They shot Beria for sex crimes. They tried to outst Clinton for sex crimes. And the quickest way to shut down a website is to tell the Feds somebody linked up some kiddie porn to it. We seeing a pattern here?
It's easy to accuse somebody of something, but dammit, how about some proof once in awhile? How about some good old fashioned American due process for a change, instead of the more modern American shithammer justice?
Moving your servers overseas is only viable if the government can't block them from the DNS servers here in the US. They don't have to go overseas to do this, they can just pull the plug and your servers go dark.
Agreed, it's an intolerable situation, but you can't sue the US government until and unless it gives you permission. You can lose an awful lot of business waiting for that to happen.
Oh, that takes far too long for the MAFIAA's tastes. "Better that one thousand innocent persons suffer economic ruin to enrich us than that one guilty person escape" should be their new motto.
If such a revolution were to happen, I highly doubt the perpetrators are going to wait to build a body of evidence against you before they stick you in the deepest dungeon they can find.
Only if you're high profile enough that a show trial would be worth the new People's Committee's time. The 'running dog lackeys' would probably just be stood against the wall and shot out of hand. Quicker, cheaper, and you don't have to assign guards to them. Plus, if you corral some locals to witness it, word of mouth travels fast: 'Don't fuck with the People's Committee!!'
They can identify that two pages both came from the same printer. Which includes sneaking into your house when you're not around and printing a test page. Or not sneaking in, if they already suspect you enough.
I really really really would like to see someone try that and get out in one piece here not a hope in hell that would be real fun to watch An Englishman's home is his castle and i Enforce that to the Hilt and i do mean very seriously Enforce it
Seems to me I've heard something or other saying that it's illegal to have most kinds of guns at home, and have to register shotguns and keep them at a shooting club or something? And isn't there a restriction on blade lengths of edged weaponry? What you gonna do, sicc your wife on them?
No, but any corporation stupid enough to buy them would be. In a buyout, the SCO shareholders would be paid off and out of it to go enjoy the sunshine. Why let them off the hook so easily?
Just about everybody will slip up sooner or later. The incidence of identity theft in medical debt is rather small. Most people want their real information in their charts, it can be a lifesaver.
When the phone company tells me the number has been listed to the debtor for 8 months and the guy who answers the phone tells me he's had the number for a couple of years and has no clue who you're looking for, I tend to believe the phone company. And yeah, the phone company will tell you how long somebody's had that number, you just have to ask. You'd be surprised at how many times I've gotten somebody's phone number from the online whitepages. And how many times the 'wrong number' was somebody inputting the digits wrong on the template on the computer. Easily rectified with a quick scan of whitepages.com.
Skip tracing is an art form. After awhile, you look at what you have on the guy and get a 'feel' for them, then you can find them.
You bring up several valid points. #7 is interesting, in that when the phone company tells me the phone is listed to the debtor and the debtor claims it's not, I tend to believe the phone company, if it's a hardline. If it's a cell phone, I take out the number & do some skip tracing to find their hardline number.
#2 is supposed to come into play when they send a written notice to be contacted only by mail and/or attorney. They tell me to stop calling, I inform them of this and give them the address to mail in the request, if it's a home phone. If it's a work phone, I note it on the account 'NWC' ('No Work Calls') and take out the work phone number. The only time I'll ever call that number again is on a different debtor or if I'm verifying employment persuant to initiating legal action.
#6 is just plain wrong if you're calling about a doctor bill, unless the debtor gives you permission to talk with them.
However, there exists a special class of debtor that purposefully creates debts to collect fines from collections agencies via the consumer protection statutes in their areas. These people could not stay in that business if the violation of the statutes were not endemic and profuse.
I've had problems with this myself. There were a few websites around telling people how they could 'legally' screw over a debt collector by such tactics as, predating a letter by a month or more requesting we validate the debt, following with a letter a couple days later, timed to arrive before any reply could be made, demanding we cease, desist, and purge the debt because we did not validate the debt within the 30 day period mentioned in the law. I sent him a copy of the statute stating the 30 days starts the day the letter is postmarked per Arizona law (I was working in Arizona at the time), along with a photostatic copy of the envelope plainly showing the postmark of his letter, along with a copy of the bill and the signed release, along with a cover letter explaining what everything was and demanding payment. 30 days later, we submitted the debt for legal action.
As I said previously in the post you're replying to, we get a copy of the signed release authorising treatment and alerting the patient that they are liable to get it paid. That piece of paper validates the debt. Every doctor's office and hospital in the US uses these releases. They're no secret. Try reading one next time you go to the doctor's.
