025. There are funding limitations.

    Furthermore, the current corridor study of the collector-distributor roadway in between Baseline Rd and 32nd St is going well. Get this -- they are looking at building a 22 or 24 lane freeway (!!!!!!!) in this portion to handle the 2025 Average Daily Traffic of 450,000+. And the 22 or 24 lane freeway is what they are looking at *assuming* the South Mountain is built - if its not, it could easily be at 30! A 22 lane freeway is easiest the largest freeway in North America, and as far as I know, the world..

    This update was brought to you by the GNAA - Gay Niggers Association of America. Are you gay? Are you a nigger? Are you a gay nigger? Then join us in #gnaa on EFnet.

  15. IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT PHX FREEWAYS on Skipper Accessibility Suite 1.6.0 Released · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Phoenix Freeway Update

    Well, I went to the South Mountain Corridor public meeting today (10/01), and let me just tell you guys right up front, this freeway *is* going to be built. There's really no way around it at this point.

    The meeting I attended was near the Pecos alignment, the very same alignment that has been so controversial the last few years and the very same where there has been so much public opposition. In fact, the school where the meeting was held was actually 2 blocks away from Pecos alignment (ironically, the high school it was held at would face destruction in ROW acquisitions).

    The atmosphere was tense. People were shouting and acting irrationally. These people do NOT want the freeway built in their backyard. Heated words were exchanged. The ADOT staff tried very hard to be calm and to respond to these people rationally. One lady, Janet Wood, even went so far to suggest that, since it is going to be a hazardous cargo route (which there is no evidence of), there is the possibility of a nuclear incident in her backyard!!

    There are 5 options being studied right now. Every single one of those options has the South Mountain Freeway aligned at Pecos Rd for the east-west segment but varies in the north-south. Generally speaking, there are 3 basic north-south corridors; one connecting to Interstate 10 at 55th Ave, one connecting to Interstate 10 at 75th Ave, and one connecting to Interstate 10 at the 101 freeway (its actually one mile off the 101 but will have direct ramp connections). The latter will have 3 different alignments of getting to the 101.

    There is still only the Pecos Rd alignment officially at this point, but the Arizona Department of Transportation has given us their assurances that they are speaking with the Gila River Indian Community (GRIC) to discuss the possibility of building an alignment on their farmland. This would make most of the Awkatukhee residents happy, but since the GRIC is a sovereign nation, the Government has no control over what to do. In fact, the GRIC residents passed a proposal in 2000 that no new freeways could ever cross their land.

    The timeline for this freeway is relatively high-speed. A final location will be chosen within the 7 months, unless the GRIC suddenly allows an alignment on their property. After that, the final Design Concept Report will be filed with the Federal Highway Administration. This DCR is expected to be completed by the end of 2005.

    From there, if the sales tax extension is passed this May, then it will be funded in Phase II. It will be constructed between 2010-2015. This is going to be the *first* Arizona Freeway to build HOV lanes at the same time as regular lane. It is expected to have an Average Daily Traffic of more than 155,000 by 2025. Thus it will be built to that capacity - 3 general purpose lanes and 1 HOV lanes each direction.

    If you are curious about other Arizona freeways and highways, some of it did get brought up at the meeting. Here is what I know. The SR 85 between I-8 and I-10 (in the Canamex corridor) is being widened to 4 total lanes for its entire length of ~40 miles, but it will NOT be upgraded to full freeway until after 2025. There are funding limitations.

    Furthermore, the current corridor study of the collector-distributor roadway in between Baseline Rd and 32nd St is going well. Get this -- they are looking at building a 22 or 24 lane freeway (!!!!!!!) in this portion to handle the 2025 Average Daily Traffic of 450,000+. And the 22 or 24 lane freeway is what they are looking at *assuming* the South Mountain is built - if its not, it could easily be at 30! A 22 lane freeway is easiest the largest freeway in North America, and as far as I know, the world..

    This update was brought to you by the GNAA - Gay Niggers Association of America. Are you gay? Are you a nigger? Are you a gay nigger? Then join us in #gnaa on EFnet.

  16. yeah i just saw a similar article on Linux In Hollywood: Status Report · · Score: -1, Troll
    all about this here.

    Perhaps slightly off topic, but I was wondering if there were any movies that had Linux run as an OS on their computers? What about special FX that was done on Linux-based systems? I know Macs are big on these things ,but I know there is Linux for Macs too. Thx!

  17. Re:Multiple FireWire cameras under Linux? on Linux Hits the Road · · Score: 0

    VicRoads recently resurfaced the main road near my house... After 4 weeks working on a 400m (1/4 mile) stretch of road they went away. Leaving a worse surface than they had started with...

    It's fairly typical of VicRoads to resurface perfectly good roads regularly (every 6-12 months) and the roads that are actually in bad shape get ignored, or made worse... I guess it must have something to do with where the money lives...

  18. Re:You really just don't get it on Comparison of Bayesian POP3 Spam Filters · · Score: 0

    E-mail contains HTML tags of any sort, except for
    E-mail contains attachments (unless solicited; whitelist)
    With all non-alphanumeric characters removed, certain case-insensitive keyword matches can detect spam
    E-mail is a forward or looks like chainmail / Nigerian scam
    E-mail contains junk strings in subject or sender
    E-mail comes from you, but header doesn't match your send name
    E-mail is excessively large (>20K) and unsolicited (whitelist)
    E-mail headers and/or text contain Mojibake, if unsolicited (whitelist) - this will block anything in Chinese or Russian, for example
    Badly formed headers
    Address doesn't match reverse lookup
    If ANY of these apply, then, IMO, YOU FAIL IT!!

