I've used it in the bathroom before taking a shower with it steamed up, seemed to work, but no actual drops I don't think.
I've got one with a cracked screen ATM, I guess I could get it a little wetter with some droplets to see what happens after I replace it.
What kind of issues does it have? Wrong position of the touch, not detecting the touch, random phantom touchs with no actual input?
I guess my question is, could you expand on what the problem(s) is(are)? This so far seems to be my best solution for touch as I've yet to find a cost effective marine touch screen. My previous plan wouldn't be multitouch and would still require a fair amount of hacking on my part to make it survive fishing in the rain.
I agree, they need to make money, but this isn't just making money, this is making money by directly taking away from someone else.
Canonical makes more, Mozilla makes less.
I'm fine with Canonical making money, I like Ubuntu. I'm not okay with them doing so by stealing it from Mozilla.
Of course, if they don't have a viable business model they should fix it or stop, instead of stealing from the people who help make their product useful.
I don't give two shits about who they use actually.
I don't even give a shit that they are using Mozilla's work for their own gain, Mozilla is okay with it as well.
My problem is that they are taking out of Mozilla's pocket and putting it into their own.
Google pays Mozilla to have its search as default, that money funds further Mozilla development.
Canonical on the other hand is taking Mozilla's work, and not just profiting from it, but actually lowering the value of Mozilla to Google, lowering the likelyhood that Google will continue to pay for the default search.
To me, this is just flat out stealing from Mozilla.
If they rebrand it and stop using Firefox as the name, I'll not have a problem, but all they are doing is riding on Mozilla's coat tails to make a profit while directly hurting Mozilla. Not just making a profit off someone elses work but intentionally hurting the ones who make the code base they are using with out giving a single thing back.
Next they'll start sending Mozilla a bill for doing them the favor.
finally...
Your issue is that you, like most people, like freedom as long as it's freedom done your way.
I realize you think you're making an Earth shattering statement, but you didn't. EVERYONE is like this, yourself included. The first indication that someone only wants it done their way, is when they start telling people they are intolerant and that they only want it don their way.
Its like when someone calls someone closed minded because they disagree. The very act of telling someone they are closed minded or making a statement like yours shows that you are, in fact guilty of the exact same thing. You are intolerant of my view point because it does not align with yours, which is exactly what your accusing me of.
Next time you might want to try not being such an obvious hypocrite.
Its pretty hard to stop someone from using a NAT. Comcast can't really tell the difference between a NAT and a single machine without deep packet inspection.
At which point you just sue them for invasion of privacy, not that you'll get anywhere but its a neat idea.
The other side to that is that your IPv6 router can deal with helping IPv4 devices communicate over the IPv6 backbone as long as the backbone does the proper bridging (according to the protocol) back to IPv4, which they'd surely have to if they don't intend to break of the Internet and become their own useless island.
In short, some very smart people already thought of that problem when designing the system.
If the post is from Timothy, you can pretty much assume the only correct part is the name of the person that submitted it, and in my experience, he gets that wrong too.
Look, I'll openly admit that I'm an Apple fanboy. I like my MBP, I like my iPhone.
But do we really fucking need a 'rumor round up' post, followed 4 hours later with a post about the rumored product, BEFORE they even fucking tell you about it?
What are we going to do tomorrow? Have a round up of who got the rumors wrong or right, and a 'why the ipad will fail' discussion for the anti-apple fanboys?
Timothy-
When you're in such a hurry to post a story that you can't wait 15 minutes to get the actual details, then you need to see a doctor. I like to get the latest info quick, but pretty much everyone would rather get it correct 15 minutes later, rather than have to come back later to get the actual facts because you were in such a big hurry to get the Frost Piss.
Aren't you special. If you hate iTunes so much, why do you use it? Why get a device thats tied to something you hate so much?
Finally... you're complaining about the number of services running? You know they just idle and are swapped out any time your not syncing, right? Its not like they sit there eating away ram and processing power. I'm sure you have plenty of other retarded services that do the same thing on your Windows machines. Do you bitch about the Windows Error Reporting service too?
Yes, I tether my iPhone all the time when I end up somewhere with no wifi and time to kill.
