I just quit from the 3rd startup I've worked for, because it was a shitty place to work.
So can you, and you don't need anyones help to do so.
If a startup is a shitty work environment... guess what... THATS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE.
Its in no way unique to techies in silicon valley, but its not surprising they have their heads so far up their asses as to think they need to start a social movement to 'fix the problem' of them being shitty employes that can't get jobs anywhere other than less than ideal businesses that expect them to work hard for the paycheck.
It doesn't magically go away, the company is going to stay that way for a while and you need to either be able to accept it, or find a new job, but thats not what you want. You want to tell your boss how you work and what he pays you, and thats simply not going to happen.
You want to become unemployed in a hurry, make it so your current working conditions are illegal and you'll suddenly find yourself unemployed. Why can I say this? Because you aren't fucking slave and you can go work elsewhere. Unqualified douches working at a sweatshop startup are whining because they don't work at Google as seen in the movie.
Guess what, theres a reason you're at the startup and not Google and it has nothing to do with the startup or google. You're not as great as you think you are, your job probably isn't half as shitty as your whining about and its probably better than any job you ever would have gotten had you been born 30 years earlier.
In short, shut the fuck up and DO SOMETHING rather than fucking whining about your lot in life, you're in fucking America you douche, you don't have a god damn think to whine about. (Blanket statements don't apply to everyone, but if you're whining about it on slashdot, you obviously aren't working that hard so you've just shown yourself to be full of shit)
That only makes sense in some bizarro world where your primary use of a text editor isn't adding text.
I'm not sure what development you do, but I'm not really that good at cutting and pasting blocks of text to create entirely new works.
I find it odd that you think its perfectly acceptable to spend most of your time in your editor not adding text, but rather fiddling with it and moving it around.
I'm fairly certain that you're doing it wrong. The guy you're replying to may be as well, but if you spend more time in command mode than insert mode I just can't see that you're really getting that much done. Do you copy and paste individual letters or something?
My previous employer did work in CICS for years, he's well out of the development game now and a 'serial startup guy' as he likes to call himself.
He KNOWS how to code, or at least, once did, I've heard from enough people that knew what he did at some large companies and validate his skills.
He will straight up ignore every fucking popup window that gets in front of him and just next -> next -> next -> finish through (windows user now) everything, or click whatever button seems most obvious on the popup... never reads anything.
We had a 'bug' in the installer I wrote. He and another 'old dude' who used to be on the xml standards committees (again, this guy has clout in technical circles of yester year). The bug was that it would reboot your machine, without asking you, during install if you had Outlook open and it would close ALL of your apps without prompting for saving or anything else... (it was an outlook plugin, easier to not install with Outlook open than to tell people they need to restart outlook for reasons that will become clear shortly).
So after explaining that I never could get that to happen to me in my environment (was working out of the country at the time, getting to stand next to them and watch them wasn't happening and for some reason I can't recall, vmc wasn't really an option either) I finally got back to the office where I could watch the process, where I was waiting to see how my NSIS installer was magically making things like Excel and Word close without saving files...
BOTH of them, got to the point where a popup came up and said 'Outlook is open, close outlook to continue ' and they'd just click next... at which point the installer says, Outlook is still running... a reboot is required to complete this installation, do you want to reboot now?' and they click next so fast I couldn't even stop them.
Better still... when Excel started asking them if they wanted to save... ON THOSE DIALOGS they fucking clicked NO, so fast I couldn't even say 'whoa, wait a second' their machine was already rebooting... after they clicked AT LEAST 4 boxes from different applications trying to slow them down and prevent the mistake.
The bug, was a PEBKAC bug with a bit of ID10-T thrown on top. I had to physically remove the mouse from one of their hands and run the installer myself to get them to actually read the message that they claimed they weren't seeing.
Another related story. I'm an IT guy, I have all those same IT shitty users stories most of slashdot has:) My pet peeve (like many of us) is people who don't read the message, and my wife, who has known how much that pisses me off since at least 2001 when it became a bigger issue for stupid reasons at one job calls me up the other day from her new job.
They sent her an email that she needed to change her password, they rotate on 90 days intervals. Its a university with some sort of identity management system in place that syncs all their systems and password changes are done via a website, fairly common setup for a university it seems though I don't know the specifics of the software involved yet.
