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Slashdot Asks: Whom Do You Want To Ask About 2012's U.S. Elections?

For the next year, it will be hard to escape the political season already in full swing in the U.S., as candidates aim for the American presidency (and many other elected positions). There will be plenty of soundbites and choreographed photo-ops to go around. Candidates will read speeches from TelePrompters, and staffers will mail out policy statements calculated to inspire political fealty to one candidate or another — finding unscripted answers from most of the candidates is going to be tough. Slashdot interviews, by contrast, give you the chance to do something that interviews in more conventional media usually don't: the chance to ask the questions you'd actually like to have answered, and to see the whole answer as provided. But there's a hitch: we need to know which candidates or other figures we should attempt to track down for a Slashdot interview. So please help narrow the field, by suggesting (with as much contact information as possible, as well as your reasoning) the people you'd like to hear from. It doesn't need to be one of the candidates, either: if you know of a pollster, a campaign technical advisor, an economist (or even a politicians's webmaster, say) who should be on our list, make the case in the comments below. And if you represent or are affiliated with a particular campaign, that's fine — but please say so. We'll do our best to find a number of your favorites in the year to come.

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  1. Al Franken by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hate to be cynical and say that it doesn't really matter, since no politician is ever going to give you an honest or useful answer anyway (any written response won't even written by them, just some staffer, you know). But I will suggest one of the VERY few politicians at the top who actually seems to give a modicum of a shit about freedom, the little guy, and all that jazz. From his well-known editorial on why he supports net neutrality to his fight against contractors and for regulation of the financial industry, Al Franken seems to be one of the few people in Washington interested in something more than just padding his pocket.

    I would be particularly interested to hear more on the Net Neutrality issue, since he seems to be one of the only politicians, Republican or Democrat, actively supporting it.

    Yes, he is a little batshit from time to time and prone to saying some crazy shit. But in his defense, they did a LOT of coke on SNL back in the day. He's lost a few brain cells. Poor Chevy Chase is MUCH worse.

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    1. Re:Al Franken by Saishuuheiki · · Score: 1

      I would second this, but for the reason that I believe he is one of the few politicians that actually seem to follow what's going on in the world of computers and software

    2. Re:Al Franken by fortapocalypse · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why? Because he's good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, people like him.

    3. Re:Al Franken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ron Paul tells it like it is period, no lies, no bullshit. Heed his warning now while we still have a chance at the thing not becoming much worse than it already may be... into a bigger disaster.

    4. Re:Al Franken by countertrolling · · Score: 1

      Sad as it may be, Al Franken has very little real influence on policy, and unless he toes the party line, he will never acquire any. Yeah, he will go through all the motions, but he will accomplish little while looking good to the voters. If you want to get the straight dope, you need to talk to a mafia chieftain or anybody else way up high in the contraband business. All the rest are just mannequins. Good luck!

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    5. Re:Al Franken by tbannist · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've always found Ron Paul tells it like he thinks it should be based on his theories. Personally, I've always found his theories don't match up well with reality.

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    6. Re:Al Franken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Ah yes, Ron Paul; the fellow who wants to shut down any federal agency not involved in killing foreigners. Education, science funding, medical care, environmental protection? Screw 'em, all we need is to be able to kill people. THAT makes for a great country: one built on the corpses of its enemies, real or imagined.

    7. Re:Al Franken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps, but at least Franken was funny at one time.

    8. Re:Al Franken by nharmon · · Score: 0

      Ahh yes, Senator Franken's brilliant editorial on why allowing mobile carriers the ability to block certain types of network traffic will cause Comcast to block Netflix from its subscribers.

    9. Re:Al Franken by LateArthurDent · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, Ron Paul; the fellow who wants to shut down any federal agency not involved in killing foreigners. Education, science funding, medical care, environmental protection? Screw 'em, all we need is to be able to kill people. THAT makes for a great country: one built on the corpses of its enemies, real or imagined.

      You do realize you're talking about the guy who voted against the war in Iraq and has been consistently saying we need to bring troops home and stop having overseas military bases in places that don't want us there, right?

      He wants us to have defensive capabilities, but he wants to cut down on the military budget by quite a lot as well. Which I personally think is a really bad idea along with most of the other stuff he wants cut. That said, I do respect the man a hell of a lot. He knows he can't possibly win with his severely non-mainstream views. That doesn't prevent him from saying what he believes. Attack Ron Paul's proposals on their merits all you want, but you can't attack his honesty. He truly cares more about being honest than he does about winning, and that makes him a rare breed of politician, one that we truly need more of.

    10. Re:Al Franken by Toonol · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is, it sounds like Ron Paul is probably vastly closer to your position on war than any other candidate.

    11. Re:Al Franken by sleigher · · Score: 1

      I used to agree with you. But now, too many things he said in that past are blatantly true. Not that he would be a great president, I don't think he would, but I will not dismiss his ability to see what's ahead.

