I had done this once using wmctrl to move, shade windows around, binding CTRL~ in xfce to a script i wrote either brought up the terminal window or shaded and moved it back down below my panel.
check either oreilly for a short article on wmctrl: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6014
I doubt they will be moving to commodity hardware per se, theyre not likely to open up to a slew of windows-compatible hardware and drivers and that headache. The processor will be intel x86, but I suspect the parts to be controlled by apple as always, and that will be how they can confirm that the machine is indeed a mac to 'allow' OSX to run.
Actually, that was due to a change in the way netware counted users (25 to 30) from version to version, the old keys were expecting workgroup to only have 25 users as in nw4 and wouldnt work on nw5 workgroup because it had 5 free extra users for 30 total. or something like that, from what i recall.
...(Any security system thats it is permitted to export from the USA must be bypassable by the appropriate US government agency, or at least thats what I'd assume. I mean, thats what I'd do)...
yup, its called magic lantern or something like that, all of the major commercial companies comply, i believe, even if they don't bring attention to it.
im a google fan as much as anyone, but lets all remember that google is a for-profit, publicly-owned corporation: as much as they wouldn't want to deprive billions of people of a 'useful resource' they also wouldn't want to lose the pay-per-click ad revenue potential.
if you're talking gpl, they would not have to give back their modifications unless they DISTRIBUTE the code (my understanding, im sure i will be corrected shortly if i am wrong...), to make internal-use modifications is under the radar, so to speak.
i dont think that MS will give them modification rights, usually its view only access they give out, so i dont think anyone will be allowed to extend or even patch the code, just see the holes and try to mitigate the vulnerabilities.
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the us of a only exists because of the existence of an armed populace- the minutemen were a 'militia', but in reality they were just a bunch of farmers who owned guns. without those weapons, which were what was technically feasible at the time and on par with those of any standing army, my taxes would still be going to london.
many civics lessons talk about the 3 branches of the us gov't and checks and balances, but in my view there are actually 4 branches (the people being the 4th) and the ability to defend against an oppressive government by force is their check.
as you can see from my sig, i am not a lawyer, but i did once read this article on straight dope regarding personhood for corporations- for what its worth...
but, if we agree that MS' approach yields an insecure design, then can we really say their approach works well?
overrunning a web browser should not give me root access unless it was root who was using the browser- and why would someone do that?
then again, most windows users are acting with elevated privileges by default anyhow just to get things done.
right,
so, now the spammers are properly identifying their mail origins instead of using spoofed headers- this will enable white/black-listing to finally be effective, without the worry that the spammer will just rotate from one 0wned windows zombie to another and start sending mails from their domain.
not to mention the fact that noone at CA understands ingres, they embed it in alot of their products but cant support it at all. ARCserve, for instance, doesnt even use the CA ingres db engine, it uses velocis, because of the problems that CA has supporting ingres.
in a conversation i once had with a senior support person in development regarding errorcodes, they stated that the errorcodes are dynamically generated based on the environment at the time of the error, and noone at CA know how to discern exactly what they mean- the same problem can have multiple errorcodes depending on what other programs were running in memory at the time, etc.
this is an attempt for CA to get some people working on Ingres who can understand and improve the code, without having to actually pay anyone.
...What I would love is some first hand reports from folks who've used Ingres...
nobody has been able to ever since CA grabbed it up and jammed their stupid licensing runtime on it. the best thing they could have done is open source the thing- now that it will run uninterrupted for a while we may be able to see what it can do.
for the unitiated, CA has a license file system that is somewhat based on the FLEX system, except it doesnt work (and therefore neither do the products).
I dont even think the medium should matter, if i buy a copy of a movie licensed for private home viewing on Betamax, why should I need to relicense because the storage medium du jour is DVD?
My feeling is that I should be allowed to store/view that movie in any format that is suitable, provided that I don't make copies and give them to unlicensed parties or charge for people to watch the movies, run them in a bar, etc.
I'm not buying the plastic disc, but a license to the exhibit the movie in my home at will.
Is removing that god-awful CA licensing, anyone who has deployed CA products knows what I mean. That RegisterIT/LicenseIT OLF garbage, even with a "valid" license file it would time out half the time. And forget about changing hardware or a NIC, they bind their license files to your machines MAC address. CA Licensing is worse than Microsoft's activation.
Opera7.23- not only is it not vulnerable to this exploit, it pops up a dialog box to advise you're being redirected to a user@ address (and shows the real address in the bar).
