I don't agree about 2001, I think it was a movie with a useful message, unlike Mission to Mars, which I have to agree with you, was total crap. Not only is the story awful, but there constantly is publicity in almost every scene. For the scenes that didn't have any publicity, they compensated on the next scene.
As for the story, they take the risk to elaborate on a different theory about our origin (as Humans), ok, that was a/little/ interesting. (i.e. when they solve the DNA problem)
[warning, spoiler]
Of course, the movie finishes on a complete cliché, with a typical happy ending.
Sorry if I wasn't very objective, I just got home and I'm not yet over it:)
On a positive note, I'm in the mood to go and see 2001 : Space Odysee, a movie that definitly had an interesting impact on me.
Alpha Test Version: Too buggy to be released to the paying public.
Beta Test Version: Still too buggy to be released.
Release Version: Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version".
I understand Mozilla is soon-to-be-beta, and this might scare away people from it's encryption, but could a possible crypto-related Open Source security hole be worse than a closed source 'to-be-enhanced-feature'?
And talking about 'to-be-enhanced-features', have you seen the <IMG SRC="file:///c:\CON\NUL"> bug with IE/Win98? It makes the whole machine crash and burn. You can possibly also send this in html-email to outlook-users. Apparently (you might want to confirm this information), this was posted on BugTraq a year ago, but has recently been reposted because it was never fixed.
How about too much sleep? From personal experience, if I sleep more than 7 hours, I'll feel lazy the day after. I find a good night of sleep is around 6 hours, if that's what I get, I'll be in great shape for coding.
Although I get an average of 5 hours.. but hey, combine that with coffee and you've got maximisation of time and efficiency:)
Excel support, although very evil, is a key feature which I think Gnumeric should have. I personally hate VBA, as it is a very evil and unefficient script language, but it would be very good for "transitionnal" users.
Does the WordPerfect 2000 Linux edition have VBA support? (If I'm not mistaken, the Windows version does).
Is there currently an application that uses Perl to replace VBA? I'm thinking of some kind of gnome-mod-perl. (If you treat me of heretic, I'll understand;)
I'm really looking forward to 'Evolution', described as : "an integrated client for mail, news, calendaring, tasks and contact management.". I really like gnome-cal (Calendar), but I haven't found a very stable e-mail/news reader. Balsa is very cool, although I've often been having segfaults with the Debian-potato package.
In other words, new user-friendly applications that are quick and efficient to use, with a cool interface. Rock-on!;)
Does saying 'Open Source' (with capital letters) always mean a license compatible to the Open Source Definition? Wouldn't it be more accurate to talk about OSI Certified licenses? (the article talks about 'Open Source', but I was just wondering..)
I read on the opensource.org website's FAQ the following:
While there is agreement on the broad term `open source' as meaning approximately what is captured in the Open Source Definition the term has, ironically, now become so popular that it has lost some of its precision. We strongly encourage everyone who cares about open software to use the term only to describe licenses that conform to the OSD, or software distributed under such licenses; but since the term has passed into more general use, we also encourage people to refer to the ``OSI Certified'' mark, which has precision and legal force in identifying software distributed under licenses that are known to meet the OSD requirements.
Be a good boy and put that issue down like the man said.
Although I really do hate your negative way of giving feedback, after reading more interesting comments, I retrieve my comment for it was misinformed and outdated.
On the other hand, your comment almost pissed me off, no wonder you post as AC..
i love it how people who wouldn't know a packet sniffer it it smacked them in the head are always proposing how you can do anything by just using a packet sniffer.
Who said _just_ using a packet sniffer? You're over-simplifying the issue. The way I understood the original message was 'packet sniffing' as a _method_, and not as a simple act. Anyways, most things in life are very complicated, we just like to explain them in simple terms.
Well, one could always packet sniff to get sensible information, but it must be really long to get a reasonnable quantity of information. But that doesn't mean people aren't doing it, and from my point of view, one could write log parsers to extract CC# from packet sniffing logs very easily.
What really scares me about this news, is that I don't understand why would a company how my CC# in a database? Do you give your CC# to your drugstore just because you shop there once a month?
Aren't there some sort of PGP systems to use CC# information, with the help of CC companies like VISA and MasterCard? If people are ready to invest $billions in online commerce, why can't CC companies (who are right anyways) develop useful open standards to protect consumers? (buzzwords rock;)
I never found official documentation about this, but someone told me that InterBase was very quick to journal itself, and avoid all loss of data.
