Australia's elected government no longer has much interest in maintaining regional trade relationships, instead preferring to set up trade agreements with the US. This includes implementing DMCA style laws crippling fair use. The governments understanding of technology issues is quite minimal - our recent communications Minister has gone on the record equating broadband with pornography, and in parliament labelled senators from the Democrats opposed to internet censorship as paedophiles, and Electronic Frontiers Australia (our equivalent of the EFF) as a pornography group.
It's likely that US technology law will continue to be adopted through futher trade agreements without question.
I think you've made a good point, but Fedora will go a long way to resolving that situation - particularly as Red Hat's more immediately accessable default installer and desktop appeal more to new users - its a chance to get them hooked into bug reporting and, hopefully even better, documentation (one of the areas where Linux needs the msot improvement).
Look at what's happened over the last year - besides the Fedora merger, FreshRPMs, ATRPMs, NewRPMs, and Dag have combined to ensure consistent policy across their repositories. Yellowdog is now likely to become Fedora PPC too.
Developers who work on server software in particular (according to Netcraft and IDC Red Hat dominates in this area) might also be attracted to the 6 month release cycle of Fedora versus the perpetually updating and more bleeding edge testing or unstable.
Eugh. The reviewer gets his hands on a distro with out of the box yum and apt support, and then has troubles because he's trying to build an application from unpackages source? He could have done a `yum install gaim' `apt-get install gaim' or `up2date -i gaim' and fetched all the right dependencies.
Or grabbed the source package and rebuilt it with his customizations.
"Now think what a newbie user coming from Windows-land would think about this whole --literally-- usability fiasco."
They wouldn't think anything, cause they wouldn't compile their software, much less do it in the same half assed way the reviewer did. They might complain that yum needs a good GUI frontend through, or up2date needs a better one. Which would be fair, as opposed to this review.
They'd also read the documentation that comes with VMWare and realize that VMWare's Samba server can indeed interfere with an existing Samba server. That isn't a Fedora problem, its a `I didn't real the VMWare documentation'.
There's packages of every multimedia app available at the FreshRPMs repository network. We don't need his xxms-mp3, we especially don't need it as an unpackaged tarball.
He has some valid points: the OSS driver for those yamaha sound cards does indeed suck. ALSA is a much better idea and its time Fedora / Red Hat included it by default. Packages are available on Freshrpms though.
"Mastering Red Hat Linux 10" will be a thin, very complete leaflet to Red Hat Linux 10 that will have "Switch to Debian now!" written on it in big blood-red letters.
People who brought this book also purchased "How to be a rabid Slashdot Debian zealot in 24 hours for dumb idiots visually in full color"
I wonder how many others (than me) are seriously considering moving to debian now that RH9 isn't a 'hold-your-hands' upgradable system (assuming you buy RH update:-)
Not many, and those that don't will likely come back when they relize exactly how much bullshit Slashdot has put out about Fedora. I upgraded from Red Hat 9 to Fedora 1 last night. Pop in CD. Click upgrade. Same as any other Red Hat upgrade.
So this is no different from a Red Hat 8 book. It covers most of Fedora Core apart from the new features, including the new up2date client with um and apt support, GUI bootup, screen res switching tool, OpenOffice 1.1.
That said, I can appreciate that it must indeed suck for the author now that Fedora is having regular 6 month stable releases.
Bluetooth can be really fun. Ask my wife. She's beaming Ringtones like crazy, synching her address book with outlook and surfing the net on her notebook.
Yeah, I've been surfing the net with bluetooth (and GPRS) too. My phone bill for last month is around $1400 Australian.
Not sure if the US is as bad, but I have a feeling it might be.
So Red Hat acknowledges the realistic state of Linux on the desktop and dares create a Debian style distribution with their trademark ease of use and their employees working on it?
The end pretty much happened earlier this year when the most talented and prolific developers forked to form the xouvert
Er, which? Not Keith P, not Mike Harris, not Brenden and not Daniel Stone. Good luck to the Xouvert guys but they've got a lot to prove before they attract the people they want to the project.
The exams cover tools that Red Hat use only. However most skills you'll find work across most distributions. RPM is the LSB standard packaging format, and most popular distributions used in business use it as their native packaging format (only exception is Debian, which is reasonably popular at ISPs).
