I recall a lot of folks ((in my circle of musician friends) with apple computers) saying that the music they downloaded from iTunes (when it first was launched) was kinda 'muddled' sounding, many blamed the copy-protection as doing it.
Or is it just the encoding into an mp3 that does this? Any comparisons between the other `legal' music downloads and the end-quality of sound?
Just curious. I personally buy CDs still, except for the old blues/british invasion stuff that's out of print or never made it past vinyl.
review of all the new Panther features which states that the 150 odd features added are so good that calling it a 0.1 upgrade is not fair.
and then:
Gripes include the $130 price tag
Sorry. Not everything is for free. Especially a commercial product from a proprietary hardware/software vendor.....and the (somewhat) lack of backward compatibility."
I've heard this is par for the course with Apple, but i didn't say that because i'll get modded down as a troll.
Sun has good things going for them but they need to expand into new areas and take another look at the current situation.
Seriously. I still think SUN is a good company and they have the potential to rise and be great again, but they've really let themselves languish over the years. I would hate to see them (or SGI) go away. But they need to make some changes, and do it fast, since it's getting close to being too late.
The fact that they simply "give away" the OS for cheap (i actually got my copy for free from Sun) kinda makes me think they've only released the x86 version to make it "available" to more poeple.
The more people that are familiar with Solaris, in theory, the more Admins/IT staff will end up recommending SUN hardware/software at their workplace. It's a marketing strategy. Not a pervasive strategy, but a strategy nonetheless.
Um, if the computers won't work in the shipping dept. set them aside while the/.er's fix 'em and revert back to what you did BEFORE you had the things in the first place and just back-enter the data when they're working.
Yeah, but when they power the computers back up, we'll probably find that the/.'ers have um.. *cough* modified some of the distribution addresses.
Wait, so every drop of alcohol in the entire state goes through one warehouse, and the state is in charge of running this warehouse? And this seemed like a good idea?
I was thinking the same thing, but trying to get modded Funny++ seemed more appealing, for some reason.
Netcraft confirms that the Bleagured Slashdot is Dying....
For seriously, yes. Not only have i noticed much fewer posts to articles, but much less modding up, or even modding at all in many articles. Even those posts desperately deservant of it.
Do you think a Windows XPer or Mac OS 9er would know what the hell a man page is? BSD by default has a command line interface. That's enough to scare away 90% of windows users. Mandrake is a much better newbie OS than BSD.
I guess they (WinXP/Macos9 users)probably wouldn't. Now that you mention it, the OS X users that keep rubbing it into my face that they are "Hardcore UNIX users with a High-End UNIX Server on the desktop" really don't either. But i guess we could also (to their credit?) say that they're playing in a different market segment than we are. As far as Mandrake, i haven't messed with it in a long, long time, so i don't know if it's 100% "Defanged" (read: CLI-Free) yet. I think you still have to open a terminal emulator and start typing to do some things. It's not like OS X or WinXP where the user *never* has to see a CLI. But then, Linux and the *BSDs can do a bunch of tricks that WinXP and even OS X can't.
Or maybe i'm just not the typical n00b. I was horrified by win95 (specifically the GUI) when i first encountered it (my prev. computing experience was 1980's with the C= +/4). Thenagain, i imagine i'm not completely alone in this. CLIs scare away everyone's grandma and girlfriend, but there's always that 10% of the population that eventually gravitate towards a linux or a *bsd type OS. Our brains are just wired this way, whether we like it or not. Lo and Behold! Here we find ourselves on/. posting comments about UNIX-like OSes.
It's not really an epiphany, but these days it seems so much easier and more efficient to go do a simple edit to a text file in/etc or a dotfile in the user directory as opposed to stepping through some GUI Wizard or configuration utility.
I'm not saying this to sound all condenscendingly elitist, either. Not only do wizards use up lots of resources (and have dependencies that add cruft) i think we eventually reach a point where oversimplification of a user interface will overcomplicate the program being interfaced.
Really, doing stuff from the command line 'just works'.
And one might argue that FreeBSD is easier to use because documentation is more focused.
As both a Linux and FreeBSD user i will say that I actually find FreeBSD to be easier to use. Even to a n00b. A lot of it is that the documentation is beautiful, but a lot of it also is that FreeBSD is "simpler" and "cleaner". Linux seems a little more crufty and complicated.
I still like them both though, and i abhor Windows and MacOS (yes even X).
I really like FreeBSD. I seem to be spoiled though using such *bleeding edge* apps (read: firebird/latest gaim/gnome2.4 etc) like i do with linux. Last time i checked out 5.0-CURRENT (Apr, iirc) it had older Apps than even the Stable release. I CVSupped my ports and found some of them broken, and also had some troubles installing things just from source code (bleeding edge problem, not Fbsd problem admittedly).
In the last few days, looking at the packages in the 5.1 Release it looks like things have been updated some, so maybe i'll check it out this weekend.