Also, I won't be buying this device, since its just a bigger iPhone or iPod Touch. You don't need to tether if you get the one with data built in.
I actually may purchase one to put in my boat however, to replace the dash cluster. Currently I've got a prototype implementation using a old macbook for display, but without the touch screen its purely a static display, with a iPad I could actually make it a dynamic display.
I'll have to wait and see how well it can be waterproofed, but I was going to buy a 10 inch touch screen to get the dynamic dash anyway, this would probably work out better since the OS is more touch centric rather than keyboard/mouse centric. Not that its a big deal, but the GUI widgets being designed for touch makes things a lot easier, especially with multitouch.
I wonder how good the multitouch would work when it gets water droplets on it.
Those who say 'I'm not buying it because it doesn't do flash' in general were never going to buy it, its just a troll.
The iPhone doesn't support flash, yet it flies off the shelves.
The iPhone doesn't allow you to install any random apps you want, and requires them to be purchased from apple with their blessing, yet it flies off the shelves.
People who do buy the device don't really bitch about not having it. Everytime you see someone bitching they follow up with 'I'm not buying it!'
Reality check: They never were, its just an excuse to troll.
Except the first part is actually correct. Millions of people with iPhones dont' really notice they cant' use flash.
There are a few places where you go that use flash for some critical part of their site and those don't work, but the popularity of the iPhone has made it so most of the sites you would want to visit on a credit card sized screen have made it so you don't need flash.
The people who complain about it not having flash are also the same people that brag about blocking flash in their browser as well in many cases.
Its just an example of people whining about stuff they have no intention of every using.
It is a feature in my opinion, and nothing of value is lost.
Time for morons to get of the flash bandwagon. No one really bitches about not having it on the phone, except the people who scream 'I'm not buying because it doesn't do flash!!'
Most people who give the ribbon bar enough of a chance don't mind it or even like it after a short period of time.
I don't use Office enough to get used to it, but I don't really see anything inherently wrong about it for the average user other than wasting a lot of screen real estate.
Like most things, once you get used to it, it works fine for every day things.
I'm at a point now where I watch TV only during tornadic weather, and only to watch the news coverage to track the storms
www.weather.com (or probably wunderground.com too, though I don't know for sure) will happily send you emails to alert you of weather issues. There are also plugins for Windows Media Center to look for weather alerts, I can't imagine someone hasn't made one for MythTV.
Personally, living in a city, I've found just listening for the sirens to be the most effective and easiest way to list for a weather issue, as long as your city isn't too new, you could probably do the same. I say too new as it seems that cities that weren't around during our major wars or near nuclear plants seem to be less likely to have adequate alert systems.
Hulu advertising works just like every other form of web advertising. You pay per impression. You know how many viewers your commercials got directly on your bill as an advertiser.
You agree to pay $X per impression, they send you a bill that says 'you got Y number of impressions at $X per impression for a total of $XY'
OR
You agree to pay $X per impression, up to a total ammount of $Y. You will get Y/X impressions for your money.
X is variable and depends on which show(s) you want your ad to be associated with.
You can do whatever you want with the hardware, you own it.
Likewise, the carrier can do whatever it wants with ITS hardware, including not letting you access their network without following their rules, regardless of how arbitrary or ridiculous those rules are.
The people who aren't going to be capable of doing this are the exact same group of people that DON'T GIVE A SHIT that they don't have root or that they update their firmware.
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I've used it in the bathroom before taking a shower with it steamed up, seemed to work, but no actual drops I don't think.
I've got one with a cracked screen ATM, I guess I could get it a little wetter with some droplets to see what happens after I replace it.
What kind of issues does it have? Wrong position of the touch, not detecting the touch, random phantom touchs with no actual input?
I guess my question is, could you expand on what the problem(s) is(are)? This so far seems to be my best solution for touch as I've yet to find a cost effective marine touch screen. My previous plan wouldn't be multitouch and would still require a fair amount of hacking on my part to make it survive fishing in the rain.
I agree, they need to make money, but this isn't just making money, this is making money by directly taking away from someone else.
Canonical makes more, Mozilla makes less.
