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Creator of Opera Says Google Deliberately Undermined His New Vivaldi Web Browser (wired.co.uk)
The latest allegation against Google? Jon von Tetzchner, creator of the web browser Opera, says the search giant deliberately undermined his new browser, Vivaldi. Rowland Manthorpe, writing for Wired: In a blogpost titled, "My friends at Google: it is time to return to not being evil," von Tetzchner accuses the US firm of blocking Vivaldi's access to Google AdWords, the advertisements that run alongside search results, without warning or proper explanation. According to Von Tetzchner, the problem started in late May. Speaking at the Oslo Freedom Forum, the Icelandic programmer criticised big tech companies' attitude toward personal data, calling for a ban on location tracking on Facebook and Google. Two days later, he suddenly found Vivaldi's Google AdWords campaigns had been suspended. "Was this just a coincidence?" he writes. "Or was it deliberate, a way of sending us a message?" He concludes: "Timing spoke volumes." Von Tetzchner got in touch with Google to try and resolve the issue. The result? What he calls "a clarification masqueraded in the form of vague terms and conditions." The particular issue was the end-user license agreement (EULA), the legal contract between a software manufacturer and a user. Google wanted Vivaldi to add one to its website. So it did. But Google had further complaints. According to emails shown to WIRED, Google wanted Vivaldi to add an EULA "within the frame of every download button." The addition was small -- a link below the button directing people to "terms" -- but on the web, where every pixel matters, this was a potential competitive disadvantage. Most gallingly, Chrome, Google's own web browser, didn't display a EULA on its landing pages. Google also asked Vivaldi to add detailed information to help people uninstall it, with another link, also under the button.
and pray
Google has NEVER not been evil. They were evil from day one, but pretended not to be to lure all you gullible geeks in. It's amazing that most of you still haven't figure out how things are, considering how smart you often are in purely technological terms.
Also, it's pathetic to see the old Opera guy allowing himself to be bullied by them while trying to use their services, not to mention the fact that "Vivaldi" is just another Chromium skin. This really is a broken world where nobody wants to do anything on their own anymore. Just take the easy path and make a skin for some existing technology -- that should do it!
Just few years ago, my every comment against Google was getting modded down. I can bet there are many Google employees on Slashdot and these die hard people don't take negative comments on Google lightly.
Google has got too much power. With search monopoly, it can decide what sells and what does not. What websites user visits and what does not. What news user read and what does not. The only real competition is from Facebook and I am equally apprehensive about it.
The market share of these niche browsers has always been a rounding error, the chance of Vivaldi having any sort of market was always zero.
Call it a hunch, but I have a feeling a hosts file isn't going to help Jon von with his situation.
It seems to me if Goog is not following the EULA policies themselves, Jon can probably sue for what minimal damages they can prove. The question would be is it worth the gamble.
I really like it so far. Snappy and stays out of the way. Tab grouping and tiling are really nice. Support alternative browsers, it's good for the health of the web.
Downloading Vivaldi now.
what is hilarious is that everyone goes on about how public companies are evil warmongering soulless faces of society when in reality google never wanted to go public. they were forced to share their company with others once they reached a certain size. even the most capitalistic governments embrace socialism in some form...
Gosh, if only you'd created a browser with its own rendering engine that you then didn't sell off to a company that immediately replaced it, and then go on to "revive" the old browser by... creating another browser based on the Chrome browser too.
As a Vivaldi user, I can confirm that it's nothing more than a Chrome clone, and a pretty boring one. All the interesting Opera features haven't made it in in all the years it's existed and been promised.
Guess what? When you make a Chrome-clone, you have to do what the people who make Chrome want you to do. Shocking, isn't it?
In terms of UI and customization, Vivaldi is 100 times better than Chrome, and of course supports all the extensions and more (the one's Google doesn't like you having which improve its services more than they are capable of natively).
The only problem I could emphasize when I used Vivaldi is the page loading problem. Sometimes, clicking on a link or trying to load a webpage ends up in a hangup of a few seconds or so. Don't know if that's a problem still, but it was a BIG problem that hadn't been resolved for at least 2 months of my attempted usage. I hope they have resolved it these days.
Another thing I would love for the Vivaldi staff to do is to consider achieving what Chrome devs failed at and gave up in the very dedicated thread, while citing Chromium core as the problem: Tab Lazy Loading. Firefox has a great Session Manager that works with many tabs loading at once and never bricking or freezing any system (old or new) because it has this feature, but SessionBuddy on Chromium based browsers is malfunctioning because of the lack of this performance hack/cheat.
