But they can run Linux! The old PowerMacs make great servers and the iMac's are great thin clients (or servers if you don't mind the monitor). OS X is not the end all be all that all these fanboys make out. Good hardware is good hardware. The fact that it's PPC also adds a little security through obscurity should you give it a public ip. Most exploits are calculated for x86 hardware.
Funny you should mention that, but Safari had a similar exploit around last May.
While I love my PowerBook and OS X (I've even achieved mythical "fanboy" status in several forums),
let's not forget that all software has bugs and more will invariably be found. The best thing that we can do is promote a healthy software ecosystem so that those without their head up their asses can switch to the alternative when any one piece of software has a dangerous exploit in the wild. I personally use Safari, Firefox and Camino regularly. If MS had continued updating IE for the Mac, I might consider using it still. But without tab support, it's dead to me...
That's not an explanation, it's an excuse! Furthermore, it gives no insight into the phenomena being examined. We can deduce nothing further about our universe from such an explanation. I doubt I would have a cell phone or a computer to write this post if science was left in the hands of people theorizing that "God did it."
I don't believe FreeBSD runs on New World Macs [yet]. I'd be happy to browse a URL that states otherwise.
I run gentoo and yellow dog as well as OS X on my PowerBook. I'll be adding NetBSD 2 and OpenBSD 3.6 over the holidays [if I could just get away for a bit]. I can't tell you how excited I would be to have each one available without having to reboot. Right now the best I can do is X running on ctrl-alt-f7 and Mac-on-Linux on ctrl-alt-f8. I nfs export my home directory to the virtual MOL network interface so that I can manipulate the same files no matter which GUI I'm using. It's definitely a bit of a kludge, but this looks like a great solution. I just wonder which OS I'll use as the file server for my/home...
P.S. Good point about the mindless apple dittoheads. That was really constructive to your argument. As you can see, I'm one mac fanboy who agrees with you about partitioning. Just be more careful in the future- with MacWorld around the corner, the mac fanboys will be in full swing for the next month or so.
I wonder how long the 16 year old knew it was there and if she'd "helped" herself to any of that blow. It just goes to show, never let your kids in on the location of your stash...
People rarely recognize when their poor math skills jump up and bite them in the butt. I'm a physics BA who put himself through college dealing cards at a casino. The most overlooked field of mathematics that would benefit most people these days is definitely statistics. Casinos and lotteries are a tax preying on the innumeracy of the majority of the US citizenry. We'll know that we're getting better at teaching mathematics when revenue from the lotto and casinos begin to dry up...
Where is the hardware poweroff button on your PC? Same as the poweron button- you just hold it down longer. Since input to any button will turn the iPod on, Apple chose to make holding down the Play button the poweroff button. RTFM.
You're wrong. The touchpads are made by Synaptic and are tap-sensitive. Taps are turned off by default and can be enabled in System Preferences.
The "half-assed HCI theory" is there to discourage ambiguous input. When I have taps enabled, far too often I find touching the trackpad selects/deselects something when I didn't want it to. This is esp. annoying when my big ass hands are typing in a text field and my thumb knuckle grazes the trackpad. This switches the window- unacceptable! I'll take the unambiguous mouse click over taps everyday and am glad that it's disabled by default.
I know we don't generally care who is elected in other countries, and even if we do..we know it isn't our business who they elect for themselves.
Right! Why would the U.S. stick their nose in an election in some pathetic third world country?! *sticks head up ass and finds a clue* oh... our government has been doing *just* that for decades. hmmmph- go figure...
To navigate to the Apple education store, DON'T start in the store. From the main page, select Education from the sub-nav. In the upper right corner, select "Click." From here you will be asked to select your affiliated university and if it's a personal or uni purchase.
I agree this is more confusing than it need be, but then again- the prices are generally hundreds of dollars lower and they never seem to check your affiliation. So yeah- I would make it difficult to find too...
ps Apple's education discount on the Xserve dual processor compute node is $500 or roughly 16% off!
This sounds like a post from Darrin Reed himself. Only Darrin Reed would point out any relationship betweebn OpenBSD and himself. Darrin Reed =? epine (68316)
I disagree with your opinion about Paul Webb's comments concerning Theo. I have been a lurker on misc@openbsd.org for over a year now and have been witness to several of his tirades. He has shown little patience as he needlessly flamed several n00bs off the list in my short tenure.