So she clicks the link, changes her password and then tries to go visit some research paper website they have internally for internal releases of research papers for internal review and discussion before submitting to more formal publications, so she gets there and it says something wrong with her login/password. It never asks for a login password, just says no. So my eyes, recognizing that kerberos and/or ntlm is in play here said to her 'look sweetie, I don't know your setup, but since its not prompting you for a password, I bet if you just logout and log back in, it'll work. (Windows 'auto-corrects' a lot of silly issues for kerberos stuff on login and of course reinitializes your authentication ticket at login so your
The problem is simply that vi/vim aren't meant for the 21st century and trying to shoehorn it in is a stupid idea.
You're really inexperienced in the wide range of places vi ends up.
vi as you know it, works the same on pretty much EVERY unix at this stage, including tiny tiny embedded ones. I heard a rumor of which I'm entirely sure was false that its even been on one of nasa's creations floating around off in the cosmos.
You are not putting webkit on my raspberry pi, I want to see the text updated sometime today when I type, not next thursday when it spends the billion or so clock cycles required to render an update from my text input. Webkit, dynamically linked and compiled for optimized space... is an order of magnitude larger than total storage space one of my favorite little linux boxes, my CNC controller.
You would have to break all the things that cause people to use it... and then its not going to work the same on EVERY unix machine on the planet. vi's strength lies in the fact that as crappy as it is, its consistently crappy, the same way (vi feature set) across all machines, even the crappiest tiny embedded linux distro, to full server and desktops. I don't have to wonder what editor I'm going to have to find and use nor how it works.
Stop fucking with vi.
If you want a non-shitty editor, stop using a shitty editor thats meant to be tiny and 'get the job done', its like you guys think notepad (I know vim is not anywhere near the same class as notepad) is actually a GREAT DEVELOPMENT TOOL.
I'm sorry, and I know half of slashdot is about to asplode at my comment, but if you think vi/vim is a good editor choice, your choice in editors is fucking retarded and you need it beaten out of you. And yes, I know some of your biggest celebraties use vim with pride and brag about it... and the other half eats their own toe jam in public. Think about it. Not everything these developers do is a good idea, even if they are remarkable and prolific developers.
People are already making far more OpenGL games than DirectX games. Look at the Apple AppStore or GooglePlay games list then compare that to Windows desktop, Xbox (all games and variations) and Windows Phone. Apple alone blows MS away, add all the stuff from Android as well... well, DirectX isn't the leader in the gaming world, not by a long shot.
Okay, not really. But I was just lamenting last night how because of Xbox live/PSN, people don't get together to game as much.
In the dreamcast/early xbox days, my friends and I would get together at one of our houses (all young adults without real adult responsibilities yet other than feeding ourselves and paying the rent) and play games all the time. A couple at a time on the couch playing while the others in the group joked, watched, BSed and did other things. My wife participated in the discussion of those games even though she never played, just because of the environment.
Now, its net games and while 2 of us may talk about it, the 6 or so of our little click no longer has the conversation we once had. People not playing the game are simply not part of the game. And yes, my wife could pull up a console/laptop and 'watch' me play... but thats pretty lame.
The fun part of gaming to me was when my friends and I got together, same physical location, and played. It was really just like board games. Something cool would happen, like a cool trick in Tony Hawk, or that really smooth Top Gun like 'put on the brakes and he'll fly right by me' move you pulled off in Descent, and everyone, winner, loser, and non-players would get excited. It was like a mini sporting event.
Hell, even finding out why you just not beat one of your friends time after time is because he kept looking at your half of the screen was 'fun' as you all laughed about it afterwords. Wall-hacks don't have the same pleasure after the fact when it comes out.
You don't get any of that with net gaming. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE net games, but split screen, 5-6 of your friends sitting on the couch TOGETHER playing... THEN eating together or something... You don't see that anymore and that was just freaking awesome.
You can't 'tell them what you want'... they'll hand you back a slip and tell you to fill it out and sign it... which is what you do when you poke the buttons and enter your pin number at an ATM.
You're naive at best.
Banks are some of the most ruthlessly efficient organizations on the planet, by their very nature.
First off, those bored people behind the counters 'watching you fill out those ridiculous slips' aren't bored, I promise you they've been working ALL day, doing something the bank hasn't yet automated. Just because the counter is high and you can't see they've been counting night deposits doesn't mean they were just sitting back their rubbing one off.
