Leaving your thoughtless insult out of it, the poster didn't say anything about "kicking ass" or "causing trouble." He only said that we had overwhelming power. Which, whether you agree with our use of it or not, is a totally objective statement, requiring no disclaimer or reservation.
But going after the feds just begs for trouble that not even other whole countries can easily withstand (and I say that without a hint of nationalistic pride, just matter-of-factly).
Now why did you go so out of your way to assure us that you have absolutely no pride in your nation? Guilt?
I think it's pretty good-looking, but that's a matter of taste. There's a theme engine available to make GNUstep applications look any way you like. But nobody uses it because most of the people involved in the project are old NeXT zealots and prefer the NeXT look to anything else. There probably won't ever be an "official" OS X theme for GNUstep though. There are actually Apple patents on some of the ideas they use (like drawers and sheets).
From what I have heard and read though, the internals are very good.
They are. As a development platform, GNUstep/OpenStep/Cocoa is fantastic. I've been using Borland's VCL stuff recently (under duress) and it's a heaping pile of confusing crap in comparison to GNUstep.
The cross-platform development success stories, like GNUMail.app, are inspiring and the latest CVS of GORM (Interface Builder clone) is getting awfully close to how IB works in OS X. But we probably aren't going to see a real imitation of the OS X window server. The project was threatened by Apple attack-lawyers a few years ago and people are (understandably) nervous about ripping off Apple look and feel. There is a patch to offer a (NeXT-ish looking) horizontal menu like Apple has always used.
But that is still the job of the GUIs. A text program is very easy to interface with. All the GUI needs to do is send its output to LilyPond, watch the error/warning messages that LilyPond gives, and grab the pretty, typeset output file when LilyPond is done.
I agree. But the problem right now is that LilyPond gives you a picture of the document, not individual musical objects that can be interacted with: you can't grab objects and drag them around. Some of the Linux notation software gets around this problem by giving you a really ugly representation of the notes, then outputting an.ly file for printing and/or display. That's better than nothing, but it would be nice if we could see output exactly as it will be printed instead. Additionally, programs that do that generally don't offer all the features that LilyPond does. There's just an option to export to.ly format.
What somebody suggested earlier might be fruitful: a special text editor for LilyPond that has a dynamic rendering display. That might be the best we can hope for in this situation.
As I've noted in a couple of other posts here, *integration* is the key (as well as being fully featured, like Finale). When you're using a frontend to LilyPond, it actually feels like you're using 2 different programs. GUIs are designed to be integrated tools, not piecework like a CLI. (And I love the easy communicative style of the command line, but it doesn't fly in a GUI.)
BTW, I'd also like to write a good Linux/OS X notation suite (using GNUstep, MusicKit, and LilyPond). I'm just not that great of a programmer yet (working on it!) Is there any interest?
There needs to be more integration between GUIs and LilyPond. Right now, you *feel* like you're using 2 different programs. That's not the way GUIs are meant to be.
Integration is key here. The big problem with LilyPond frontends has been that the display of your work-in-progress is clumsy because everything has to be rendered by LilyPond. (There's also the fact that they're nowhere near as featureful as Finale, but that can be taken care of with time. Lack of integration is more difficult to resolve.)
Cocoa/GNUstep is pretty nice. Mac and UNIX is working pretty well (see GNUMail.app for a good example), the win32 graphics backend is maturing rapidly, and there's a guy who has put together a small-footprint PDA distribution too. Besides that, "write once, compile anywhere" is much more reasonable than "write once, run anywhere".
After all, England and Scotland were united by a Scottish king
Didn't the Scots (especially the strong Presbyterians) feel betrayed by James though?
It would be an odd response to someone else threatening your culture, to give it up to merge with another threatened culture.
I had no illusions about merging cultures. But Scotland and Ireland seem to be related culturally (similarities in clothing, music, and original languages) and perhaps even genetically (I'm not sure about that one). Also, I am talking about the Republic of Ireland, not Ulster.
