There are many ways to finger print something that are not reversible. For instance, this is just page viewing preference data about a site you visited. What if it takes a hash of the url and uses that to store settings like current zoom and scroll location. There is almost no way this violates the idea of 'incognito' mode.
just be cause you can fingerprint(uniquely identify) a browsing entity, doesn't mean you can easily find them. You'ld have to then correlate that fingerprint with one with a traceable ip. What if the same firefox plugin I'm using to obfuscate my source IP also is providing a standard set of plugins/fonts and is disabling certain java script calls (ostensibly to prevent itself from being detected but now with the added side effect of preventing you from being uniquely identified).
Of all the bizarre complaints about modern electronics, this is the first one I can definitively understand. Though, how is this any different from the other light sources in reflecting into our eyes at night. I have lights in every room of my house, my TV, and the street lamp outside- so this is nothing new.
"Free speech to Parody Islam"
Hop over to the south park thread from a couple weeks ago and you'ld find your answer to this. No one is stopping you from saying anything bad about Islam. But you can't expect others to say it for you.
Why is it illegal to teach people how to make bombs when the government does it everyday. Or is that the social contract, 'You can have this knowledge, as long as you serve us for 4 years.' I just see it as raising the bar on terrorism.
I'm curious to your antecedent- Do you think that Global Warming is a myth, or that it is not?
If you don't believe GW is happening, in light of all the evidence presented for it and the piss poor attempt to disprove it, what makes you distrust the science behind it?
Lol what? Who said anything about taxing anyone? Where do you live that has made you so paranoid that you got from "Gates wants to invest money in bizarre bioengineering research" to "The government is after my money"
numerical computations that are highly optimized for speed on computers do not always allow for variable sized numbers. The more you assume about a problem, the faster you can make the algorithm to solve it. I'm betting that there are many optimized numerical algorithms in matlab that use underlying knowledge of the data structure itself to solve it. It is a trade off speed vs scalability/generality.
my parent poster- gave an untrue characterization of the need for parents. He is a disingenuous at best, a liar w/ a straw man at worst. My parent is blind to the protections small time inventors do require if they ever actually want to make a dime on their ideas. Not all of us are independently wealthy.
If you nullify software patents, then you call into question all that is hardware patents, because there is NOTHING that can be done in software, that can't be done in hardware.
I feel that you completely ignored my comments on the implications of 'non-obviousness' being a criteria.
If I think of some userinterface that is new and non-obvious, why shouldn't I be able to patent it? Otherwise I make about 100$ on it until the first person who sees how it could be done undercuts me. W/O the income potential, why should I bother working on bringing this idea of mine to fruition?
I think you could easily do that on a linux system today. If the encrypted partitions are mounted with only read permissions of a certain group, and all trusted programs are setguid and a member of that group, wouldn't that do what you wanted? That way you could only interact with the encrypted data using the trusted programs.
Though, if one of those programs allowed you to copy/move the files, then the system could be circumvented, perhaps it does need to be done on the OS/kernel level.
Bah, spoken obviously as someone who doesn't actually try and make anything new and useful. Yes the consumer seems to lose out in the short run for patents, but that isn't the point. It is about the long run.
It wasn't about the lost of information due to unforeseen accidents. It is to prevent two eventualities of an America w/o patents. Either the invention is impossible to reproduce and the inventor takes it to his grave, or someone sees the invention, which didn't exist until the inventor made it, and says hmm, that seem obvious how to do now, I think I'll copy him.
If it is a legit patent, then the fact is it didn't exist until the inventor thought of it, if it is illegitimate, then prove it and get it killed, don't just sit there and whine. There is nothing wrong with the idea of patents in modern society, only with people not making good decision on what is -- and is not-- new and Non-obvious.
To do something like what you described, you'ld need a filesystem that had an ACL for all trusted programs on you're computer. So that any time a file is requested to be read, the fs checked to see if the requesting program has permission. You've now just made a lot of enemies on/. for implementing computer wide DRM.
I get boycotting a company, but Sony is a brand, all of their subsidiary are manages by different people, I had a great experience with sony's digital camera company but a horrible one with their PlayStation. I'ld consider them different companies when it comes to specific products and not over arching policies. Jon
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There are many ways to finger print something that are not reversible. For instance, this is just page viewing preference data about a site you visited. What if it takes a hash of the url and uses that to store settings like current zoom and scroll location. There is almost no way this violates the idea of 'incognito' mode.
just be cause you can fingerprint(uniquely identify) a browsing entity, doesn't mean you can easily find them. You'ld have to then correlate that fingerprint with one with a traceable ip. What if the same firefox plugin I'm using to obfuscate my source IP also is providing a standard set of plugins/fonts and is disabling certain java script calls (ostensibly to prevent itself from being detected but now with the added side effect of preventing you from being uniquely identified).
