Couldn't the same be said for a man who chose to express his creativity in a resource gathering manner (work) and seek to hire a master of the jewelry trade to make a ring?
The OP said "days" of work, which is rather insignificant in comparison to most people who spend "months" of work on fine jewelry for their woman.
Anyway, I think the submitter should have just stuck to having his wedding on Everquest or World of Warcraft. It's much easier to skill up jewel crafting on there.
I remember the observation that something that would bend or distort a titanium ring would propably do horrible things to your hands if you didn't have that ring on in the first place.
I would be willing to go out on a limb and say the majority of jewelery being cut off digits is more likely due to tissue swelling, from things like diabetes or allergic reactions.
In response to getting a "geeky" band, someone needs to get a reality check. Traditionally, the man is not supposed to have any choice in band selection, except choosing which credit card to pull out when it comes time to pay.
It's also taking a big chance, as both parties will probably be quite a bit more mature in a few years, and probably regret not getting something with lasting value, such as platinum or a finer grade of gold. You can get a spectacular platinum band for men, for about $700, and a woman's set for less than $3k. Good ones feel like some metal of the gods due to the massive weight for such a small piece. Not enough to get make your finger tired, but enough to surprise people who have only held gold.
As for scratching, gold will scratches and dings with ease. Jewelers who want to liquidate gold or platinum will change their story about which is best depending on what they need to get rid of that week. Meanwhile, both will likely need repair or polishing at some point in the future. A fine example is my father's wedding band, which he never serviced after 30 years, it's gold, but looks like someone wire-brushed it with a grinder at this point.
Gold will also let go of diamonds a lot easier than platinum. Thus giving the jeweler a higher probability of stone resets and/or new stone sales over the life of the customer.
I really don't care what solution a site uses. Nobody said it was an OSS. You keep arguing points that nobody brings up.
If you are so scared of commercial solutions being used for live video feeds, start a sourceforge project and work on getting tools constructed and packaged in a way that equals Silverlight's functionality and performance.
I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's reality. OSS is nice, it is important, but unless people are willing to commit to projects that outdo commercial applications, they aren't exactly going to dominate.
You can argue all you wish, but the mere existence of Linux, it's dominance in data centers, the success of Apache, Sendmail and many other OSS tools shows that companies are willing to skip over commercial alternatives when the free solutions are better.
This is why I tend to call most slashdotters who feel threatened by Microsoft mere pseudo OSS advocates. They cry endlessly over the evils of Microsoft, but never do anything to contribute. No, just running Linux and screaming about evil monopilies is not a contribution. The only thing you'll get from that is like-minded individuals who don't do anything to agree with you, but nothing in the real world changes.
If you want to make change with OSS, it's really up to you to do so. This was widely how things were seen a decade ago, but now it's becoming more and more the same types who would have been running Windows in 1997, demanding other people to "fix it all" for them. This attitude, more than anything Microsoft could ever do, will remain the primary factor in the "extinguishing" of open source. Mind you, I am not buying any of this, as every day there's more Linux related jobs opening up in my area.
The issue is the VIDEO...of course the site loads in anything. You could run straight up netscape and probably get the site to load...but the video? Aww, proprietary solution huh?
Um, yes, by saying the "site" works just fine with OSX, I am implying the "VIDEO" plays back just fine under OSX with Firefox.
Hows that choice of yours working out for you, especially with OSX?
Which choice are you speaking of? I've got OSX, Debian, FreeBSD, Ubuntu (with a Windows VM as guest) and Slackware running on my systems here.
Your definition of "doesn't translate well" sounds more like "I don't like this way of doing it". For many people, an IRC session and dice bot are just as fun as anything.
The same goes with video poker. Many people actually prefer this as opposed to dealing with real cards and the mechanics behind it are the same.
So I announce this... if Geekalize could get funding again, and not get ripped off like it did with Dead Mages on the Shores, I would bring it back, and make the social networking site for geeks purely open source, with API's, project management, and among other things, a chance for the community to seriously focus upon the site as a whole, and contribute features, abilities, etc, and all of the coding would be via a GNU license.