This was because it was developped as a solution for the army, and they needed a product that booted very quickly because when a tank fired, it caused an electro-static burst that rebooted all the tank's computers.
Can anyone confirm this? If this is true, this could lead to a new kind of embedded Linux systems or other types of systems that must boot quicly.
Although I find it weird to write an OS in ASM, it must be cool stuff to read. And hey, if they can make a cool hack out of it, why not? I mean, our differences are what makes us evolve.
I had a few rendering glitches, and post forms don't seem to work (voting, login, etc..). But overall, it's a fast browser and I'm sure it'll run well on older computers.
As for quicker computers, Mozilla M12 is starting to be a pretty good candidate. (and it's Open Source)
Well, wxWindows is a pretty cool library, and it's GNU (well, the author made some slight optional modifications to the licence to make it sort of a mix of LGPL/BSD).
Coding in C++ is much cleaner and wxWindows generates code for GTK+, QT, Motif, Windows, Mac, and ports are in progress (I think) for BeOS. Sure, it doesn't support Gnome (as a desktop), but it's a great step in the good direction, maybe Gnome support will come later if it's possible.
Another cool thing about wxWindows is that the syntax is very familiar to MFC, so Windows applications could be very easily ported to the world. I know this isn't happening right now, and I don't understand why wxWindows doesn't have that much visibility. (fear of C++? Unstable? Please correct me.)
Kind of cool how some people can get really emotional instead of just posting a normal message based on facts.
And don't bother saying that what I said was exagerated. I simply posted a short, non-emotional, message on the fact that Kevin was sent to jail, without probation, for 5 years because of stupid non-violent computer crimes. (I thought a speedy trial was 6 months, and a delayed trial was at most 2 years)
Also, may I point out that one of the objectives of forums is to encourage discussion, not necessarily to evoque wisdom like yours. My comment was to give my point of view (the "comment" word is quite magical by it's definition), and what I think about obscure corners of the US justice system. But hey, I didn't even go near from what Amnistie International (human rights protection) say about the US in general in their TV commercials.
So, if I understand correctly, he was sent to prison for a couple of years while waiting to be sentenced, and when he passed enough time waiting in prison for the crimes he commited, they dropped the charges?
So, he served a prison sentence without being judged by trial?
Anyways, I guess this is a good thing for him, I just don't really understand the U.S.'s notion of "justice"..
It's also pretty funny for Office 2000. I work in a computer store, and when someone walks in asking for the price of the product, it's hell.. Also, I'm in Montreal, so there are french and english versions:
- Standart - Professionnal - Premium - Developpers
+ Now, double that for the academic versions. + Also add 4 more for the upgrade versions. (but you can't upgrade an academic version). * 2 because there are french translations of all the products, they are all in the same box as most linux apps do.
= Total: 24 different boxes of Ms Office 2000.
But wait! You can also buy all the products individually (frontpage, word, excel, whatever..) Imagine how fun it is, and how clients are usually pissed when they need to buy these products.:)
Now that's what I call Marketting:
This forces most stores to buy a big load of Ms Products, since to get a better "cost" price they have to buy alot. But they also have to buy all the different versions. Therefore, they have to store these boxes somewhere, and that's why in all stores you see a wall full of boxes, since it's either they have alot of this crap, or they won't have any.
Therefore, stores are forced to make free publicity for Microsoft products and they make it sound very important because they have a big pile of boxes. But they don't have a choice but to have a big pile of boxes since there are so many different products to display!
(that was hard to explain, don't be too supprised if I typed it all wrong:)
You have a good point, although to most people I talk to (they usually are confused as hell when chosing distros), I quickly describe them the Linux GNU GPL licence, and refer to most my local LUG (Linux-Quebec)
They also pretty much all know it's free, and prefer buying the RedHat box at 115$ CDN rather than the InfoMagick kit at 40$ or so, because they want the phone support and want to install it on their company's server.
I agree we must not be blindly happy about Linux's growth, and avoid the same failure as OS/2. Although people are already spreading lots of FUD about Windows 2000 (ironic..), and I believe it's time to be confident about Linux. I trust the development model we have right now, rather than the one OS/2 had.