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    12. Re:Al Franken by writeRight · · Score: 1

      Ron Paul. In particular I would like him to explain why he thinks freedom is good - freedom from a private cartel central bank and freedom to hack electronics as I see fit.

    13. Re:Al Franken by slapout · · Score: 1

      Why? Because he's good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, two out of three ain't bad.

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    14. Re:Al Franken by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      If you like Franken, listen to the Thomm Hartman radio show on Friday mornings. Bernie Sanders is on every Friday at 9am (pst) for one hour.

    15. Re:Al Franken by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Ron Paul tells it like it is period, no lies, no bullshit

      My granddad also told it like it was, no lies, no bullshit, and he's only been dead about 4 years longer than Ron Paul.

      You're gonna listen to a guy who names his kid "Rand"? I understand his first choice was "Fountainhead" but his wife put her foot down. He'd have gone with "Atlas" but the ferret already had that.

      And last but not least, never trust a man with two first names.

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    16. Re:Al Franken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like him...well other than being okay with him taking a good stance on Net Neutrality.

    17. Re:Al Franken by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Neither do any political philosophy. We are all sums of of our experience thus any philosophy probably will not work for an other group.
      The people who tend to vote republican are either Business People or live in Rural areas, because for this group of people government is seen as a liability to their lively hood and their peers. Other then keeping the roads clean and safe most of their services do not effect them, except in their pocket.
      The people who tend to vote democrat are usually Government/Non-profit workers or live in Urban Areas, because this group sees government as a benefit to their livelihood and to their constituents.
      The democrats distrust the republicans because they see their view as being greedy and not willing to help the general public.
      The republicans distrust the democrats because they see their views as being moochers who want them to pay for everything.
      Republicans do not need to be greedy, actually they tend to donate a lot of their time and services to the less fortunate (more then democrats).
      Democrats do not need to be moochers, they often work hard doing what they need to live. They are just asking for more support from more people.
      Democrats are dumb because they treat business like a plague and make enemies of them, forcing them to be sure not to follow any of their causes.
      Republicans are dumb because they treat government services poorly, not realizing that some sectors cannot be done profitably. so we need government to fill the gap.

      The Religious nuts tend to be Democrat or Republican they just change with the times.

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    18. Re:Al Franken by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 1

      His official name is Randall. Randall shortened it to Rand much like a Steven would shorten his name to Steve.

    19. Re:Al Franken by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Randall shortened it to Rand much like a Steven would shorten his name to Steve.

      Steven didn't shorten his name to Steve to honor a hack neofascist writer with serious daddy issues.

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  2. Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There will be plenty of soundbites and choreographed photo-ops to go around. Candidates will read speeches from TelePrompters, and staffers will mail out policy statements calculated to inspire political fealty to one candidate or another — finding unscripted answers from most of the candidates is going to be tough. Slashdot interviews, by contrast, give you the chance to do something that interviews in more conventional media usually don't: the chance to ask the questions you'd actually like to have answered, and to see the whole answer as provided.

    Oh they won't have teleprompters for a Slashdot interview? So what? Every single candidate or person working for a candidate are going to do the following:

    1. Assess Slashdot's core demographic (young white males with liberal leanings).
    2. Go to their "cheat sheets" and select the well tailored response to each topic at the appropriate slot of the political scale to garner the maximum number of votes from said demographic.
    3. Read questions, refuse those that cannot be filled with square peg or easily deflected.
    4. Spend a tiny amount of time reframing each question as the first part of the response until it is a seamless transition to the copy/paste of their advisers' maximized stock spiel or merely deflect it (hey, this isn't a debate you just have to bob and weave out of one round).

    This isn't my first rodeo. Seriously, watch a candidate's speech in BFE one-horse-town North Texas one day and then their speech in yuppie concrete jungle Manhattan the next day. They will skirt issues and spew half truths that are almost (but not quite, it's an art) in direct conflict with their message at another locality. How do you maximize votes? Why settle for those localized maxima with the same speech in two different demographics when a massive overhaul will win you the campaign? Why do you think they have teams of speech writers? If you campaigned on one consistent platform through the country, you're dead in the water. The only way to win is to lie by omission or worse.

    Oh and if you think that a webmaster of a politician is going to be allowed to answer questions in regard to that politician's campaign, you can forget it. A person with a STEM background interfacing in a Q&A for someone's campaign?! Are you daft? No no no no, nobody is going to allow that. The phrase "talking points" was made for a reason. Can you imagine that conversation? "Hey, I know I designed your website for your campaign, now I'm going on a news site to represent your campaign to potentially anybody -- I mean if I really fuck up this could be on Colbert or something. Wish me luck!"

