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If I write up a positive book review on a book about technology from a perma-noob perspective and submit it with a amazon link/. will make a nickel from, will it pass the green light no matter how bad of a read it is? I bet it would.
b) The source code and the binary release are brand new, and too much of the code is "new" with no track record of being exposed to devious people. It's quite possible for someone to find a nifty security flaw and create a bit of chaos prior to it being evident as to what happened.
Well, they claim to be releasing a Linux version "soon".
Also, considering without so much free software, such as the Linux kernel, Google would have likely never gotten off the ground, they should throw a bone back to the community as a symbolic gesture, if nothing else. Running to the single largest source of revenue while disregarding the past, which is what they are doing, is enough to justify pondering the "evil corporate entity" side of things-- especially with that EULA on it.
How about not running programs with these licenses in the first place. It's not like Chrome can do anything other browsers can't.
People seem desperate to justify this program. Going so far as to say "It's more stable than FF!" above, though it's only been around for 3 days. I'm running a week old SVN of FF and couldn't tell you if it's more stable than the official FF3 since, well, neither have crashed on me in quite some time.
Why? I've been predicting for years the Google love will eventually start turning into hatred. We are talking about a publicly traded corporate entity with much of it's base in capitalist Amerikka here.
If Microsoft, or anyone else, released an application with a updater process that remained after uninstalling, there would be so much howling on here the thread would simply implode.
But it's Google, so people are trying to defend it by saying it's beta, but leaving out a single line in the uninstall script would have removed the updater executable, so it seems suspect to me. More like someone, somewhere said, "No, we don't want that file removed, take that line out" after Dev initially used common sense and would be unlikely to forget something like this.
More howling, imo, needs to happen in regards to them releasing this with a lot of Windows specific code. The way I understand things, you try to keep your source as posix as possible from the start and not write a Windows application for beta, then slowly rework your code to something more Linux friendly. I could be wrong.
I've been playing Descent 3 like this on my modern laptop for the past 2 years.
Thanks for backing my point up. Yes, it helps when the source code is released:
The source code to the original Descent (minus the audio code, which was replaced with the Allegro project) was released in 1997. The source code to Descent II was subsequently released in 1999[2].
Some even update the game to run on newer operating systems.
Freeware doesn't necessarily mean you have access to the source code. Just try running some ancient Linux games released binary-only on a modern system. If I recall, Sim City 3k was one of these. Lost to the abyss.
To save a game for history, source needs to be out there. Dungeons of Daggorath is a fine example of this. Originally released in 1982, and still going strong in 2008. Well, "strong" being relative to it's sales back in the day compared to number of folks who don't have a problem compiling a game nowadays.
Yes, the comparison of two Windows-only browsers. It's like watching two retards in a pit fight.
I don't care about Chrome until a Linux version is released. Damn Google for utilizing so much Linux and always dragging ass getting Linux software out the door.
I know too many people that think "beta" means Gold (or at least Release Candidate). I wouldn't be surprised if they now think "beta" is synonymous with freeware.
If I hadn't already posted on this thread I would have been really torn between Insightful and Funny for your post because that really tickles my funny bone.
I once played a small OSS game that was in pre-alpha and the user base screamed about bugs, demanding fixes, etc on their forums like someone was actually making a buck while not absorbing any concept of "hey, send us a patch with your fix and we'll make sure it gets implemented in the next release!"...
Mind you, you can't quite go fixing IE source your self, but still, yes, this is beta software and even I have enough sense to know the actual release will probably have some massive underlying changes resulting in different results from any benchmarks run today.
But, you forget, to many people the 'LOL IE/Vista SUX' thing is still fresh. To the rest of us, it's as worn out as that "In Soviet Russia...." guy from the 80's, especially when you have not dealt much with Windows aside from using it as a gaming platform or something you VNC into and restart a service on occasion for over a decade.
I'm not a big fan of Opera, but I agree, strip down Firefox of everything but ABP, and you'll get a bump in performance.
Another fun thing I did was grab a svn of Swiftfox and had only the Flash10 beta running on it on Ubuntu 8.04 (x64). It's fairly stable (as in hasn't ever given me any trouble!), and a little lighter than Firefox. I'm not familiar with the details as to what makes it lighter weight, but I like it's snappy icon.