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I had done this once using wmctrl to move, shade windows around, binding CTRL~ in xfce to a script i wrote either brought up the terminal window or shaded and moved it back down below my panel. check either oreilly for a short article on wmctrl: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6014
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I doubt they will be moving to commodity hardware per se, theyre not likely to open up to a slew of windows-compatible hardware and drivers and that headache. The processor will be intel x86, but I suspect the parts to be controlled by apple as always, and that will be how they can confirm that the machine is indeed a mac to 'allow' OSX to run.
Unlikely that you'd have a song on a cd that is over 50 years old, I don't think the half-life of the medium is even that long.
otherwise, we're not interested.
Actually, that was due to a change in the way netware counted users (25 to 30) from version to version, the old keys were expecting workgroup to only have 25 users as in nw4 and wouldnt work on nw5 workgroup because it had 5 free extra users for 30 total. or something like that, from what i recall.
That explains all those holes, turns out their stuff has been beta all this time...
kinda weird to announce that 15-20 years after the fact.
how many clothed manatees are there?
yup, its called magic lantern or something like that, all of the major commercial companies comply, i believe, even if they don't bring attention to it.
im a google fan as much as anyone, but lets all remember that google is a for-profit, publicly-owned corporation: as much as they wouldn't want to deprive billions of people of a 'useful resource' they also wouldn't want to lose the pay-per-click ad revenue potential.
its that darn gpl that requires them to share their innovations that they dislike: embrace and extend, just dont share.
ms is not anti open-source, just anticompetitive.
grab me the word source tarball and ill write you an extension... oh, wait.
well, 'linux' is really only the kernel whereas windows is the whole os and crappy software suite. lets just compare kernel vulns versus windows.
wow, windows at 6GHz, think of how much spyware it would take to finally slow it down...
i dont think that MS will give them modification rights, usually its view only access they give out, so i dont think anyone will be allowed to extend or even patch the code, just see the holes and try to mitigate the vulnerabilities.
many civics lessons talk about the 3 branches of the us gov't and checks and balances, but in my view there are actually 4 branches (the people being the 4th) and the ability to defend against an oppressive government by force is their check.
as you can see from my sig, i am not a lawyer, but i did once read this article on straight dope regarding personhood for corporations- for what its worth...
but, if we agree that MS' approach yields an insecure design, then can we really say their approach works well? overrunning a web browser should not give me root access unless it was root who was using the browser- and why would someone do that? then again, most windows users are acting with elevated privileges by default anyhow just to get things done.
right, so, now the spammers are properly identifying their mail origins instead of using spoofed headers- this will enable white/black-listing to finally be effective, without the worry that the spammer will just rotate from one 0wned windows zombie to another and start sending mails from their domain.
not to mention the fact that noone at CA understands ingres, they embed it in alot of their products but cant support it at all. ARCserve, for instance, doesnt even use the CA ingres db engine, it uses velocis, because of the problems that CA has supporting ingres. in a conversation i once had with a senior support person in development regarding errorcodes, they stated that the errorcodes are dynamically generated based on the environment at the time of the error, and noone at CA know how to discern exactly what they mean- the same problem can have multiple errorcodes depending on what other programs were running in memory at the time, etc. this is an attempt for CA to get some people working on Ingres who can understand and improve the code, without having to actually pay anyone.
...What I would love is some first hand reports from folks who've used Ingres...
nobody has been able to ever since CA grabbed it up and jammed their stupid licensing runtime on it. the best thing they could have done is open source the thing- now that it will run uninterrupted for a while we may be able to see what it can do.
for the unitiated, CA has a license file system that is somewhat based on the FLEX system, except it doesnt work (and therefore neither do the products).
I dont even think the medium should matter, if i buy a copy of a movie licensed for private home viewing on Betamax, why should I need to relicense because the storage medium du jour is DVD?
My feeling is that I should be allowed to store/view that movie in any format that is suitable, provided that I don't make copies and give them to unlicensed parties or charge for people to watch the movies, run them in a bar, etc.
I'm not buying the plastic disc, but a license to the exhibit the movie in my home at will.
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Is removing that god-awful CA licensing, anyone who has deployed CA products knows what I mean. That RegisterIT/LicenseIT OLF garbage, even with a "valid" license file it would time out half the time. And forget about changing hardware or a NIC, they bind their license files to your machines MAC address. CA Licensing is worse than Microsoft's activation.
Opera7.23- not only is it not vulnerable to this exploit, it pops up a dialog box to advise you're being redirected to a user@ address (and shows the real address in the bar).