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    1. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by khallow · · Score: 2

      This isn't my first rodeo. Seriously, watch a candidate's speech in BFE one-horse-town North Texas one day and then their speech in yuppie concrete jungle Manhattan the next day.

      And there you go The solution to the problem you present. Don't treat the Slashdot version in complete isolation, but rather see how it meshes with the rest of the speeches that the candidate gives.

    2. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there you go The solution to the problem you present. Don't treat the Slashdot version in complete isolation, but rather see how it meshes with the rest of the speeches that the candidate gives.

      Right and at the end of the day, every politician is giving some version of the patronizing message to each demographic! Slashdot will be no different!

    3. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by tbannist · · Score: 2

      Interestingly, Canada's current Prime Minister campaigned with a single speech which he repeated verbatim (down to the times at which he took a sip of water during the speak) every time he gave it. He gave the exact same speech twice a day every day for over a month (and won).

      Another interesting thing that happened in the recent Ontario election, was one of the provincial engineering institutes sent a request to each party for an explanation of their policies on power generation. One party chose not to answer at all, one party sent a feel good message that amounted to "we like power and we'll figure out when we win the election", and the third party sent a detailed break down of things that they had planned for the next four years. Sometimes, a smaller venue will get good and relevant information from a political campaign.

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    4. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by khallow · · Score: 2

      Right and at the end of the day, every politician is giving some version of the patronizing message to each demographic! Slashdot will be no different!

      If a politician is telling us what we want to hear, then that's a bit of information. It's also possible that they haven't given a great deal of thought to issues that concern Slashdot readers. This sort of Q and A can get them to think about and make decisions on these sorts of issues.

      An example from the Obama administration was their original stance on NASA, namely, that they advocated transferring funds from NASA to education projects. Once space advocates heard about that, the policy changed and has remained so.

    5. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by Ltap · · Score: 1

      I'm curious, which parties did what?

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    6. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, Canada's current Prime Minister campaigned with a single speech which he repeated verbatim (down to the times at which he took a sip of water during the speak) every time he gave it. He gave the exact same speech twice a day every day for over a month (and won).

      Don't forget the effort they put in to discrediting the leader of the opposition for months in commercials.
      Also how good party #3 did, now party #2.
      The majority of Canadians did not want our current PM, but with the first past the post system...

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    7. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by thewiz · · Score: 1

      Assess Slashdot's core demographic (young white males with liberal leanings).

      That's a bit racist and sexist. Frankly, everyone here looks green to me.

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    8. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by tbannist · · Score: 1

      The Prime Minister is a Conservative, of course.

      On the provincial scene, the Conservatives didn't answer, the New Democrats gave vague answers and the Liberals gave specifics.

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    9. Re:Distilled Pessimism Squeezed into a Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear you. I don't think Pennsylvania hasn't quite forgotten that "it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations" comment when he spoke in San Fransisco so shortly after being out here. It seems like the internet and media help to police this tactic a bit (eg: Pennsylvanians were not amused to hear that while watching the news) but "true believers" (for any party) probably don't look for that type of thing and likely wouldn't falter even if it kicked them in the face.

      Still, I think I'd probably go with Obama (not like you could get him). I'm not an enormous fan (for reasons other than his mocking my state) but he's probably going to win so it'd provide a nice opportunity to push him on things like software copyright, keeping the government from playing "big brother" and his VP's unfortunate relationships with the likes of the RIAA and MIAA. Not that I'd believe anything he says but, like I said, he's probably going to win so what he says matters more than some well-intentioned representative from an alternative party.

  3. To all candidates by kimvette · · Score: 1, Troll

    I'd ask this of all/any candidates:

    Why do you disagree with Ron Paul's approach of restricting government's role to what is proscribed by our legal framework (the Constitution), and why do you insist on violating the Constitution when a remedy exists in the form of constitutional amendments?

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    1. Re:To all candidates by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think Ron Paul's answer would be a little dull. ;-)

      The thing is you can ask this but I can predict what the answer will entail.

      Basically, it will all boil down to the fact that we "need" government to do these things because otherwise terrible (but generally vague) things will happen. The government is responsible for providing for the general welfare and all these things it does directly benefit the general welfare, QED.

      Do you want your schools to fall behind in the technology arms race, or to turn out graduates who lack sufficient self-esteem? Do you want people living out in the street and starving while Senators feast on suckling pigs and roast immigrants? Do you want evil corporations using their mind-control rays or poisoning your pets with nuclear waste and crooked accounting? Do you want terrorists sneaking in your house and stealing your healthcare? Do you want Iran nuking your right to bear arms and freedom of speech? Or evil Wall Streeters selling your children to drug lords to pay for their SUVs that run on stem-cells?

      Of course, it doesn't matter that in each case the government is either addressing the wrong problem, or addressing the right problem but completely failing to do anything to make it better. The important thing is that We Do Something (TM)! If the problem isn't getting better than we need to do something faster, harder and with more money.

