The argument against that attitude is that if everyone who didn't like the current state of a given OSS project didn't use it, no OSS project would ever grow past the point where it was one person's pet project.
If you like everything about a project, why try to make it better by contributing?
GP poster actually introduced the spelling error in his comment; the page he linked to uses the "correct" spelling, insofar as there is a correct transliteration from any language into another.
Of course, making spelling errors when correcting someone else's spelling is a good way to attract lots of meta-pedantic flames.
Only if by "none" you mean "enough to show detail of the cities where about 1/3 of the population lives."
British Columbia, Ontario, and Quebec all seem to have maps as detailed in the maximum zoom as US cities. Winnipeg also has street-level detail. Oddly, Edmonton and Calgary don't. But it's still a beta.
Yes, businesses use perl for business-critical applications. Why do you think that proves anything about the theory of designing languages? Businesses used Windows 3.1, too. Does that prove that it's the perfect operating system, so no one should have bothered to develop any new ones?
Businesses need to use some tool that exists now. Alan Kay, who is hardly ignorant about the subject, doesn't think there isany existing language that doesn't have some sort of problems, so saying that perl has problems isn't "anti-Perl" talk. He has the same sort of concerns about Smalltalk, which he invented himself. Getting upset about some quote about where your favorite language went wrong is just moronic. All languages have gone wrong, and that's the problem he's talking about.
Go to your nearest university library and browse through some PhD dissertations. You'd be amazed.
And it's not even just the technical fields; even in the humanities people can't write. I've seen philosophy dissertations where the grammar is so bad that it's impossible to tell whether the author's argument is actually coherent or not, and it makes me think that no one on dissertation committees actually reads the damn things.
It was an attempt to say that European settlers were responsible (mostly by introducing smallpox, but also through war) for nearly wiping out most of the civilizations in the Americas.
Stop being so paranoid about the "America haters" you think are lurking in your closet.
Actually, I'm fairly certain that Mr. Kay is more concerned with how we should design programming languages. If you ask him which language [idealized figure] would design, he'll almost certainly tell you that it's not one that's been designed yet, and he'd probably be willing to accept that he's probably not going to be the one to design it.
I'm pretty sure that if you suggested to him that designing a language by following Perl's example was a good idea, he'd laugh at you, though.
Umm, that's his point. People use it as a general purpose language because they can. It started off as something useful for writing small tools, then got extended so you can do just about anything with it, without really being designed from the outset to be like that.
If you're using it as a much more powerful replacement to sed, it's a great tool. If you're using it to replace C to develop complex application, you're proving Mr. Kay's point.
I find it ironic that someone with a sig saying "the conservative right is always wrong" and accusing me of loving government propaganda (for the record, I'm liberal and proud of it) argues that if the "free market" (and if you consider the market for TV shows to be a free one, you're living in some sort of right wing fantasy land yourself) kills off a show, then it would be wrong to try to bring it back.
Even if your premises were true, what the hell makes the oligopoly of TV station owners the only valid market? Aren't these people acting freely as part of your beloved Invisible Hand, mr. free-market laissez-faire "liberal"?
I'm guessing the idea of a RAID of iPod Shuffles began with alcohol too.
It's probably unlikely to end with a Darwin Awards entry, though, unless there's a mjor design flaw.
A RAID of 40GB iPods would be orders of magnitude more useful, but if you've got that kind of money you'd be better off buying an Xserve RAID; you can get a 1 TB unit for the price you'd pay for a 600GB iPod RAID, without the rats nest of firewire cables (not to mention the really slow performance).
Which is why I said "the web", not "the internet".
If you honestly expect me to believe you got your slashdot ID in 1978, using a teletype, I'm going to find it hard to find anything you say credible.
I've got a very high slashdot ID, and I'm 2 years older than CmdrTaco. I hardly think you can correlate ID numbers with age or even length of web use (I used the NCSA Mosaic betas back in the day. Sure, anyone who's been here since 1997 is probably over 18 or so, but other than that you can't infer much.