So we could all focus on writing tools for you to use, make a profit with, then if things don't work out, get told how we ripped you off or did you wrong on Internet forums? No thanks.
If you turned your "artistic statement" into a Slashdot comment and it would get modded down as "Troll", it's not a particularly good statement. Keep thinking.
I would not consider things which are mod-worthy on slasdot being of much value anywhere except slashdot. Most of the +5 Insightful writings on here would get you laughed out of any sort of face to face debate in the majority of settings.
I agree with you. Those crazy people who think people will act out video games should get ready for me to dress up in a pirate outfit and go around stabbing people in the back with a 3 foot long dagger,/dancing and/giggling the whole time.
(World of Warcraft PVP, world ganking people 50 levels lower than myself for fun)
Well, this is for a company who is getting one of the better day care services and the employees are making over $70k a year on average.
If they require day care on this magnitude, both parents probably work, and the way the cookie tends to crumble is usually a spouse making around the same, so assume a household income of $140k a year.
Then, you get a tax deduction on each kid at the end of the year, which turns into a few thousand more dollars.
More people need to pay attention to this stuff when they make fun of the US being in recession. It's at a low and we can still afford to blow thousands a month on things we really don't _need_.;)
Don't worry, conservative AM talk radio will harp about any popular case for weeks in an attempt to make any liberal judge or jury sound like terrible people. They'll get the word out for you.
With exception to Asteroids and Space Invaders, since they are from a time when you could count the number of machines in an arcade on two hands, none of the greats, like Mario, Sonic, Pacman, etc would have likely happened without the potential for big money and it took many companies making thousands of forgotten titles for these diamonds to appear.
BUT mostly the more money corporates see in a product range, the more product they will produce of same type.
Companies are sales driven. If they make a lot of sales doing something, they continue until sales begin to taper off.
Take FPS: Wolfenstein gave way to CoD, MoH, Crysis, and Doom gave way to Unreal, etc., was there any real innovation along? Like a hardware, software combo (Glove and Glock)?? Nope.
The innovation in FPS games is in the network capability, level of graphics, artwork, etc. For instance, Quake was earth-shattering in comparison to any shooter prior to it. The innovation there was the magical coding that allowed a slow PC to actually allow one to navigate a 3D world. Had the potential to make a lot of money not been there, Carmak probably would have gone and signed up for a DARPA project or somewhere there was a potential to gain resources from his skills.
I would rather see the game industry try to innovate rather than suing and kicking their customers off....and please stop calling it "piracy": No one has any idea what a pirate means and how the British Common law dealt with "real" pirates on high seas.
They aren't really cracking down much on the random joe nicking a rom off usenet, this guy made nearly half a million dollars off their intellectual property. This, to me, is a bit different.
I don't know, it tends to be pretty big news when someone is found innocent of a crime such as murder.
Then again, there's many, many murders that happen which get absolutely no press beyond a line in the police blog section of the news paper. Not everything gets covered, or cared about, like OJ and Nancy Holloway.
Not likely. It's not one of those things where you can pick a gray area, since you can't partially disclose the identity or the crime, it's all or nothing.
I'm all for the freedom of information in this regards. If the locals are too immature to handle themselves, then that's their problem.
Well, he isn't getting 15 years for stealing a game. He's getting 15 months, most of which will probably be suspended, for stealing Nintendo's property and selling it illegally. This has nothing to do with someone just making a backup of a game they purchased. This is the type of activity those laws were written for, not the simple joe downloading Mario off usenet and running it with an emulator for personal use.
Try and think of it as if you had written or bought the rights to a number of books in the 80s, all to have some chump come along a few years later, put them all into a set and sell unauthorized copies. I doubt you'd be happy about this.
