first of all, 2 of those posts were modded for 'troll', secondly, none of those posts say anything about OSS not being good, just that linux/oss may not be 100% stable. The fact is, just about nobody thinks OSS or Linux is 'bad' because of this reason alone, and it seems like you were implying this.
No wonder India likes Linux.... With commands like fsck and chmod, which don't make any sense in english, maybe they make sense in Hindu.
You are quite ignorant. First of all, what does culture have to do with commands?
Secondly, Hindu is not a language, it is a religion. The two official languages in India are Hindi and English. Maybe next time you try to make a funny comment, do more research.
You can't deny the existence of something you attack.
You misunderstood me, what i meant by 'not accepting the existence' was they dont believe it should exist (which is why i quoted that attacking statement), not that they dont know it exists. Sorry if i wasnt clear on that.
I know exactly what you are trying to say, and you are right, but you are missing my point. What I have been trying to say is the GNU takes it a step too far, they shouldn't attack non-copyleft software, eg, when they literally say (shown by my pasted quote) people who make non-copyleft software fail to defend people's freedom. This is just plain wrong. They should talk more about Free (even if copyleft only) vs. Non-free, and less of Copyleft vs. Non-copyleft free.
on another note, I still believe in more liberal, BSD style of redistribution, even if it does mean less free software a couple of years down the line. Everyone should have the right to use the code, even commercial companies (and i think we both agree commercial software wont convert the whole software to GPL just to use code from existing GPL software). I guess thats just what I will always believe in.
The speed of apps is my biggest annoyance. I use icewm so my window manager is not a problem, but the speed of QT/GTK2 apps is considerably lower than windows 98. Im talking about mainly startup speed.
Mozilla has to be the slowest app ever. Not only that, it is the only program that maxes out my cpu often (it has a slow rendering speed and more resource usage compared to any other browser). I know i will get opposition out there, but unless you have a recent computer you will notice it.
I know, linux apps are advancing, while my windows 98 is the same, but why do new programs need to be slower. We need to stop concentrating on quality, and start concentrating on speed. Quality will come naturally with time.
If browser integration, the X window system, or the GUI toolkit need to be integrated with the kernel, then thats fine by me. But until it is much faster im going to use win98 as my primary OS, and linux as secondary.
This is simply untrue. The FSF has a widely-accepted and very useful license list which includes these licenses and suggested ways of speaking about the licenses to avoid confusion about which license you're referring to:
I believe this list of licenses has a main purpose of showing which are compatible with the GPL, and thus which you can incorporate in your GPL program.
This is hardly the behavior one would expect to see if the FSF did not want to "accept the existence" of these other licenses.
i never read that before, i will certainly take a look, but take a look at this FAQ question.
gnu quote: "Of course, your software is not a contribution to our community if it is not free, and people who value their freedom will refuse to use it. Only people willing to give up their freedom will use your software, which means that it will effectively function as an inducement for people to lose their freedom."
nobody prefers using non-free software, but those are some pretty harsh words. I value my freedom, doesnt mean i wouldn't use non-free software. The same goes for many other people out there.
As for other free software, their feeling is not this bad, they are subtle for the most part, but they only say it is ok to develop new software as non-copyleft free software as a preference to non-free
gnu quote: "Someone who uses your code in a non-free program is trying to deny freedom to others, and if you let him do it, you're failing to defend their freedom. When it comes to defending the freedom of others, to lie down and do nothing is an act of weakness, not humility."
First of all, this is untrue, others still have full access to my source code. Secondly, how is this accepting the existence of non-copyleft licenses? This is more like attacking them.
Not to flame, but they are very much like fundamentalists. They want everyone to follow their ways, they do not like the thinking of other non-gnu licenses.
Okay, they want what's best for the open-source community, and have obviously contributed quite a lot. But does anyone think it is unfair that others (X11, BSD license, zlib, etc) accept the existence of GNU, but not the other way around (this is shown by their philosophy documents, and also the nature of the GPL).
Along with what everyone else has said, I will say that it's not that Apple's products are too expensive, it's that Apple doesn't sell cheaper computers. Theres a huge difference there.
Not quite, apple's systems are still more expensive than a similar PC system, for example:
/. is not the place to go for legal advice. A lawyer is. If you listen to/. you're gonna be following the advice of people who are just talking out of their ass and get in trouble.