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    2. Re:To all candidates by ZamesC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1) Because the Constitution is not nearly as restrictive as Ron Paul would have us believe. It does enumerate a number of specific powers, but adds "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers" which allows for much latitude to what is allowed to do.

      2a) because there is no violation.
      2b) because requiring an amendment (which requires several years at a minimum to pass) for the normal day-to-day actions of the Congress, which so gridlock the national government, as to force to destruction. (IOW, Why do you hate America?)
       

    3. Re:To all candidates by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Basically, it will all boil down to the fact that we "need" government to do these things because otherwise terrible (but generally vague) things will happen.

      Sometimes, but many times government does these things because terrible things HAVE happened and are likely to happen again.

      The 1929 stock market crash, bank failures, and depression resulted in legislation that reformed banking. Unfortunately, the politicians don't study history and undid those regs, resulting in the 2008 crash and the Great Recession.

      Social Security was started as a result of dire poverty among the elderly. It was the reaction to something bad that had already happened.

      The 2006 welfare reform package was to counter generational welfare Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society and War On Poverty wrought. Again, something bad had happened and they fixed it.

      Deregulation? Yeah, tell that to the dead miners in West Virginia. Tell that to any of us who were alive before the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act.

      You only get stupid laws and regulations when you elect stupid or corrupt politicians; the overreaction to 9-11 and the loss of civil liberties afterwards is a good example.

    4. Re:To all candidates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Honest answer if I were one of the respondees: "Because I don't, you moron. Ron Paul's interpretation of the Constitution is not canonical. Perhaps it would be helpful if you REALLY studied some political and legal history before you became a mouthpiece for a guy who is really just a puppet of the health care industry?

    5. Re:To all candidates by bberens · · Score: 1

      I would ask this of any of the conservatives.

      I hear an awful lot from conservatives about lowering taxes and reducing regulation. I live in a world where in order to fly my grandma has to get groped at the airport, there's government monitored cameras on every decent sized intersection, domestic assassination of US citizens carried out by our government, I need permission from government regarding who I might enter into a financial contract with (marriage), what chemicals I may or may not put into my body and in what quantities, the list goes on and on. Forget about taxes for a moment, which candidate is going to deregulate *me*?

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    6. Re:To all candidates by ghjm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not just ask if they've stopped beating their wife? The way you ask the question allows for no reasonable answer. The correct answer is that the Constitution rightly endows the Supreme Court with the power to interpret and explain its provisions, that this power has been used since the dawn of the Republic, and that Ron Paul's reading of settled law as "unconstitutional" is simply a method of pandering to his supporters. And furthermore, that the US Constitution is itself a flawed document, containing provisions which are no longer supportable or even ethical in the modern age (most notably, the three-fifths of a man compromise).

    7. Re:To all candidates by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Because the constitution is a living document and changes with the ages, I think is the standard answer.

      I think Ron Paul is a little crazy in more than one way, but he certainly gets that part right.

    8. Re:To all candidates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why do you disagree with Ron Paul's approach of restricting government's role to what is proscribed by our legal framework (the Constitution), and why do you insist on violating the Constitution when a remedy exists in the form of constitutional amendments?"

      Why ask that question when we all already know what their reply will be?

    9. Re:To all candidates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So you're saying, "Because it's hard to do stuff if we followed the rules."

      That's a pretty poor response.

    10. Re:To all candidates by kimvette · · Score: 1

      And furthermore, that the US Constitution is itself a flawed document, containing provisions which are no longer supportable or even ethical in the modern age (most notably, the three-fifths of a man compromise).

      Nice straw man, but that was addressed when slavery was abolished using lawful means, i.e., a constitutional amendment. Let's see, shall we?

      Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865. History

      1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

      2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

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    11. Re:To all candidates by polar+red · · Score: 1

      which candidate is going to deregulate *me*?

      That depends: are you in the top 0.01% ?

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    12. Re:To all candidates by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Because the constitution is a living document and changes with the ages, I think is the standard answer.

      It's a bullshit answer designed for skirting the Constitution, when there is already a mechanism which allows for changing with the times as needed:

      Article. V.

      The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

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    13. Re:To all candidates by ghjm · · Score: 1

      It isn't a straw man. It shows that the attitudes, beliefs, morals and values of the framers of the Constitution were not in line with what we now believe to be correct.

    14. Re:To all candidates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The law was settled prior to it's bastardization and expansion of the commerce clause in the 30s. Why can't it be reinterpreted now?

    15. Re:To all candidates by NortySpock · · Score: 1

      We can either bypass the Constitution and get a mostly working government in a few days, or we can wait the 3-to-6 months it would take (and all this while putting up with the associated media frenzy) to try to pass a Constitutional Amendment. This would happen every time we need a change.

