No, its software. And as the poster above suggests, its licensed to one user (who runs the software - that can show the report to anyone they want) and three machines, which is more than you'd get with most software.
Besides, if it was a hosted service, what's wrong with charging more money to monitor more machines?
All the IP addressing, routing, DNS tasks can be accomplished with the netsh command that's been around for the last four years.
net and echo and telnet have been around for longer.
So your complaint comes down to: Windows lacking a command line packet capturing tool. As a Linux user I personally prefer to be able to drill down into the contents of the packets, and see lots on screen, which I can do better with a GUI packet capturing tool like Ethereal or the one Windows comes with (if you want one, make like Linux and install ethereal).
The RPM database supports transactions, so it becoming corrupt is quite rare. The thing you're probably thinking of was the Red hat 8 RPM freeze issue. That doesn't take your system down. It generates some temporary files you can delete. Oh yeah, and its been fixed.
or when RedHat inadvertantly puts the wrong information on glibc and everyone upgrades and is left with a machine that you can only reinstall the OS on (the shortest path).
Red Hat use newer glibcs before other distros (with good reason to). These can occasionally break binary compatiility, but since everyone will be moving to that version soon, newer versions of software (say Java, which had a problem with NTPL in newer glibcs) will get updated in a short time frame.
RedHat anounced the end of their desktop products as we'd all come to know them
Red Hat never did that. They've always had a desktop product - after Red Hat 9, there was EL3 Workstation (if you paid for support before, you can continue now) and Fedora Core 1 (if you prefer to support things yourself, that's fine too).
1. Mandrake, Suse, etc also suffer from this. Not just Fedora. Slashdot's beloved Debian would too if it's installer used 2.6, but it doesn't.
2. It won't screw up your partition table, it'll write it out on a different format. Big difference. No unrecoverable data loss. If you don't tell the installer your disk geometry, then boot Linux and change the format of your partition table.
But for the last time, its can affect anyone who partitions whilst using Linux kernel 2.6, not just Fedora, despite the fact its trendy to hate / misspell Red Hat around here.
I think we pretty much agree. Lackey doesn't necessarily mean we were forced to become the USs bitch. I actually agree with you - us (or our government as you'd put it) decided we'd become that.
The government most Americans elected are dangerous fuckwits.
The government most Australians elected are dangerous fuckwits.
Then quote me someone - certainly the administration avoids mentioining it anymore - ot makes them look dumb.
Er, then why didn't you do anything in Saudi Arabia? The iraq thing is pretty simple. Your leaders wanted to invade Iraq, Sept 11 happened, the people got duped into thinking invading Iraq would help. A giant power vacuuum was created which the US, being a foreign entitity, can't hope to fill. So of course fundamentalist Islam is flourishing.
Nobody except you, right or left, still bothers to hint Iraq and Al Qaeda were in bed together, much less say it.
Was Iraq has to do with terrorism is this: by attacking Iraq, and ignoring the Geneva convention the world over, the US pushed a lot of moderate Islamists against them, creating more terrorists. Which is fair enough, most Americans would probably feel the same way if another country treated them that way.
I live in Australia. We're apparently a US ally (more like a lackey), but even the most conservative (therefore pro-US) newspapers here reported the Iraqi torture as just that. The Australian, the nationwise conservative newspapaer in a country of 18 million that's one of your biggest allies, used the word torture to describe naked prisoners being badly beaten or having chemical light fluid poured through their anuses.
Which is why I find it amusing that on Nightly Business Report (a US financial news and current program that's on just before our own news) you're using the words 'suspected mistreatment' to describe something that's documented and not denied by anyone (the only issue seems to be whether the Geneva convention was officially supposed to be ignored).
So yeah, look in your own backyard before judging China. Since Sep 11, you're like a wounded pitbull attacking everything and anyone without thought. What on Earth does Iraq have to do with terrorism anyway?
(And yes, Australia has a pretty poor HR record in a lot of ways too - but I'm not denying that)...