Your average drunk driver makes his way home safely, so there's not much reason for stiff penalties unless the person does manage to cause damage and this is the case. Whether booze is unhealthy or not isn't an issue, since we are responsible for our own choices. MADD would disagree, but their level of crazy is starting to get old to even lawmakers.
Let's also not forget unauthorized systems like this have the potential to devalue the vconsole goodies for the Wii. I'd rather classic games maintain their value so they'll have higher chances of getting support on modern systems.
Then again, I've bought all the non-free games I've played in the last decade. I _WANT_ the game industry to have money so more games will come out. I do not want the game industry to slow down because people feel copyright does not apply to them, expecting people to spend millions of dollars developing games for free? Nope. Things don't work like that, unless you can cite an open source game project that is remotely on the average PC or console gamer's radar.
What always makes me wonder about these crimes... what did he think was going to happen? I guess this sentence is good if it stops other, completely clueless, individuals from doing this same thing.
He probably spent too much time posting on Slashdot, arguing about how IP should be nobody's property, got modded +5 Insightful so many times that he thought he could use the same arguments in a court room.
Sort of like the silica packets that come in boxes of stuff. "DO NOT EAT." WTF sort of brain dead moron went out and bought an appliance, found said packet, and decided that the company had been nice enough to include a handy snack, at it, and thus justified that warning label? Just let them go... The world will be a better place for it.
I think many of those labels are for children. Those little packets do look like some kind of sugar beans and may topple out of the appliance's box and end up on the kitchen floor, or stuck between sofa cushions with a bunch of other yummy morsels.
Yes, if it is boring, it's smartest to just throw in the towel. During my stint playing I saw a number of people in my guild who had stuck around far longer than the game was fun to them. This resulted in them being quite combative and random personalities, I assume, from boredom or frustration.
If nothing else, I believe Blizzard will forever hold onto your character's data after the subscription runs out. I figure, if this is true, I may pop back in for a few months at some point in the future and be "mid level" at 60.:)
The gold values you mention are madness compared to the world I was familiar with. My favorite way of making money, albeit not the most effective, was to find a good fishing buddy and head off to a high level zone between auction postings and try to catch some higher value fish and cook up fancy things to sell. Rogues were decent fishermen in dangerous areas, and enemy players would often just wander up, sit down, and start fishing too, since it sucks to wear your fishing gear, wondering when that heavily loaded ambush is going to happen.
I considered private servers, but I really want to play in a high population, pvp enabled, environment. Has anyone gotten a decent population with one like that yet? If so, is there much trouble with GMs not allowing the same freedoms as Blizzard GMs typically allow? Not that I spent a lot of time corpse camping and repeatedly raping people in cloth, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.;)
I don't know, but this sub thread was about iChat, which depends on about 3 gigs of encrypted code, the majority of which only the dark Apple overlords knows what goes on inside of.
Telephone networks, network switches at your ISP, cell phones, gmail, name servers, and non-local web servers all have code invisible to the end user.
So, we might as well get paranoid enough to shun all modern communications technology if we are going to get our panties in a wad over a single closed source program.
In the us unlimited broadband may be going away and isp's like comcarp do don like steaming video.
Please. In the 80s it was going to cost extra for a modem to use a phone line. Now it's "oh noes, broadband isn't going to be unlimited anymore!".
The Internet here is not an extension of the government or a communist party. They are independent companies who will advertise "unlimited" services as they wish, unless something happens to disrupt the model. That hasn't happened, only Internet speculation has happened.
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Couldn't the same be said for a man who chose to express his creativity in a resource gathering manner (work) and seek to hire a master of the jewelry trade to make a ring?
The OP said "days" of work, which is rather insignificant in comparison to most people who spend "months" of work on fine jewelry for their woman.
Anyway, I think the submitter should have just stuck to having his wedding on Everquest or World of Warcraft. It's much easier to skill up jewel crafting on there.
You are doomed in the marriage department.
I remember the observation that something that would bend or distort a titanium ring would propably do horrible things to your hands if you didn't have that ring on in the first place.