However, i will say that aside from X apps and "non-essential" package version availability and things that the actual FreeBSD system is a pure joy to use. From documentation, to straight-forwardness to the beautiful console font and non-blinking cursor, i love FreeBSD!:)
In other words, this is a giant LOSS for Open Source initiatives. Just when we were getting businesses and employers to look at open source software and operating systems, etolling the benefits of looking at the source code, it's now illegal for them to look at the source code for their employees.
I mean, if -I- owned my own business, i'd want to be DAMN SURE that my new hires didn't have any infringing IP in their genes.
The iMac?! Your troll-bait would have been SOOO much better without that. I guess I shouldn't mention that I typed the original post in Safari...:-P
Hey, I've actually heard that one before. Many times. Even about an eMac. Don't get me wrong, Apple computers are decent, and OS X is the best thing ever to happen to their hardware, but there are a lot of (clueless) mac zealots spew at the mouth some pretty over-exaggerated stuff.
Which is too bad. Even though it's just a fraction of the Apple community that does this it really makes it hard for me to want to look at Apple hardware.
Sure, linux (and BSD, and Microsoft, and...) have their zealots too... but some are easier to take than others.
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I recall a lot of folks ((in my circle of musician friends) with apple computers) saying that the music they downloaded from iTunes (when it first was launched) was kinda 'muddled' sounding, many blamed the copy-protection as doing it.
Or is it just the encoding into an mp3 that does this? Any comparisons between the other `legal' music downloads and the end-quality of sound?
Just curious. I personally buy CDs still, except for the old blues/british invasion stuff that's out of print or never made it past vinyl.
First it says:
....and the (somewhat) lack of backward compatibility."
review of all the new Panther features which states that the 150 odd features added are so good that calling it a 0.1 upgrade is not fair.
and then:
Gripes include the $130 price tag
Sorry. Not everything is for free. Especially a commercial product from a proprietary hardware/software vendor.
I've heard this is par for the course with Apple, but i didn't say that because i'll get modded down as a troll.
Oh well. FreeBSD 4.9 comes out today! w00!
I BETTER see one of these warnings on the outside of a M$ OS box!!
You'll get:
WARNING: Installation of parts of this product may create a security risk. Details inside.
And of course, you open it, you bought it. etc. blah pish...
(btw, that's all in caps up there)
Thanks for the info and the links :)
Sun has good things going for them but they need to expand into new areas and take another look at the current situation.
Seriously. I still think SUN is a good company and they have the potential to rise and be great again, but they've really let themselves languish over the years. I would hate to see them (or SGI) go away. But they need to make some changes, and do it fast, since it's getting close to being too late.
Was Sun really serious about Solaris on x86?
The fact that they simply "give away" the OS for cheap (i actually got my copy for free from Sun) kinda makes me think they've only released the x86 version to make it "available" to more poeple.
The more people that are familiar with Solaris, in theory, the more Admins/IT staff will end up recommending SUN hardware/software at their workplace. It's a marketing strategy. Not a pervasive strategy, but a strategy nonetheless.
If you take my meaning, mr. Frodo.
...something like:
"The Concord. Smashing the windows out of your home in that refreshingly British way since 1969"?
that's it! there's how British Airways saves the cost of scrapping the Concordes, JAM!
7 out of 10 british prefer marmelade to jam, you insensitive clod!
My supervisor (the Network Admin) is all into planes, particularly concordes. I'm sure he'd appreciate a link to this article.
But then he might know i'm reading slashdot at work!!
What's the operator precedence of brownie points again?
GPS navigation is great on the shopping cart, but all the traffic in some stores might require some stoplights at major intersections.
To be serious, however.... As often as i see stolen shopping cards around cities, it may not be such a great idea to invest so much money into them.
Oh the pain of packetstorms and packet collisions across my forehead!
Um, if the computers won't work in the shipping dept. set them aside while the /.er's fix 'em and revert back to what you did BEFORE you had the things in the first place and just back-enter the data when they're working.
/.'ers have um.. *cough* modified some of the distribution addresses.
Yeah, but when they power the computers back up, we'll probably find that the
Wait, so every drop of alcohol in the entire state goes through one warehouse, and the state is in charge of running this warehouse?
And this seemed like a good idea?
I was thinking the same thing, but trying to get modded Funny++ seemed more appealing, for some reason.
I'll one up you:
I can beowulf clusters of keggers, you insensitive clod! Shotgun on the ride to Soviet Alabama!
It's one thing when software crashes ruin your Word Document.
It's one thing when software crashes ruin your FPS gaming
It's one thing when software issues plague your job.
but please.... don't...take...away...my...beer!!
Fwiw....
I've noticed this as well.
Netcraft confirms that the Bleagured Slashdot is Dying....