I work in a computer store, who's been recently making lots of publicity for Linux in the store, and the Civ::CTP version of Linux has been selling more copies than the windows version. Our main problem was that people didn't know stores actually carried the Linux version. Oh, and we also sell way more Linux CDs Vs (Windows98 || Office) combined. *grin*
Well, I know this might have annoyed a few of you:
"Of course, the Unix version that has gained so much attention lately is Linux."
Linux isn't a version of Unix, it's a Unix flavor. It was written from scratch, and not based on the BSD kernel.
Anyways, it's still a pretty interesting article. We recently received Windows2000-Nt-server at work for testing, and I don't really like it.. It takes up 600 megs of HD space, and on a P2 333/64megs, it's very slow. (although I'll let the benefit of the doubt that it might be badly configured)
I'm also curious about the price, but hey, corporate people just love paying too much money, they feel more secure.
Isn't this just FUD? So what if people have to adapt their software, everyone must constantly adapt. Why do people constantly want to slow down evolution just because they are too lazy to catch up? Just think of it as a very big (but for once useful) bug fix ^H^H.. service pack.. ^H^H^H "new features for a better Internet experience"!;)
On the other hand, this is a Good Thing for Linux, as people finally realize how expensive it is to change monopolistic proprietary software.
I agree, I've been using Linux for a year and a half only, and sometimes forget how Linux started. What made Linux so strong is the liberty of expression of it's community, but also it's good sense.
Sometimes I get the feeling that flamers think they have such a small role in the developpement of Linux that they rather flamer to get heard, since it's an easy way of getting noticed.
It's kind of like comparing Windows and Linux by saying "windows sucks".. it's an easy flame, but not a smart one. Linux rocks way more than windows can suck!
To get back to ESR, he knew how to prove that Open Source was benefic, and at the same time he was unintentionnally (at first) reprensenting a very large community. I mean, if he said stupid things, where would we be today?
Maybe we should create more documentation on how to adopt a flamer's perspective to the Linux-advocacy? (I know a HowTo exists, but not many flamers read it). I've started writing a little, but I write in french, and I'm not really good at it.
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I don't agree about 2001, I think it was a movie with a useful message, unlike Mission to Mars, which I have to agree with you, was total crap. Not only is the story awful, but there constantly is publicity in almost every scene. For the scenes that didn't have any publicity, they compensated on the next scene.
/little/ interesting. (i.e. when they solve the DNA problem)
:)
As for the story, they take the risk to elaborate on a different theory about our origin (as Humans), ok, that was a
[warning, spoiler]
Of course, the movie finishes on a complete cliché, with a typical happy ending.
Sorry if I wasn't very objective, I just got home and I'm not yet over it
On a positive note, I'm in the mood to go and see 2001 : Space Odysee, a movie that definitly had an interesting impact on me.
http://www. matrox.com/mga/press_room/lat_press_rel/matroxg400 _linux.htm
Dualhead is announced for soon, although their site isn't very informative.From: http://www.fsf.org/fun/jokes/softw are.terms.html:
Alpha Test Version: Too buggy to be released to the paying public.
Beta Test Version: Still too buggy to be released.
Release Version: Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version".
I understand Mozilla is soon-to-be-beta, and this might scare away people from it's encryption, but could a possible crypto-related Open Source security hole be worse than a closed source 'to-be-enhanced-feature'?
And talking about 'to-be-enhanced-features', have you seen the <IMG SRC="file:///c:\CON\NUL"> bug with IE/Win98? It makes the whole machine crash and burn. You can possibly also send this in html-email to outlook-users. Apparently (you might want to confirm this information), this was posted on BugTraq a year ago, but has recently been reposted because it was never fixed.
Shit happens.
How about too much sleep? From personal experience, if I sleep more than 7 hours, I'll feel lazy the day after. I find a good night of sleep is around 6 hours, if that's what I get, I'll be in great shape for coding.
:)
Although I get an average of 5 hours.. but hey, combine that with coffee and you've got maximisation of time and efficiency
Excel support, although very evil, is a key feature which I think Gnumeric should have. I personally hate VBA, as it is a very evil and unefficient script language, but it would be very good for "transitionnal" users.
;)
Does the WordPerfect 2000 Linux edition have VBA support? (If I'm not mistaken, the Windows version does).