This person is asking for general info, I doubt he will take it as formal advice. This is free advice, so at least he gets an idea of other peoples' opinions and to hear if anyone has been in the same situation. A lawyers costs... well im not sure but it is a lot more than free.
But yes, like the last 100 of you have already said... he will have to see a lawyer, eventually.
Probably just as easy, almost certainly better quality sound reproduction.:)
well actually the cassette adapter is digital quality, as long as the metal contacts on the cassette are touching properly.
my stereo is connected to my computer and it sounds exactly the same as using a 1/8 jack connection (which broke and thats why i use this cassette adapter)
if you put 'news for nerds, stuff that matters' somewhere on it and wear it in public... wouldn't it feel weird?, i guess it's ok to wear at home though.... but i'd certainly wouldnt think highly of someone if i saw them wearing it and i didnt know about slashdot... (i think nobody likes to be considered a nerd/geek in the real world)
so a suggestion, maybe just having the word 'slashdot' alone is good idea, or change the slogan somehow... just my 2 cents
patentable idea?
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It hit me that maybe this mousefan (and probably breezepad too) is a patentable idea in the USPTO. It's certainly more innovative than some of the other garbage that gets accepted.
I could argue that if you build your own computer, You have too much time on your hands.
My guess is you haven't built your own computer before. Actually it is not a long process. You can take your time and relax, and have a whole system up and running with an OS on within 3 hours.
And we don't do it because we have too much time on our hands, its because we want/need control. Many manufacturers websites don't even give the low-level details on their computers such as motherboard model, or the exact 3d card, they may say such a thing as 32 meg integrated video card, (maybe you can get this info but you may have to search quite a bit to dig it up). Basically its mostly about full unconditional control on the system.
Solution to sweaty hands.
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What i do is put a think cloth over my mouse. Not only does it keep the mouse clean... it keeps your hands cool, the cloth feels much cooler than the plastic on the mouse..
off course the cloth gets sweaty... wash at least once a week...
some of you may think it cant be ergonomic to use a mouse in such a way, but try it out with fairly thin cloth, you will be pleasantly suprised....
Yes, Winzip does has the upper hand since it is far more popular than pkzip. I probably haven't used pkzip since the early-mid 90's era during the DOS days. How many people actually use it right now? PKWare is making a big mistake by going through with this, and they will lose market share on zip clients. If they had a big chunk of the market share it may have meant something, but they don't.
Once the patent is granted, pkware will surely go downhill.
Most pictures show the vehicles on a sunny day. It would be interesting to know how (or if at all) these solar cars perform under somewhat cloudy conditions, which may be a typical environment in many areas.
While Windows is good for my application, something that plays well with FreeBSD and Linux would be a major win as well.
Actually I have tried 2 printers with the gimp-print drivers for linux, both perform better than windows (note i only use b&w).
I had a Desktop 340 (smallest printer i've ever seen, smaller than the size of 2 shoeboxes or so.. and quite old)... the quality was a tad higher in linux, but the quality is so poor already its hard to notice a difference
Epson Stylus Colour 600... now this surprised me.... the quality is poor in windows... even at highest quality at 1440 res... lots of bleeding... in linux it is like a high quality laser printer (even though it takes 10 minutes or longer to print a page), and even with hardware microweaving off (which can damage the heads) it is excellent quality... and the thing is somebody gave me this printer because they were dissapointed with the quality...
my guess is the manufacturers make the drivers use more ink then is really needed so you gotta pay for another cartridge... or they for some reason cant make quality drivers...
Slashdot Mirror
I know this isn't related to the topic at hand, but:
Some of you are saying India should spend its money on helping reduce poverty, others are saying this space program will do this indirectly.
The reality is, US has a land area of just over 9 million sq km. India has a land area of just over 3 million sq km.
Considering the fact that US has more resourceful land, and has a population less than 1/3 of India, isn't the main problem population?
India celebrated when they reached 1 billion. I think the real celebration should be when they go back under 1 billion (if that ever happens).
But yes I do think this space program definitely has a better affect on the national economy than just giving food/money away.
In 10 years from now, we will have super-fast computers, with an unthinkable amount of ram, and our planet will be ruled by damn dirty robots!
Probably was Microsoft, we all know how 'closed-minded' they can be...
;)
sorry, bad joke
first of all, 2 of those posts were modded for 'troll', secondly, none of those posts say anything about OSS not being good, just that linux/oss may not be 100% stable. The fact is, just about nobody thinks OSS or Linux is 'bad' because of this reason alone, and it seems like you were implying this.