I believe OpenBSD is a very good distro, but failing to warn/. linux wannabe BSD n00bs about Theo and his behavior would make the misc list run red for the next month. I think Paul has done a service to Theo, the misc list and n00bs all around by emphasizing that OpenBSD is not for those who fsck around...
sshd is not turned on by default. the only daemon that *may* be on is ntpd if you choose to use apple time servers during installation...
a typical user with admin privileges would have to click a button to turn on sshd in System Preferences and then fire up Terminal.app and issue a 'sudo passwd' to enable the root account or do it the GUI way with NetInfo.app. Does this sound like a typical user to you? nah... didn't think so.
Go ahead and drop the monitor from your bottomline. What about the complete absence of any software on this homebrew of yours? How much would you have to pay to get an OS comparable to OS X and the bundled iLife apps? I know this is/. and we are all Linux guru's here, but my last Mac purchase was motivated purely by OS X. Not the hardware.
I could have tweaked and compiled my way to the 1337357 gentoo box with your hardware then ripped it down and done it again when the new distro of the month comes along (did someone say yoper?). But OS X is solid, has a simple software update system, runs MS Office, Dreamweaver, Photoshop and still gives me ssh, X11 and all that *nix goodness for running the Linux server farm. I wanted to beat the Apple tax so bad that I considered a DIY system but gave up when I had to quantify how much OS X was worth to me. It is worth so much more to me than the almost any difference you could contrive with a cheap version of windows xp pro and some media apps thrown onto your bottomline. It cannot be compared to any other OS package out there in terms of polish and utility. And thems my zealoutous $.02...
What he means is that although he's paid a premium for his "kit", he's had the pleasure of using Rendezvous in action for almost two years now... [and trust me, it is a pure delight. It's so pervasive and stable that I almost always forget to mention it as one of OS X's stronger features when proselytizing to the "unwashed heathens" - j/k ]
I just purchased my first new Mac in 3 years [no, my 3year old DP800 is still more than powerful enough to be my main machine, it just wasn't portable *enough*]. I weighed many options and nearly went delerious trying to beat the Apple tax and all their silly pre-configured options. I seriously looked at one of those nice AMD64 laptops for a whole afternoon. But while I would have saved on the kit, I wouldn't be able to run an OS that somehow always manages to stay at or near the top of all the features with little to no hassle to set up and use. After the delerium abated, I settled on a stripped down 15" PBG4 1.33GHz tricked out with 3rd party RAM. I swear that the desire to lick my backlit keyboard in the dark still has not abated...
But Xgrid uses the BEEP protocol for all communication, which is open, and allowed this project to interoperate easily. The closed source part of Xgrid is just a Cocoa GUI that was thrown together with Interface Builder. This made it a lot easier to interoperate than say, the nasty Exchange/Outlook communication combo.
If Apple breaks this intentionally (meaning not for adding significant, enhanced functionality) in their next release, I will stand with you as an anti-Apple nay-saying zealot and deride them all up and down/.
-Potentially recovering Mac zealot (it's so hard with WWDC right around the corner:-( )
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But they can run Linux! The old PowerMacs make great servers and the iMac's are great thin clients (or servers if you don't mind the monitor). OS X is not the end all be all that all these fanboys make out. Good hardware is good hardware. The fact that it's PPC also adds a little security through obscurity should you give it a public ip. Most exploits are calculated for x86 hardware.
Funny you should mention that, but Safari had a similar exploit around last May. While I love my PowerBook and OS X (I've even achieved mythical "fanboy" status in several forums), let's not forget that all software has bugs and more will invariably be found. The best thing that we can do is promote a healthy software ecosystem so that those without their head up their asses can switch to the alternative when any one piece of software has a dangerous exploit in the wild. I personally use Safari, Firefox and Camino regularly. If MS had continued updating IE for the Mac, I might consider using it still. But without tab support, it's dead to me...
That's not an explanation, it's an excuse! Furthermore, it gives no insight into the phenomena being examined. We can deduce nothing further about our universe from such an explanation. I doubt I would have a cell phone or a computer to write this post if science was left in the hands of people theorizing that "God did it."
Check out this rage... The humans win, nuff said.
If I hadn't already posted in this thread I would be modding you most 'Interesting'...
I run gentoo and yellow dog as well as OS X on my PowerBook. I'll be adding NetBSD 2 and OpenBSD 3.6 over the holidays [if I could just get away for a bit]. I can't tell you how excited I would be to have each one available without having to reboot. Right now the best I can do is X running on ctrl-alt-f7 and Mac-on-Linux on ctrl-alt-f8. I nfs export my home directory to the virtual MOL network interface so that I can manipulate the same files no matter which GUI I'm using. It's definitely a bit of a kludge, but this looks like a great solution. I just wonder which OS I'll use as the file server for my /home...
