Ummm you work for apple right? That thing should be called the iRover I have to agree with other posts dump the office chairs and mount them on something. Go with metal weals (rubber/plastic would be hard pressed under the environment of sub-zero sand and rock) On the other had it has the advantage of being inexpensive to build it a couple big sets of lego technics and they're set:)
I think they are sending 2 of the same probe hence this "as you only need to do the design work once" you make a strong argument for exactly what he's talking about.:)
This would be nice if it was replaced by a liquid crystal touch sensitive pad. Hit a button, it lights up as a touch keyboard, hit it again you've got a tablet. And let users customize buttons here and there:) Makes me drool
Actually they apologised for the way everything happened and the screwballs they had dealing with hypothermia. He did sign a contract to do everything they were wanting him to, he just thought it meant something else. Once he realised it he tried talking to a guy who wouldn't help him much, and turned out to not be a "real" nVidia employee. The contract they had sent was for big companies at shows and such, not small * no offense intended its a great site * sites like hypothermia.
I just installed rh 6.2 and it still uses E:( Switched to sawfish and its VERY nice. Seems prettier than E and much ligher on resources. It may be the default if you compile or dl gnome seperate but I'm not sure
I was thinking prelauch type stuff:) But ya thats the one time these monsters would look cheap is when you check how much it would cost to put one in orbit
Pixar seems to like them, as do lots of cgi companies. One of the biggest strengths for this box/boxs for them is the video processing. You can make a fancy beowulf cluster for cheaper at the same power, but the best video your gonna get is a geforce gts/voodoo5/raedon whatever this mamajamma has 4 gig of video ram available *drool*. Not to mention the pretty boxes it comes in. I'd feel kinda odd as an astronaut walking by 512 beige boxes hooked to the satalite sitting on a metal rack:)
Mmmmm 4 Gigs of video ram, 512 processors all with 8 meg of cache, and quake 3 mulit-proc inabled. Yummmy Wonder if there is a way to hook this to an Imax projector and get some SERIOUS fragin underway?
Is there any limit to how many of these could be used per object, or on our atmosphere at one time? The article mentions powering deep space probes to Jupiter with this, could the ISS drag 4 or 5 of these around at once to provide extra power? Or have them rolled up waiting to be used incase of solar array failure? Oooh a BeoTether cluster to power ISS:) And if this becomes feasible/popular is there any limit to how many can be used at once on the atmosphere?
For OEM sales probably not that much of a difference. Especially considering this is a new card, and a decent one at that so they'll probably be a shortage of them retail for awhile.
I may be reading it wrong, but I thought it was mainly about them not giving demo's to people who advertise for 3dfx. The reviews they don't mind, but one of the letters that was posted said they told a site to remove the ads for 3dfx or they wouldn't get anymore demos. Still not ethical but not as bad:)
You're correct I was just pointing out that apple really didn't hurt ati. As its been said many times over they just didn't show off ati's card at there show. He's was implying ati would loose its oem work for apple. Which I really doubt considering the strength of this card. I can't say for sure but it would seem this card would keep much of its power even without the expensive ddr ram it comes with on the high end. It uses different methods to get the work to/from ram that are much less dependant on the actual ram speed then nVidias are. While 5.5 ns ddr ram does help it ALOT I'd rather have a normal sdram raedon, then a geforce gts with ddr (if they were even made). And that leads to more power for less money in oem situations.
But if notice, they aren't going outside of ati. Just a different ati card. They will still be making a profit, probably more then off the new flashy raedon, that has lots or R&D to be paid off with high retail sales. Granted the oem would bring in lots of money, but the higher profit margin of an older chip, thats just sitting aroudn anyways can pay for it to, perhaps even better.
Wouldn't this be more of a punishment for mac users?
I mean really, leaving more of the video cards in ATI's hands, and since it is a fairly good card they will probably sell them anyways so it won't hurt them to much in the long run. And then the poor user who gets crappy video card instead of one that competes with the Geforce GTS, and the voodoo 5500. I don't see ati being the looser here.
It sounds more like Apple realised they would have to charge more than they thought for the cube, then decided to "punish" ati by using a less expensive card so their profit margin is higher then with the Raedon, or the box would be affordablely *cough cough* priced.
It looks like a good way to waste money actually. It doesn't give you any of the speed, or reliability of sczi drives it just lets you connect an ide drive to a sczi card. The drive can't transfer data any faster no matter what interface the pc see's it on. And with most motherboards having built in ide slots its a waste of money.
Depends on the age they are rescued. If they are 17 or so I'll agree it s a bit late to really hope for a drastic change but its possible. However if you can get them out of the home young enough those children will be come great parents usually. They learn how horrible abuse is, and once with a good family they learn how great love and affection can be, and that they can still learn not to do things in that kind of home.