On the bond between Scotland, Ireland (Northern, I assume)
Actually, I was more thinking of the Irish Republic. I think the problems in Northern Ireland might cloud the validity of the comparison.:-)
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Heh. I heard that the guy who wrote the script was a "visionary" who had absolutely no clue what he was talking about.
We have very close relations with England and cannot realistically survive without them, and this is reflected by the fact that Scottish people can sit in the cabinet. That doesn't mean that all past is forgotten and that we are all one country.
I'm beginning to think that the Scotland/England scenario is something like the North/South division here in the US. We still think the South was on the right side, and we still think the North has messed things up, and we're a little peeved at the stereotypes of "dumb country hicks" that seems to prevail in the North. But we know that we're Americans now and believe in loyalty to our nation, for better or worse. BTW, having seen a few Monty Python sketches that seem more than a little mocking of Scotland, do the English tend to look down at the Scots?
It might also mean that we can have a bond between different cultures recognising past oppression by the English without taking offense to the current English people. Life is complicated!
Absolutely. I didn't really mean to imply that there was visceral hatred for the average Englishman. I think, again, that the situation might be something like the way historically-motivated Southerners feel about Canadians: we can understand how the cultural and military force of the US could be irritating, even though we believe in vigorous defense of our nation and sovereignty. (An interesting parallel: a great many Southerners were of Scottish descent and many Northerners were English. Canadians seem to have strong Scottish representation too.)
Answering as a native of one of said countries, I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Really, I just meant, "Is there a marked sense of mutual goodwill, particularly because of past offenses by a third-party?" Your comment about Rugby seems to imply that there might.
In what way incidentally do the cultures look so divergent?
I'm not sure that they're all that divergent; but I know that they have at least some differences. Clearly, there are religious differences between the Scots and Irish. From what little I know about Wales (mostly just Child's Christmas in Wales, by Dylan Thomas), they seem to be less related culturally than Scotland and Ireland. I think.:-)
I had always assumed that Welsh was a form of revenge on the English: "Take over our land will you? Well, let's see you pronounce this!"
While I'm at it, a question from a curious American: do the Welsh, Scots, and Irish all have a commond bond because of their oppression at the hands of the English? I had always assumed that they would but the cultures seem pretty divergent from a distance.
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There's a simple answer. :-)
Leaving your thoughtless insult out of it, the poster didn't say anything about "kicking ass" or "causing trouble." He only said that we had overwhelming power. Which, whether you agree with our use of it or not, is a totally objective statement, requiring no disclaimer or reservation.
That really was the best episode they ever did.
Now why did you go so out of your way to assure us that you have absolutely no pride in your nation? Guilt?
I think it's pretty good-looking, but that's a matter of taste. There's a theme engine available to make GNUstep applications look any way you like. But nobody uses it because most of the people involved in the project are old NeXT zealots and prefer the NeXT look to anything else. There probably won't ever be an "official" OS X theme for GNUstep though. There are actually Apple patents on some of the ideas they use (like drawers and sheets).
From what I have heard and read though, the internals are very good.
They are. As a development platform, GNUstep/OpenStep/Cocoa is fantastic. I've been using Borland's VCL stuff recently (under duress) and it's a heaping pile of confusing crap in comparison to GNUstep.
The cross-platform development success stories, like GNUMail.app, are inspiring and the latest CVS of GORM (Interface Builder clone) is getting awfully close to how IB works in OS X. But we probably aren't going to see a real imitation of the OS X window server. The project was threatened by Apple attack-lawyers a few years ago and people are (understandably) nervous about ripping off Apple look and feel. There is a patch to offer a (NeXT-ish looking) horizontal menu like Apple has always used.
I agree. But the problem right now is that LilyPond gives you a picture of the document, not individual musical objects that can be interacted with: you can't grab objects and drag them around. Some of the Linux notation software gets around this problem by giving you a really ugly representation of the notes, then outputting an .ly file for printing and/or display. That's better than nothing, but it would be nice if we could see output exactly as it will be printed instead. Additionally, programs that do that generally don't offer all the features that LilyPond does. There's just an option to export to .ly format.