I would be willing to go out on a limb and say the majority of jewelery being cut off digits is more likely due to tissue swelling, from things like diabetes or allergic reactions.
In response to getting a "geeky" band, someone needs to get a reality check. Traditionally, the man is not supposed to have any choice in band selection, except choosing which credit card to pull out when it comes time to pay.
It's also taking a big chance, as both parties will probably be quite a bit more mature in a few years, and probably regret not getting something with lasting value, such as platinum or a finer grade of gold. You can get a spectacular platinum band for men, for about $700, and a woman's set for less than $3k. Good ones feel like some metal of the gods due to the massive weight for such a small piece. Not enough to get make your finger tired, but enough to surprise people who have only held gold.
As for scratching, gold will scratches and dings with ease. Jewelers who want to liquidate gold or platinum will change their story about which is best depending on what they need to get rid of that week. Meanwhile, both will likely need repair or polishing at some point in the future. A fine example is my father's wedding band, which he never serviced after 30 years, it's gold, but looks like someone wire-brushed it with a grinder at this point.
Gold will also let go of diamonds a lot easier than platinum. Thus giving the jeweler a higher probability of stone resets and/or new stone sales over the life of the customer.
Just about every computer noob I know has noticed the big ABP stop sign in the top corner of their Firefox.
Stop pretending like you a) have friends and b) are smarter than them.
Thank you.
You are arguing with the wrong person here.
I really don't care what solution a site uses. Nobody said it was an OSS. You keep arguing points that nobody brings up.
If you are so scared of commercial solutions being used for live video feeds, start a sourceforge project and work on getting tools constructed and packaged in a way that equals Silverlight's functionality and performance.
I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's reality. OSS is nice, it is important, but unless people are willing to commit to projects that outdo commercial applications, they aren't exactly going to dominate.
You can argue all you wish, but the mere existence of Linux, it's dominance in data centers, the success of Apache, Sendmail and many other OSS tools shows that companies are willing to skip over commercial alternatives when the free solutions are better.
This is why I tend to call most slashdotters who feel threatened by Microsoft mere pseudo OSS advocates. They cry endlessly over the evils of Microsoft, but never do anything to contribute. No, just running Linux and screaming about evil monopilies is not a contribution. The only thing you'll get from that is like-minded individuals who don't do anything to agree with you, but nothing in the real world changes.
If you want to make change with OSS, it's really up to you to do so. This was widely how things were seen a decade ago, but now it's becoming more and more the same types who would have been running Windows in 1997, demanding other people to "fix it all" for them. This attitude, more than anything Microsoft could ever do, will remain the primary factor in the "extinguishing" of open source. Mind you, I am not buying any of this, as every day there's more Linux related jobs opening up in my area.
The issue is the VIDEO...of course the site loads in anything. You could run straight up netscape and probably get the site to load...but the video? Aww, proprietary solution huh?
Um, yes, by saying the "site" works just fine with OSX, I am implying the "VIDEO" plays back just fine under OSX with Firefox.
Hows that choice of yours working out for you, especially with OSX?
Which choice are you speaking of? I've got OSX, Debian, FreeBSD, Ubuntu (with a Windows VM as guest) and Slackware running on my systems here.
Your definition of "doesn't translate well" sounds more like "I don't like this way of doing it". For many people, an IRC session and dice bot are just as fun as anything.
The same goes with video poker. Many people actually prefer this as opposed to dealing with real cards and the mechanics behind it are the same.
So I announce this... if Geekalize could get funding again, and not get ripped off like it did with Dead Mages on the Shores, I would bring it back, and make the social networking site for geeks purely open source, with API's, project management, and among other things, a chance for the community to seriously focus upon the site as a whole, and contribute features, abilities, etc, and all of the coding would be via a GNU license.
So we could all focus on writing tools for you to use, make a profit with, then if things don't work out, get told how we ripped you off or did you wrong on Internet forums? No thanks.