Is there currently an application that uses Perl to replace VBA? I'm thinking of some kind of gnome-mod-perl. (If you treat me of heretic, I'll understand
I'm really looking forward to 'Evolution', described as : "an integrated client for mail, news, calendaring, tasks and contact management.". I really like gnome-cal (Calendar), but I haven't found a very stable e-mail/news reader. Balsa is very cool, although I've often been having segfaults with the Debian-potato package.
In other words, new user-friendly applications that are quick and efficient to use, with a cool interface. Rock-on! ;)
Quick, we need screenshots!
Does saying 'Open Source' (with capital letters) always mean a license compatible to the Open Source Definition? Wouldn't it be more accurate to talk about OSI Certified licenses? (the article talks about 'Open Source', but I was just wondering..)
I read on the opensource.org website's FAQ the following:
While there is agreement on the broad term `open source' as meaning approximately what is captured in the Open Source Definition the term has, ironically, now become so popular that it has lost some of its precision. We strongly encourage everyone who cares about open software to use the term only to describe licenses that conform to the OSD, or software distributed under such licenses; but since the term has passed into more general use, we also encourage people to refer to the ``OSI Certified'' mark, which has precision and legal force in identifying software distributed under licenses that are known to meet the OSD requirements.
Although I really do hate your negative way of giving feedback, after reading more interesting comments, I retrieve my comment for it was misinformed and outdated.
On the other hand, your comment almost pissed me off, no wonder you post as AC..
Who said _just_ using a packet sniffer? You're over-simplifying the issue. The way I understood the original message was 'packet sniffing' as a _method_, and not as a simple act. Anyways, most things in life are very complicated, we just like to explain them in simple terms.
Well, one could always packet sniff to get sensible information, but it must be really long to get a reasonnable quantity of information. But that doesn't mean people aren't doing it, and from my point of view, one could write log parsers to extract CC# from packet sniffing logs very easily.
;)
What really scares me about this news, is that I don't understand why would a company how my CC# in a database? Do you give your CC# to your drugstore just because you shop there once a month?
Aren't there some sort of PGP systems to use CC# information, with the help of CC companies like VISA and MasterCard? If people are ready to invest $billions in online commerce, why can't CC companies (who are right anyways) develop useful open standards to protect consumers? (buzzwords rock
Very cool, thanks :)
I never found official documentation about this, but someone told me that InterBase was very quick to journal itself, and avoid all loss of data.
This was because it was developped as a solution for the army, and they needed a product that booted very quickly because when a tank fired, it caused an electro-static burst that rebooted all the tank's computers.
Can anyone confirm this? If this is true, this could lead to a new kind of embedded Linux systems or other types of systems that must boot quicly.
I agree, I just bought the same chair for home, since I was developping back problems. The back support is great.
Although I find it weird to write an OS in ASM, it must be cool stuff to read. And hey, if they can make a cool hack out of it, why not? I mean, our differences are what makes us evolve.
I had a few rendering glitches, and post forms don't seem to work (voting, login, etc..). But overall, it's a fast browser and I'm sure it'll run well on older computers.
As for quicker computers, Mozilla M12 is starting to be a pretty good candidate. (and it's Open Source)
Well, wxWindows is a pretty cool library, and it's GNU (well, the author made some slight optional modifications to the licence to make it sort of a mix of LGPL/BSD).
Coding in C++ is much cleaner and wxWindows generates code for GTK+, QT, Motif, Windows, Mac, and ports are in progress (I think) for BeOS. Sure, it doesn't support Gnome (as a desktop), but it's a great step in the good direction, maybe Gnome support will come later if it's possible.
Another cool thing about wxWindows is that the syntax is very familiar to MFC, so Windows applications could be very easily ported to the world. I know this isn't happening right now, and I don't understand why wxWindows doesn't have that much visibility. (fear of C++? Unstable? Please correct me.)
Matt
Sunsite is going around 50k/s.
ftp:// sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/red hat-6.1/6.1-i386.iso
Kind of cool how some people can get really emotional instead of just posting a normal message based on facts.
And don't bother saying that what I said was exagerated. I simply posted a short, non-emotional, message on the fact that Kevin was sent to jail, without probation, for 5 years because of stupid non-violent computer crimes. (I thought a speedy trial was 6 months, and a delayed trial was at most 2 years)
Also, may I point out that one of the objectives of forums is to encourage discussion, not necessarily to evoque wisdom like yours. My comment was to give my point of view (the "comment" word is quite magical by it's definition), and what I think about obscure corners of the US justice system. But hey, I didn't even go near from what Amnistie International (human rights protection) say about the US in general in their TV commercials.