Second, the slips are not so you can 'tell them', its so the bank has a record of what YOU told them you were asking for or giving them, and BEFORE The transactions complete, they can reject it. If they accept it, they have, IN WRITING, what YOU requested from them, and how they filled it. They are protected against YOUR mistakes in transactions. The ATM does the EXACT same thing, but you just don't realize its doing it. This is a matter OF LAW, not practice or fun. This kind of stuff goes right along with the regulations that let them put that nice little Insured by the FDIC sticker on the window.
Third, Awesome, you think because the bank has off loaded doing their job onto YOU and a machine, that people who use the old method, where the bank actually provides services... are the ones with a problem. And notice... those people have... money.
Irony: You think you're smarter because the bank is much more efficient at ripping you off than those stupid old people. Congratulations, there is an old dude sitting in an office, laughing his ass off about how you and the kind of ignorance you carry with you, filthy fucking rich.
ATMs are banks giving you less service and charging you for the privilege. You're an idiot. You kinds of guys are mind blowing to me. So excited about the new hotness not being 'old and busted' to notice that 'new hotness' is in fact, busted from the start and 'old and busted' got the job done better and cheaper.
What exploits do they need to patch against, exactly?
They aren't on the Internet. If anyone can get on their network, the bank has bigger problems than someone teardropping the ATMs already.
Why do they need patches for the OS? They are not general purpose devices. They don't need the newest directx/opengl. They actually DO NOT WANT CHANGE because that means they have to test more.
You upgrade because your time is worthless and you enjoy playing with new software. People maintaining ATMs have better shit to do than continually upgrading millions of machines... especially when the reason for the upgrade is something like 'new web browser' that will NEVER BE SEEN on the device.
There is no REASON to upgrade ATMs other than the bank has no features. The OS doesn't EVER NEED TO BE UPDATED.
Why does the OS need upgraded if for all practical purposes (this part is key, PRACTICAL, as in REAL WORLD, not theoretical) if there is no possible way any of those exploits can be exploited or if none of the new features can possibly be used because they are overlaid by a completely custom user interface.
You live in a 10 year old 'the internet is everything' mentality that pretty much only exists in San Francisco and in young adults who have no idea that there is a life outside of the Internet and there are methods other than falling the bleeding edge of technology that are far more productive.
Why upgrade when the upgrade provides no benefits, but it still cost time and resources... times MILLIONS of machines.
I would kill for a popular BSD licensed ASP.NET framework and CLR/CIL engine that I could count on, I'll accept using Mono in its place (god, does the mono XSP and related stuff not seem unreliable as hell to you?).
Do you feel that in your limited experience (based on this post alone) running ASP.NET on mono that its reasonable production ready?
I've been playing with it a FreeBSD server, but ngnix + fastcgi is the ONLY way I've actually gotten something other than XSP to serve pages, everything else crashes in some new and exciting way.
I'm looking at starting a new toy project soon, and ASP.NET would be my preferred framework, but I'm not doing it on Windows servers and Mono just makes me uncomfortable right now.
If the ribbon is your biggest problem with Office, you aren't the kind of person that matters.
People who matter are the ones USING the office products, not the ones who's spend their time dilly dallying with some interface bit they can't seem to get over.
Its really not that big of a deal once you stop making it a big deal. The fact that 7 years later... you're still freaking out about it, tells us that you don't actually do shit in your office suit or you'd have something that actually matters to bitch about.
Move on, if you ignore it, it really doesn't matter.
Sure, and I'm not arguing that. But the silly idea posted originally here is that git can magically be awesome without any 'company' pushing it, and thats just silly, there are A BUNCH of companies pushing it.
The original implication is that companies are the bringer of ruin, when in fact, companies are what allow open source to REALLY thrive.
Okay, actually git might be able to pull it off, because of Linus himself... but it'd be an up hill battle cause most of us care more about practicality than being a fanboy.
Primary development on all of those was paid for by a company, with the exceptions of kde, gnome/gtk/gimp) which I don't know the history off but I'd be welling to bet a good bit that it leans in my favor. The others... Apache, NGINX, Postgres, GCC... MOST CERTAINLY PAID FOR by companies. GPL3 dropped the number of contributing companies to GCC by a ridiculous amount and created LLVM, but you don't remember that, do you? Postgres kicks ass because of all the work EnterpriseDB puts into it. Apache and NGINX? Apache is old, I can see your confusion, but nginx... seriously? It was freaking created by a hosting company for fucks sake.