For seriously, yes. Not only have i noticed much fewer posts to articles, but much less modding up, or even modding at all in many articles. Even those posts desperately deservant of it.
skimming large volumes of miscellaneous text to extract some sort of refined knowledge from it.
Like those ppl who actually RTFA and try to get "FORST PIST!!!"?
Remember, if you run 5.1, they warned you might have problems. That's why 4.8 is still recommended for production use.
;)
:o)
heh yes they did! I'm not whining nor complaining, just saying it like it is.
I asked for it, i got it.
However, i'm anticipating 4.9 with bated breath
Do you think a Windows XPer or Mac OS 9er would know what the hell a man page is? BSD by default has a command line interface. That's enough to scare away 90% of windows users. Mandrake is a much better newbie OS than BSD.
/. posting comments about UNIX-like OSes.
/etc or a dotfile in the user directory as opposed to stepping through some GUI Wizard or configuration utility.
I guess they (WinXP/Macos9 users)probably wouldn't. Now that you mention it, the OS X users that keep rubbing it into my face that they are "Hardcore UNIX users with a High-End UNIX Server on the desktop" really don't either. But i guess we could also (to their credit?) say that they're playing in a different market segment than we are. As far as Mandrake, i haven't messed with it in a long, long time, so i don't know if it's 100% "Defanged" (read: CLI-Free) yet. I think you still have to open a terminal emulator and start typing to do some things. It's not like OS X or WinXP where the user *never* has to see a CLI. But then, Linux and the *BSDs can do a bunch of tricks that WinXP and even OS X can't.
Or maybe i'm just not the typical n00b. I was horrified by win95 (specifically the GUI) when i first encountered it (my prev. computing experience was 1980's with the C= +/4).
Thenagain, i imagine i'm not completely alone in this. CLIs scare away everyone's grandma and girlfriend, but there's always that 10% of the population that eventually gravitate towards a linux or a *bsd type OS. Our brains are just wired this way, whether we like it or not. Lo and Behold! Here we find ourselves on
It's not really an epiphany, but these days it seems so much easier and more efficient to go do a simple edit to a text file in
I'm not saying this to sound all condenscendingly elitist, either. Not only do wizards use up lots of resources (and have dependencies that add cruft) i think we eventually reach a point where oversimplification of a user interface will overcomplicate the program being interfaced.
Really, doing stuff from the command line 'just works'.
And one might argue that FreeBSD is easier to use because documentation is more focused.
As both a Linux and FreeBSD user i will say that I actually find FreeBSD to be easier to use. Even to a n00b. A lot of it is that the documentation is beautiful, but a lot of it also is that FreeBSD is "simpler" and "cleaner". Linux seems a little more crufty and complicated.
I still like them both though, and i abhor Windows and MacOS (yes even X).
I really like FreeBSD. I seem to be spoiled though using such *bleeding edge* apps (read: firebird/latest gaim/gnome2.4 etc) like i do with linux. Last time i checked out 5.0-CURRENT (Apr, iirc) it had older Apps than even the Stable release. I CVSupped my ports and found some of them broken, and also had some troubles installing things just from source code (bleeding edge problem, not Fbsd problem admittedly).
:)
In the last few days, looking at the packages in the 5.1 Release it looks like things have been updated some, so maybe i'll check it out this weekend.
However, i will say that aside from X apps and "non-essential" package version availability and things that the actual FreeBSD system is a pure joy to use. From documentation, to straight-forwardness to the beautiful console font and non-blinking cursor, i love FreeBSD!
Trashmen?
You have any idea how much trashmen make?
i make a fraction of that, myself.
Woe is me.
OKAY GRACIOUS GOD DARL!!
(kekekekeke)
How about third party peripherals such as plastic hips, replacement knees, firewire hearing aides or vision correction patches?
Hell... some people even have had a quadruple-recompile on their heart.
your genes discriminate against YOU!!
;)
Sorry, couldn't help it.
(btw i'm canadian)
In other words, this is a giant LOSS for Open Source initiatives. Just when we were getting businesses and employers to look at open source software and operating systems, etolling the benefits of looking at the source code, it's now illegal for them to look at the source code for their employees.
I mean, if -I- owned my own business, i'd want to be DAMN SURE that my new hires didn't have any infringing IP in their genes.
The iMac?! Your troll-bait would have been SOOO much better without that. I guess I shouldn't mention that I typed the original post in Safari... :-P
Hey, I've actually heard that one before. Many times. Even about an eMac. Don't get me wrong, Apple computers are decent, and OS X is the best thing ever to happen to their hardware, but there are a lot of (clueless) mac zealots spew at the mouth some pretty over-exaggerated stuff.
Which is too bad. Even though it's just a fraction of the Apple community that does this it really makes it hard for me to want to look at Apple hardware.
Sure, linux (and BSD, and Microsoft, and...) have their zealots too... but some are easier to take than others.
fehsnughpish