It is already a right. The government does not GRANT rights, they can only take them away. "Quality of life".. Seriously?? Where did you read that? Contrary to popular belief, the government is charged with promoting the common good. Not providing it.
Mod up. I served in the military during a time of war. I was stationed on an aircraft carrier. I was never shot at. Am I damn proud of my service? You betcha. Am I a hero, definatley not. I have no idea how I would react to getting shot at. Would I have the courage to run forward to help a wounded man? I would like to *think* that I would...
You are correct, it was fail. I agree that non-violent crimes should not limit the ability to own firearms. I was just passionalty typing, going from the few felons that I know that I wouldn't trust with a sling shot.
No more rights!!! This is a dangerous precedent!!! We already have the right to internet access, don't you people understand???? We have the right to EVERYTHING that is not illegal. The only power the govt has is to REMOVE certain rights (which i agree with). If we run down this road of "We, the GOVERNMENT" did not "grant" the right to internet access, the whole thing falls down. Things like this scare the shit out of me. Every single law that is passed has one thing in common, it limits your rights (which, again, is a good thing, felons with guns, etc..).
If it came to war with China, they need not fire a shot. Just stop buying our debt. US would collapse. Yes, of course it would hurt China, but a lot less than they would suffer in a war.
Missed a couple. Massive health risks (lice, TB, various lung ailments, rape, assault (sexual and simple), arson threats, throwing rocks/bottles/various debris at police officers.. Let's see, what else... Oh yeah, no permits, occupying PRIVATE PROPERTY. Hell, its against the law to camp at a CAMPGROUND for two weeks, much less someone elses property. Cutting locks off church property and moving your protest there..
Other than that it's almost angelic..
Your facts do not fit scenerio. There is really only one scenerio that this will be remotely usefull. Incoming Nuclear attack.
9-11, Katrina were both localized events.
Millions heard it because millions were listening for it having it drilled into thier head for the last several months.
They will add another method soon. They want the president to have the authority to take over phone, internet, cable and every other form of communication that it's citizens use. Biggest question is, why?
Paranoid crazy here:
Never let your tank go below half. I keep 20 gallons with Sta-bil in the garage. Avoiding spring lock in the magazine, you can half load. There is some debate, but I've not had any issues keeping 25 in a 30 round magazine. Strongly recommend not shooting from your car. Way too freaking loud.
Still don't buy it. Nuclear explosion? Yeah, that'll be noticed. Most likely by all the folks that immediately go with out power. Anyone it helped would be dead. Major earthquake? Unless there is a warning system that I'm unaware of, they best they can say is, "in case you haven't noticed, and are not dead, the ground is shaking". Not many hurricanes in Ohio, so good there. We have sirens for the local weather patterns.
in short, it sounds good on it's face, but other than that, we're already covered.
Why does this exist? I've seen the party line about katrina, 9-11, etc.. As I recall, every news channel, radio station, news site was flooded with real time. Why would we need to hear from the president? There are like 200 microphones in the white house, all he/she has to do is let the networks know he's talking in 5 minutes...
This has already been accomplished by the free market, what possible purpose could it serve?
I served 5 years, USN, I would agree with this. A non-perfect way to determine is what they went in for, and how long they stayed. First couple of years, especially if your a grease monkey or infantry type your pretty jaded for the first 3-4 years. Your comments mostly apply to below E-5.
The gear that I used (Air Traffic Control) was built in 1973, same year I was born. Ash trays were part of the actual radar gear, so as far as new tech.. Besides some isolated pockets, it's WAY behind.
Side note: Loading the ATC software was aluminum punch tape on a spool. So accurate on automated landings, that they had to put in a deviation to keep tail hooks from hitting the exact same spot on the flight deck every time.
Two things.. You are much less likely to experience work place violence from a Vet. 'Nother thing. I was Navy Air Traffic Controller, USS Theodore Roosevelt (Carrier).. Just curious, how do you define high-stress? Can't print?
It's a trick question.
It was written to protect the citizens from thier government.
No other ways to achieve the same goals.
Hopefully will never become useful. Definatley should NOT be repealed.
The Legislative Branch, under authority validated by the Judicial branch, issued a subpoena to the Executive Branch for those documents. The Executive Branch remained consistent by ignoring the constitution and saying "whatever".
The investigation would reveal that a government project is over budget and long overdue. What's to investigate? This happens on pretty much every project.
I'm confused. What's the point? I mean, I don't care that they are doing it, whatever, but why? When would you need to alert the entire country to get into thier basement? War and some kind of space event only two things that come to mind..