One person my have started those projects, but they got where they are today because of companies investing time and money into them.
You better go take a look at the commit logs of those projects, then come back with another try. When the majority of your commits come from someone working for a company paying them to work on your open source project, then its pretty fucking hard to act like your project is independent of company support.
Heh, why so you can have another party in the process fucking you over?
Unions don't help you, they help themselves at the cost of the company. If that HAPPENS to help you, fine, they won't prevent it, but you're an idiot if you think its about protecting you.
FYI - when a guy does it, he's a: dick, asshole, blowhard, cocksucker, <insert any insult you can think up>
Its not that it doesn't happen to men, its that they aren't bitching about it. And neither do most women, just a few loud mouths, generally calling themselves 'feminists'
Then you're a pretty drama queen kind of douche bag guy then.
I read her story and I see someone who can't accept the reality of working at most small companies - nepotism. Not exactly whats going on here, but close enough. Could be worse really, they could have just put her on the payroll, then Julie would have nothing at all to bitch about other than being naive.
She's pissed off because some women respected did some hula hooping and some guys watched them... in public... Jealous much? Thats what this is, she's jealous that those women are getting the attention, that then gets twisted into OMG GUYS ARE SCUM FOR WATCHING... you know WHY those women used the hula hoop AT A PARTY? TO GET FUCKING ATTENTION AND GUYS TO LOOK AT THEM.... So she's pissed off because those women got EXACTLY what they wanted... and she didn't.
And she can't deal with the fact that the bosses wife has a great deal of influence of the boss...
I'm sorry, if you can't deal with that last one, you are well and truly FUCKED in this world because that is a reality of EVERY BUSINESS ON THE PLANET.
The bosses wife (or husband) IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE MORE SAY THAN YOU DO. Perhaps one day get in a relationship and you'll understand the dynamics and you'll understand why the significant other carries so much weight.
If you continue you ignore it and pretend like it doesn't happen, you'll simply never get anywhere... and you'll probably remain single as well.
Hope she likes being a figure head for feminism (I did not say women's rights), because thats all anyone is going to think of her for the rest of her life. She had something[ to bitch about and turned it into a men vs women thing. She's more sexist than anyone she's bitching about.
You don't scream sexism and then exclusively talk about how a member of the same sex harassed you, and then casually mention something SOME ONE ELSE DID AND SOMEONE ELSE LOOKED AT... which Julie had ABSOLUTELY NO INVOLVEMENT WHAT SO EVER with... as your reason for leaving. She's a worthless trouble maker doing nothing other than making women look bad.
If the bosses wife did try to job assassinate her, which is more or less what she's claiming, then leaving is the right thing to do. Ranting and raving about it on some sensationalizing blog so you get some attention? That just makes you look like you're causing problems. If you feel the same as her, you are part of the problem and need help. You guys are truly fucked up and WAY to sensitive about shit that has nothing at all to do with you. Get help, the problem is yours, not ours.
Or you could just use a fucking keruig or whatever instead of being an even more trendy asshole than those people and save yourself all the time and waiting that you seem to be bitching about with your superior solution.
Jesus, you people go through a lot of work to drink a drink that tastes like burnt assholes and argue over which particular burnt mix tastes better than the other.
Its fucking coffee, NONE of it tastes 'good', you're just arguing over various definitions for burnt asshole.
... Contrary to what you might think, even IT businesses are not involved with ONLY IT when it comes to running a company.
If the companies purpose is IT, its not inconceivable that half the company is NOT directly IT related. Sales, marketing, management, office staff (secretaries, janitors, repair workers, someone to water the plants) generally make up more of the company than the people who do what the companies primary focus is.
I've done a lot of development as well as some sysadmin and desktop support in my younger days, I've never seen a development firm where at least half of the firm was developers. Its always been less than 50% actual developers, and a bunch of support staff, and that happens to pretty much any company that doesn't operate out of a shoebox.
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I just quit from the 3rd startup I've worked for, because it was a shitty place to work.
So can you, and you don't need anyones help to do so.
If a startup is a shitty work environment ... guess what ... THATS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE.
Its in no way unique to techies in silicon valley, but its not surprising they have their heads so far up their asses as to think they need to start a social movement to 'fix the problem' of them being shitty employes that can't get jobs anywhere other than less than ideal businesses that expect them to work hard for the paycheck.