Which is why I have a linux script that constantly changes the size of my browser window by a couple pixels.
Of all the bizarre complaints about modern electronics, this is the first one I can definitively understand. Though, how is this any different from the other light sources in reflecting into our eyes at night. I have lights in every room of my house, my TV, and the street lamp outside- so this is nothing new.
"Actually no, it's..."
no to what? What is the difference between our two statements: "They were huge firsts" and "no-one else had done it"?!
"Free speech to Parody Islam"
Hop over to the south park thread from a couple weeks ago and you'ld find your answer to this. No one is stopping you from saying anything bad about Islam. But you can't expect others to say it for you.
Why is it illegal to teach people how to make bombs when the government does it everyday. Or is that the social contract, 'You can have this knowledge, as long as you serve us for 4 years.' I just see it as raising the bar on terrorism.
That is because they were huge firsts; a "leap for mankind". Another general maned mission to the moon or to earth orbit isn't.
This gives a rare credence to crackers, other game publishers must be pissssssed at this.
I'm curious to your antecedent- Do you think that Global Warming is a myth, or that it is not?
If you don't believe GW is happening, in light of all the evidence presented for it and the piss poor attempt to disprove it, what makes you distrust the science behind it?
Lol what? Who said anything about taxing anyone? Where do you live that has made you so paranoid that you got from "Gates wants to invest money in bizarre bioengineering research" to "The government is after my money"
If you read the thread you linked to you would have found plausible solutions on the 1st page.
Mine can ::shrug::
IANAL, so, someone please tell me-- Don't you have to have at least a majority in the product to have an anti-trust law suit win against you?!
backroom deals from patent holders?
yep, really the only reason they exist is for converting numbers for input and output, not for doing any computations in matlab with them.
I had no idea you could overload operators in matlab until I looked it up (thanks to you). I used to consider myself a matlab guru...now I know I am.
I'm hoping that is a joke
numerical computations that are highly optimized for speed on computers do not always allow for variable sized numbers. The more you assume about a problem, the faster you can make the algorithm to solve it. I'm betting that there are many optimized numerical algorithms in matlab that use underlying knowledge of the data structure itself to solve it. It is a trade off speed vs scalability/generality.
my parent poster- gave an untrue characterization of the need for parents. He is a disingenuous at best, a liar w/ a straw man at worst. My parent is blind to the protections small time inventors do require if they ever actually want to make a dime on their ideas. Not all of us are independently wealthy.
If you nullify software patents, then you call into question all that is hardware patents, because there is NOTHING that can be done in software, that can't be done in hardware.
I feel that you completely ignored my comments on the implications of 'non-obviousness' being a criteria.
If I think of some userinterface that is new and non-obvious, why shouldn't I be able to patent it? Otherwise I make about 100$ on it until the first person who sees how it could be done undercuts me. W/O the income potential, why should I bother working on bringing this idea of mine to fruition?
actually i've decided I was wrong.
I think you could easily do that on a linux system today. If the encrypted partitions are mounted with only read permissions of a certain group, and all trusted programs are setguid and a member of that group, wouldn't that do what you wanted?
That way you could only interact with the encrypted data using the trusted programs.
Though, if one of those programs allowed you to copy/move the files, then the system could be circumvented, perhaps it does need to be done on the OS/kernel level.
I give up for now.
Bah, spoken obviously as someone who doesn't actually try and make anything new and useful. Yes the consumer seems to lose out in the short run for patents, but that isn't the point. It is about the long run.
It wasn't about the lost of information due to unforeseen accidents. It is to prevent two eventualities of an America w/o patents.
Either the invention is impossible to reproduce and the inventor takes it to his grave, or someone sees the invention, which didn't exist until the inventor made it, and says hmm, that seem obvious how to do now, I think I'll copy him.
If it is a legit patent, then the fact is it didn't exist until the inventor thought of it, if it is illegitimate, then prove it and get it killed, don't just sit there and whine. There is nothing wrong with the idea of patents in modern society, only with people not making good decision on what is -- and is not-- new and Non-obvious.
To do something like what you described, you'ld need a filesystem that had an ACL for all trusted programs on you're computer. So that any time a file is requested to be read, the fs checked to see if the requesting program has permission. You've now just made a lot of enemies on /. for implementing computer wide DRM.
I get boycotting a company, but Sony is a brand, all of their subsidiary are manages by different people, I had a great experience with sony's digital camera company but a horrible one with their PlayStation. I'ld consider them different companies when it comes to specific products and not over arching policies.
Jon