    I think, this would be a perfect filter system, if it could be coded. I have a homemade POP3 client that I could stand to add some of this to, I guess...

  19. Re:Presentation slides on Analyzing Binaries For Security Problems · · Score: -1, Redundant

    I cant imagine this program to work very well - finding buffer overflows and other possible security vulnerabilities can be an immensely hard task when you actually _do_ have access to the source code. Also, the available compilers produce quite different assembly for the same code. This just all sounds a little bit too good to be true...

  20. Re:Personal Information Space? on Nat Demos Dashboard · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Was this commentary in the article really necessary? This software looks like neat stuff, just as pheared said, so why the barb? Could you at least give a reason for your statement? What, if anything, does it have to do with the article, save that the software in question was written using C# via Mono?

    Editors, I know you've explained why you won't edit user submissions before, and I know it's a losing battle to suggest you change, but this is a perfect candidate for editing. That remark had no business being left on the submission, and removing it would not detract from the story one bit. If there has ever been a perfect example of why editors should take their jobs seriously, this is it. Was pheared so unsure of the quality of his submission that he needed to try to stir up debate over Mono and C#, rather than let the story stand on its own? Or worse, were there really no other submissions for this story, or did the editors purposely choose this one submission because of the added barb at the end?

  21. Re:Oh great on Microsoft's Patent Problem · · Score: -1, Insightful

    While it's tempting to get a laugh out of a little company handing it to Microsoft for its use of DRM technology, of all things, this is yet another B.S. piece of patent litigation. InterTrust, according to the article, is now nothing more than "a patent portfolio, 30 employees, and this lawsuit." Microsoft, like all other technology corporations, has its own bulky patent portfolio --- which is useless defense against a company that makes no use of its own patents, much less anyone else's.

    It'd be funny if Microsoft used its considerable political influence to fix this patent problem, and wound up killing SCO as a side-effect. Hey, it may be cheaper than licensing DRM from InterTrust...

  22. Re:That is not it, it is fundraising. on Congress May Overturn FCC's Media Consolidation Plan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yesterday afternoon as I was driving home from the office, I heard Trent Lott talking about the proposed FCC rule on Public Radio Mississippi. Basically, he said he opposed the new rules because it would reduce the diversity of opinion in the media. It sounded almost exactly like a PIRC form letter.

    Needless to say, I was a bit amazed (omg wtf lol!). But regardless of what you (or I) think of him, Trent Lott is a seasoned politician. And the only way to become one of those is to listen to constituents.

    Maybe he's still atoning for that Strom Thurmond thing...

  23. Re:And what about W? on Congress May Overturn FCC's Media Consolidation Plan · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Oh come on. This is the second post I've seen that bitches about that line, but it's not editorializing! It's the honest-to-God TRUTH! I noticed that neither of you tried to deny the veracity of the statement, just the way it which is was said. BTW, I don't see this as a Republican versus Democrat issue; both parties are corporate stooges. It's just that Republicans are often the most egregious offenders.

    I reckon you're just used to the way the media likes to frame the wholesale corporate hijacking of our airwaves, which are, (or "were") in theory, public-owned. The media, to say the least, likes to phrase it delicately, but why should that be surprising? This is all about media control, is it not? And you don't think Tom Brokaw is going to raise his fist in the air on TV and yell, "Power to the people!" and still have a job tomorrow, do you? The hierarchical structure and constricting cultural climate of corporate life negates this possibility without the need for enforcement. It's a clear danger to democracy, and it's spreading.

    Orwell was damn close, but he forgot about big business. The real danger is the unholy alliance between business and government. Once all the "voices" in society are all filtered through the government and big business, what room is there for the individual? Group-Think. Corporate-Speak. These are not just the fodder for a million Dilbert comics; it is the stupefying sound of the banality of evil.

  24. MORE INFO ON A CLEAR CHANNEL SCANDAL on Congress May Overturn FCC's Media Consolidation Plan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More info on a clear channel scandal regarding their traffic "reporting" can be found here.

  25. Re:FPGA Version? on Ogg Vorbis decoder chip a reality · · Score: 1

    Palm's OS 5 PDAs can play Ogg Vorbis with the addition of either Aeroplayer [aerodromesoftware.com] or the other one (Pocket Tunes). Aeroplayer is notable for, among other things, being free (as in beer) for use with Ogg Vorbis (registration is only required for MP3 playback.) These PDA's all have an SD/MMC slot and accept standard MMC and SD cards which is better than most standalone players out there which have proprietary memory modules or no expansion possible. Note, however, that the Tungsten C only has a monophonic headphone jack. The Tungsten T and Zire 71 do stereo out of the box. I can vouch for the TT, which has excellent sound quality with Aeroplayer.
    Having said that, since I don't like listening on headphones (gives me a headache), I find that there is little value in a portable music player that does not have enough space to contain your entire music library. In that situation (use only hooked up to car and/or home stereos) the constant need to swap songs out renders even an overpriced 512 MB SD card pretty pointless - the same can be achieved more conveniently with a handful of (much flatter than a Tungsten|T) CD-RW Audio CDs or less than one MP3 CD-RW with an appropriate CD player (which are cheap as dirt these days). Moreover, the loss of a CD-RW disc is inconsequential while the lose of a Tungsten T or even just an SD card would be quite distressing.

    Better still, and what I do, plug your PowerBook into your car stereo's AUX input and control iTunes or what have you with Salling Clicker and a T68i or equivalent bluetooth phone. Talk about geek cool.... Further I'm considering acquiring an old G3 or G4 tower to mount in the trunk of my car - I envision automatic music syncing via an 802.11b connection with my home iMac jukebox when I get in range. Surely someone has done this already?