this absolutely cannot happen without Apple Computer working out a new agreement with Apple Records. Haven't heard anything about their latest lawsuit recently, but I would hope each side would realize the market waiting to be tapped...
You've glazed right over the crucial difference. Users logged in as an admin on Windows (almost everyone basically) do not have to authenticate to install system updates. OS X admins *must* authenticate to install system updates (and system software in general).
You are correct that the system updates function essentially identically in most other regards. The gp has shockingly little knowledge of windows automatic updates and I wish there were enough room in his little windows-free bubble for me too.
you've never reread a book? i've reread my copy of Dune so many times (at least every few years) since I first read it in the 7th grade that the cover's fallen off... can i include the hours that I've spent discussing and thinking about Dune as well? paperback books (esp. at the Salvation Army or a library book sale) blow CDs out of the water.
pardon, but you don't understand what we're talking about. We know and *use* X11 on OS X all the time. What we mean is that we can't 'ssh -XC user@remoteOSXhost/Applications/Aqua.app' and expect the Aqua window to pop up on the localhost. You must resort to VNC to control an Aqua app on a remote machine and VNC is a total kludge. I would like to point out (lest you misunderstand further) that X11 apps installed on OS X (can you say fink install Xapp?) with X11Forwarding set to yes in/etc/sshd_config works just as expected.
right on. WTF was Apple thinking writing a WM in the late 90s without consideration for remote display. ssh -X and Windows RDC are both better than the VNC server/client that Apple has made us rely upon.
Sorry, you picked the wrong person to front on. I happen to have been authenticating and automounting home directories off a RHEL 3 file server in an OS X lab for the last year and a half and it has been extremely stable.
I will assume that I am not being trolled and attempt a meaningful response. I know there are several methods for setting up automounts on OS X and I *don't* use amd. I use the Automount via File method described here. I find this way let's me use the same maps in both the linux and OS X labs (although I do add the -P flag on OS X to make it use a "secure" port). I can't truly troubleshoot your amd problem, but I can make a guess that the Finder was your real problem and not OS X. The Finder is in many ways the most frustrating leftover from OS 9. Would you do me a favor and try to repeat your AMD lockup? I bet you that you can ssh into the OS X box while the Finder's giving you the SBBOD and issue a 'killall Finder'. If you can browse the amd mountpoint from the CLI, then you know it's the Finder. I very infrequently resort to power cycling any Mac running OS X. No more often than I'd do for my Linux lab. Your post reminds me of one of the professors that asked to test out a linux box from me. He came back the next day and had this proud look on his face as he told me that he'd *crashed* linux. Of course, he'd done nothing of the sort. He just didn't know how to restart the X Server! Of course, I do long for virtual consoles on OS X- $deity forbid we be without another box to ssh from to rescue the hung Mac:-( To sum up- I wouldn't compare OS X to Solaris. Solaris has been refined many times over as a server OS while OS X is aimed at the desktop (where I feel it really trounces the Solaris desktop). You are however, using anecdotal evidence from one application to judge an entire OS unstable and I think you need to reevaluate that before you draw any other rash conclusions from it. Pardon the gruff tones at the end- it's late here and I'm too tired to soften my language for general consumption.
You're a little hasty calling OS X lame on the desktop and server.
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OS X covers a much wider range of uses than any other *nix out there. On the desktop it can run most of the X11 sw out there + the big name sw from Adobe, MS, Macromedia, etc. On the server, you can tweak it just like any other OSS *nix since you have a CLI and free access to the source. OTOH, the GUI is an option for those lacking your elite hacking skills who would have used MS Server but heard this was better...
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And with the educational discount that comes to $449 + tax. I'll take my first iPod please...
You seem to know a good amount about IBM products. Can you elaborate how this compares to an xServe? Let me disclose that I just ordered a dual 2.3GHz xServe cluster node with an education discount at $2500 + ~$1000 for 4GB of 3rd party RAM. Perusing your link I noticed the following differences:
slightly faster proc in the xServe
PC2700 ECC in the JS20 vs PC3200 ECC in the xServe
4 DIMM slots in the JS20 vs 8 slots...
2 HD bays vs 1 HD bay
some failover mumbo jumbo vs less failover mumbo jumbo
What else does the JS20 bring to the table that I haven't picked up? Feel free to discuss space, heat, power and hardware reliablity intangibles. I'm not very familiar with blades- please don't think I'm trolling.
This is informative? What have you mods been drinking? He ends the post asking "right?" for chrissakes! I will never cease to be amazed by the FUD spread about the name change from Red Hat ? to Fedora ?. Besides the change of name, virtually everything has remained the same. Got it? good...