No, we're talking about YOU personally wasting money that you should be giving to fund cancer research. Any penny that you spend on yourself is a moral outrage, hypocrite.
You do realize that slashdot (and, for that matter, the web) came into existance long after the Six Million Dollar Man was on TV, and also long after Speaker For the Dead?
It would hardly be difficult for someone with a low ID to have been born after the TV show went off the air.
The problem is, she claims there are very few recent books on AppleScript, especially geared toward beginners, and then doesn't even MENTION the recent, geared toward beginners book in the title of the article. Unless being released 2 months ago makes "Beginning AppleScript" not recent enough.
Ok, but why would anyone be running cron from the terminal in the first place? If your cron process is dying often enough that you need a GUI icon to restart it, there's something seriously wrong with your machine.
Oddly enough, I'm using Firefox 0.9.1 still and it does work after restarting. Looks like someone broke the code to actually load that property in the 1.0 release.
"Global tsunami"? Those of us who live hundreds of miles inland (or, really, even hundreds of yards inland) will take comfort in the fact that an alien invasion or solar eruption are orders of magnitude more likely to kill us than the latest media frenzy.
Clearly, we need to get everyone in the world to download the source, make one superficial change, and email the entire thing back to the original developer.
And what happens if the original developer dies? Is everyone prohibited from using his code until the copright runs out in 95 years, as they can't notify him of changes?
99% of all jobs in the world require no programming at all. Therefore, there is no need for anyone anywhere to learn C.
90% of the worlds' people do not own cars. Therefore, there is no need for gas stations. If you pick a living human completely at random from the earth, chances are they don't drive one of these "car" things.
I think what had me confused is the use of the word "use" in the dual license FAQ.
I read it as prohibiting use of even open source programs built with Qt in a commercial setting without a commercial license, which would violate the GPL. It's clear from other posters in this thread that it's prohibiting only the development of closed source software without a commercial license.
Of course, I'm not entirely convinced that even resolving this ambiguity helps; I'm fairly certain that the GPL allows me to develop closed-source software from GPLed code for use in any setting I want to use it in, as long as I don't actually distribute the derived program to anyone else. (e.g., if an investment banker somewhere wants to write a program using Qt for his own use in his office, for a commercial purpose, without distributing the program or the source, the FAQ seems to prohibit that, but the GPL says it's perfectly fine.)
They claim that to use their software in a commercial setting (or to develop proprietary software from their code, which isn't an issue), you need to buy a commercial license rather than using the GPL. By releasing their software under the GPL, aren't they making it impossible to require a commercial license for use in any setting?
Can't I just download their software under the GPL, and redistribute it to anyone to be used under any setting at all?
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If you like everything about a project, why try to make it better by contributing?
Most high end photoshop users are probably using a Wacom tablet instead of a mouse, though.
Of course, making spelling errors when correcting someone else's spelling is a good way to attract lots of meta-pedantic flames.
British Columbia, Ontario, and Quebec all seem to have maps as detailed in the maximum zoom as US cities. Winnipeg also has street-level detail. Oddly, Edmonton and Calgary don't. But it's still a beta.
You're wrong. His name contains none of those Roman letters you typed it in.
Yes, businesses use perl for business-critical applications. Why do you think that proves anything about the theory of designing languages? Businesses used Windows 3.1, too. Does that prove that it's the perfect operating system, so no one should have bothered to develop any new ones?
Businesses need to use some tool that exists now. Alan Kay, who is hardly ignorant about the subject, doesn't think there isany existing language that doesn't have some sort of problems, so saying that perl has problems isn't "anti-Perl" talk. He has the same sort of concerns about Smalltalk, which he invented himself. Getting upset about some quote about where your favorite language went wrong is just moronic. All languages have gone wrong, and that's the problem he's talking about.