This company lostit's moral compass when it hired Eric Schmitt and it hasn't found it again. Eric as you know was the one who didn't recuse himself from apple's board even when he learned about the iPhone. Either he was trying to steal the iPhone or if you really beleive he wasn't and Google was already planning their own, then you have to ask why he didn't recuse himself. It's because he's morally bankrupt. it infected google and the company hasn't been the same ever since.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
So.... what you "do to google" is spam links to their search engine in all your Autistic posts.
There's lots of software around that doesn't show Google ads. Even web browsers!
You do realize that it's possible to sell software, or to get ads from other sources (or even sell advertising space yourself, heaven forfend!).
There's even something known as Free Software that has a whole ecosystem that's built up around the idea that software can be developed and distributed without requiring everyone to reach into his pocket and pull out a credit card.
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
Once upon a time, when Microsoft ruled the world, its Internet Explorer was undisputed King of browsers. But when upstart browsers started to make inroads, Microsoft baked its browser into the bowels of Windows, making it not only preinstalled, but impossible to remove. Believe it or not, Microsoft spun this borgian action as a Good Thing, making sure that the "user experience" was up to Microsoft's standards. Now, however, it seems to be Google that is swinging its hefty weight around, positioning its ever growing assimilation of the Internet as something it's doing for our own good.
calling for a ban on location tracking on Facebook and Google.
No. We merely need people to be smart enough not to give away all of their personal data to Facebook and Google .
People keep saying Google isn't a monopoly, but if it can use tactics to make the market unattainable for everyone else. is that not what it is?
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
I wish "Mr. Von T" would bring back his original Opera browser & engine putting in anything new he learned from Chrome!
* Everyone else copied HIM pretty much feature for feature & his competitors were ALWAYS SLOWER PERFORMERS than Opera was, every damn time (he is a better coder than them all imo & I am a coder myself saying that).
APK
P.S.=> Imo, original Opera (not "Chopera") is STILL the best overall featureset & performing browser under the sun @ version 12.18 64-bit... apk
Browser customization doesn't matter to very many people. Nor does GUI customization. There is a case to be made for maintaining GUI commonality across users, especially users who will need to consult references or help each other in peer support online. If your browser doesn't look like the next person's, good luck event explaining what is going wrong in a way they can understand.
Bruce Perens.
Should be very interested to hear this man's complaint. After all, they're hit Google with a record fine of 2.7 billion dollars for anti-competitive behavior. It would seem that 2.7 billion isn't enough for Google to learn its lesson. Perhaps the fine this time should be 27 billion dollars and be increased ten fold for each subsequent offense until somebody at Google gets the message.
One reason that it might not be classified as a monopoly is that WE can easily bring Google down.
I've stopped using Chrome. I use Brave exclusively and have been very happy with it.
I use DuckDuckGo and use the !G to get google results. As far as I know (and I'm willing to be corrected on this) Google doesn't receive any revenue from this DuckDuckGo search.
So, instead of saying Google it - say Duck it.
You don't have to stop using Google but if Google's market share drops from 88% to 50% and Chrome takes a huge hit (after all Brave is basically as good as Chrome) then you will have done your part in slapping Google upside the head.
Oh - and protonmail is an excellent privacy-centric email server. (although it's free version allows only 150 emails per day).
Still testing out zoho.com so I don't know how they compare to Google Docs.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Yes.
we've all got an adblock on anyway lol. fkn love vivaldi over here.
Google is doing what vendors have been doing for ages. There's only outrage because it's happening with everyone's favorite 'google' did you guys really expect something different? The only twist is that people use google to find things so there's not many equivalences out there; but vendors don't like advertising other competitors on their platform/storefront/street/location/whatever. IE used horizontal dominance to get IE where it was (you use windows, you use IE!). Google is using market dominance (Hey, be like the cool kids!). Rather than throwing tantrums, It's time to wise up on your options and stop drinking all the free kool-aid (gmail/google-drive/youtube/google-thing).
I don't read AC
Google's treatment of Vivaldi is just one more reason I uninstalled Chrome. When they start playing nice again, I may reconsider.
BraveSetup-x64.exe is 112 Megabytes. The file name does not include the version number.
From the Brave web site: "Money
"Brave makes money by taking 5% of any donations and -- after it is fully implemented -- a small cut of advertising that is placed. Brave even shares some revenue with you -- at least as much as we receive."