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Ummm you work for apple right? That thing should be called the iRover :)
I have to agree with other posts dump the office chairs and mount them on something. Go with metal weals (rubber/plastic would be hard pressed under the environment of sub-zero sand and rock)
On the other had it has the advantage of being inexpensive to build it a couple big sets of lego technics and they're set
or to go with the overpriced style of the cube use flourinert
Nah lost in the troll world
I think they are sending 2 of the same probe hence this "as you only need to do the design work once" you make a strong argument for exactly what he's talking about. :)
This would be nice if it was replaced by a liquid crystal touch sensitive pad. Hit a button, it lights up as a touch keyboard, hit it again you've got a tablet. And let users customize buttons here and there :) Makes me drool
Actually they apologised for the way everything happened and the screwballs they had dealing with hypothermia. He did sign a contract to do everything they were wanting him to, he just thought it meant something else. Once he realised it he tried talking to a guy who wouldn't help him much, and turned out to not be a "real" nVidia employee. The contract they had sent was for big companies at shows and such, not small * no offense intended its a great site * sites like hypothermia.
I just installed rh 6.2 and it still uses E :(
Switched to sawfish and its VERY nice. Seems prettier than E and much ligher on resources. It may be the default if you compile or dl gnome seperate but I'm not sure
Be careful you may have taken zdnet or cnn's next story. They may sue you for being beating them to thinking of some IP.
Hehehe you'd kinda expect people to read posts before they flame them to eh?
I was thinking prelauch type stuff :)
But ya thats the one time these monsters would look cheap is when you check how much it would cost to put one in orbit
Perhaps he should get the biMac or dMac :) check them out here
err shuttle :) not satellite *pardon the spelling its early with little caffeine*
Pixar seems to like them, as do lots of cgi companies. One of the biggest strengths for this box/boxs for them is the video processing. You can make a fancy beowulf cluster for cheaper at the same power, but the best video your gonna get is a geforce gts/voodoo5/raedon whatever this mamajamma has 4 gig of video ram available *drool*. Not to mention the pretty boxes it comes in. I'd feel kinda odd as an astronaut walking by 512 beige boxes hooked to the satalite sitting on a metal rack :)
Mmmmm 4 Gigs of video ram, 512 processors all with 8 meg of cache, and quake 3 mulit-proc inabled. Yummmy Wonder if there is a way to hook this to an Imax projector and get some SERIOUS fragin underway?
Is there any limit to how many of these could be used per object, or on our atmosphere at one time? The article mentions powering deep space probes to Jupiter with this, could the ISS drag 4 or 5 of these around at once to provide extra power? Or have them rolled up waiting to be used incase of solar array failure? Oooh a BeoTether cluster to power ISS :) And if this becomes feasible/popular is there any limit to how many can be used at once on the atmosphere?
For OEM sales probably not that much of a difference. Especially considering this is a new card, and a decent one at that so they'll probably be a shortage of them retail for awhile.
I may be reading it wrong, but I thought it was mainly about them not giving demo's to people who advertise for 3dfx. The reviews they don't mind, but one of the letters that was posted said they told a site to remove the ads for 3dfx or they wouldn't get anymore demos. Still not ethical but not as bad :)
You're correct I was just pointing out that apple really didn't hurt ati. As its been said many times over they just didn't show off ati's card at there show. He's was implying ati would loose its oem work for apple. Which I really doubt considering the strength of this card. I can't say for sure but it would seem this card would keep much of its power even without the expensive ddr ram it comes with on the high end. It uses different methods to get the work to/from ram that are much less dependant on the actual ram speed then nVidias are. While 5.5 ns ddr ram does help it ALOT I'd rather have a normal sdram raedon, then a geforce gts with ddr (if they were even made). And that leads to more power for less money in oem situations.
But if notice, they aren't going outside of ati. Just a different ati card. They will still be making a profit, probably more then off the new flashy raedon, that has lots or R&D to be paid off with high retail sales. Granted the oem would bring in lots of money, but the higher profit margin of an older chip, thats just sitting aroudn anyways can pay for it to, perhaps even better.
I mean really, leaving more of the video cards in ATI's hands, and since it is a fairly good card they will probably sell them anyways so it won't hurt them to much in the long run. And then the poor user who gets crappy video card instead of one that competes with the Geforce GTS, and the voodoo 5500. I don't see ati being the looser here.
It sounds more like Apple realised they would have to charge more than they thought for the cube, then decided to "punish" ati by using a less expensive card so their profit margin is higher then with the Raedon, or the box would be affordablely *cough cough* priced.
64K acutally.
It looks like a good way to waste money actually. It doesn't give you any of the speed, or reliability of sczi drives it just lets you connect an ide drive to a sczi card. The drive can't transfer data any faster no matter what interface the pc see's it on. And with most motherboards having built in ide slots its a waste of money.
Maybe for once their won't be a hundred people bitching about double posting a story :)
Depends on the age they are rescued. If they are 17 or so I'll agree it s a bit late to really hope for a drastic change but its possible. However if you can get them out of the home young enough those children will be come great parents usually. They learn how horrible abuse is, and once with a good family they learn how great love and affection can be, and that they can still learn not to do things in that kind of home.
Hmmm perhaps, if they are to poor to be fed properly? So I read to quick hehe but the rest of it is right :)