And it's not even just the technical fields; even in the humanities people can't write. I've seen philosophy dissertations where the grammar is so bad that it's impossible to tell whether the author's argument is actually coherent or not, and it makes me think that no one on dissertation committees actually reads the damn things.
It was an attempt to say that European settlers were responsible (mostly by introducing smallpox, but also through war) for nearly wiping out most of the civilizations in the Americas.
Stop being so paranoid about the "America haters" you think are lurking in your closet.
I'm pretty sure that if you suggested to him that designing a language by following Perl's example was a good idea, he'd laugh at you, though.
If you're using it as a much more powerful replacement to sed, it's a great tool. If you're using it to replace C to develop complex application, you're proving Mr. Kay's point.
Even if your premises were true, what the hell makes the oligopoly of TV station owners the only valid market? Aren't these people acting freely as part of your beloved Invisible Hand, mr. free-market laissez-faire "liberal"?
It's probably unlikely to end with a Darwin Awards entry, though, unless there's a mjor design flaw.
A RAID of 40GB iPods would be orders of magnitude more useful, but if you've got that kind of money you'd be better off buying an Xserve RAID; you can get a 1 TB unit for the price you'd pay for a 600GB iPod RAID, without the rats nest of firewire cables (not to mention the really slow performance).
If you honestly expect me to believe you got your slashdot ID in 1978, using a teletype, I'm going to find it hard to find anything you say credible.
I've got a very high slashdot ID, and I'm 2 years older than CmdrTaco. I hardly think you can correlate ID numbers with age or even length of web use (I used the NCSA Mosaic betas back in the day. Sure, anyone who's been here since 1997 is probably over 18 or so, but other than that you can't infer much.
No, we're talking about YOU personally wasting money that you should be giving to fund cancer research. Any penny that you spend on yourself is a moral outrage, hypocrite.
It would hardly be difficult for someone with a low ID to have been born after the TV show went off the air.
The problem is, she claims there are very few recent books on AppleScript, especially geared toward beginners, and then doesn't even MENTION the recent, geared toward beginners book in the title of the article. Unless being released 2 months ago makes "Beginning AppleScript" not recent enough.
Ok, but why would anyone be running cron from the terminal in the first place? If your cron process is dying often enough that you need a GUI icon to restart it, there's something seriously wrong with your machine.
It's obviously a pseudonym. Everyone knows there are no women on slashdot.
Umm, did the submitter change his mind about which AppleScript book he was reviewing after typing in the title for his submission?
Oddly enough, I'm using Firefox 0.9.1 still and it does work after restarting. Looks like someone broke the code to actually load that property in the 1.0 release.
"Global tsunami"? Those of us who live hundreds of miles inland (or, really, even hundreds of yards inland) will take comfort in the fact that an alien invasion or solar eruption are orders of magnitude more likely to kill us than the latest media frenzy.
And what happens if the original developer dies? Is everyone prohibited from using his code until the copright runs out in 95 years, as they can't notify him of changes?
90% of the worlds' people do not own cars. Therefore, there is no need for gas stations. If you pick a living human completely at random from the earth, chances are they don't drive one of these "car" things.
I read it as prohibiting use of even open source programs built with Qt in a commercial setting without a commercial license, which would violate the GPL. It's clear from other posters in this thread that it's prohibiting only the development of closed source software without a commercial license.
Of course, I'm not entirely convinced that even resolving this ambiguity helps; I'm fairly certain that the GPL allows me to develop closed-source software from GPLed code for use in any setting I want to use it in, as long as I don't actually distribute the derived program to anyone else. (e.g., if an investment banker somewhere wants to write a program using Qt for his own use in his office, for a commercial purpose, without distributing the program or the source, the FAQ seems to prohibit that, but the GPL says it's perfectly fine.)
Can't I just download their software under the GPL, and redistribute it to anyone to be used under any setting at all?