There's dhclient and iwconfig, but of course I meant the files under/etc. You knew that. The thing you're going to modify (whether using vi or a GUI tool) to change something counts for a lot if its not standardized.
Have you ever seen someone try to drive with a manual transmission after only learning on standard*?
No, but I see a lot of people who complain about people who drive with automatic transmissions because they won't win races. problem is, most people who drive just want to get the job done. If an auto helps them do that, more power to them. But riceboys (car geeks) often fail to understand that.
A person who knows CLI understands not only the networking concepts
You haven't provided any supporting evidence here. I spend my day training Unix guys who know interfaces - the commands they run to do a thing - but not how something works, or what those commands are actually doing in the background.
I also disagree that most command line guys know what a SIOCADDRT error means (not even taking into account the command line guys would be the only people to see such an error). Either way, Linux having poor quality error messages does not justify using the command line.
Furthermore, the CLI skill is more useful overall- because more Linux systems have CLIs available than GUIs (especially in the wake of hardware or configuration failure)
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No, its software. And as the poster above suggests, its licensed to one user (who runs the software - that can show the report to anyone they want) and three machines, which is more than you'd get with most software.
Besides, if it was a hosted service, what's wrong with charging more money to monitor more machines?
Oh my god, unlike a normal license, they a single user use it on more than one machine! What fuckwits!
Heck, Windows doesn't even ship with QuickBasic anymore
There's a C Sharp Compiler installed by default, I think since XP.
All the IP addressing, routing, DNS tasks can be accomplished with the netsh command that's been around for the last four years.
net and echo and telnet have been around for longer.
So your complaint comes down to: Windows lacking a command line packet capturing tool. As a Linux user I personally prefer to be able to drill down into the contents of the packets, and see lots on screen, which I can do better with a GUI packet capturing tool like Ethereal or the one Windows comes with (if you want one, make like Linux and install ethereal).
Proof of that which exists today? or are you still living in 1995?
Er, the firewall logs for any Windows XP network? This one's pretty well known.
Unlike when your RPM database gets corrupted
The RPM database supports transactions, so it becoming corrupt is quite rare. The thing you're probably thinking of was the Red hat 8 RPM freeze issue. That doesn't take your system down. It generates some temporary files you can delete. Oh yeah, and its been fixed.
or when RedHat inadvertantly puts the wrong information on glibc and everyone upgrades and is left with a machine that you can only reinstall the OS on (the shortest path).
Red Hat use newer glibcs before other distros (with good reason to). These can occasionally break binary compatiility, but since everyone will be moving to that version soon, newer versions of software (say Java, which had a problem with NTPL in newer glibcs) will get updated in a short time frame.
RedHat anounced the end of their desktop products as we'd all come to know them
Red Hat never did that. They've always had a desktop product - after Red Hat 9, there was EL3 Workstation (if you paid for support before, you can continue now) and Fedora Core 1 (if you prefer to support things yourself, that's fine too).
I have a similar but different model, the WAG 54G. It has an integrated ADSL modem. Just tested here and it's not affected by the bug.
Not really. EFI is used on Itanium machines, so Intel 64 bit Windows already uses it pretty well.
Not really. Most people using Linux kernel 2.6 partitioned earlier using 2.4 - the bug won't affect you.
If Gentoo releases an installation kernel that uses 2.6, though, you'd be in a different situation.
1. Mandrake, Suse, etc also suffer from this. Not just Fedora. Slashdot's beloved Debian would too if it's installer used 2.6, but it doesn't.
2. It won't screw up your partition table, it'll write it out on a different format. Big difference. No unrecoverable data loss. If you don't tell the installer your disk geometry, then boot Linux and change the format of your partition table.
But for the last time, its can affect anyone who partitions whilst using Linux kernel 2.6, not just Fedora, despite the fact its trendy to hate / misspell Red Hat around here.
Which won't work since it'll launch internet explorer, which the parent poster apparently doesn't use.