Interesting how these half-wit Microsoft conspiracy types get +5 Insightful when the site also supports OSX and Firefox.
I'd say a Mac running OSX and Firefox is a much larger enemy to Microsoft than Linux is, given the install base, but what do I know?
If you turned your "artistic statement" into a Slashdot comment and it would get modded down as "Troll", it's not a particularly good statement. Keep thinking.
I would not consider things which are mod-worthy on slasdot being of much value anywhere except slashdot. Most of the +5 Insightful writings on here would get you laughed out of any sort of face to face debate in the majority of settings.
I agree with you. Those crazy people who think people will act out video games should get ready for me to dress up in a pirate outfit and go around stabbing people in the back with a 3 foot long dagger, /dancing and /giggling the whole time.
(World of Warcraft PVP, world ganking people 50 levels lower than myself for fun)
Well, this is for a company who is getting one of the better day care services and the employees are making over $70k a year on average.
If they require day care on this magnitude, both parents probably work, and the way the cookie tends to crumble is usually a spouse making around the same, so assume a household income of $140k a year.
Then, you get a tax deduction on each kid at the end of the year, which turns into a few thousand more dollars.
More people need to pay attention to this stuff when they make fun of the US being in recession. It's at a low and we can still afford to blow thousands a month on things we really don't _need_. ;)
Don't worry, conservative AM talk radio will harp about any popular case for weeks in an attempt to make any liberal judge or jury sound like terrible people. They'll get the word out for you.
More games is not necessarily better games.
With exception to Asteroids and Space Invaders, since they are from a time when you could count the number of machines in an arcade on two hands, none of the greats, like Mario, Sonic, Pacman, etc would have likely happened without the potential for big money and it took many companies making thousands of forgotten titles for these diamonds to appear.
BUT mostly the more money corporates see in a product range, the more product they will produce of same type.
Companies are sales driven. If they make a lot of sales doing something, they continue until sales begin to taper off.
Take FPS: Wolfenstein gave way to CoD, MoH, Crysis, and Doom gave way to Unreal, etc., was there any real innovation along? Like a hardware, software combo (Glove and Glock)?? Nope.
The innovation in FPS games is in the network capability, level of graphics, artwork, etc. For instance, Quake was earth-shattering in comparison to any shooter prior to it. The innovation there was the magical coding that allowed a slow PC to actually allow one to navigate a 3D world. Had the potential to make a lot of money not been there, Carmak probably would have gone and signed up for a DARPA project or somewhere there was a potential to gain resources from his skills.
I would rather see the game industry try to innovate rather than suing and kicking their customers off. ...and please stop calling it "piracy": No one has any idea what a pirate means and how the British Common law dealt with "real" pirates on high seas.
They aren't really cracking down much on the random joe nicking a rom off usenet, this guy made nearly half a million dollars off their intellectual property. This, to me, is a bit different.
I don't know, it tends to be pretty big news when someone is found innocent of a crime such as murder.
Then again, there's many, many murders that happen which get absolutely no press beyond a line in the police blog section of the news paper. Not everything gets covered, or cared about, like OJ and Nancy Holloway.
So, does some happy medium exist?
Not likely. It's not one of those things where you can pick a gray area, since you can't partially disclose the identity or the crime, it's all or nothing.
I'm all for the freedom of information in this regards. If the locals are too immature to handle themselves, then that's their problem.
Guess which one Google catches?
Both?
Well, he isn't getting 15 years for stealing a game. He's getting 15 months, most of which will probably be suspended, for stealing Nintendo's property and selling it illegally. This has nothing to do with someone just making a backup of a game they purchased. This is the type of activity those laws were written for, not the simple joe downloading Mario off usenet and running it with an emulator for personal use.
Try and think of it as if you had written or bought the rights to a number of books in the 80s, all to have some chump come along a few years later, put them all into a set and sell unauthorized copies. I doubt you'd be happy about this.