There are plans for Brave that involve a lot of complexity:
"BAT: Coming Soon "Opt into the Basic Attention Token platform, a blockchain-based digital advertising system giving publishers a better deal and users a share of the revenue."
So.... what you "do to google" is spam links to their search engine in all your Autistic posts.
Your parents either beat you too much or not enough.
Vivaldi browser is 40.3 Megabytes. The file name includes the version number.
Why does the Brave browser (linked above) installation file require 112 Megabytes?
Vivaldi's story doesn't include any information about how the 38 people who work for Vivaldi make money.
You really undermined it yourself by switching engines. You ceded the last unique thing of value about your product for mediocrity.
I have a software project, and had my ads taken offline for exactly the same reasons he had. We don't compete with Google in any way. This isn't about them using their position against competitors, it is that they will error on the side of posting ads, and when they review them, if the landing pages don't meet their requirements, they will take them back offline. Noting unusual about their behavior here folks. They want several things, including a clear download link, EULA and install/uninstall instructions so if someone doesn't like it, they know how to get rid of it.
Google don't need to follow the AdWords terms and conditions for their Chrome pages.
Not because they are AdWords, but because those pages have no advertising. None of the Chrome pages do. Infact, pretty much no Google pages apart from their ad platforms - YouTube, Gmail, Search - have anything remotely to do with AdWords.
I'm de-googling my computer you can too - here is how :
Use ublock origin, ublock protector and a hosts file like this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/StevenBlack/hosts/master/hosts Block ads, block adwords, block AMP, block google ad services. Demonetize Facebook, Microsoft and Google. End this tyranny!
Also on Duck Duck Go, you can search google using "!g" without giving them hits.
Also note using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for DNS servers gives Google EVERYTHING so DONT use those. I run a local DNS and blacklist those IPs.
Also, if you can, you can run PI-HOLE and use DNS for your whole house to protect and defend TRUTH. https://pi-hole.net/
See my subject: I find it fitting to do so minus their ads as I do (pats self on back using their servers to do it) & stopping their trackers etc. they foist on unsuspecting others.
APK
P.S.=> Considering they've lost what? 62++% of their revenue from those ads not being seen (via myself & other adblockers) & then seeing what they've been doing to others?? Google gets what google gets... lol! apk
I was baffled that mobile Firefox did not show full functionality on Google search pages. Turned out that google is disabling the functionality by checking the user agent. Once I changed the user agent to a generic Nexus 5, the functionality was restored.
Google's predominance is the result of the original architecture of the Internet, together with the way we provide and charge for Internet access. And Google's predominance isn't just a problem because Google is misusing it more and more, it's also a problem because it gives governments easy access for privacy invasion and censorship. (Facebook and the current DNS system are secondary problems.)
This needs to change: we need distributed, decentralized name services, P2P web sites, and distributed and crytocurrency-based advertising and business models. And given that Google is increasingly using government to maintain its predominance, we probably need to increasingly use government to fight Google. Good strategies would be to start more anti-trust complaints against Google, as well as demanding something analogous to "common carrier status" for Google's search, hosting, and advertising.
Stop with the "best viewed in Chrome" notification bullshit.
I really don't give a hoot that you've optimised youtube and other sites for Chrome. The whole point of the web is to be cross platform.
I'm surprised at your reaction. I thought the issues were somewhat obvious.
Everyone involved in computer technology has had HUGE hassles with browsers. Microsoft supplied IE version 6 that attempted to create its own language, instead of using standard HTML. Microsoft was doing what everyone calls Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, but that time the world reacted effectively to abuse.
Now Mozilla Foundation is badly managed. The latest 64-bit version of Firefox has marked ALL of the 22 add-ons I use as "Legacy". When a lot of windows and tabs are open, Firefox begins gobbling memory and CPU power, and becomes unstable. (I first reported that more than 10 years ago.)
Vivaldi employs 38 people. If the cost of employing them is an average of 50,000 U.S. dollars per year, that is $1,900,000 per year, just in salaries. What is Vivaldi doing that allows spending that amount of money???
Why does the Brave browser (linked above) installation file require 112 Megabytes, 50 or 60 more megabytes than Google Chrome or Vivaldi or Firefox? What do the people who make the Brave browser want user's computers to do that takes so much more code?
I think we have a right to know what is being run on our computers.
A serious issue: Because you disagreed or didn't understand, you engaged in a personal attack. It would have been better to just ask a question, and avoid hostility.