I've never had a problem validating a debt ever. Before I take a job at a collection agency, the first question I ask is, 'Do you get copies of the original bill with the new business coming in?' If they say no, I go somewhere else where they do get the 'paperwork' for the debt. Yes, the law says you can dispute a debt, no problem, and a copy of the original bill is considered proof that the debt is owed. With a doctor bill, it's considered an itemised bill with the billing codes (collectors aren't supposed to know what the procedures done were, HIPPA law you know) along with a copy of your signed release for treatment is validation of the debt.
I don't 'do' credit card debt. Bad checks & medical debt, not credit card. Most credit card debt is 'old' debt, way past the statutory limit for pursuing a lawsuit to collect it. I don't work those ever. Too much hassle.
I do collections for a living. You'd be surprised at how many people start screaming how they're gonna sue me because they're on the Do Not Call list. News flash, kids. Collection calls are NOT covered by the national DNC list.
Yup, sounds like every kid I've known in my life, since the time I was a kid, way the hell back in the 50's That's pre-MTv & pre-iPod to you kids. Medicating kids is just a way to fit them into a cookie-cutter consumer pidgeon hole so they'll grow up to be more sheeple. This tred keeps on, the only free-thinkers will be the home-schooled.
Don't tell the Bible thumpers, but this seems to be a serious case of evolution in action. Wipe out the ones stupid enough to get their drugs on the street while rewarding the ones who get it prescribed through their schools.
Wanna know why there's a 'drug problem'? Watch network or basic cable tv sometime. There are tons of drug adverts, each claiming 'you take this pill, you'll instantly be better, so call your doctor NOW!' What we need to do is, get away from the 'better living through chemistry' mentality we're being forcefed.
If the stock price doesn't go up, or the earnings don't go up, neither does the dividend check. Post enough short dividend checks, and the stockholders boot out the current board of directors in favor of somebody who WILL get that dividend check back up where it belongs.
Like that ever stopped the MAFIAA before. Get accused of downloading any American 'intellectual property' anywhere on the planet and expect to get put on a 'deport to the US please' list forwarded to your local national government.
I'm thinkin mebbe we oughta move offplanet, make it more expensive to come after us...
Dingdingding. Got it in one, mushroom. Add to that, taxpayer money to make up the difference between what they got and what they claim they should be getting, and you got yourelf a law.
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This is the United States. SPEAK SPANISH already, goddamit!!
Sex crime, eh? How convenient for them.
They shot Beria for sex crimes. They tried to outst Clinton for sex crimes. And the quickest way to shut down a website is to tell the Feds somebody linked up some kiddie porn to it. We seeing a pattern here?
It's easy to accuse somebody of something, but dammit, how about some proof once in awhile? How about some good old fashioned American due process for a change, instead of the more modern American shithammer justice?
Sounds like we got our money's worth when we invested in Homeland (In)Security, didn't we?
Moving your servers overseas is only viable if the government can't block them from the DNS servers here in the US. They don't have to go overseas to do this, they can just pull the plug and your servers go dark.
Agreed, it's an intolerable situation, but you can't sue the US government until and unless it gives you permission. You can lose an awful lot of business waiting for that to happen.
FTFY
Only if you're high profile enough that a show trial would be worth the new People's Committee's time. The 'running dog lackeys' would probably just be stood against the wall and shot out of hand. Quicker, cheaper, and you don't have to assign guards to them. Plus, if you corral some locals to witness it, word of mouth travels fast: 'Don't fuck with the People's Committee!!'
Seems to me I've heard something or other saying that it's illegal to have most kinds of guns at home, and have to register shotguns and keep them at a shooting club or something? And isn't there a restriction on blade lengths of edged weaponry? What you gonna do, sicc your wife on them?
No, but any corporation stupid enough to buy them would be. In a buyout, the SCO shareholders would be paid off and out of it to go enjoy the sunshine. Why let them off the hook so easily?
Make them dig their own graves AND pay for their own bullets.
Oh, and the hourly rate of the executioners. Nothing like adding a little bit of insult to injury.
Yeah, this would make a typical Syfy Channel movie, alright: "The Zombies of SCO vs Plan 9 From Outer Space".
Mebbe I oughta do a treatment, find an agent, and pitch it to them...
So Ice Cream Sundae falls on a Tuesdae this year?
Great book, btw...
Lightspeed lag to the Moon is only 3 seconds. You must be thinking of digging a basement on Mars.
Just about everybody will slip up sooner or later. The incidence of identity theft in medical debt is rather small. Most people want their real information in their charts, it can be a lifesaver.