Apt is a packaging system (in the same way that rpm or deb is), its a front end. Since the next version of Red Hat Linux includes an up2date that can work with apt repositories, this will likely be included in future courseware.
identify what aspects of linux concerns you most. Then identify the contributions made by the concerned parties to this field. Also, IMHO, it is much more sensible to identify specialists with their contributions to the open source community. Redhat certification is very commercialised, and is for people entering Linux to prove their worth to the world.
I'm baised as hell, since I teach RHCEs. That said, developerment and systems administration are very different skills. Most developers make poor system administators, most of the kernel developers I've met wouldn't know how to set up a reliable, secure network comprising a multitude of services. They tend to know a lot about their own specialist area of Linux, ignoring other areas as well as other OSs they may be required to interoperate with. And that's fine, because they're developers, not sysadmins (likewise, most sysadmins make poor developers).
And no, RHCE is certainly not for people new to Linux. The lab based exam is incredibly difficult and many experienced Unix systems administrators don't pass on their first attempt. Ask anyone who's taken the exam, or check out the failure rate for proof.
DVD+RW is supported by HP, Dell, Microsoft and IIRC Pioneer. DVD-RW was supported by Sony, Apple and Compaq. Sony now does dual format drives. As of 10.3, Apple now has support for +RW in their OS (though still not in some apps), and Compaq got brought by HP and now supports +RW.
Mount Ranier (a sucessor to the packet writing technologies people use these days) is based on +RW.
And the compatibility thing may or may not be bullshit depending on who you speak to.
I think we have a winner. Get +RW or a dual format drive.
Slashdot Mirror
As someone working in biometrics and algorithm development
Could you please tell me how I change my secret when its compromised? Yes, seriously.
As Switch. One of the Nebuchadnezzar crew that got killed really early on the first movie and was promptly forgotten about forever.
Mister `STFU' `be polite'.
Australia's elected government no longer has much interest in maintaining regional trade relationships, instead preferring to set up trade agreements with the US. This includes implementing DMCA style laws crippling fair use. The governments understanding of technology issues is quite minimal - our recent communications Minister has gone on the record equating broadband with pornography, and in parliament labelled senators from the Democrats opposed to internet censorship as paedophiles, and Electronic Frontiers Australia (our equivalent of the EFF) as a pornography group.
It's likely that US technology law will continue to be adopted through futher trade agreements without question.
...doesn't mean their dumb.
Indeed, there's much better methods to help determine if they're a few cents short of a dollar. I'd suggest examining their spelling, for one thing.
Couldn't you use the DMCA to stop circumvention of mail security software?
That's a question, not a statement.
For $99 Australian (equivalent of $70 US).
Red Hat aren't ending their support for desktops.
If you want support, you can pick up a RHEL3 workstation boxed set for $99 Australian. That's about 70 US dollars.
I think you've made a good point, but Fedora will go a long way to resolving that situation - particularly as Red Hat's more immediately accessable default installer and desktop appeal more to new users - its a chance to get them hooked into bug reporting and, hopefully even better, documentation (one of the areas where Linux needs the msot improvement).
Look at what's happened over the last year - besides the Fedora merger, FreshRPMs, ATRPMs, NewRPMs, and Dag have combined to ensure consistent policy across their repositories. Yellowdog is now likely to become Fedora PPC too.
Developers who work on server software in particular (according to Netcraft and IDC Red Hat dominates in this area) might also be attracted to the 6 month release cycle of Fedora versus the perpetually updating and more bleeding edge testing or unstable.
Eugh. The reviewer gets his hands on a distro with out of the box yum and apt support, and then has troubles because he's trying to build an application from unpackages source? He could have done a `yum install gaim' `apt-get install gaim' or `up2date -i gaim' and fetched all the right dependencies.
Or grabbed the source package and rebuilt it with his customizations.
"Now think what a newbie user coming from Windows-land would think about this whole --literally-- usability fiasco."
They wouldn't think anything, cause they wouldn't compile their software, much less do it in the same half assed way the reviewer did. They might complain that yum needs a good GUI frontend through, or up2date needs a better one. Which would be fair, as opposed to this review.
They'd also read the documentation that comes with VMWare and realize that VMWare's Samba server can indeed interfere with an existing Samba server. That isn't a Fedora problem, its a `I didn't real the VMWare documentation'.
There's packages of every multimedia app available at the FreshRPMs repository network. We don't need his xxms-mp3, we especially don't need it as an unpackaged tarball.
He has some valid points: the OSS driver for those yamaha sound cards does indeed suck. ALSA is a much better idea and its time Fedora / Red Hat included it by default. Packages are available on Freshrpms though.