GOOGLE is just PUTIN spelled sideways.
The "or else" means you either disappear off the Internet, or any browser with any association with them lists you as a malware site.
Fuck Google.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Release your browser under GPL first then we'll talk about evil. For now it's one corporation against another.
You must really truly love the taste of nígger penises. Do you even have a gag reflex anymore?
Quiet in the cheap seats! How dare you stop a perfectly good /. bum fight with your flawless logic. I want to see the show.
Human Rights, Article 12: Freedom from Interference with Privacy, Family, Home and Correspondence
the real way how those spam companies track, and how some even pay out, is by tracking purchases/conversion. no conversion = it is as if it didn't exist.
anyways, you can create false clicks but they wouldn't matter to anybody.
this same thing happens naturally as well, the price of the ads being determined by the value they give for the advertisers, the ads will just be cheaper to run per click in the same proportion there are fake clicks. it doesn't solve the problem that people are stupid enough to sign up to something, install something or to buy something advertised in such a way.
the real wonder is sites that have ACTUAL content but still put on so much ads that nobody comes back again or that are impossible(really) to browse without adblock as the ads forward the page to some stupid ad in 5 secs.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
FYI you dopey cunt, slashdot shows the destination domain after the link. Go back to 4chan.
Oh look, it doesn't have the bizarre formatting so it definitely can't be APK. It's just a random AC, popping up to defend him. Perfectly plausible.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
Starting to migrate important shit out, and useless shit can stay with google that makes them no money.
Even NEO had to get back to the matrix, to fight, but not live there.
Just watch the matrix trilogy decoded.
I thought what you did to google was post random racist garbage and beat off to Alex Jones
I wish APK would stop being a retard
I guess that is like asking shit to not stink but one can hope.
Except you haven't cost them anything since the people using your link wouldn't have ad blocking (if one can call your shitware that) yet so you are giving them business
I guess we can count this as yet another case of APK proving that he is a retard for all to see
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
I like your host file system by Karmashock
(NEED MORE? Ask!)
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> It's things like the above quotes that BEAT THE HELL out of "your kind" - UNIDENTIFIABLE do-nothing "ne'er-do-wells"... apk
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
I like your host file system by Karmashock
(NEED MORE? Ask!)
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> Now, let's see an UNIDENTIFIABLE do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" like YOU do BETTER, ok? apk
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
I like your host file system by Karmashock
(NEED MORE? Ask!)
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> Let's see an UNIDENTIFIABLE no balls do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" like YOU do better, ok? apk
Serious question. If what you're getting is their AdWords, why should they care what or how you're set up wrt landing pages, etc? It doesn't impact their ad business. Which is to serve up your advertisements to people they've identified as potential buyers and/or interested parties. Those extra requirements are well outside any immediate considerations when it comes to serving up advertisements to the correct audience. And while Google can have requirements they want to be part of their ad program, none of those seem either germane or necessary to the basics of advertisement. You know, the service they're supposedly offering with AdWords.
Everyone knows APK loves sucking moose dick
You are right that he does no longer have a gag reflex from taking so much of it though
See subject: Boycott their ads via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-7 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads/script/malware rob speed/security/privacy/bandwidth.
Hosts add speed (via hardcodes/adblocks), security (vs. bad sites/malware/poisoned dns), reliability (vs. dns down), & anonymity (vs. dns requestlogs/trackers).
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity & faster vs. addons/routers/remote dns!
Avoids DNSChangers in routers/IP settings & dns redirect (99.999% of ISP DNS != patched vs. it) + DNS requestlog tracking & lighten DNS load & resolve faster from local system RAM!
* Via what u NATIVELY have in the FASTER kernelmode IP stack!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
Nope, APK only beats off to Alex Jones and to moose dick
He doesn't beat anything else, especially his critics that are legion who in turn beat him daily
APK is like a little monkey who goes and sits in corner, beats off, then flings shit everywhere
See subject: THIS (you can't) APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-7 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/
Ads/script/malware rob speed/security/privacy/bandwidth.
Hosts add speed (via hardcodes/adblocks), security (vs. bad sites/malware/poisoned dns), reliability (vs. dns down), & anonymity (vs. dns requestlogs/trackers).
Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity & faster vs. addons/routers/remote dns!
Avoids DNSChangers in routers/IP settings & dns redirect (99.999% of ISP DNS != patched vs. it) + DNS requestlog tracking & lighten DNS load & resolve faster from local system RAM!