I'm fine with Canonical making money, I like Ubuntu. I'm not okay with them doing so by stealing it from Mozilla.
Of course, if they don't have a viable business model they should fix it or stop, instead of stealing from the people who help make their product useful.
Before working with the mozilla code, Chrome was a metal to me, like almost everyone else. Its bling bling.
Before Mozilla I'd refer to the 'chrome' as the 'skin' or 'theme'.
But lets go with the Mozilla usage of the word.
What is Chrome the web browser? Its a skin around WebKit ... It is a chrome for webkit ... Seems rather fitting.
I don't give two shits about who they use actually.
I don't even give a shit that they are using Mozilla's work for their own gain, Mozilla is okay with it as well.
My problem is that they are taking out of Mozilla's pocket and putting it into their own.
Google pays Mozilla to have its search as default, that money funds further Mozilla development.
Canonical on the other hand is taking Mozilla's work, and not just profiting from it, but actually lowering the value of Mozilla to Google, lowering the likelyhood that Google will continue to pay for the default search.
To me, this is just flat out stealing from Mozilla.
If they rebrand it and stop using Firefox as the name, I'll not have a problem, but all they are doing is riding on Mozilla's coat tails to make a profit while directly hurting Mozilla. Not just making a profit off someone elses work but intentionally hurting the ones who make the code base they are using with out giving a single thing back.
Next they'll start sending Mozilla a bill for doing them the favor.
finally ...
I realize you think you're making an Earth shattering statement, but you didn't. EVERYONE is like this, yourself included. The first indication that someone only wants it done their way, is when they start telling people they are intolerant and that they only want it don their way.
Its like when someone calls someone closed minded because they disagree. The very act of telling someone they are closed minded or making a statement like yours shows that you are, in fact guilty of the exact same thing. You are intolerant of my view point because it does not align with yours, which is exactly what your accusing me of.
Next time you might want to try not being such an obvious hypocrite.
Its pretty hard to stop someone from using a NAT. Comcast can't really tell the difference between a NAT and a single machine without deep packet inspection.
At which point you just sue them for invasion of privacy, not that you'll get anywhere but its a neat idea.
The other side to that is that your IPv6 router can deal with helping IPv4 devices communicate over the IPv6 backbone as long as the backbone does the proper bridging (according to the protocol) back to IPv4, which they'd surely have to if they don't intend to break of the Internet and become their own useless island.
In short, some very smart people already thought of that problem when designing the system.
You must be new here.
If the post is from Timothy, you can pretty much assume the only correct part is the name of the person that submitted it, and in my experience, he gets that wrong too.
I have no ipv6 at this location and it loads just fine here, not exactly 'ipv6 only' like the Dancing Kame ...
Look, I'll openly admit that I'm an Apple fanboy. I like my MBP, I like my iPhone.
But do we really fucking need a 'rumor round up' post, followed 4 hours later with a post about the rumored product, BEFORE they even fucking tell you about it?
What are we going to do tomorrow? Have a round up of who got the rumors wrong or right, and a 'why the ipad will fail' discussion for the anti-apple fanboys?
Timothy-
When you're in such a hurry to post a story that you can't wait 15 minutes to get the actual details, then you need to see a doctor. I like to get the latest info quick, but pretty much everyone would rather get it correct 15 minutes later, rather than have to come back later to get the actual facts because you were in such a big hurry to get the Frost Piss.
News for Nerd.
Not: Speculation for the idiots with no patients.
Aren't you special. If you hate iTunes so much, why do you use it? Why get a device thats tied to something you hate so much?
Finally ... you're complaining about the number of services running? You know they just idle and are swapped out any time your not syncing, right? Its not like they sit there eating away ram and processing power. I'm sure you have plenty of other retarded services that do the same thing on your Windows machines. Do you bitch about the Windows Error Reporting service too?
Yes, I tether my iPhone all the time when I end up somewhere with no wifi and time to kill.
Also, I won't be buying this device, since its just a bigger iPhone or iPod Touch. You don't need to tether if you get the one with data built in.
I actually may purchase one to put in my boat however, to replace the dash cluster. Currently I've got a prototype implementation using a old macbook for display, but without the touch screen its purely a static display, with a iPad I could actually make it a dynamic display.