      This is like needing to upgrade the generator at the only powerplant in town to cope with rapid increases in demand: either we can have an hour of downtime while we disconnect the governor and a few safety switches so we can run it hotter, or we can have a month of downtime while we swap out the generator, the turbine and most of the steam piping. Every time we need to upgrade.

      Do you want to explain to the people why they have to go without power for a month, every year? No? I didn't think so.

    16. Re:To all candidates by Desler · · Score: 2

      Nice straw man,

      Except it's not a strawman. Strawman doesn't mean "said something I disagreed with".

    17. Re:To all candidates by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Again, there is a mechanism for fixing what is broken: pass and ratify a Constitutional Amendment. It really is that easy!

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    18. Re:To all candidates by ghjm · · Score: 1

      There is also a mechanism for determining the intent and interpretation of the Constitution: Get a decision from the Supreme Court. It really is that easy!

    19. Re:To all candidates by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Maybe clarify the constitution (gasp, heresy to suggest it's not perfectly clear!). Ie, does the constitution define the maximum powers the government has, the minimum powers it has, or exactly the powers it has?

    20. Re:To all candidates by KiltedKnight · · Score: 1

      The government is responsible for providing for the general welfare and all these things it does directly benefit the general welfare, QED.

      Wrong. The government is responsible for providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare. The government is not responsible for providing for the general welfare.

      Despite what Supreme Court rulings over the years may imply, the words "provide" and "promote" do not mean the same thing.

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    21. Re:To all candidates by djlowe · · Score: 3, Informative

      It does enumerate a number of specific powers, but adds "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers" which allows for much latitude to what is allowed to do.

      What you seem to be missing is that there is an amendment that specifically states that if the power isn't granted in the Constitution then the Federal Government does not have it, and that it then passes to the states or to the people

      The 10th Amendment:

      "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

      So, while I agree that the Federal Government has latitude in passing laws for those things over which it has authority, it has none at all over those over which it does not.

      The Constitution isn't supposed to be cherry-picked: It's a comprehensive document that is supposed to be taken as a whole to determine what the limits of Federal power are.

      And if you actually read the Constitution and its Amendments, you'll be surprised to discover how few rights the Federal Government has really been granted.

      Regards,

      dj br

    22. Re:To all candidates by djlowe · · Score: 1

      does the constitution define the maximum powers the government has, the minimum powers it has, or exactly the powers it has?

      Sure it does. The minimum and maximum powers are those enumerated in the Constitution and its Amendments, and those are exactly the powers it has. Nothing more, nothing less. There's a reason that the 10th Amendment was included, you know.

      Regards,

      dj

    23. Re:To all candidates by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      We can either bypass the Constitution and get a mostly working government in a few days, or we can wait the 3-to-6 months it would take ... to try to pass a Constitutional Amendment. This would happen every time we need a change.

      Three to six months? Historically, six months is more of a minimum. Most existing amendments took about a year to be ratified, and some took several years. It takes a while for an entire society to soberly evaluate the implications of further empowering the government at the expense of the governed.

      Anyway, if passing a Constitutional amendment is what it takes for the government to do something legally, then by all means they should wait until the amendment is passed rather than sacrificing their hard-won cloak of legitimacy by taking illegal actions beyond their designated powers. Their Constitutional powers are the only thing distinguishing them from any random group of powerful thugs, and they're a flimsy enough source of legitimacy as it is. They can always pass an amendment to speed up the process if it's really a problem, though the need to achieve consensus from the governed (with the states as proxies) before rushing headlong into tyranny is, on the whole, a positive aspect of the existing Constitutional revision process, not a handicap, and not something I'd care to see bartered away.

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    24. Re:To all candidates by ZamesC · · Score: 1

      No, I'm saying the founding father recognized "the rules" you imagine as being ridiculously restrictive, and never imposed them on the government.

    25. Re:To all candidates by Thargok · · Score: 0

      1) Because the Constitution is not nearly as restrictive as Ron Paul would have us believe. It does enumerate a number of specific powers, but adds "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers" which allows for much latitude to what is allowed to do.

      2a) because there is no violation.
      2b) because requiring an amendment (which requires several years at a minimum to pass) for the normal day-to-day actions of the Congress, which so gridlock the national government, as to force to destruction. (IOW, Why do you hate America?)

      What are the qualifications of necessary?

      How does this not fall in line with enumerated powers? That's like saying "you" (the government) have the right to drive a car and therefore have the right to put gas in it, not that "you" (the government) have the right to disobey traffic laws.

      An Amendment could be completed in 15 minutes in the modern era, it likely wouldn't due to the varying natures of state legislatures, but your statement is a blatant exaggeration.