It doesn't magically go away, the company is going to stay that way for a while and you need to either be able to accept it, or find a new job, but thats not what you want. You want to tell your boss how you work and what he pays you, and thats simply not going to happen.
You want to become unemployed in a hurry, make it so your current working conditions are illegal and you'll suddenly find yourself unemployed. Why can I say this? Because you aren't fucking slave and you can go work elsewhere. Unqualified douches working at a sweatshop startup are whining because they don't work at Google as seen in the movie.
Guess what, theres a reason you're at the startup and not Google and it has nothing to do with the startup or google. You're not as great as you think you are, your job probably isn't half as shitty as your whining about and its probably better than any job you ever would have gotten had you been born 30 years earlier.
In short, shut the fuck up and DO SOMETHING rather than fucking whining about your lot in life, you're in fucking America you douche, you don't have a god damn think to whine about. (Blanket statements don't apply to everyone, but if you're whining about it on slashdot, you obviously aren't working that hard so you've just shown yourself to be full of shit)
Not really. Most code is highly repetitive, and I typically copy far more words than I type out.
You're doing it wrong, thats the problem.
If you're continually copy and pasting code to reuse it, you are most certainly doing it epically wrong.
That only makes sense in some bizarro world where your primary use of a text editor isn't adding text.
I'm not sure what development you do, but I'm not really that good at cutting and pasting blocks of text to create entirely new works.
I find it odd that you think its perfectly acceptable to spend most of your time in your editor not adding text, but rather fiddling with it and moving it around.
I'm fairly certain that you're doing it wrong. The guy you're replying to may be as well, but if you spend more time in command mode than insert mode I just can't see that you're really getting that much done. Do you copy and paste individual letters or something?
My previous employer did work in CICS for years, he's well out of the development game now and a 'serial startup guy' as he likes to call himself.
He KNOWS how to code, or at least, once did, I've heard from enough people that knew what he did at some large companies and validate his skills.
He will straight up ignore every fucking popup window that gets in front of him and just next -> next -> next -> finish through (windows user now) everything, or click whatever button seems most obvious on the popup ... never reads anything.
We had a 'bug' in the installer I wrote. He and another 'old dude' who used to be on the xml standards committees (again, this guy has clout in technical circles of yester year). The bug was that it would reboot your machine, without asking you, during install if you had Outlook open and it would close ALL of your apps without prompting for saving or anything else ... (it was an outlook plugin, easier to not install with Outlook open than to tell people they need to restart outlook for reasons that will become clear shortly).
So after explaining that I never could get that to happen to me in my environment (was working out of the country at the time, getting to stand next to them and watch them wasn't happening and for some reason I can't recall, vmc wasn't really an option either) I finally got back to the office where I could watch the process, where I was waiting to see how my NSIS installer was magically making things like Excel and Word close without saving files ...
BOTH of them, got to the point where a popup came up and said 'Outlook is open, close outlook to continue ' and they'd just click next ... at which point the installer says, Outlook is still running ... a reboot is required to complete this installation, do you want to reboot now?' and they click next so fast I couldn't even stop them.
Better still ... when Excel started asking them if they wanted to save ... ON THOSE DIALOGS they fucking clicked NO, so fast I couldn't even say 'whoa, wait a second' their machine was already rebooting ... after they clicked AT LEAST 4 boxes from different applications trying to slow them down and prevent the mistake.
The bug, was a PEBKAC bug with a bit of ID10-T thrown on top. I had to physically remove the mouse from one of their hands and run the installer myself to get them to actually read the message that they claimed they weren't seeing.
Another related story. I'm an IT guy, I have all those same IT shitty users stories most of slashdot has :) My pet peeve (like many of us) is people who don't read the message, and my wife, who has known how much that pisses me off since at least 2001 when it became a bigger issue for stupid reasons at one job calls me up the other day from her new job.
They sent her an email that she needed to change her password, they rotate on 90 days intervals. Its a university with some sort of identity management system in place that syncs all their systems and password changes are done via a website, fairly common setup for a university it seems though I don't know the specifics of the software involved yet.
So she clicks the link, changes her password and then tries to go visit some research paper website they have internally for internal releases of research papers for internal review and discussion before submitting to more formal publications, so she gets there and it says something wrong with her login/password. It never asks for a login password, just says no. So my eyes, recognizing that kerberos and/or ntlm is in play here said to her 'look sweetie, I don't know your setup, but since its not prompting you for a password, I bet if you just logout and log back in, it'll work. (Windows 'auto-corrects' a lot of silly issues for kerberos stuff on login and of course reinitializes your authentication ticket at login so your
The problem is simply that vi/vim aren't meant for the 21st century and trying to shoehorn it in is a stupid idea.
