Whoever modded this overrated is dead on. I'm surprised it actually made it to 5. It does seem to have spawned some interesting discussion though, which is all I'm after:3
Each of those things you use to try to lump everyone who disagrees with you as 'mired in the past' has some sort of significant advantage over modern replacements that enabled the technology to persist far, far beyond their popular use. Headphone jack doesn't even qualify in the same way, as the concept predates (in common usage) most of these technologies, and has also outlived a number of them. In the case of the standard headphone jack, its ubiquity is a major feature. What's next on the chopping block for you? The wheel? Shoes? What semi-or-completely-proprietary corporate controlled solutions do you have in mind for those? Hell, an ice-filled cooler is like a wireless fridge, so I guess you can throw out your refrigerator now.
I can kind of sympathize with the removal of the status bar and menu bar, but only for people stuck on rubbish 1280x720 and 1366x768 screens... Horizontal screen real estate is not what's at a premium here, seriously. Why not just sell it off to Google at this point, so they can gut it and finish butchering it?
The trend of automatically hiding elements that are critical to navigation, or basic program function (e.g. scrollbars, the copy button in 1Password) is a scourge. Doesn't matter if you show it when the mouse gets close enough, as it's unintuitive.
Dynamic elements that cause other elements to rearrange themselves when they update (or are hidden/shown) are also a scourge. Looking at you, browser guys. Horizontal screen real estate is not what's at a premium. you don't need to hide nav buttons for any reason, on all but the tiniest of screens.
Finally, regarding flat UI design: imagine editing a spreadsheet with no gridlines drawn. That's what using flat UIs tends to feel like. You need clear boundaries to visually demonstrate where the program will accept an input for each given action. Something, something, scourge.
Sadly, gone are the days of including an uninstaller shortcut; Windows 8 and 10 "start" systems don't really jive with it, though many softwares still do include one, and the search function will usually find it if someone searches for it. That being said, the Windows add/remove program control panel applet ("appwiz.cpl") has been around for 20+ years, so unless someone has exempted/partially exempted themselves from this avenue of uninstallation, the potential for harm seems quite low. Agreed though, uninstallation documentation seems like a no-brainer.
That being said, with this sort of bloat, you'd think they'd consider tweaking the nupkg compressor/decompressor (seems to be very much non-optimized ZIP) to bring that size down a bit.
Regarding installer size, this appears to be easily blamed on Electron/node.js dependencies. The node modules themselves compress to ~54MB, and what I presume to be the electron runtime (main executable) to ~36MB.
Now as for the executable itself being ~86MB, I've got no immediate explanation beyond likely static linking of libraries. Does it represent the full electron runtime environment or something? Forgive me, I know effectively nothing about electron.
Regarding installer size, given current (long time standing, actually) trends in software, it's probably heaps of included libraries and poorly optimized graphical assets. That and not every installer packager uses super-efficient compression. Disclaimer: all speculation on my part; perhaps i'll be arsed to look into the real reasons why, but no promises.
I imagine that going up against Google in court is something like crawling out of a structure fire with an air conditioning unit fallen on your back, while lawyers and board members stand near the door, lighting their cigars on the flames and taunting you
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Whoever modded this overrated is dead on. I'm surprised it actually made it to 5. It does seem to have spawned some interesting discussion though, which is all I'm after :3
Not an idiot, just misguided. They folks have some sort of delusion of a unified web experience, but I don't quite get what they're driving at.
Each of those things you use to try to lump everyone who disagrees with you as 'mired in the past' has some sort of significant advantage over modern replacements that enabled the technology to persist far, far beyond their popular use. Headphone jack doesn't even qualify in the same way, as the concept predates (in common usage) most of these technologies, and has also outlived a number of them. In the case of the standard headphone jack, its ubiquity is a major feature. What's next on the chopping block for you? The wheel? Shoes? What semi-or-completely-proprietary corporate controlled solutions do you have in mind for those? Hell, an ice-filled cooler is like a wireless fridge, so I guess you can throw out your refrigerator now.
Creative! Minds! Make! Creative! Products! - Yahoo!
I can kind of sympathize with the removal of the status bar and menu bar, but only for people stuck on rubbish 1280x720 and 1366x768 screens... Horizontal screen real estate is not what's at a premium here, seriously. Why not just sell it off to Google at this point, so they can gut it and finish butchering it?
Just like they like; Google really, really wants your keystrokes too.
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Mozilla: do what you can to arrest your declining market share! Hint: it's not continued attempts at emulating Chrome.
searching the PM plugins interface yields VideoDownloadHelper 4.9.24.1-signed, is this not what you're after?
GreaseMonkey is likely the only casualty that many will care about. Guerilla Scripting appears to be a less-refined, but compatible, alternative.
golf, backspin. the effect is more or less instantaneously visible in table tennis, also, due to the very low mass of the ball.
... it seems we have come full circle on ship propulsion technology.
(I did read TFA - sorry, won't happen again)
You're on thin ice, buddy.
Can't imagine this would actually lead to an uptick in conversions, only frustration... sad but true though.
Oh great, another AC whiner that doesn't understand what a discussion forum is.
The trend of automatically hiding elements that are critical to navigation, or basic program function (e.g. scrollbars, the copy button in 1Password) is a scourge. Doesn't matter if you show it when the mouse gets close enough, as it's unintuitive.
Dynamic elements that cause other elements to rearrange themselves when they update (or are hidden/shown) are also a scourge. Looking at you, browser guys. Horizontal screen real estate is not what's at a premium. you don't need to hide nav buttons for any reason, on all but the tiniest of screens.
Finally, regarding flat UI design: imagine editing a spreadsheet with no gridlines drawn. That's what using flat UIs tends to feel like. You need clear boundaries to visually demonstrate where the program will accept an input for each given action. Something, something, scourge.
That is all.
Sadly, gone are the days of including an uninstaller shortcut; Windows 8 and 10 "start" systems don't really jive with it, though many softwares still do include one, and the search function will usually find it if someone searches for it. That being said, the Windows add/remove program control panel applet ("appwiz.cpl") has been around for 20+ years, so unless someone has exempted/partially exempted themselves from this avenue of uninstallation, the potential for harm seems quite low. Agreed though, uninstallation documentation seems like a no-brainer.
Konqueror is dead! Long live Konqueror!
That being said, with this sort of bloat, you'd think they'd consider tweaking the nupkg compressor/decompressor (seems to be very much non-optimized ZIP) to bring that size down a bit.
Regarding installer size, this appears to be easily blamed on Electron/node.js dependencies. The node modules themselves compress to ~54MB, and what I presume to be the electron runtime (main executable) to ~36MB.
Now as for the executable itself being ~86MB, I've got no immediate explanation beyond likely static linking of libraries. Does it represent the full electron runtime environment or something? Forgive me, I know effectively nothing about electron.
It carries with it ~200MB worth of node.js modules...
Repacking with 7-zip got it down to ~85MB. This demonstrates only that installer size doesn't mean a whole lot in and of itself.
Regarding installer size, given current (long time standing, actually) trends in software, it's probably heaps of included libraries and poorly optimized graphical assets. That and not every installer packager uses super-efficient compression. Disclaimer: all speculation on my part; perhaps i'll be arsed to look into the real reasons why, but no promises.
Vista is now adandonware; please upgrade to.. anything else. Even XP with the POS/embedded registry hacks has more remaining life.
I imagine that going up against Google in court is something like crawling out of a structure fire with an air conditioning unit fallen on your back, while lawyers and board members stand near the door, lighting their cigars on the flames and taunting you