      Also for thousands of years the "national" government merely collected taxes for war, regional governors maintained basic functions of government. So it isn't like national gridlock really does much of anything, if anything the national legislature has been in gridlock for it's entire history. Even before the Capitol Building was completed the federalists and antifederalists were still at each others throats. Hell, Judicial Review was a product of the tenions of the era.

    26. Re:To all candidates by Hatta · · Score: 1

      The correct answer is that the Constitution rightly endows the Supreme Court with the power to interpret and explain its provisions

      Yes, interpret and explain. Based on their expertise in the law. The way the court has ruled in recent years has been extremely partisan, and has quite frankly jeopardized respect for the rule of law. After seeing how it works I frankly have none anymore. The social compact that made law worth respecting is broken.

      that Ron Paul's reading of settled law as "unconstitutional" is simply a method of pandering to his supporters.

      Your reading of facially incorrect decisions as "settled law" is simply a method of denying that there's a serious problem with our democratic republic.

      And furthermore, that the US Constitution is itself a flawed document, containing provisions which are no longer supportable or even ethical in the modern age (most notably, the three-fifths of a man compromise).

      Indicating that we haven't had a Constitutional Convention in far too long.

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    27. Re:To all candidates by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      [Regarding whether or not a Ron Paul interpretation of the constitution is a good idea (regardless of whether he's right or wrong about the framer's intent)]

      requiring an amendment (which requires several years at a minimum to pass) for the normal day-to-day actions of the Congress, which so gridlock the national government, as to force to destruction.

      What the hell is so restrictive about "several years" when you're talking about the feds getting into totally new areas? Issues drag on for decades anyway, and granting Congress broad powers over some particular topic once would allow Congress to address that topic without needing passage of more amendments. With a few words, it's settled. The country's day-to-day needs wouldn't be impacted at all. If you look at Article 1 Section 8, it's pretty vague about how Congress would go about implementing its powers; it just lets them do it. All sorts of things which are currently excused by the catch-all "interstate commerce" combined with "necessary and proper" clauses could easily be handled in the same way, with an explicit grant of power (or handled by the people or states not granting that power).

      When was the last time anyone worried about the constitutionality of the day-to-day actions of Congress in establishing post offices or providing and maintaining a navy? The explicit power in the constitution works perfectly for those kinds of things (or else it works perfectly bad and you're advocating amendments to take those powers away ;-).

      Ideas like a national sales tax, national health plan, drug war, etc are so old that generations have been born and died since they first came up, with your own great grandparents probably squabbling about the constitutionality back when they were idealistic and young. And you're worried about "several years" being too short of a time to decide whether or not its Congress' problem to deal with?

      What the hell could Congress possibly do, that we haven't already had 20 years to talk about, wage internet flame wars over, and finally settle on and pass an amendment to authorize them being The One Entity who has to address the topic? Are you worried about something just totally bonkers and unanticipated, like an alien invasion or an asteroid or nova or -- damn, everything I can even fathom, would be a sudden threat from space -- where the country would just have to suddenly set policy in a new unforeseen area?

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    28. Re:To all candidates by ghjm · · Score: 1

      Funny how none of the Ron Paulies seem to mind when the "partisan" Supreme Court comes out with decisions that favor their positions. If you don't like Roe vs Wade, just come out and say it - don't hide behind this farcical mask of constitutional respectability.

    29. Re:To all candidates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You open one end of the spectrum but do not close the other. Are you apologising for a Congress and Executive who have used the interstate commerce clause and (your cited) "necessary and proper" clause to clearly exceed the enumerated (and hence bounded) responsibilities listed in the Constitution?

      The idea that other tasks might require an ammendment which -- you are right, might take a long time to pass -- and even might be denied, is deliberate. These are things the Federal Government shuld not be doing.

    30. Re:To all candidates by buddilla · · Score: 0

      At least someone knows how to read The Constitution the way it was meant to. I usually tell people that as they read the constitution remember that it is a legal contract describing what the federal government can do. While anything outside that is something it can not do. It makes less room for broad interpretations.

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    31. Re:To all candidates by buddilla · · Score: 0

      No, we are worried that a total collapse of the dollar will happen within that time which will cause a even deeper global depression. That's why Ron Pauls deep cuts and auditing the fed is so important and need to happen now not 10 years from now.

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    32. Re:To all candidates by buddilla · · Score: 0

      Hey man don't start calling people names. Us RP supporters are supposed to educate not belittle. Remember you weren't always privy to the truth either.

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    33. Re:To all candidates by buddilla · · Score: 0

      I don't like Ron Paul's stance on abortion but he is right that it is a states issue. Then again it really shouldn't be anyones issue except for the person carrying the baby. But thats up to the states. Although I do believe there should be a term limit on abortion. Other than that I'm for Ron Paul. Most of the policies he wants to throw out are unconstitutional for the federal government to make laws on. He technically not legalizing or legalizing them he making them a states issue which is where they belong. Local governments have always been better at figuring out local issues.
      RON PAUL 2012

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    34. Re:To all candidates by buddilla · · Score: 0

      Cus of answers people give like this one.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeTqozPhKEQ

      Ron Paul 2012

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    35. Re:To all candidates by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      You know that. I know that. Try telling Washington.