The biggest gains I've gotten is from just throwing up a local copy of Squid and disabling Firefox's disk caching. I am uncertain as to why, but FF has always bogged down my boxes when it writes anything to disk. Squid doesn't seem to have this problem.
As I was scrolling through his ramblings, I was going to respond with the same thing you said.
I was doing tech support back when Windows 95 came out and, Oh God, it was the end of the world in both the media and every damn person I talked to on the phone would repeat the same nonsense they picked up in popular news stories about how bad Microsoft screwed up, how they are going to be out of business soon, and so on.
Thanks for apparently being the only other person on slashdot who seems to remember every new Microsoft OS as a nightmare and the months of FUD to follow.
I took this headline with a grain of salt. It's really not uncommon for even Firefox to take up more resources than even the OS on my Linux box when I've got a bunch of busy pages open in multiple tabs. I am also not shocked at all that developers are writing applications with enough threads to consume the resources of a modern CPU. If things were built with minimal resources in mind, we'd likely still be sitting in front of amber screened 8086 boxes, since, well, they did run the business world quite efficiently in their day. No reason to bloat things up!
I first heard of it while listening to Art Bell quite a few years ago. He read the entire thing aloud during one of his shows. It was very entertaining with his witty delivery.
Damn, I miss him being on the air. Hell, I miss AM talk radio having entertaining shows instead of endless Liberal vs Conservative nonsense.
While that's true, still, the email he received looks like an authentic inquiry. He doesn't need to set himself up for sounding like a squatter. He can simply tell the company he's using it for email and has plans to expand it's use for his company further down the road, but would be willing to consider a reasonable offer.
This is/., people would rather get wrapped up in a 1/1,000,000 chance of something being a big trap than suggest this guy try and profit.
I've sold three domains I was legitimately using and made a pretty nice wad of cash. They all initiated with similar emails. The highest one being $19k USD.
I haven't played WoW very seriously, but from what I've seen, at least some classes need to be pretty focused, and have quite a lot of things to keep track of -- more buttons than exist on any console controller.
Funny, I've got a keyboard attached to my 360.
Secondarily, when I played WoW, I played it on my 50" HD panel while on the sofa with a wireless keyboard and mouse on the PC. This actually resulted in the play being more fun since I was able to use my primary surround system for listening to music, able to stretch out and relax while playing, and while waiting for groups to gather, I could simply go split screen and watch something on the Tivo.
At the time I had wished the game ran on the Xbox, primarily so everyone would have a standardized way of communicating with their voice, instead of having to spend another 20 minutes trying to help some random person set up Ventrillo, have it sound like garbage, or not work for whatever reason.
I can't speak for the Wii controller, but if you wanted to make it a controller-only game, the 360 controller has a keypad expansion that could be utilized, and even without that, you can do enough chording of buttons and quick pop-up menus to satisfy most MMO games.
Not sure what is so terribly insightful by making vague, negative predictions of how things could be. Those tend to be tripe since, well, companies want to make money by delivering goods people will want to buy, people won't buy a game that's horribly crippled by the system's input these days. Not with free demos being the norm, so folks can see what they are getting into before throwing down a credit card.
This seems unlikely since he isn't even up for a parole application for fifteen years.
It's a life sentence, but he can file for parole after the 15 years passes, but I'd bet unless someone cares enough to dig up new evidence showing he might be innocent, the parole will be denied.
But when her friend asks "oh what is that, platinum?" and she has to spend ten minutes with a geek driven explanation about how it was cheaper, but somehow more valuable, she may die a little more inside.
You should be ashamed for comparing the two issues.
Rosa was not actively seeking conflict. She was seeking to bring attention to the racial injustice of a region of the country.
The OP, on the other hand, voluntarily moved into a neighborhood with a home owners association. He was notified prior the the closing what the rules were and signed off on them prior to the deal being sealed. Then turns around and sees how big of a dick he can be.