You're really inexperienced in the wide range of places vi ends up.
vi as you know it, works the same on pretty much EVERY unix at this stage, including tiny tiny embedded ones. I heard a rumor of which I'm entirely sure was false that its even been on one of nasa's creations floating around off in the cosmos.
You are not putting webkit on my raspberry pi, I want to see the text updated sometime today when I type, not next thursday when it spends the billion or so clock cycles required to render an update from my text input. Webkit, dynamically linked and compiled for optimized space ... is an order of magnitude larger than total storage space one of my favorite little linux boxes, my CNC controller.
You would have to break all the things that cause people to use it ... and then its not going to work the same on EVERY unix machine on the planet. vi's strength lies in the fact that as crappy as it is, its consistently crappy, the same way (vi feature set) across all machines, even the crappiest tiny embedded linux distro, to full server and desktops. I don't have to wonder what editor I'm going to have to find and use nor how it works.
Stop fucking with vi.
If you want a non-shitty editor, stop using a shitty editor thats meant to be tiny and 'get the job done', its like you guys think notepad (I know vim is not anywhere near the same class as notepad) is actually a GREAT DEVELOPMENT TOOL.
I'm sorry, and I know half of slashdot is about to asplode at my comment, but if you think vi/vim is a good editor choice, your choice in editors is fucking retarded and you need it beaten out of you. And yes, I know some of your biggest celebraties use vim with pride and brag about it ... and the other half eats their own toe jam in public. Think about it. Not everything these developers do is a good idea, even if they are remarkable and prolific developers.
People are already making far more OpenGL games than DirectX games. Look at the Apple AppStore or GooglePlay games list then compare that to Windows desktop, Xbox (all games and variations) and Windows Phone. Apple alone blows MS away, add all the stuff from Android as well ... well, DirectX isn't the leader in the gaming world, not by a long shot.
Okay, not really. But I was just lamenting last night how because of Xbox live/PSN, people don't get together to game as much.
In the dreamcast/early xbox days, my friends and I would get together at one of our houses (all young adults without real adult responsibilities yet other than feeding ourselves and paying the rent) and play games all the time. A couple at a time on the couch playing while the others in the group joked, watched, BSed and did other things. My wife participated in the discussion of those games even though she never played, just because of the environment.
Now, its net games and while 2 of us may talk about it, the 6 or so of our little click no longer has the conversation we once had. People not playing the game are simply not part of the game. And yes, my wife could pull up a console/laptop and 'watch' me play ... but thats pretty lame.
The fun part of gaming to me was when my friends and I got together, same physical location, and played. It was really just like board games. Something cool would happen, like a cool trick in Tony Hawk, or that really smooth Top Gun like 'put on the brakes and he'll fly right by me' move you pulled off in Descent, and everyone, winner, loser, and non-players would get excited. It was like a mini sporting event.
Hell, even finding out why you just not beat one of your friends time after time is because he kept looking at your half of the screen was 'fun' as you all laughed about it afterwords. Wall-hacks don't have the same pleasure after the fact when it comes out.
You don't get any of that with net gaming. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE net games, but split screen, 5-6 of your friends sitting on the couch TOGETHER playing ... THEN eating together or something ... You don't see that anymore and that was just freaking awesome.
You can't 'tell them what you want' ... they'll hand you back a slip and tell you to fill it out and sign it ... which is what you do when you poke the buttons and enter your pin number at an ATM.
You're naive at best.
Banks are some of the most ruthlessly efficient organizations on the planet, by their very nature.
First off, those bored people behind the counters 'watching you fill out those ridiculous slips' aren't bored, I promise you they've been working ALL day, doing something the bank hasn't yet automated. Just because the counter is high and you can't see they've been counting night deposits doesn't mean they were just sitting back their rubbing one off.
Second, the slips are not so you can 'tell them', its so the bank has a record of what YOU told them you were asking for or giving them, and BEFORE The transactions complete, they can reject it. If they accept it, they have, IN WRITING, what YOU requested from them, and how they filled it. They are protected against YOUR mistakes in transactions. The ATM does the EXACT same thing, but you just don't realize its doing it. This is a matter OF LAW, not practice or fun. This kind of stuff goes right along with the regulations that let them put that nice little Insured by the FDIC sticker on the window.