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    36. Re:To all candidates by Politburo · · Score: 1

      The phrasing appears in two locations, but it is slightly different.

      In the Preamble, which is generally regarded as cruft, the phrase is "in order to.. promote the general welfare".

      In Article I, Section 8, outlining the powers of Congress, the phrase is "The Congress shall have the power.. to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." It's this section that the Court uses.

    37. Re:To all candidates by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Holy crap.

      Constitutional changes (e.g. a "Balanced Budget Amendment") might help prevent the collapse of the dollar, but they are not needed. If the financial system can be saved, it can be done so without anyone exceeding the simple-layman plain-reading of the constitution.

      And frankly, even if President Ron Paul needed to exceed his legal powers to do something, of all the candidates running for office, that guy (except for maybe Gary Johnson, but probably not) would be the last one to actually do so. If you want "Ron Paul deep cuts" then passing amendments quickly enough is not something you're worrying about.

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    38. Re:To all candidates by YetAnotherBob · · Score: 1

      I think you have Ron Paul confused with Barak Obama. They have different views.

      Ron Paul is the one who thinks that half of the government should be abolished. No, not the defense department, though he would like to pare it down to the size that Eisenhower wanted, basically just the sargents and officers (Who will spend most peacetime playing insipid games while the sargents really run the Army like they always do), with a small core of soldiers for the officers to command for the Army, and keep the Navy, though about a third of the ships could be just placed in storage. Air Force about half way between Army and Navy. Marines, they are part of the Navy.

      No, it's the rest of the government he would like to be rid of, The IRS, the Welfare, Education and such like departments. Anything that doesn't pay for itself. He believes that around half of what the Federal Government does is unconstitutional. That half is what he really wants to eliminate. He would have no trouble achieving or surpassing President Obama's goal of eliminating 1.4 Trillion Dollars from the Federal Governments budget. He would probably eliminate twice that.

      If any of that is wise is another question entirely. So also is the question of if he could actually DO any of it.

      Barak Obama on the other hand wants to expand entitlements (Money the Government promises to give people and corporations). He is the candidate that believes that when you are in debt, the way to get out of debt is to spend more money. After all, -1-1=2 right? To be honest, he probably learned this sort of math in the Senate. That is how Senators seem to think. It doesn't appear to matter which Party they officially belong to.

      Also, to continue to be honest, Barak Obama like George Bush (2) before him has most of his problems stemming from action outside the US, or from acts of Congress. Like Bush, he is more a victim of the Pelosi-Reid congress than anything else. Presidents get blamed for everything, and they appear to have a great deal of power, but reality is that they mostly respond to external events and are charged with implementing whatever the House of Representatives and the Senate can sort of agree on saying should be done.

      Sorry, that is the job description according to the US Constitution. The President can push and cajole and plead and bargain, but can't just spend arbitrarily or pass their own laws or programs. A US President is much more a COO than a CEO. A President is more a manager than an autocrat. That doesn't mean that some of them don't act like autocrats or even Kings (Andrew Jackson comes to mind). Both the best and worst Presidents appear to have been in office in the 1800s, no matter what Glen Beck says.

      No, Barak Obama's presidency is really just about what the Pelosi-Reid Congress said to do. It takes a little over a year for the changes in congress to take effect. So, we will see the effects of the Bohner-Reid Congress by next summer. But, no President in the US ever has a really free hand. The press of course ignores this, and the majority of citizens don't even know it. After all, how many do you think have ever read the US Constitution? Of those, how many do you think understood it? If we take the comments here on Slashdot as typical for the population as a whole, the answers to both questions fall somewhere between very few and none.

      However, for the purposes of the actual header for this fine but pointless debate, Barak Obama, definitely. He is running. On the other side, Mitt Romney, as the assumed future victor for the Republicans. The others all seem to be self destructing. Except Perry, who having already self destructing is now trying to destroy everyone else.

      Perhaps Hermann Cain too. He sounds interesting. Maybe not credible, but interesting. Sort of like Joe Biden that way, though not wrong as often.

      Any of the others who are declared would be nice.

      Maybe even Sarah Palin (Yeah, I know she's not even running, but, Obama campaigned mostly against George Bush when HE (Bush) wasn'

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    39. Re:To all candidates by YetAnotherBob · · Score: 1

      This 'DeRegulation you so fear and hate is not what you think it is.

      The Government didn't stop regulating. They haven't done that in the Financial markets since 1912. The Government didn't stop regulating the Mining industry. They haven't done that since the early 1920's. The Government didn't stop regulating telecoms or any of the other monopolies.