So I agree it was unethical for the company to sell them software.. We all get that. Libya got all thier weapons from the EU (italy, germany,france, UK). The U.S. just did a 60 billion dollar arms package with Saudi Arabia. Attack helicopters to Turkey (so they can get revenge against the Kurds. Half the shit we blew up in Iraq was American made. These are GUNS AND BULLETS, not software. Hell, last year (13 months ago) we did a 5 year multi million dollar arms package with PAKISTAN (you know, the stuff that's killing our guys in Afganistan?). Which is a 30% increase in our past arms deals with Pakistan. Half the middle east is armed by the United States directly or indirectly (with things that have no other purpose than to kill another human being), and your getting bent out of shape about software. Seems kind of petty when you put out a couple hundred BILLION dollars worth of US/EU/Russian weapons that went out in the last few years or so.
I'm an idiot because your arguing a different point (which i agree with oddly). My point is that it's not up to the individual business to decided who is nice enough to buy thier technology. If Nokia sold them equipment/technology that was against U.S. policy, then by all means, prosecute. Use your own examples, They are all illegal. What Nokia did was legal. I take issue with some business practices, but I'm also going to call bullshit when I see it. GE paid no taxes so GE=bad. Why? Did they follow all current tax laws? Yes? Did they get write downs for losing thier ass the year before (shh.. it's a secret), yes. Ask yourself, "Can Krogers decide to not sell food to Muslims?". In short, if you want something illegal, make it illegal. BTW, as the IDIOT of the group, can you point out, in any way the part of your post the refutes mine?
I know your trying to take a shot, but to answer your question, yes. When did a company become responsible for governments using/misusing thier technology/product? Our own govt. (U.S.) uses Sun boxes and Cisco switches to monitor ME. Think the US government isn't using similar software/hardware to monitor dissidents (Occupy Wall Street, Tea Party, Neo Nazi, etc..). It's a snow job blaming big companies (which is all the rage today). It reminds me when global warming fired up, even the traffic reports changed: Before global warming debate: "Intoxicated man ran over a pedestrian." After: "Intoxicated driver's SUV ran over a pedestrian".
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It is already a right. The government does not GRANT rights, they can only take them away. "Quality of life".. Seriously?? Where did you read that? Contrary to popular belief, the government is charged with promoting the common good. Not providing it.
Mod up. I served in the military during a time of war. I was stationed on an aircraft carrier. I was never shot at. Am I damn proud of my service? You betcha. Am I a hero, definatley not. I have no idea how I would react to getting shot at. Would I have the courage to run forward to help a wounded man? I would like to *think* that I would...
In the United States, we had the right by default. In our form of government, you can only take away people rights, you can't grant them.
You are correct, it was fail. I agree that non-violent crimes should not limit the ability to own firearms. I was just passionalty typing, going from the few felons that I know that I wouldn't trust with a sling shot.
No more rights!!! This is a dangerous precedent!!! We already have the right to internet access, don't you people understand???? We have the right to EVERYTHING that is not illegal. The only power the govt has is to REMOVE certain rights (which i agree with). If we run down this road of "We, the GOVERNMENT" did not "grant" the right to internet access, the whole thing falls down. Things like this scare the shit out of me. Every single law that is passed has one thing in common, it limits your rights (which, again, is a good thing, felons with guns, etc..).
If it came to war with China, they need not fire a shot. Just stop buying our debt. US would collapse. Yes, of course it would hurt China, but a lot less than they would suffer in a war.
Missed a couple. Massive health risks (lice, TB, various lung ailments, rape, assault (sexual and simple), arson threats, throwing rocks/bottles/various debris at police officers.. Let's see, what else... Oh yeah, no permits, occupying PRIVATE PROPERTY. Hell, its against the law to camp at a CAMPGROUND for two weeks, much less someone elses property. Cutting locks off church property and moving your protest there.. Other than that it's almost angelic..
Your facts do not fit scenerio. There is really only one scenerio that this will be remotely usefull. Incoming Nuclear attack. 9-11, Katrina were both localized events. Millions heard it because millions were listening for it having it drilled into thier head for the last several months. They will add another method soon. They want the president to have the authority to take over phone, internet, cable and every other form of communication that it's citizens use. Biggest question is, why?
Paranoid crazy here: Never let your tank go below half. I keep 20 gallons with Sta-bil in the garage. Avoiding spring lock in the magazine, you can half load. There is some debate, but I've not had any issues keeping 25 in a 30 round magazine. Strongly recommend not shooting from your car. Way too freaking loud.