The original pictures were leaked. I haven't heard the DoD use the term torture ever, just journalists.
I think we pretty much agree. Lackey doesn't necessarily mean we were forced to become the USs bitch. I actually agree with you - us (or our government as you'd put it) decided we'd become that.
The government most Americans elected are dangerous fuckwits.
The government most Australians elected are dangerous fuckwits.
Then quote me someone - certainly the administration avoids mentioining it anymore - ot makes them look dumb.
Er, then why didn't you do anything in Saudi Arabia?
The iraq thing is pretty simple. Your leaders wanted to invade Iraq, Sept 11 happened, the people got duped into thinking invading Iraq would help. A giant power vacuuum was created which the US, being a foreign entitity, can't hope to fill. So of course fundamentalist Islam is flourishing.
I use Windows but I don't use IE
How do you install OS updates?
Netscape has the commercial name and history that people and business know and trust.
had. knew. trusted. Before seven years of shitty products.
Nobody except you, right or left, still bothers to hint Iraq and Al Qaeda were in bed together, much less say it.
Was Iraq has to do with terrorism is this: by attacking Iraq, and ignoring the Geneva convention the world over, the US pushed a lot of moderate Islamists against them, creating more terrorists. Which is fair enough, most Americans would probably feel the same way if another country treated them that way.
You can check out cool art.
Because vector graphics authoring tools that use motion SVG are, at their beta stage of development, quite poor?
Because HTML/XML can't play movie trailers, whereas Flash's Sorenson codec, native on Linux, can?
Because unlike Java, Flash UI is responsive. unlike DHTML its actually designed for forms, and unlike ActiveX, its cross platform.
I live in Australia. We're apparently a US ally (more like a lackey), but even the most conservative (therefore pro-US) newspapers here reported the Iraqi torture as just that. The Australian, the nationwise conservative newspapaer in a country of 18 million that's one of your biggest allies, used the word torture to describe naked prisoners being badly beaten or having chemical light fluid poured through their anuses.
Which is why I find it amusing that on Nightly Business Report (a US financial news and current program that's on just before our own news) you're using the words 'suspected mistreatment' to describe something that's documented and not denied by anyone (the only issue seems to be whether the Geneva convention was officially supposed to be ignored).
So yeah, look in your own backyard before judging China. Since Sep 11, you're like a wounded pitbull attacking everything and anyone without thought. What on Earth does Iraq have to do with terrorism anyway?
(And yes, Australia has a pretty poor HR record in a lot of ways too - but I'm not denying that)...
Yes.
See bugzilla bug.
To make the problem apparent, you must partition whilst using kernel 2.6. Not upgrade an existing system to 2.6 after having already partitioned.
Also, the bug only appears on particular drive geometries.
But you can fix it with sfdisk, writing out a new partition table with a different geometry.
See the parent posts link.
Also, there's that whole unquenchable-thirst-for-brains thing too.
There's dhclient and iwconfig, but of course I meant the files under /etc. You knew that. The thing you're going to modify (whether using vi or a GUI tool) to change something counts for a lot if its not standardized.
Have you ever seen someone try to drive with a manual transmission after only learning on standard*?
No, but I see a lot of people who complain about people who drive with automatic transmissions because they won't win races. problem is, most people who drive just want to get the job done. If an auto helps them do that, more power to them. But riceboys (car geeks) often fail to understand that.
A person who knows CLI understands not only the networking concepts
You haven't provided any supporting evidence here. I spend my day training Unix guys who know interfaces - the commands they run to do a thing - but not how something works, or what those commands are actually doing in the background.
I also disagree that most command line guys know what a SIOCADDRT error means (not even taking into account the command line guys would be the only people to see such an error). Either way, Linux having poor quality error messages does not justify using the command line.
Furthermore, the CLI skill is more useful overall- because more Linux systems have CLIs available than GUIs (especially in the wake of hardware or configuration failure)
That's true. But that will change.