Mike
Motopia!
"Mastering Red Hat Linux 10" will be a thin, very complete leaflet to Red Hat Linux 10 that will have "Switch to Debian now!" written on it in big blood-red letters.
People who brought this book also purchased "How to be a rabid Slashdot Debian zealot in 24 hours for dumb idiots visually in full color"
This isn't even advanced server. This is RH9 desktop.
Red Hat 9 includes a server install and a large variety of server apps. The only things it lacks are clustering and a bigmem kernel.
Take USB keys for example. You need to have SCSI compiled to use them. Why???
You need to have SCSI compiled to use them under Windows too. Neither Red Hat 9 nor Windows ask you to compile SCSI to use your USB key.
Otherwise thanks for the second intelligent post I've read in this entire thread.
Please explain how one Open Source project (Fedora) is some how "dumping the user" whereas another (FreeBSD) isn't.
I wonder how many others (than me) are seriously considering moving to debian now that RH9 isn't a 'hold-your-hands' upgradable system (assuming you buy RH update
Not many, and those that don't will likely come back when they relize exactly how much bullshit Slashdot has put out about Fedora. I upgraded from Red Hat 9 to Fedora 1 last night. Pop in CD. Click upgrade. Same as any other Red Hat upgrade.
So this is no different from a Red Hat 8 book. It covers most of Fedora Core apart from the new features, including the new up2date client with um and apt support, GUI bootup, screen res switching tool, OpenOffice 1.1.
That said, I can appreciate that it must indeed suck for the author now that Fedora is having regular 6 month stable releases.
Bluetooth can be really fun. Ask my wife. She's beaming Ringtones like crazy, synching her address book with outlook and surfing the net on her notebook.
Yeah, I've been surfing the net with bluetooth (and GPRS) too. My phone bill for last month is around $1400 Australian.
Not sure if the US is as bad, but I have a feeling it might be.
So Red Hat acknowledges the realistic state of Linux on the desktop and dares create a Debian style distribution with their trademark ease of use and their employees working on it?
What assholes!
The end pretty much happened earlier this year when the most talented and prolific developers forked to form the xouvert
Er, which? Not Keith P, not Mike Harris, not Brenden and not Daniel Stone. Good luck to the Xouvert guys but they've got a lot to prove before they attract the people they want to the project.
Apt is a packaging system (in the same way that rpm or deb are)
Er, isn't.
PS. I should add that my opinions don't necessarily represent those of my employer.
The exams cover tools that Red Hat use only. However most skills you'll find work across most distributions. RPM is the LSB standard packaging format, and most popular distributions used in business use it as their native packaging format (only exception is Debian, which is reasonably popular at ISPs).
Apt is a packaging system (in the same way that rpm or deb is), its a front end. Since the next version of Red Hat Linux includes an up2date that can work with apt repositories, this will likely be included in future courseware.
identify what aspects of linux concerns you most. Then identify the contributions made by the concerned
parties to this field. Also, IMHO, it is much more sensible to identify specialists with their contributions to the open source community. Redhat certification is very
commercialised, and is for people entering Linux to prove their worth to the world.
I'm baised as hell, since I teach RHCEs. That said, developerment and systems administration are very different skills. Most developers make poor system administators, most of the kernel developers I've met wouldn't know how to set up a reliable, secure network comprising a multitude of services. They tend to know a lot about their own specialist area of Linux, ignoring other areas as well as other OSs they may be required to interoperate with. And that's fine, because they're developers, not sysadmins (likewise, most sysadmins make poor developers).
And no, RHCE is certainly not for people new to Linux. The lab based exam is incredibly difficult and many experienced Unix systems administrators don't pass on their first attempt. Ask anyone who's taken the exam, or check out the failure rate for proof.
DVD+RW is supported by HP, Dell, Microsoft and IIRC Pioneer.
DVD-RW was supported by Sony, Apple and Compaq. Sony now does dual format drives. As of 10.3, Apple now has support for +RW in their OS (though still not in some apps), and Compaq got brought by HP and now supports +RW.
Mount Ranier (a sucessor to the packet writing technologies people use these days) is based on +RW.
And the compatibility thing may or may not be bullshit depending on who you speak to.
I think we have a winner. Get +RW or a dual format drive.
What's the error message? Something about the Windows version, or something else?
Anyone tried it under Linux yet (presumably with WineX or a similar setup)?