Third, Awesome, you think because the bank has off loaded doing their job onto YOU and a machine, that people who use the old method, where the bank actually provides services ... are the ones with a problem. And notice ... those people have ... money.
Irony: You think you're smarter because the bank is much more efficient at ripping you off than those stupid old people. Congratulations, there is an old dude sitting in an office, laughing his ass off about how you and the kind of ignorance you carry with you, filthy fucking rich.
ATMs are banks giving you less service and charging you for the privilege. You're an idiot. You kinds of guys are mind blowing to me. So excited about the new hotness not being 'old and busted' to notice that 'new hotness' is in fact, busted from the start and 'old and busted' got the job done better and cheaper.
What exploits do they need to patch against, exactly?
They aren't on the Internet. If anyone can get on their network, the bank has bigger problems than someone teardropping the ATMs already.
Why do they need patches for the OS? They are not general purpose devices. They don't need the newest directx/opengl. They actually DO NOT WANT CHANGE because that means they have to test more.
You upgrade because your time is worthless and you enjoy playing with new software. People maintaining ATMs have better shit to do than continually upgrading millions of machines ... especially when the reason for the upgrade is something like 'new web browser' that will NEVER BE SEEN on the device.
There is no REASON to upgrade ATMs other than the bank has no features. The OS doesn't EVER NEED TO BE UPDATED.
Why does the OS need upgraded if for all practical purposes (this part is key, PRACTICAL, as in REAL WORLD, not theoretical) if there is no possible way any of those exploits can be exploited or if none of the new features can possibly be used because they are overlaid by a completely custom user interface.
You live in a 10 year old 'the internet is everything' mentality that pretty much only exists in San Francisco and in young adults who have no idea that there is a life outside of the Internet and there are methods other than falling the bleeding edge of technology that are far more productive.
Why upgrade when the upgrade provides no benefits, but it still cost time and resources ... times MILLIONS of machines.
Pardon the ignorance, what are you referencing?
runs the place.
If you didn't know he was going to rob you just by looking at him, you deserved it.
I would kill for a popular BSD licensed ASP.NET framework and CLR/CIL engine that I could count on, I'll accept using Mono in its place (god, does the mono XSP and related stuff not seem unreliable as hell to you?).
Do you feel that in your limited experience (based on this post alone) running ASP.NET on mono that its reasonable production ready?
I've been playing with it a FreeBSD server, but ngnix + fastcgi is the ONLY way I've actually gotten something other than XSP to serve pages, everything else crashes in some new and exciting way.
I'm looking at starting a new toy project soon, and ASP.NET would be my preferred framework, but I'm not doing it on Windows servers and Mono just makes me uncomfortable right now.
You do realize that the planet Golgafrinchem was ACTUALLY destroyed by a virulent disease spread on a dirty telephone, right?
You guys randomly quote Douglas Adams and then utterly fail to see his point.
The telephone sanitizers inherited the Earth, and the people Golgafrinchem freaking died out.
You do not want to ship them all off.
Ex. People who remember Dr Pepper because "not for women."
Other than you, who remembers THAT? I don't even think Dr Pepper does.
If the ribbon is your biggest problem with Office, you aren't the kind of person that matters.
People who matter are the ones USING the office products, not the ones who's spend their time dilly dallying with some interface bit they can't seem to get over.
Its really not that big of a deal once you stop making it a big deal. The fact that 7 years later ... you're still freaking out about it, tells us that you don't actually do shit in your office suit or you'd have something that actually matters to bitch about.
Move on, if you ignore it, it really doesn't matter.
So you've never used Apple Server then? Because it pretty much does exactly what you're talking about, and it costs $15 once, not $5/year/per month
Sure, and I'm not arguing that. But the silly idea posted originally here is that git can magically be awesome without any 'company' pushing it, and thats just silly, there are A BUNCH of companies pushing it.
The original implication is that companies are the bringer of ruin, when in fact, companies are what allow open source to REALLY thrive.
Okay, actually git might be able to pull it off, because of Linus himself ... but it'd be an up hill battle cause most of us care more about practicality than being a fanboy.