P.S. Good point about the mindless apple dittoheads. That was really constructive to your argument. As you can see, I'm one mac fanboy who agrees with you about partitioning. Just be more careful in the future- with MacWorld around the corner, the mac fanboys will be in full swing for the next month or so.
I wonder how long the 16 year old knew it was there and if she'd "helped" herself to any of that blow. It just goes to show, never let your kids in on the location of your stash...
People rarely recognize when their poor math skills jump up and bite them in the butt. I'm a physics BA who put himself through college dealing cards at a casino. The most overlooked field of mathematics that would benefit most people these days is definitely statistics. Casinos and lotteries are a tax preying on the innumeracy of the majority of the US citizenry. We'll know that we're getting better at teaching mathematics when revenue from the lotto and casinos begin to dry up...
there's nothing wrong with /bin/rm on OS X...
Where is the hardware poweroff button on your PC? Same as the poweron button- you just hold it down longer. Since input to any button will turn the iPod on, Apple chose to make holding down the Play button the poweroff button. RTFM.
The "half-assed HCI theory" is there to discourage ambiguous input. When I have taps enabled, far too often I find touching the trackpad selects/deselects something when I didn't want it to. This is esp. annoying when my big ass hands are typing in a text field and my thumb knuckle grazes the trackpad. This switches the window- unacceptable! I'll take the unambiguous mouse click over taps everyday and am glad that it's disabled by default.
Why don't we just have a federal election holiday?
Right! Why would the U.S. stick their nose in an election in some pathetic third world country?! *sticks head up ass and finds a clue* oh... our government has been doing *just* that for decades. hmmmph- go figure...
so when are you going to enlist?
I agree this is more confusing than it need be, but then again- the prices are generally hundreds of dollars lower and they never seem to check your affiliation. So yeah- I would make it difficult to find too...
ps Apple's education discount on the Xserve dual processor compute node is $500 or roughly 16% off!
ps overrated mods are ruthless...
I believe OpenBSD is a very good distro, but failing to warn /. linux wannabe BSD n00bs about Theo and his behavior would make the misc list run red for the next month. I think Paul has done a service to Theo, the misc list and n00bs all around by emphasizing that OpenBSD is not for those who fsck around...
sshd is not turned on by default. the only daemon that *may* be on is ntpd if you choose to use apple time servers during installation... a typical user with admin privileges would have to click a button to turn on sshd in System Preferences and then fire up Terminal.app and issue a 'sudo passwd' to enable the root account or do it the GUI way with NetInfo.app. Does this sound like a typical user to you? nah... didn't think so.
If he says "mes amis" one more time... why I orta
I could have tweaked and compiled my way to the 1337357 gentoo box with your hardware then ripped it down and done it again when the new distro of the month comes along (did someone say yoper?). But OS X is solid, has a simple software update system, runs MS Office, Dreamweaver, Photoshop and still gives me ssh, X11 and all that *nix goodness for running the Linux server farm. I wanted to beat the Apple tax so bad that I considered a DIY system but gave up when I had to quantify how much OS X was worth to me. It is worth so much more to me than the almost any difference you could contrive with a cheap version of windows xp pro and some media apps thrown onto your bottomline. It cannot be compared to any other OS package out there in terms of polish and utility. And thems my zealoutous $.02...
in my labs- users logged in on the console can reboot without sudo. Anything less would be uncivilized!
(ps man console.apps and pam_console)
sorry, that's /Volumes/$iPod_Name/
Mount an iPod and have a look in /Volumes// sometime with Terminal.app . It's all there...
I just purchased my first new Mac in 3 years [no, my 3year old DP800 is still more than powerful enough to be my main machine, it just wasn't portable *enough*]. I weighed many options and nearly went delerious trying to beat the Apple tax and all their silly pre-configured options. I seriously looked at one of those nice AMD64 laptops for a whole afternoon. But while I would have saved on the kit, I wouldn't be able to run an OS that somehow always manages to stay at or near the top of all the features with little to no hassle to set up and use. After the delerium abated, I settled on a stripped down 15" PBG4 1.33GHz tricked out with 3rd party RAM. I swear that the desire to lick my backlit keyboard in the dark still has not abated...
If Apple breaks this intentionally (meaning not for adding significant, enhanced functionality) in their next release, I will stand with you as an anti-Apple nay-saying zealot and deride them all up and down /.
-Potentially recovering Mac zealot (it's so hard with WWDC right around the corner :-( )