* Via what u NATIVELY have in the FASTER kernelmode IP stack!
APK
P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/
See subject & a PRIME EXAMPLE of your typical "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. this fair challenge (1 of 4) https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11072697&cid=55140513/
* LMAO - "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!...
(... Which you TRIED to "downmod hide" via your many sockpuppet alternate accounts on /. - shall I post the others so everyone can see how "great" arstechnica is (laughing stocks of the internet I've utterly easily DESTROYED before many times))?
APK
P.S.=> Poor little arseholetechnica underachievers - MOST of arstechnica is just that - do nothing "ne'er-do-well" gasbag blowhard hotair bullshitters, lol - lots of 'talk', no substance... like you! apk
Vivaldi is a great browser. Fast, and with innovative features. What I think is missing is functionality that would recreate "Tab Groups" from Firefox.
My only gripe with Vivaldi is that it uses WebKit, contributing to making the Web a monoculture. Apart from that it is a great piece of software. And works on Linux, too!
That question is "Where did the monopolistic swine go after they left Microsoft?" Because, let's face it, Microsoft is a creampuff compared to their good old days. The consent decree certainly seemed to affect their market behavior, and that meant there were a lot of hyper-competitive cheating dirtbags who couldn't work to their full potential at ol' MS.
The question has been answered. "Google hired them."
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
If you had ever used 4chan you would know that 4chan doesn't allow you to insert tags into posts-- you can only paste the full URL. Furthermore, 4chan isn't the kind of place that people care if they click on links to goatse or not. To go further still, goatse is rather passe, lame, or quaint compared to what one would encounter at 4chan.
Poor butthurt retarded APK is mad that he is getting spanked harder than an ugly redheaded step-child. He should be use to it by now given that he gets spanked hard every time he posts. Apparently he likes proving to the world he is a retard by making all sorts of retarded claims and furiously pounding out poorly formatted incoherent text.
I'm sure he will post a response to this as he can't stand that someone mocked him but as usual his next post will further show everyone just how much of a retard he is. That post will be some tired post he has made 1000 time before. What is some what surprising is that APK hasn't gone on one of his little racist rants given that google was mentioned. Maybe he is worried that if he does Facebook will pass his location on to George Soros since he seems to believe that Soros has it in for him.
Don't worry APK I'm sure some day your daddy will tell you you've made him proud but it will only be because you managed to not choke on your own tongue and not because you actually accomplished anything worth while.
Your ads are dangerous. Why you may ask? Because you're worse than a regular advertising company! You keep a dossier on people, tracking all their posts, trying to find out their Internet history and keep records, you've been known since the 90s on the Internet as someone who contacts people's ISPs if you have sufficient details, you contact their web hosting providers, people's companies where they work to make a scene because they dared to disagree with you on the Internet.
You ironically are the antithesis of safety online, you harass, provoke, stalk and it often starts with one of your advertisements. You have people tell you to go away and leave them alone, but you continue to pursue them, make legal threats etc. until you are satisfied. You are one of he few advertisers out there that I can actually point at and show that you are using information gathered against other people!
In summary, the most dangerous advertisements people need to be weary of is yours, APK. Your adblocking solution does nothing to stop them either.
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
I like your host file system by Karmashock
(NEED MORE? Ask!)
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> China imitated me http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ ... apk
Don't worry, that was just APK proving to the world how much of a retard he is. Hang around here for a few weeks and you will eventually see all of his posts and watch him got into spastic rages when ever he is called out for being a retard. Some of us just like to mock him for his disabilities even though we know we shouldn't make fun of the handicapped but will make an exception for APK. One can't have a rational conversation with APK even though many have tried in the past. His ability to construct a sentence let alone a complete argument if very limited. Even if you do decipher what he was trying to communicate you will discover that he is either changing the subject, moving the goal posts, or trying to deflect any criticism. Because of this it is best to just mock him and see if you can enrage him more. However you can get a good idea of what words Alex Jones used a bunch on his show recently as APK will include them in most of his posts as well.
Technically it should be illegal as their own products don't have the same requirements. but the deck is stacked. Google actually makes it a bit inconvenient to remove their stuff. And the "update server" was nuts. Nobody needs an update server. With Firefox you can remove the update service but not with Google, at least not without remove other google software packages. Consequently I don't use Google in MS Windows. "This smells funny, and I'm not eating".
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
do not use google products, please always look for an alernative... please!!!