Primary development on all of those was paid for by a company, with the exceptions of kde, gnome/gtk/gimp) which I don't know the history off but I'd be welling to bet a good bit that it leans in my favor. The others ... Apache, NGINX, Postgres, GCC ... MOST CERTAINLY PAID FOR by companies. GPL3 dropped the number of contributing companies to GCC by a ridiculous amount and created LLVM, but you don't remember that, do you? Postgres kicks ass because of all the work EnterpriseDB puts into it. Apache and NGINX? Apache is old, I can see your confusion, but nginx ... seriously? It was freaking created by a hosting company for fucks sake.
One person my have started those projects, but they got where they are today because of companies investing time and money into them.
You better go take a look at the commit logs of those projects, then come back with another try. When the majority of your commits come from someone working for a company paying them to work on your open source project, then its pretty fucking hard to act like your project is independent of company support.
Heh, why so you can have another party in the process fucking you over?
Unions don't help you, they help themselves at the cost of the company. If that HAPPENS to help you, fine, they won't prevent it, but you're an idiot if you think its about protecting you.
FYI - when a guy does it, he's a: dick, asshole, blowhard, cocksucker, <insert any insult you can think up>
Its not that it doesn't happen to men, its that they aren't bitching about it. And neither do most women, just a few loud mouths, generally calling themselves 'feminists'
If calling you bossy makes you not a leader, you aren't a leader in the first place.
Then you're a pretty drama queen kind of douche bag guy then.
I read her story and I see someone who can't accept the reality of working at most small companies - nepotism. Not exactly whats going on here, but close enough. Could be worse really, they could have just put her on the payroll, then Julie would have nothing at all to bitch about other than being naive.
She's pissed off because some women respected did some hula hooping and some guys watched them ... in public ... Jealous much? Thats what this is, she's jealous that those women are getting the attention, that then gets twisted into OMG GUYS ARE SCUM FOR WATCHING ... you know WHY those women used the hula hoop AT A PARTY? TO GET FUCKING ATTENTION AND GUYS TO LOOK AT THEM. ... So she's pissed off because those women got EXACTLY what they wanted ... and she didn't.
And she can't deal with the fact that the bosses wife has a great deal of influence of the boss ...
I'm sorry, if you can't deal with that last one, you are well and truly FUCKED in this world because that is a reality of EVERY BUSINESS ON THE PLANET.
The bosses wife (or husband) IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE MORE SAY THAN YOU DO. Perhaps one day get in a relationship and you'll understand the dynamics and you'll understand why the significant other carries so much weight.
If you continue you ignore it and pretend like it doesn't happen, you'll simply never get anywhere ... and you'll probably remain single as well.
Hope she likes being a figure head for feminism (I did not say women's rights), because thats all anyone is going to think of her for the rest of her life. She had something[ to bitch about and turned it into a men vs women thing. She's more sexist than anyone she's bitching about.
You don't scream sexism and then exclusively talk about how a member of the same sex harassed you, and then casually mention something SOME ONE ELSE DID AND SOMEONE ELSE LOOKED AT ... which Julie had ABSOLUTELY NO INVOLVEMENT WHAT SO EVER with ... as your reason for leaving. She's a worthless trouble maker doing nothing other than making women look bad.
If the bosses wife did try to job assassinate her, which is more or less what she's claiming, then leaving is the right thing to do. Ranting and raving about it on some sensationalizing blog so you get some attention? That just makes you look like you're causing problems.
If you feel the same as her, you are part of the problem and need help. You guys are truly fucked up and WAY to sensitive about shit that has nothing at all to do with you. Get help, the problem is yours, not ours.
Or you could just use a fucking keruig or whatever instead of being an even more trendy asshole than those people and save yourself all the time and waiting that you seem to be bitching about with your superior solution.
Jesus, you people go through a lot of work to drink a drink that tastes like burnt assholes and argue over which particular burnt mix tastes better than the other.
Its fucking coffee, NONE of it tastes 'good', you're just arguing over various definitions for burnt asshole.
... Contrary to what you might think, even IT businesses are not involved with ONLY IT when it comes to running a company.
If the companies purpose is IT, its not inconceivable that half the company is NOT directly IT related. Sales, marketing, management, office staff (secretaries, janitors, repair workers, someone to water the plants) generally make up more of the company than the people who do what the companies primary focus is.
I've done a lot of development as well as some sysadmin and desktop support in my younger days, I've never seen a development firm where at least half of the firm was developers. Its always been less than 50% actual developers, and a bunch of support staff, and that happens to pretty much any company that doesn't operate out of a shoebox.