But if we extend that line of reasoning, why not prosecute a library for copyright infringement? After all, they are willfully leaving all those books lying around where any number of Joes could come in and photocopy them.
Good question. Long, tough answer.
Libraries have a HUGE subset of laws with their own Fair Use policies. It's completely different than what you're used to expecting for private individuals. And then there's clauses for archiving.
I remember looking into it years ago to see if I could get Library status for a business idea that ripped people's own CD's into mp3 (for their own use). Kind of a drop off CD's, come back in an hour. Conclusion: dead end.
Fair use was deliberately written to be vague so that each case can be analyzed. There are no absolutes. But... with enough money, I suppose there are no absolutes in law at all.
I'd also like to point out to your parent that Fair use was created during the Analog days. The NET ACT and DMCA are both additions that have been made to ruin Fair use for digital copies.
For instance, the NET ACT could be invoked against you when you "give a copy to a friend" even when no money is exchanged. Why? Because they redefined what "monetary gain" stands for. Expecting something back in return (like trading) now falls under monetary gain.
Copyright infringement involves the illegal distribution of a copyright you do not own (or don't have permission from copyright holder).
The media (including this article) are always lazy when they say "FBI Raids so-and-so who were downloading illegal mp3s".
This is a misnomer, and digging deeper, ALL the lawsuits, settlements, fines, jail time involve the illegal distribution of said mp3's. Not the downloading of.
Although the USA does not have such a distinct admission that download is "OK" (like Canada) every lawsuit so far has dealt with distribution. The next part I can only guess: But I think that is because they don't want to fight that in court just yet (and maybe lose).
...Personally I think it's great that they recognize talented individuals and reward them well."
Are you kidding? Am I the only one that sees this as buying out the competition? Let's see, some guy successfully beat us at selling a competitive O/S. Let's hire him so that never happens again. And some guy is making the world better by furthering a standard. Let's hire him so that our C++ becomes the only stardard the world must follow.
Yep, I tried it out. I think it would have been more fun if I was 14, but I was bored and willing to try something new.
HOwever, I quit once they came out with some announcement about shutting down, and that there was just enough time to finish the whole thing if you kept playing.
My only disappointment with the game was how you'd have to wait a whole day for new stuff. Sometimes I had time to do more. Other days I was too busy to do everything (or too bored to read all the clippings). I also had a difficult time suspending reality and pretending it was real. It's no fun when you KNOW the phone calls are coming...
They're out on bail. And I'm glad someone brought up the point that there can be jail time for moving violations. I hate "Analagies Gone Wrong".
Except for "setting an example" which might happen, I doubt camming will actually get someone jail time for first offenses. Just like most moving violations won't.
I'm not a prison expert, so I would guess if there was jail time, it could be county for anything less than a month, and state penitentiary for anything more (not pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison, since this is a California state law)
Actually, I'd compare these guys camming as "Mules" in the drug trade. Something like 100-300 dollars for selling the copy seems to be as crappy as being a mule to me.
However, those buying these copies are making tons of money by making master DVD's and selling them.
Well to be fair, the maximum fines would and jail time would probably only be used in conjunction of proof of intent to sell, or past violations of said law.
These are only misdemeanors, and many misdemeanors carry maximum sentnece of jail time that are hardly every handed down.
As far as warning people that night vision is being used in their OWN building. Um, why? I guess we don't see eye to eye there.
Amazing we can get the Hubble to take pictures of distant galaxies, but a picture of a planet in our Solar System comes out as crappy as my channel 57.
I don't think you're a sick fuck. If so, then I am one too.
For me, it's just to expand my experiences. It's not like I have a collection of suicide videos. But when this makes national news, I'd like to say to myself... yea, I saw that, and know what the fuss is about.
I don't have a collection of pictures of women having sex with a horse, but I have looked. And cows, ponies, and dogs. Lots of dogs.
We've all seen the goatse.x picture. And tubgirl.
I don't visit stileproject site every day, but 1 or 2 times a year, I will check the place out. Because of that, I know what a half-eaten man inside an alligator looks like. sigh.
I'd have to say that the most disturbing scene I've ever seen from the internet was a video of a man being stoned to death. "The Passion" had nothing on this. I felt like I had reached the bottom gutter of the human soul, and don't feel like coming back. I'm sure this suicide video pales in comparison.
Then there's concerns about to eat or drink before or after you run, especially making sure you don't drown your brain in water by drinking too much liquid without the necessary electrolytes.
LOL. What are you, a Gatorade commercial? People make their own electrolytes, and if you're a new runner, I doubt you're going to be able to run 3 to 4 hours at a time. Which is the average duration of exertion needed to run the risk of hyponatremia. Anything less than that and you only need a banana and salt.
What, you think people only started running after Gatorade was created?
Your reasons sound valid, but my so-called conspiracy is the reason behind your reasons.
The technology has been out for longer than you think, but there is no huge market push for the hardware because there is not enough content to build a marketplace on.