What somebody suggested earlier might be fruitful: a special text editor for LilyPond that has a dynamic rendering display. That might be the best we can hope for in this situation.
BTW, I'd also like to write a good Linux/OS X notation suite (using GNUstep, MusicKit, and LilyPond). I'm just not that great of a programmer yet (working on it!) Is there any interest?
There needs to be more integration between GUIs and LilyPond. Right now, you *feel* like you're using 2 different programs. That's not the way GUIs are meant to be.
Integration is key here. The big problem with LilyPond frontends has been that the display of your work-in-progress is clumsy because everything has to be rendered by LilyPond. (There's also the fact that they're nowhere near as featureful as Finale, but that can be taken care of with time. Lack of integration is more difficult to resolve.)
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Nah, XEvil is where it's at.
Cocoa/GNUstep is pretty nice. Mac and UNIX is working pretty well (see GNUMail.app for a good example), the win32 graphics backend is maturing rapidly, and there's a guy who has put together a small-footprint PDA distribution too. Besides that, "write once, compile anywhere" is much more reasonable than "write once, run anywhere".
It has been replaced by Objective-C. Mono my ass.
Didn't the Scots (especially the strong Presbyterians) feel betrayed by James though?
It would be an odd response to someone else threatening your culture, to give it up to merge with another threatened culture.
I had no illusions about merging cultures. But Scotland and Ireland seem to be related culturally (similarities in clothing, music, and original languages) and perhaps even genetically (I'm not sure about that one). Also, I am talking about the Republic of Ireland, not Ulster.
Actually, I was more thinking of the Irish Republic. I think the problems in Northern Ireland might cloud the validity of the comparison. :-)
bad Mel Gibson movies
Heh. I heard that the guy who wrote the script was a "visionary" who had absolutely no clue what he was talking about.
We have very close relations with England and cannot realistically survive without them, and this is reflected by the fact that Scottish people can sit in the cabinet. That doesn't mean that all past is forgotten and that we are all one country.
I'm beginning to think that the Scotland/England scenario is something like the North/South division here in the US. We still think the South was on the right side, and we still think the North has messed things up, and we're a little peeved at the stereotypes of "dumb country hicks" that seems to prevail in the North. But we know that we're Americans now and believe in loyalty to our nation, for better or worse. BTW, having seen a few Monty Python sketches that seem more than a little mocking of Scotland, do the English tend to look down at the Scots?
It might also mean that we can have a bond between different cultures recognising past oppression by the English without taking offense to the current English people. Life is complicated!
Absolutely. I didn't really mean to imply that there was visceral hatred for the average Englishman. I think, again, that the situation might be something like the way historically-motivated Southerners feel about Canadians: we can understand how the cultural and military force of the US could be irritating, even though we believe in vigorous defense of our nation and sovereignty. (An interesting parallel: a great many Southerners were of Scottish descent and many Northerners were English. Canadians seem to have strong Scottish representation too.)
Really, I just meant, "Is there a marked sense of mutual goodwill, particularly because of past offenses by a third-party?" Your comment about Rugby seems to imply that there might.
In what way incidentally do the cultures look so divergent?
I'm not sure that they're all that divergent; but I know that they have at least some differences. Clearly, there are religious differences between the Scots and Irish. From what little I know about Wales (mostly just Child's Christmas in Wales, by Dylan Thomas), they seem to be less related culturally than Scotland and Ireland. I think. :-)
Considering that you run a pr0n site, I hardly think that's a problem...
I'm an American, and I know that it's "couldn't." I think you're seeing the results of our wonderful socialist education establishment.
There is no hope for the human race.
While I'm at it, a question from a curious American: do the Welsh, Scots, and Irish all have a commond bond because of their oppression at the hands of the English? I had always assumed that they would but the cultures seem pretty divergent from a distance.
No, that's middle school.
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You realize what you've done, don't you? Now we're going to hear a never-ending stream of "I for one welcome our evolved-rat overlords" posts.
Show of hands: how many people think this should be pronounced ESS'-COCKS?