Huge difference there, and my last line had more to do with how to have people to have cookouts with, drink beer, and chill out on the porch when you get older and live at the same place. Friends are easy to make and actually a good thing to have, last I checked. Anyway, it had nothing to do with cowering to true oppression, which is not what OP is facing here.
In the UK, bongs are sold openly, on big shelves saying 'BONGS FOR SALE' with pictures of marijuana leaves next to them, in high street shops.
Yes, same here. There's laws on selling items used to ingest illegal drugs pretty much nationally, but we sell them as "water pipes" without declaring an intention for their purpose other than to be used as a smoking device.
If only it could have been the UK who got the Regeans instead of the US.:)
Lawn care is pure eye candy. It hurts nobody to let your lawn go to hell, except that it looks bad and poor weak-brained people can't withstand that.
Well, it depends on what part of the country you are in. In my area, near the swamps, if you don't maintain your lawn, pine straw and grass will build up very quickly. Very quickly, you will find your home and neighbor's property (if close, like in a subdivision) full of cockroaches, ants, and mice.
I do agree, though. Places with more arid climates seem to do this sort of thing more for the sake of vanity. But I say that being unaware of what sort of pitfalls a lot of growth near housing structures come with in those regions.
Damn, I would not be proud of pissing off all my neighbors like this. It just shows bad character to buy a home knowing there's a home owners association, then doing everything possible to defy it.
People like you and the sets of rules in HOOs is much of why I decided on a house that was a) not in a subdivision, and b) away from all those wacky rules. If I don't mow the lawn, I only make myself look bad. If I put a truck in the yard, the same thing. Mind you, I don't care what other people think very much, but do have a tendency to keep things just as tidy as any organization would require.
There's nothing good about looking for conflict. The best path is to dodge it.
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If I write up a positive book review on a book about technology from a perma-noob perspective and submit it with a amazon link /. will make a nickel from, will it pass the green light no matter how bad of a read it is? I bet it would.
I'll let the hype pass before I have a look.
As will I, for two reasons:
a) No Linux version
b) The source code and the binary release are brand new, and too much of the code is "new" with no track record of being exposed to devious people. It's quite possible for someone to find a nifty security flaw and create a bit of chaos prior to it being evident as to what happened.
Well, they claim to be releasing a Linux version "soon".
Also, considering without so much free software, such as the Linux kernel, Google would have likely never gotten off the ground, they should throw a bone back to the community as a symbolic gesture, if nothing else. Running to the single largest source of revenue while disregarding the past, which is what they are doing, is enough to justify pondering the "evil corporate entity" side of things-- especially with that EULA on it.
How about not running programs with these licenses in the first place. It's not like Chrome can do anything other browsers can't.
People seem desperate to justify this program. Going so far as to say "It's more stable than FF!" above, though it's only been around for 3 days. I'm running a week old SVN of FF and couldn't tell you if it's more stable than the official FF3 since, well, neither have crashed on me in quite some time.
but it takes me totally by surprise from Google
Why? I've been predicting for years the Google love will eventually start turning into hatred. We are talking about a publicly traded corporate entity with much of it's base in capitalist Amerikka here.
If Microsoft, or anyone else, released an application with a updater process that remained after uninstalling, there would be so much howling on here the thread would simply implode.
But it's Google, so people are trying to defend it by saying it's beta, but leaving out a single line in the uninstall script would have removed the updater executable, so it seems suspect to me. More like someone, somewhere said, "No, we don't want that file removed, take that line out" after Dev initially used common sense and would be unlikely to forget something like this.
More howling, imo, needs to happen in regards to them releasing this with a lot of Windows specific code. The way I understand things, you try to keep your source as posix as possible from the start and not write a Windows application for beta, then slowly rework your code to something more Linux friendly. I could be wrong.
I've been playing Descent 3 like this on my modern laptop for the past 2 years.
Thanks for backing my point up. Yes, it helps when the source code is released:
The source code to the original Descent (minus the audio code, which was replaced with the Allegro project) was released in 1997. The source code to Descent II was subsequently released in 1999[2].
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_(computer_game)
The method you cite stops working the day Loki decides to close it's doors and the Linux kernel makes another step forward in it's evolution.
Some even update the game to run on newer operating systems.