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Good question. Long, tough answer.
Libraries have a HUGE subset of laws with their own Fair Use policies. It's completely different than what you're used to expecting for private individuals. And then there's clauses for archiving.
I remember looking into it years ago to see if I could get Library status for a business idea that ripped people's own CD's into mp3 (for their own use). Kind of a drop off CD's, come back in an hour. Conclusion: dead end.
Fair use was deliberately written to be vague so that each case can be analyzed. There are no absolutes. But... with enough money, I suppose there are no absolutes in law at all.
I'd also like to point out to your parent that Fair use was created during the Analog days. The NET ACT and DMCA are both additions that have been made to ruin Fair use for digital copies.
For instance, the NET ACT could be invoked against you when you "give a copy to a friend" even when no money is exchanged. Why? Because they redefined what "monetary gain" stands for. Expecting something back in return (like trading) now falls under monetary gain.
The media (including this article) are always lazy when they say "FBI Raids so-and-so who were downloading illegal mp3s".
This is a misnomer, and digging deeper, ALL the lawsuits, settlements, fines, jail time involve the illegal distribution of said mp3's. Not the downloading of.
Although the USA does not have such a distinct admission that download is "OK" (like Canada) every lawsuit so far has dealt with distribution. The next part I can only guess: But I think that is because they don't want to fight that in court just yet (and maybe lose).
You're all set now for Barter Town.
Your toilet just called and wants its "NO SHIT!" back.
My comment was against the submitter's ephasis that Microsoft is rewarding these people for the sake of rewarding them.
No, I lauded Borland for already bringing the development community a solid (and partially free) tool for use under Windows.
Are you kidding?
Am I the only one that sees this as buying out the competition? Let's see, some guy successfully beat us at selling a competitive O/S. Let's hire him so that never happens again. And some guy is making the world better by furthering a standard. Let's hire him so that our C++ becomes the only stardard the world must follow.
Virtual hacking is boring.
HOwever, I quit once they came out with some announcement about shutting down, and that there was just enough time to finish the whole thing if you kept playing.
My only disappointment with the game was how you'd have to wait a whole day for new stuff. Sometimes I had time to do more. Other days I was too busy to do everything (or too bored to read all the clippings). I also had a difficult time suspending reality and pretending it was real. It's no fun when you KNOW the phone calls are coming...
Since when is 51% paper considered paper? I guess we've been using paper DVD-R's for a long time now.....if you count the label on the spindle.
Anyone know wha the other 49% is?
I think a death is required for any Manslaughter!
You're probably thinking of Reckless Endangerment, Criminal Negligence, or anything that is !Vehicular Manslaughter.
Except for "setting an example" which might happen, I doubt camming will actually get someone jail time for first offenses. Just like most moving violations won't.
I'm not a prison expert, so I would guess if there was jail time, it could be county for anything less than a month, and state penitentiary for anything more (not pound-me-in-the-ass federal prison, since this is a California state law)
However, those buying these copies are making tons of money by making master DVD's and selling them.
These are only misdemeanors, and many misdemeanors carry maximum sentnece of jail time that are hardly every handed down.
As far as warning people that night vision is being used in their OWN building. Um, why? I guess we don't see eye to eye there.
"Objects may be closer than they appear in mirror?"
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Amazing we can get the Hubble to take pictures of distant galaxies, but a picture of a planet in our Solar System comes out as crappy as my channel 57.
My favorite part of all this is that he now has new material to make fun of them with.
I_dont_want_to_change_them_all_to_them.
Tell that to Bo Diddley's family.
The FBI calculated the maximum cost of using Lexus Nexus to be $300k. An unlimited 3 month account COULD HAVE BEEN purchased by Mr. Lamo for $1500.
For me, it's just to expand my experiences. It's not like I have a collection of suicide videos. But when this makes national news, I'd like to say to myself... yea, I saw that, and know what the fuss is about.
I don't have a collection of pictures of women having sex with a horse, but I have looked. And cows, ponies, and dogs. Lots of dogs.
We've all seen the goatse.x picture. And tubgirl.
I don't visit stileproject site every day, but 1 or 2 times a year, I will check the place out. Because of that, I know what a half-eaten man inside an alligator looks like. sigh.
I'd have to say that the most disturbing scene I've ever seen from the internet was a video of a man being stoned to death. "The Passion" had nothing on this. I felt like I had reached the bottom gutter of the human soul, and don't feel like coming back. I'm sure this suicide video pales in comparison.
LOL. What are you, a Gatorade commercial? People make their own electrolytes, and if you're a new runner, I doubt you're going to be able to run 3 to 4 hours at a time. Which is the average duration of exertion needed to run the risk of hyponatremia. Anything less than that and you only need a banana and salt.
What, you think people only started running after Gatorade was created?
Your reasons sound valid, but my so-called conspiracy is the reason behind your reasons. The technology has been out for longer than you think, but there is no huge market push for the hardware because there is not enough content to build a marketplace on.