When the phone company tells me the number has been listed to the debtor for 8 months and the guy who answers the phone tells me he's had the number for a couple of years and has no clue who you're looking for, I tend to believe the phone company. And yeah, the phone company will tell you how long somebody's had that number, you just have to ask. You'd be surprised at how many times I've gotten somebody's phone number from the online whitepages. And how many times the 'wrong number' was somebody inputting the digits wrong on the template on the computer. Easily rectified with a quick scan of whitepages.com.
Skip tracing is an art form. After awhile, you look at what you have on the guy and get a 'feel' for them, then you can find them.
#2 is supposed to come into play when they send a written notice to be contacted only by mail and/or attorney. They tell me to stop calling, I inform them of this and give them the address to mail in the request, if it's a home phone. If it's a work phone, I note it on the account 'NWC' ('No Work Calls') and take out the work phone number. The only time I'll ever call that number again is on a different debtor or if I'm verifying employment persuant to initiating legal action.
#6 is just plain wrong if you're calling about a doctor bill, unless the debtor gives you permission to talk with them.
I've had problems with this myself. There were a few websites around telling people how they could 'legally' screw over a debt collector by such tactics as, predating a letter by a month or more requesting we validate the debt, following with a letter a couple days later, timed to arrive before any reply could be made, demanding we cease, desist, and purge the debt because we did not validate the debt within the 30 day period mentioned in the law. I sent him a copy of the statute stating the 30 days starts the day the letter is postmarked per Arizona law (I was working in Arizona at the time), along with a photostatic copy of the envelope plainly showing the postmark of his letter, along with a copy of the bill and the signed release, along with a cover letter explaining what everything was and demanding payment. 30 days later, we submitted the debt for legal action.
As I said previously in the post you're replying to, we get a copy of the signed release authorising treatment and alerting the patient that they are liable to get it paid. That piece of paper validates the debt. Every doctor's office and hospital in the US uses these releases. They're no secret. Try reading one next time you go to the doctor's.
I've never had a problem validating a debt ever. Before I take a job at a collection agency, the first question I ask is, 'Do you get copies of the original bill with the new business coming in?' If they say no, I go somewhere else where they do get the 'paperwork' for the debt. Yes, the law says you can dispute a debt, no problem, and a copy of the original bill is considered proof that the debt is owed. With a doctor bill, it's considered an itemised bill with the billing codes (collectors aren't supposed to know what the procedures done were, HIPPA law you know) along with a copy of your signed release for treatment is validation of the debt.
I don't 'do' credit card debt. Bad checks & medical debt, not credit card. Most credit card debt is 'old' debt, way past the statutory limit for pursuing a lawsuit to collect it. I don't work those ever. Too much hassle.
I do collections for a living. You'd be surprised at how many people start screaming how they're gonna sue me because they're on the Do Not Call list. News flash, kids. Collection calls are NOT covered by the national DNC list.
Yup, sounds like every kid I've known in my life, since the time I was a kid, way the hell back in the 50's That's pre-MTv & pre-iPod to you kids. Medicating kids is just a way to fit them into a cookie-cutter consumer pidgeon hole so they'll grow up to be more sheeple. This tred keeps on, the only free-thinkers will be the home-schooled.
How long til they outlaw home schooling?
Don't tell the Bible thumpers, but this seems to be a serious case of evolution in action. Wipe out the ones stupid enough to get their drugs on the street while rewarding the ones who get it prescribed through their schools.
Wanna know why there's a 'drug problem'? Watch network or basic cable tv sometime. There are tons of drug adverts, each claiming 'you take this pill, you'll instantly be better, so call your doctor NOW!' What we need to do is, get away from the 'better living through chemistry' mentality we're being forcefed.
You rilly gotta stop sharing all that music, guy. Mebbe then no-knock warrants and militarised police will become a thing of the past.
If the stock price doesn't go up, or the earnings don't go up, neither does the dividend check. Post enough short dividend checks, and the stockholders boot out the current board of directors in favor of somebody who WILL get that dividend check back up where it belongs.
Best time to kick them. They can't afford a lawyer to defend themselves.
Burgers, fries, and rap music.
That's about it.
Like that ever stopped the MAFIAA before. Get accused of downloading any American 'intellectual property' anywhere on the planet and expect to get put on a 'deport to the US please' list forwarded to your local national government.
I'm thinkin mebbe we oughta move offplanet, make it more expensive to come after us...
Dingdingding. Got it in one, mushroom. Add to that, taxpayer money to make up the difference between what they got and what they claim they should be getting, and you got yourelf a law.