Your average drunk driver makes his way home safely, so there's not much reason for stiff penalties unless the person does manage to cause damage and this is the case. Whether booze is unhealthy or not isn't an issue, since we are responsible for our own choices. MADD would disagree, but their level of crazy is starting to get old to even lawmakers.
Let's also not forget unauthorized systems like this have the potential to devalue the vconsole goodies for the Wii. I'd rather classic games maintain their value so they'll have higher chances of getting support on modern systems.
Then again, I've bought all the non-free games I've played in the last decade. I _WANT_ the game industry to have money so more games will come out. I do not want the game industry to slow down because people feel copyright does not apply to them, expecting people to spend millions of dollars developing games for free? Nope. Things don't work like that, unless you can cite an open source game project that is remotely on the average PC or console gamer's radar.
He would have gotten a base sentence of three years and similar fines in, say, India. (S. 379 of IPC)
It also appears that country keeps trying to completely prohibit booze..
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/435/indiacourt.shtml
Perhaps you should experience freedom and move to the country in your name, thus escaping the cruel, upside down nature of US law. ;)
What always makes me wonder about these crimes... what did he think was going to happen? I guess this sentence is good if it stops other, completely clueless, individuals from doing this same thing.
He probably spent too much time posting on Slashdot, arguing about how IP should be nobody's property, got modded +5 Insightful so many times that he thought he could use the same arguments in a court room.
I'd like to think that, anyway :)
Alright, someone got modded Interesting for being funny here.
Hard drives are not destroyed by a virus. Only the data on them is.
CPUs are not destroyed by mathematical computations, otherwise there would be many wiped out by bugs in code every day.
"InterNet" :)
Sort of like the silica packets that come in boxes of stuff. "DO NOT EAT." WTF sort of brain dead moron went out and bought an appliance, found said packet, and decided that the company had been nice enough to include a handy snack, at it, and thus justified that warning label? Just let them go... The world will be a better place for it.
I think many of those labels are for children. Those little packets do look like some kind of sugar beans and may topple out of the appliance's box and end up on the kitchen floor, or stuck between sofa cushions with a bunch of other yummy morsels.
Yes, if it is boring, it's smartest to just throw in the towel. During my stint playing I saw a number of people in my guild who had stuck around far longer than the game was fun to them. This resulted in them being quite combative and random personalities, I assume, from boredom or frustration.
If nothing else, I believe Blizzard will forever hold onto your character's data after the subscription runs out. I figure, if this is true, I may pop back in for a few months at some point in the future and be "mid level" at 60. :)
The gold values you mention are madness compared to the world I was familiar with. My favorite way of making money, albeit not the most effective, was to find a good fishing buddy and head off to a high level zone between auction postings and try to catch some higher value fish and cook up fancy things to sell. Rogues were decent fishermen in dangerous areas, and enemy players would often just wander up, sit down, and start fishing too, since it sucks to wear your fishing gear, wondering when that heavily loaded ambush is going to happen.
I considered private servers, but I really want to play in a high population, pvp enabled, environment. Has anyone gotten a decent population with one like that yet? If so, is there much trouble with GMs not allowing the same freedoms as Blizzard GMs typically allow? Not that I spent a lot of time corpse camping and repeatedly raping people in cloth, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. ;)
I don't know, but this sub thread was about iChat, which depends on about 3 gigs of encrypted code, the majority of which only the dark Apple overlords knows what goes on inside of.
Telephone networks, network switches at your ISP, cell phones, gmail, name servers, and non-local web servers all have code invisible to the end user.
So, we might as well get paranoid enough to shun all modern communications technology if we are going to get our panties in a wad over a single closed source program.
In the us unlimited broadband may be going away and isp's like comcarp do don like steaming video.
Please. In the 80s it was going to cost extra for a modem to use a phone line. Now it's "oh noes, broadband isn't going to be unlimited anymore!".
The Internet here is not an extension of the government or a communist party. They are independent companies who will advertise "unlimited" services as they wish, unless something happens to disrupt the model. That hasn't happened, only Internet speculation has happened.