Freeware doesn't necessarily mean you have access to the source code. Just try running some ancient Linux games released binary-only on a modern system. If I recall, Sim City 3k was one of these. Lost to the abyss.
To save a game for history, source needs to be out there. Dungeons of Daggorath is a fine example of this. Originally released in 1982, and still going strong in 2008. Well, "strong" being relative to it's sales back in the day compared to number of folks who don't have a problem compiling a game nowadays.
Yes, the comparison of two Windows-only browsers. It's like watching two retards in a pit fight.
I don't care about Chrome until a Linux version is released. Damn Google for utilizing so much Linux and always dragging ass getting Linux software out the door.
I know too many people that think "beta" means Gold (or at least Release Candidate). I wouldn't be surprised if they now think "beta" is synonymous with freeware.
If I hadn't already posted on this thread I would have been really torn between Insightful and Funny for your post because that really tickles my funny bone.
I once played a small OSS game that was in pre-alpha and the user base screamed about bugs, demanding fixes, etc on their forums like someone was actually making a buck while not absorbing any concept of "hey, send us a patch with your fix and we'll make sure it gets implemented in the next release!"...
Mind you, you can't quite go fixing IE source your self, but still, yes, this is beta software and even I have enough sense to know the actual release will probably have some massive underlying changes resulting in different results from any benchmarks run today.
But, you forget, to many people the 'LOL IE/Vista SUX' thing is still fresh. To the rest of us, it's as worn out as that "In Soviet Russia...." guy from the 80's, especially when you have not dealt much with Windows aside from using it as a gaming platform or something you VNC into and restart a service on occasion for over a decade.
I'm not a big fan of Opera, but I agree, strip down Firefox of everything but ABP, and you'll get a bump in performance.
Another fun thing I did was grab a svn of Swiftfox and had only the Flash10 beta running on it on Ubuntu 8.04 (x64). It's fairly stable (as in hasn't ever given me any trouble!), and a little lighter than Firefox. I'm not familiar with the details as to what makes it lighter weight, but I like it's snappy icon.
The biggest gains I've gotten is from just throwing up a local copy of Squid and disabling Firefox's disk caching. I am uncertain as to why, but FF has always bogged down my boxes when it writes anything to disk. Squid doesn't seem to have this problem.
As I was scrolling through his ramblings, I was going to respond with the same thing you said.
I was doing tech support back when Windows 95 came out and, Oh God, it was the end of the world in both the media and every damn person I talked to on the phone would repeat the same nonsense they picked up in popular news stories about how bad Microsoft screwed up, how they are going to be out of business soon, and so on.
Thanks for apparently being the only other person on slashdot who seems to remember every new Microsoft OS as a nightmare and the months of FUD to follow.
I took this headline with a grain of salt. It's really not uncommon for even Firefox to take up more resources than even the OS on my Linux box when I've got a bunch of busy pages open in multiple tabs. I am also not shocked at all that developers are writing applications with enough threads to consume the resources of a modern CPU. If things were built with minimal resources in mind, we'd likely still be sitting in front of amber screened 8086 boxes, since, well, they did run the business world quite efficiently in their day. No reason to bloat things up!
Can we stop giving Anti-Globalism so much attention here? He's such a negative nancy.
You win the thread for getting my reference.
I first heard of it while listening to Art Bell quite a few years ago. He read the entire thing aloud during one of his shows. It was very entertaining with his witty delivery.
Damn, I miss him being on the air. Hell, I miss AM talk radio having entertaining shows instead of endless Liberal vs Conservative nonsense.
While that's true, still, the email he received looks like an authentic inquiry. He doesn't need to set himself up for sounding like a squatter. He can simply tell the company he's using it for email and has plans to expand it's use for his company further down the road, but would be willing to consider a reasonable offer.
This is /., people would rather get wrapped up in a 1/1,000,000 chance of something being a big trap than suggest this guy try and profit.
I've sold three domains I was legitimately using and made a pretty nice wad of cash. They all initiated with similar emails. The highest one being $19k USD.
Let fear reign and opportunity escape.
This is assuming the "E.T." is made of meat, like us, which I feel is a common mistake we make when thinking of what could exist elsewhere.