Your comment doesn't make much sense in light of the fact that I admit I have a Kensington 2 button optical scroll wheel mouse for my PowerMac and that I still end up using those other clicks about as often as I would a control click. In short- I save little time by having a right click. Furthermore, I explicitly state that I think my PB is the best set up since I can/any/ click with one hand and use SideTrack as my scroll wheel.
What I really can't understand is why anti-Apple zealots insist on program interfaces that bury functionality under a right-click. I *hate* taking my hands off the keyboard. I only use the scroll wheel on my desktop if my hand is already on the mouse. Otherwise my pinky will be headed for the page down key or even better, my thumb to the space bar if a text field doesn't have focus. The consistency of the keystrokes across Mac apps saves so much more time than some silly second button and I wish you all would wake up, but IHBT. HAND
MS Office on the Mac is *not* the same as its Windows counterpart. The MS Mac Business Unit wrote it for the Mac specifically and hence for a one-button mouse. Don't forget that Word was a Mac app originally.
You've brought attention to another sophisticated program that thought long and hard and decided to break with the Apple Human Interface Guidelines wrt mice. I'm sure they didn't take this decision lightly and that it greatly improves the usability of their program. However, this is not a reason to include multi-button mice by default. Imagine the untold number of apps that would start shunting off functionality onto
those other buttons rather than implement it in a clearer manner. The consistency of functionality across Mac applications that I hold in the highest regard would be severely compromised if I had to click three ways on ever UI element in new programs to figure out just what a program does. I believe that programs which require multi-button mice should be the exception and not the rule.
OTOH, I can control click with one hand very easily on my PB. If your gf's hands are too small to do even that, maybe Sticky Keys would help her out. I find them invaluable when I have to use the computer single-handed;-D They can be turned on in System Preferences - Universal Access - Keyboard. With a PB, there is very little reason for your hands to be further than three inches from the keyboard at all times.
The one thing the Mac mouse is really missing is a scroll wheel. I admit that I do have a 2-button scroll wheel mouse on my desktop. But I rarely use the right button. I probably shift click or command click just as often or more than I need to right [control] click. Perhaps I should just get a five button mouse to cover those other types of clicks... Nah- I just want my scroll wheel! Check out SideTrack that another poster mentioned. It's the reason I feel that my PB with the trackpad and button right there is in many ways better than my keyboard and separate two-button scroll wheel mouse. They're so close that I can't help but always have my fingers in proper position to do EVERYTHING.
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this absolutely cannot happen without Apple Computer working out a new agreement with Apple Records. Haven't heard anything about their latest lawsuit recently, but I would hope each side would realize the market waiting to be tapped...
because you're just that awesome.
if you want something done, do it yourself or keep it to yourself.
I guess we should all adopt windows too, right?
You've glazed right over the crucial difference. Users logged in as an admin on Windows (almost everyone basically) do not have to authenticate to install system updates. OS X admins *must* authenticate to install system updates (and system software in general).
You are correct that the system updates function essentially identically in most other regards. The gp has shockingly little knowledge of windows automatic updates and I wish there were enough room in his little windows-free bubble for me too.
Why did you feed the *explicit* troll?
Can you tell me where the checkbox to turn off eye candy is? I found the classic theme checkbox, but what is this theme service?
right on- MOD PARENT UP
what kind of risk? are the risks similar to the risks of X11 improperly locked down? would ssh tunnels have made it more secure?
we hates you and we wish you would die! that's after you give us the ip, l, and p to the precious of course...
you've never reread a book? i've reread my copy of Dune so many times (at least every few years) since I first read it in the 7th grade that the cover's fallen off... can i include the hours that I've spent discussing and thinking about Dune as well? paperback books (esp. at the Salvation Army or a library book sale) blow CDs out of the water.
pardon, but you don't understand what we're talking about. We know and *use* X11 on OS X all the time. What we mean is that we can't 'ssh -XC user@remoteOSXhost /Applications/Aqua.app' and expect the Aqua window to pop up on the localhost. You must resort to VNC to control an Aqua app on a remote machine and VNC is a total kludge. I would like to point out (lest you misunderstand further) that X11 apps installed on OS X (can you say fink install Xapp?) with X11Forwarding set to yes in /etc/sshd_config works just as expected.
right on. WTF was Apple thinking writing a WM in the late 90s without consideration for remote display. ssh -X and Windows RDC are both better than the VNC server/client that Apple has made us rely upon.