I'm just curious, are you from Texas?
So, if I understand correctly, he was sent to prison for a couple of years while waiting to be sentenced, and when he passed enough time waiting in prison for the crimes he commited, they dropped the charges?
So, he served a prison sentence without being judged by trial?
Anyways, I guess this is a good thing for him, I just don't really understand the U.S.'s notion of "justice"..
It's also pretty funny for Office 2000. I work in a computer store, and when someone walks in asking for the price of the product, it's hell.. Also, I'm in Montreal, so there are french and english versions:
:)
:)
- Standart
- Professionnal
- Premium
- Developpers
+ Now, double that for the academic versions.
+ Also add 4 more for the upgrade versions. (but you can't upgrade an academic version).
* 2 because there are french translations of all the products, they are all in the same box as most linux apps do.
= Total: 24 different boxes of Ms Office 2000.
But wait! You can also buy all the products individually (frontpage, word, excel, whatever..)
Imagine how fun it is, and how clients are usually pissed when they need to buy these products.
Now that's what I call Marketting:
This forces most stores to buy a big load of Ms Products, since to get a better "cost" price they have to buy alot. But they also have to buy all the different versions. Therefore, they have to store these boxes somewhere, and that's why in all stores you see a wall full of boxes, since it's either they have alot of this crap, or they won't have any.
Therefore, stores are forced to make free publicity for Microsoft products and they make it sound very important because they have a big pile of boxes. But they don't have a choice but to have a big pile of boxes since there are so many different products to display!
(that was hard to explain, don't be too supprised if I typed it all wrong
You have a good point, although to most people I talk to (they usually are confused as hell when chosing distros), I quickly describe them the Linux GNU GPL licence, and refer to most my local LUG (Linux-Quebec)
They also pretty much all know it's free, and prefer buying the RedHat box at 115$ CDN rather than the InfoMagick kit at 40$ or so, because they want the phone support and want to install it on their company's server.
I agree we must not be blindly happy about Linux's growth, and avoid the same failure as OS/2. Although people are already spreading lots of FUD about Windows 2000 (ironic..), and I believe it's time to be confident about Linux. I trust the development model we have right now, rather than the one OS/2 had.
I work in a computer store, who's been recently making lots of publicity for Linux in the store, and the Civ::CTP version of Linux has been selling more copies than the windows version. Our main problem was that people didn't know stores actually carried the Linux version. Oh, and we also sell way more Linux CDs Vs (Windows98 || Office) combined. *grin*
Well, I know this might have annoyed a few of you:
"Of course, the Unix version that has gained so much attention lately is Linux."
Linux isn't a version of Unix, it's a Unix flavor. It was written from scratch, and not based on the BSD kernel.
Anyways, it's still a pretty interesting article. We recently received Windows2000-Nt-server at work for testing, and I don't really like it.. It takes up 600 megs of HD space, and on a P2 333/64megs, it's very slow. (although I'll let the benefit of the doubt that it might be badly configured)
I'm also curious about the price, but hey, corporate people just love paying too much money, they feel more secure.
Isn't this just FUD? So what if people have to adapt their software, everyone must constantly adapt. Why do people constantly want to slow down evolution just because they are too lazy to catch up? Just think of it as a very big (but for once useful) bug fix ^H^H .. service pack.. ^H^H^H "new features for a better Internet experience"! ;)
On the other hand, this is a Good Thing for Linux, as people finally realize how expensive it is to change monopolistic proprietary software.
I agree, I've been using Linux for a year and a half only, and sometimes forget how Linux started. What made Linux so strong is the liberty of expression of it's community, but also it's good sense.
Sometimes I get the feeling that flamers think they have such a small role in the developpement of Linux that they rather flamer to get heard, since it's an easy way of getting noticed.
It's kind of like comparing Windows and Linux by saying "windows sucks".. it's an easy flame, but not a smart one. Linux rocks way more than windows can suck!
To get back to ESR, he knew how to prove that Open Source was benefic, and at the same time he was unintentionnally (at first) reprensenting a very large community. I mean, if he said stupid things, where would we be today?
Maybe we should create more documentation on how to adopt a flamer's perspective to the Linux-advocacy? (I know a HowTo exists, but not many flamers read it). I've started writing a little, but I write in french, and I'm not really good at it.