I'll have to wait and see how well it can be waterproofed, but I was going to buy a 10 inch touch screen to get the dynamic dash anyway, this would probably work out better since the OS is more touch centric rather than keyboard/mouse centric. Not that its a big deal, but the GUI widgets being designed for touch makes things a lot easier, especially with multitouch.
I wonder how good the multitouch would work when it gets water droplets on it.
Those who say 'I'm not buying it because it doesn't do flash' in general were never going to buy it, its just a troll.
The iPhone doesn't support flash, yet it flies off the shelves.
The iPhone doesn't allow you to install any random apps you want, and requires them to be purchased from apple with their blessing, yet it flies off the shelves.
People who do buy the device don't really bitch about not having it. Everytime you see someone bitching they follow up with 'I'm not buying it!'
Reality check: They never were, its just an excuse to troll.
Except the first part is actually correct. Millions of people with iPhones dont' really notice they cant' use flash.
There are a few places where you go that use flash for some critical part of their site and those don't work, but the popularity of the iPhone has made it so most of the sites you would want to visit on a credit card sized screen have made it so you don't need flash.
The people who complain about it not having flash are also the same people that brag about blocking flash in their browser as well in many cases.
Its just an example of people whining about stuff they have no intention of every using.
Too bad anyone who wants to rip this can just use a virtual machine ... Its amazing what you can do with a few hacks to VirtualBox's video subsystem. :)
Flash, Silverlight, windows media player, who gives a crap, it all turns out the same way on my media center PC.
It is a feature in my opinion, and nothing of value is lost.
Time for morons to get of the flash bandwagon. No one really bitches about not having it on the phone, except the people who scream 'I'm not buying because it doesn't do flash!!'
Yea, and Hollywood movie studios take a loss on every movie they make ...
Accounting, much like statistics in general, can be warped to show just about anything you want it to.
Most people who give the ribbon bar enough of a chance don't mind it or even like it after a short period of time.
I don't use Office enough to get used to it, but I don't really see anything inherently wrong about it for the average user other than wasting a lot of screen real estate.
Like most things, once you get used to it, it works fine for every day things.
Heres an even better idea, you could not give a shit that your searchs are logged and realize they don't give a damn what you do.
Paranoia is costing you more than you realize.
Yep, they sure are, making money off of someone elses work ... thats the true spirit of OSS.
Fortunately for Ubuntu, its entirely acceptable from Mozilla's standpoint, but it certainly qualifies them as fucking douche bags.
I agree, copyright and patents are immoral, thats why I have no problem including GPL code in my closed source projects ...
Okay okay, back to reality ...
I think you need to go figure out what immoral means.
yea, except bittorrent seeds indicate number of people watching content with no commercials, which are exactly what they DON'T want to see.
www.weather.com (or probably wunderground.com too, though I don't know for sure) will happily send you emails to alert you of weather issues. There are also plugins for Windows Media Center to look for weather alerts, I can't imagine someone hasn't made one for MythTV.
Personally, living in a city, I've found just listening for the sirens to be the most effective and easiest way to list for a weather issue, as long as your city isn't too new, you could probably do the same. I say too new as it seems that cities that weren't around during our major wars or near nuclear plants seem to be less likely to have adequate alert systems.
Hulu advertising works just like every other form of web advertising. You pay per impression. You know how many viewers your commercials got directly on your bill as an advertiser.
You agree to pay $X per impression, they send you a bill that says 'you got Y number of impressions at $X per impression for a total of $XY'
OR
You agree to pay $X per impression, up to a total ammount of $Y. You will get Y/X impressions for your money.
X is variable and depends on which show(s) you want your ad to be associated with.
You can do whatever you want with the hardware, you own it.
Likewise, the carrier can do whatever it wants with ITS hardware, including not letting you access their network without following their rules, regardless of how arbitrary or ridiculous those rules are.
It goes both ways.
Yes, the failure that is Palm is reaching for anything it can get, we got that.
The people who aren't going to be capable of doing this are the exact same group of people that DON'T GIVE A SHIT that they don't have root or that they update their firmware.
Get some perspective