Still don't buy it. Nuclear explosion? Yeah, that'll be noticed. Most likely by all the folks that immediately go with out power. Anyone it helped would be dead. Major earthquake? Unless there is a warning system that I'm unaware of, they best they can say is, "in case you haven't noticed, and are not dead, the ground is shaking". Not many hurricanes in Ohio, so good there. We have sirens for the local weather patterns. in short, it sounds good on it's face, but other than that, we're already covered.
Why does this exist? I've seen the party line about katrina, 9-11, etc.. As I recall, every news channel, radio station, news site was flooded with real time. Why would we need to hear from the president? There are like 200 microphones in the white house, all he/she has to do is let the networks know he's talking in 5 minutes... This has already been accomplished by the free market, what possible purpose could it serve?
I served 5 years, USN, I would agree with this. A non-perfect way to determine is what they went in for, and how long they stayed. First couple of years, especially if your a grease monkey or infantry type your pretty jaded for the first 3-4 years. Your comments mostly apply to below E-5. The gear that I used (Air Traffic Control) was built in 1973, same year I was born. Ash trays were part of the actual radar gear, so as far as new tech.. Besides some isolated pockets, it's WAY behind. Side note: Loading the ATC software was aluminum punch tape on a spool. So accurate on automated landings, that they had to put in a deviation to keep tail hooks from hitting the exact same spot on the flight deck every time.
Two things.. You are much less likely to experience work place violence from a Vet. 'Nother thing. I was Navy Air Traffic Controller, USS Theodore Roosevelt (Carrier).. Just curious, how do you define high-stress? Can't print?
Let government decide non-government employee pay.. What could possibly go wrong?
It's a trick question. It was written to protect the citizens from thier government. No other ways to achieve the same goals. Hopefully will never become useful. Definatley should NOT be repealed.
Why was it written? Any (all) candidate(s).
The Legislative Branch, under authority validated by the Judicial branch, issued a subpoena to the Executive Branch for those documents. The Executive Branch remained consistent by ignoring the constitution and saying "whatever".
The investigation would reveal that a government project is over budget and long overdue. What's to investigate? This happens on pretty much every project.
I'm confused. What's the point? I mean, I don't care that they are doing it, whatever, but why? When would you need to alert the entire country to get into thier basement? War and some kind of space event only two things that come to mind..
On my block, Tornado warning = grab beer --> block party. Pretty much anytime there is a thunderstorm, sirens go off.
So I agree it was unethical for the company to sell them software.. We all get that. Libya got all thier weapons from the EU (italy, germany,france, UK). The U.S. just did a 60 billion dollar arms package with Saudi Arabia. Attack helicopters to Turkey (so they can get revenge against the Kurds. Half the shit we blew up in Iraq was American made. These are GUNS AND BULLETS, not software. Hell, last year (13 months ago) we did a 5 year multi million dollar arms package with PAKISTAN (you know, the stuff that's killing our guys in Afganistan?). Which is a 30% increase in our past arms deals with Pakistan. Half the middle east is armed by the United States directly or indirectly (with things that have no other purpose than to kill another human being), and your getting bent out of shape about software. Seems kind of petty when you put out a couple hundred BILLION dollars worth of US/EU/Russian weapons that went out in the last few years or so.
I'm an idiot because your arguing a different point (which i agree with oddly). My point is that it's not up to the individual business to decided who is nice enough to buy thier technology. If Nokia sold them equipment/technology that was against U.S. policy, then by all means, prosecute. Use your own examples, They are all illegal. What Nokia did was legal. I take issue with some business practices, but I'm also going to call bullshit when I see it. GE paid no taxes so GE=bad. Why? Did they follow all current tax laws? Yes? Did they get write downs for losing thier ass the year before (shh.. it's a secret), yes. Ask yourself, "Can Krogers decide to not sell food to Muslims?". In short, if you want something illegal, make it illegal. BTW, as the IDIOT of the group, can you point out, in any way the part of your post the refutes mine?
I'm just jealous of the people that do have a trying when 99% of us don't have a trying. Not fair.
I know your trying to take a shot, but to answer your question, yes. When did a company become responsible for governments using/misusing thier technology/product? Our own govt. (U.S.) uses Sun boxes and Cisco switches to monitor ME. Think the US government isn't using similar software/hardware to monitor dissidents (Occupy Wall Street, Tea Party, Neo Nazi, etc..). It's a snow job blaming big companies (which is all the rage today). It reminds me when global warming fired up, even the traffic reports changed: Before global warming debate: "Intoxicated man ran over a pedestrian." After: "Intoxicated driver's SUV ran over a pedestrian".
Howard the Duck will land in Clev-Land and start doing hot chicks.