I will assume that I am not being trolled and attempt a meaningful response. I know there are several methods for setting up automounts on OS X and I *don't* use amd. I use the Automount via File method described here. I find this way let's me use the same maps in both the linux and OS X labs (although I do add the -P flag on OS X to make it use a "secure" port). :-(
I can't truly troubleshoot your amd problem, but I can make a guess that the Finder was your real problem and not OS X. The Finder is in many ways the most frustrating leftover from OS 9. Would you do me a favor and try to repeat your AMD lockup? I bet you that you can ssh into the OS X box while the Finder's giving you the SBBOD and issue a 'killall Finder'. If you can browse the amd mountpoint from the CLI, then you know it's the Finder. I very infrequently resort to power cycling any Mac running OS X. No more often than I'd do for my Linux lab. Your post reminds me of one of the professors that asked to test out a linux box from me. He came back the next day and had this proud look on his face as he told me that he'd *crashed* linux. Of course, he'd done nothing of the sort. He just didn't know how to restart the X Server! Of course, I do long for virtual consoles on OS X- $deity forbid we be without another box to ssh from to rescue the hung Mac
To sum up- I wouldn't compare OS X to Solaris. Solaris has been refined many times over as a server OS while OS X is aimed at the desktop (where I feel it really trounces the Solaris desktop). You are however, using anecdotal evidence from one application to judge an entire OS unstable and I think you need to reevaluate that before you draw any other rash conclusions from it. Pardon the gruff tones at the end- it's late here and I'm too tired to soften my language for general consumption.
Got any references so that I can help shut those mac fanboys up once and for all instead of appearing like some FUD spouting hater?
How old do you think OS X is? Did you disqualify its NeXTStep ancestry for any particular reason?
What about emusic? Of course, selling only independent music, they have little to fear from RIAA pressure...
You're a little hasty calling OS X lame on the desktop and server. Browse here and here and here. OS X covers a much wider range of uses than any other *nix out there. On the desktop it can run most of the X11 sw out there + the big name sw from Adobe, MS, Macromedia, etc. On the server, you can tweak it just like any other OSS *nix since you have a CLI and free access to the source. OTOH, the GUI is an option for those lacking your elite hacking skills who would have used MS Server but heard this was better...
And with the educational discount that comes to $449 + tax. I'll take my first iPod please...
slightly faster proc in the xServe
PC2700 ECC in the JS20 vs PC3200 ECC in the xServe
4 DIMM slots in the JS20 vs 8 slots...
2 HD bays vs 1 HD bay
some failover mumbo jumbo vs less failover mumbo jumbo
What else does the JS20 bring to the table that I haven't picked up? Feel free to discuss space, heat, power and hardware reliablity intangibles. I'm not very familiar with blades- please don't think I'm trolling.
aiieeee! my head just imploded. i commend you for investigating further and posting a correction to /. if only more slashbots would be so noble...
This is informative? What have you mods been drinking? He ends the post asking "right?" for chrissakes!
I will never cease to be amazed by the FUD spread about the name change from Red Hat ? to Fedora ?. Besides the change of name, virtually everything has remained the same. Got it? good...
What I really can't understand is why anti-Apple zealots insist on program interfaces that bury functionality under a right-click. I *hate* taking my hands off the keyboard. I only use the scroll wheel on my desktop if my hand is already on the mouse. Otherwise my pinky will be headed for the page down key or even better, my thumb to the space bar if a text field doesn't have focus. The consistency of the keystrokes across Mac apps saves so much more time than some silly second button and I wish you all would wake up, but IHBT. HAND
You've brought attention to another sophisticated program that thought long and hard and decided to break with the Apple Human Interface Guidelines wrt mice. I'm sure they didn't take this decision lightly and that it greatly improves the usability of their program. However, this is not a reason to include multi-button mice by default. Imagine the untold number of apps that would start shunting off functionality onto those other buttons rather than implement it in a clearer manner. The consistency of functionality across Mac applications that I hold in the highest regard would be severely compromised if I had to click three ways on ever UI element in new programs to figure out just what a program does. I believe that programs which require multi-button mice should be the exception and not the rule.
OTOH, I can control click with one hand very easily on my PB. If your gf's hands are too small to do even that, maybe Sticky Keys would help her out. I find them invaluable when I have to use the computer single-handed ;-D They can be turned on in System Preferences - Universal Access - Keyboard. With a PB, there is very little reason for your hands to be further than three inches from the keyboard at all times.
The one thing the Mac mouse is really missing is a scroll wheel. I admit that I do have a 2-button scroll wheel mouse on my desktop. But I rarely use the right button. I probably shift click or command click just as often or more than I need to right [control] click. Perhaps I should just get a five button mouse to cover those other types of clicks... Nah- I just want my scroll wheel! Check out SideTrack that another poster mentioned. It's the reason I feel that my PB with the trackpad and button right there is in many ways better than my keyboard and separate two-button scroll wheel mouse. They're so close that I can't help but always have my fingers in proper position to do EVERYTHING.
[nitpick]it actually has 32MB...[/nitpick]