Gee, that must mean that Linux is fundamentally insecure and that OSS is just no good.
:)
sarcasm unnecessary, who is saying this?
Everybody is complaining about the lack of
responsibility among the GNU admins, not
of OSS.
If they had taken some precautionary measures
it would have been fine.
Just about everyone here knows this.
Oh, come on, trolls. Give it a rest.
Oh, the irony.
Patents on the simple idea of plug-ins and applets? This seems almost as ridiculous as the amazon patent on one click purchasing.
The summary says it has 287,853 lines of code, but the site says 287,853,430!
That's quite a difference.
where did you get this number from? It literally says on the site: "GnuCash currently has 287,853 physical source lines of code"
No wonder India likes Linux.... With commands like fsck and chmod, which don't make any sense in english, maybe they make sense in Hindu.
You are quite ignorant. First of all, what does culture have to do with commands?
Secondly, Hindu is not a language, it is a religion. The two official languages in India are Hindi and English. Maybe next time you try to make a funny comment, do more research.
haha, this is the funniest one:
Position: door Nazi
You can't deny the existence of something you attack.
You misunderstood me, what i meant by 'not accepting the existence' was they dont believe it should exist (which is why i quoted that attacking statement), not that they dont know it exists. Sorry if i wasnt clear on that.
I know exactly what you are trying to say, and you are right, but you are missing my point. What I have been trying to say is the GNU takes it a step too far, they shouldn't attack non-copyleft software, eg, when they literally say (shown by my pasted quote) people who make non-copyleft software fail to defend people's freedom. This is just plain wrong. They should talk more about Free (even if copyleft only) vs. Non-free, and less of Copyleft vs. Non-copyleft free.
on another note, I still believe in more liberal, BSD style of redistribution, even if it does mean less free software a couple of years down the line. Everyone should have the right to use the code, even commercial companies (and i think we both agree commercial software wont convert the whole software to GPL just to use code from existing GPL software). I guess thats just what I will always believe in.
The speed of apps is my biggest annoyance. I use icewm so my window manager is not a problem, but the speed of QT/GTK2 apps is considerably lower than windows 98. Im talking about mainly startup speed.
Mozilla has to be the slowest app ever. Not only that, it is the only program that maxes out my cpu often (it has a slow rendering speed and more resource usage compared to any other browser). I know i will get opposition out there, but unless you have a recent computer you will notice it.
I know, linux apps are advancing, while my windows 98 is the same, but why do new programs need to be slower. We need to stop concentrating on quality, and start concentrating on speed. Quality will come naturally with time.
If browser integration, the X window system, or the GUI toolkit need to be integrated with the kernel, then thats fine by me. But until it is much faster im going to use win98 as my primary OS, and linux as secondary.
btw, i got celeron 733 and 128 ram.
This is simply untrue. The FSF has a widely-accepted and very useful license list which includes these licenses and suggested ways of speaking about the licenses to avoid confusion about which license you're referring to:
I believe this list of licenses has a main purpose of showing which are compatible with the GPL, and thus which you can incorporate in your GPL program.
This is hardly the behavior one would expect to see if the FSF did not want to "accept the existence" of these other licenses.
i never read that before, i will certainly take a look, but take a look at this FAQ question.
gnu quote: "Of course, your software is not a contribution to our community if it is not free, and people who value their freedom will refuse to use it. Only people willing to give up their freedom will use your software, which means that it will effectively function as an inducement for people to lose their freedom."
nobody prefers using non-free software, but those are some pretty harsh words. I value my freedom, doesnt mean i wouldn't use non-free software. The same goes for many other people out there.
As for other free software, their feeling is not this bad, they are subtle for the most part, but they only say it is ok to develop new software as non-copyleft free software as a preference to non-free
for example, i found this.
gnu quote: "Someone who uses your code in a non-free program is trying to deny freedom to others, and if you let him do it, you're failing to defend their freedom. When it comes to defending the freedom of others, to lie down and do nothing is an act of weakness, not humility."
First of all, this is untrue, others still have full access to my source code. Secondly, how is this accepting the existence of non-copyleft licenses? This is more like attacking them.
Yes it is sad.
Not to flame, but they are very much like fundamentalists. They want everyone to follow their ways, they do not like the thinking of other non-gnu licenses.