I blame Star Trek.
I haven't played WoW very seriously, but from what I've seen, at least some classes need to be pretty focused, and have quite a lot of things to keep track of -- more buttons than exist on any console controller.
Funny, I've got a keyboard attached to my 360.
Secondarily, when I played WoW, I played it on my 50" HD panel while on the sofa with a wireless keyboard and mouse on the PC. This actually resulted in the play being more fun since I was able to use my primary surround system for listening to music, able to stretch out and relax while playing, and while waiting for groups to gather, I could simply go split screen and watch something on the Tivo.
At the time I had wished the game ran on the Xbox, primarily so everyone would have a standardized way of communicating with their voice, instead of having to spend another 20 minutes trying to help some random person set up Ventrillo, have it sound like garbage, or not work for whatever reason.
I can't speak for the Wii controller, but if you wanted to make it a controller-only game, the 360 controller has a keypad expansion that could be utilized, and even without that, you can do enough chording of buttons and quick pop-up menus to satisfy most MMO games.
Not sure what is so terribly insightful by making vague, negative predictions of how things could be. Those tend to be tripe since, well, companies want to make money by delivering goods people will want to buy, people won't buy a game that's horribly crippled by the system's input these days. Not with free demos being the norm, so folks can see what they are getting into before throwing down a credit card.
This seems unlikely since he isn't even up for a parole application for fifteen years.
It's a life sentence, but he can file for parole after the 15 years passes, but I'd bet unless someone cares enough to dig up new evidence showing he might be innocent, the parole will be denied.
But when her friend asks "oh what is that, platinum?" and she has to spend ten minutes with a geek driven explanation about how it was cheaper, but somehow more valuable, she may die a little more inside.
Yes, by purchasing a home with freedom from HOAs in mind, I am truely a coward.
You only get stuck under a HOA if you want to. The OP apparently wanted to.
Nice to see the same AC troll every post I make. ;)
You should be ashamed for comparing the two issues.
Rosa was not actively seeking conflict. She was seeking to bring attention to the racial injustice of a region of the country.
The OP, on the other hand, voluntarily moved into a neighborhood with a home owners association. He was notified prior the the closing what the rules were and signed off on them prior to the deal being sealed. Then turns around and sees how big of a dick he can be.
Huge difference there, and my last line had more to do with how to have people to have cookouts with, drink beer, and chill out on the porch when you get older and live at the same place. Friends are easy to make and actually a good thing to have, last I checked. Anyway, it had nothing to do with cowering to true oppression, which is not what OP is facing here.
Don't expect any mod points for giving the most rational explanation in the entire thread. That doesn't fly here, buddy.
In the UK, bongs are sold openly, on big shelves saying 'BONGS FOR SALE' with pictures of marijuana leaves next to them, in high street shops.
Yes, same here. There's laws on selling items used to ingest illegal drugs pretty much nationally, but we sell them as "water pipes" without declaring an intention for their purpose other than to be used as a smoking device.
If only it could have been the UK who got the Regeans instead of the US. :)
Lawn care is pure eye candy. It hurts nobody to let your lawn go to hell, except that it looks bad and poor weak-brained people can't withstand that.
Well, it depends on what part of the country you are in. In my area, near the swamps, if you don't maintain your lawn, pine straw and grass will build up very quickly. Very quickly, you will find your home and neighbor's property (if close, like in a subdivision) full of cockroaches, ants, and mice.
I do agree, though. Places with more arid climates seem to do this sort of thing more for the sake of vanity. But I say that being unaware of what sort of pitfalls a lot of growth near housing structures come with in those regions.
Damn, I would not be proud of pissing off all my neighbors like this. It just shows bad character to buy a home knowing there's a home owners association, then doing everything possible to defy it.
People like you and the sets of rules in HOOs is much of why I decided on a house that was a) not in a subdivision, and b) away from all those wacky rules. If I don't mow the lawn, I only make myself look bad. If I put a truck in the yard, the same thing. Mind you, I don't care what other people think very much, but do have a tendency to keep things just as tidy as any organization would require.
There's nothing good about looking for conflict. The best path is to dodge it.