As always APK can't address specific points of criticism so he goes and changes the subject and then makes false claims that China imitated him when in reality the Chinese have never heard of him, his software, or his advertisements. Lying stalking APK needs to just go away and take his silly software with him.
Maritz you're posting anonymously unidentifiably failing miserably against me here https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11072697&cid=55140513/ with your off topic arseholetechnica illogic logic ad hominem attacks
Maritz the great critic with nothing he ever did that others like, use and recommend as I clearly have shown here https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11072697&cid=55141005/
Lastly: I've been using "ne'er-do-wells" on "your kind" on slashdot for decades now!
Far longer than Mr. Jones ever did recently. It fits "your kind" perfectly.
Perhaps Mr. Jones reads my material and likes it. He should. Like Mr. Jones, I use provable concrete fact you can't overcome!
APK
P.S.=> Great minds think alike. I like his material. He's a GOOD man... apk
Apk, your mom just called, she said to fuck off with your spam. Go write a program that blocks apk spam ads. Hosts blocking makes sense for people like you with no friends, family, or extra computers. For every one else, using something like pi-hole is a much better solution with stats and white listing. No need to fuck around with many separate hosts files. Why even use your app? Why not use one of the half dozen open source with white listing support that doesn't require installation? Face it, hosts file has its benefits, but you're misrepresenting the benefits like a piece of shit con man.
Poor job trying to "impersonate" me!
* You're a serious joke...
APK
P.S.=> No joke... apk
Poor butthurt retarded APK is mad that he is getting spanked harder than an ugly redheaded step-child. He should be use to it by now given that he gets spanked hard every time he posts. Apparently he likes proving to the world he is a retard by making all sorts of retarded claims and furiously pounding out poorly formatted incoherent text.
I'm sure he will post a response to this as he can't stand that someone mocked him but as usual his next post will further show everyone just how much of a retard he is. That post will be some tired post he has made 1000 time before. What is some what surprising is that APK hasn't gone on one of his little racist rants given that google was mentioned. Maybe he is worried that if he does Facebook will pass his location on to George Soros since he seems to believe that Soros has it in for him.
Don't worry APK I'm sure some day your daddy will tell you you've made him proud but it will only be because you managed to not choke on your own tongue and not because you actually accomplished anything worth while.
See subject: I shutdown YOUR attacks on myself like you're attempting now by shutting your puny tactics down. It's that simple.
* It's what "your kind" in UNIDENTIFIABLE "ne'er-do-well" do-nothings do - & thank God you're so DUMB that you're easy to outsmart & outthink...
(Who ARE you TRYING to fool other than yourself you transparent little douchebag?)
APK
P.S.=> How many times have I outright DUSTED you on technical topics? Obviously tons. Those are the "dossiers" you claim I keep - I'd call them trophies I LAUGH @ YOU WITH & they shut you DOWN easily (hence your UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS attacks on myself constantly you butthurt little loser, lol - it's SO obvious)... apk
Like clockwork APK proves himself a retard.
Like a retard APK still hasn't addressed specific points brought up but in other threads has proven that what the poster claimed is true. Instead he post something that has nothing to do with the original post because he is a retard. To further prove he is retarded APK posted as AC unsigned to make it seem like someone supports him. Then when someone mocks him APK is too retarded to figure out what is going on.
You haven't shutdown anyone ever. You don't even deny the claims made.You can't address any points the GP made and the most egregious ones you not only embrace you show off elsewhere. I saw your post of quotes and none of them address the GP's points but I guess you want to be viewed as the retard you are. I guess it is time to spank the retard APK some more by pointing out mentally deficient you are. Maybe you should respond using more bolded text, capitalization, and random punctuation because then maybe someone might take your seriously, likely not but it is worth a try. While I know I will never shut you down, as you will keep posting, at least I can continue to mock you for being and proving to everyone that you are in fact a retard.
Not Maritz but APK is too retarded to figure it out. Don't worry APK you can believe that there are only a few people who mock you, point out your stupidity, and general insanity but we are legion. Although I am the only person to call you are retard and point it out every chance I get. Even the people you quote mock you and point out your many flaws so why bother rehashing the same tired quotes day in and day out. I know, it is because you are a retard and learned how to debate at Retard State University where you also happened to play a sport no one fucking cares about. Like Jones your facts are easily proven wrong or insufficient but you have such a feeble mind that you can't comprehend them. You also appear to be suffering from paranoia like Jones but yours is far far worse. It is too bad that you are such a retard as a slab of concrete can come up with better arguments than you can.