Okay, they want what's best for the open-source community, and have obviously contributed quite a lot. But does anyone think it is unfair that others (X11, BSD license, zlib, etc) accept the existence of GNU, but not the other way around (this is shown by their philosophy documents, and also the nature of the GPL).
Along with what everyone else has said, I will say that it's not that Apple's products are too expensive, it's that Apple doesn't sell cheaper computers. Theres a huge difference there.
Not quite, apple's systems are still more expensive than a similar PC system, for example:
Here is an apple system.
and Here is a similar spec PC system.
Note how the PC system is cheaper, has a faster processor (even taking in the fact that mac cpus are faster) and more memory.
This is what people are talking about.
GNU thinks its better than the first, they still dont like it (they are quite picky). Read here.
/. is not the place to go for legal advice. A lawyer is. If you listen to /. you're gonna be following the advice of people who are just talking out of their ass and get in trouble.
... well im not sure but it is a lot more than free.
This person is asking for general info, I doubt he will take it as formal advice. This is free advice, so at least he gets an idea of other peoples' opinions and to hear if anyone has been in the same situation. A lawyers costs
But yes, like the last 100 of you have already said... he will have to see a lawyer, eventually.
Probably just as easy, almost certainly better quality sound reproduction. :)
well actually the cassette adapter is digital quality, as long as the metal contacts on the cassette are touching properly.
my stereo is connected to my computer and it sounds exactly the same as using a 1/8 jack connection (which broke and thats why i use this cassette adapter)
mine even has the compact disc digital audio logo on it.
if you put 'news for nerds, stuff that matters' somewhere on it and wear it in public... wouldn't it feel weird?, i guess it's ok to wear at home though.... but i'd certainly wouldnt think highly of someone if i saw them wearing it and i didnt know about slashdot... (i think nobody likes to be considered a nerd/geek in the real world)
so a suggestion, maybe just having the word 'slashdot' alone is good idea, or change the slogan somehow... just my 2 cents
It hit me that maybe this mousefan (and probably breezepad too) is a patentable idea in the USPTO. It's certainly more innovative than some of the other garbage that gets accepted.
I could argue that if you build your own computer, You have too much time on your hands.
My guess is you haven't built your own computer before. Actually it is not a long process. You can take your time and relax, and have a whole system up and running with an OS on within 3 hours.
And we don't do it because we have too much time on our hands, its because we want/need control. Many manufacturers websites don't even give the low-level details on their computers such as motherboard model, or the exact 3d card, they may say such a thing as 32 meg integrated video card, (maybe you can get this info but you may have to search quite a bit to dig it up). Basically its mostly about full unconditional control on the system.
What i do is put a think cloth over my mouse. Not only does it keep the mouse clean... it keeps your hands cool, the cloth feels much cooler than the plastic on the mouse..
off course the cloth gets sweaty... wash at least once a week...
some of you may think it cant be ergonomic to use a mouse in such a way, but try it out with fairly thin cloth, you will be pleasantly suprised....
I know ext2 isn't a journal fs, but it would still be interesting to see a direct comparison again reiser4.
Yes, Winzip does has the upper hand since it is far more popular than pkzip. I probably haven't used pkzip since the early-mid 90's era during the DOS days. How many people actually use it right now? PKWare is making a big mistake by going through with this, and they will lose market share on zip clients. If they had a big chunk of the market share it may have meant something, but they don't.
Once the patent is granted, pkware will surely go downhill.
Most pictures show the vehicles on a sunny day. It would be interesting to know how (or if at all) these solar cars perform under somewhat cloudy conditions, which may be a typical environment in many areas.
Actually I have tried 2 printers with the gimp-print drivers for linux, both perform better than windows (note i only use b&w).
I had a Desktop 340 (smallest printer i've ever seen, smaller than the size of 2 shoeboxes or so.. and quite old) ... the quality was a tad higher in linux, but the quality is so poor already its hard to notice a difference
Epson Stylus Colour 600 ... now this surprised me.... the quality is poor in windows... even at highest quality at 1440 res... lots of bleeding... in linux it is like a high quality laser printer (even though it takes 10 minutes or longer to print a page), and even with hardware microweaving off (which can damage the heads) it is excellent quality... and the thing is somebody gave me this printer because they were dissapointed with the quality...
my guess is the manufacturers make the drivers use more ink then is really needed so you gotta pay for another cartridge ... or they for some reason cant make quality drivers...