      What they did was to let the fox guard the henhouse. The Fed is after all a private company run by a few large banks. It should be no surprise that they act to support those same large banks. The fed is in fact overseen by people from the same large banks.

      Much the same is true of the Stock Markets and the equities exchanges. Who are the Regulators? Bernie Madoff was one once. Doesn't that give you a nice warm feeling? He was watching out for you. Just like Ken Lay once did.

      The same is true for most monopolies. When Microsoft was convicted of antitrust violation under Bush (the trial was started under Clinton), Microsoft was allowed to write the settlement they wanted. Before you start to go and Bushbash, remember that six years earlier, the same thing happened under Clinton. Both sides are equally at fault.

      Who regulates the railroads? Railroad executives who are on temporary loan to the Government. Who regulates the Medical field? The Doctors Union (AMA) supplies people to the Federal Government.

      The problem isn't that there is no regulation, or that it has been somehow disabled. The problem is in how it is being implemented. Sorry, but we have had that problem all the way back to the Grant Administration in 1868.

      The Stock Market was regulated when it crashed in 1929. It just wasn't regulated well. The Banks were regulated in 1930 when so many failed, they just weren't regulated well. The Electrical Energy Markets weren't unregulated when the Enron manipulation caused the collapse of the energy availability market in 2001, it just wasn't regulated well. The Housing Mortgage Market wasn't unregulated when it collapsed in 2009, it just wasn't regulated well.

      Some of these were the result of action by the regulated organizations, some were the result of large players who knew what the results would be, and some were the results of acts of Congress. Some were "D. All of the above."

      Do you see a pattern here? Perhaps we should consider having someone other than industry insiders or Congressional profit takers doing the regulating?

      And so it goes. The Fox really is the Hen house guard. And no one is held responsible.

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    40. Re:To all candidates by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Overregulation is as bad as underregulation. True, they never stopped regulating banks, but they changed the regulations in a bad way, allowing banks to do what they were formerly prohibited from doing.

      Ken Lay was empowered by deregulation of California's power industry. No, they didn't remove all regulations, but they removed the wrong ones, leading to blackouts, brownouts, and Lay & company's criminal endeavors.

      The problem isn't that there is no regulation, or that it has been somehow disabled. The problem is in how it is being implemented. The Stock Market was regulated when it crashed in 1929. It just wasn't regulated well.

      My point exactly.

      Perhaps we should consider having someone other than industry insiders or Congressional profit takers doing the regulating?

      Publically funded elections are the only way I know of to solve the problem. When bribery is legal, the rich man gets what he wants. For ours to truly be a government of, by, and for the people (and not the corporations or 1%ers), we have to outlaw "contributions" to candidates.

      Somehow I just don't see that happening.

    41. Re:To all candidates by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Too bad no one in power has read the Constitution this way for many decades.

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    42. Re:To all candidates by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      It'll never happen. I'd love to see a law that no one can donate more than 100 dollars to a candidate and that companies can't donate at all. Never happen because the people who do campaign "reform" are the candidates. It's corrupt and it's not going to get better. It's only going to get worse and worse until the country collapses. After the ensuing chaos we'll get something different. I don't know if it'll be better but it'll be different.

    43. Re:To all candidates by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Gridlock is good. No action by congress is almost always better than action. They seldom if ever improve things, instead they simply make it worse.

    44. Re:To all candidates by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      They read it. They just interpret it differently.

  4. Ask Diebold by Etz+Haim · · Score: 5, Funny

    Need to explain? ;)

  5. Slashdot Should Interview... by jmd · · Score: 2

    Chris Hedges.

  6. Ron Paul by Daniel_is_Legnd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think he given fair representation by either side of the media and is simply labeled as radical and crazy.

    1. Re:Ron Paul by kimvette · · Score: 1

      . . . when his only fault is believing the Constitution means what it says and says what it means. He is the only candidate so far who considers our legal framework to be more valuable than toilet paper.

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    2. Re:Ron Paul by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Informative

      In all fairness, that's because he is radical and crazy.

      Which is not necessarily a bad thing, when compared to "arrogant and stupid" or "two-faced and disappointing"

    3. Re:Ron Paul by Daniel_is_Legnd · · Score: 1

      Good point. Maybe what the system needs is some radical and crazy.

    4. Re:Ron Paul by kimvette · · Score: 0

      In all fairness, that's because he is radical and crazy.

      If by "radical and crazy" you mean believing the Constitution means what it says and restricting government's role to that which is proscribed by the Constitutional, then you're right.

      But then, when you live in an insane world and you yourself are sane, it means you are insane, if the working (as opposed to dictionary) definition "sane" is "the status quo"

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    5. Re:Ron Paul by Kethinov · · Score: 1

      That's because he is radical. I don't think he's crazy, but the man makes most of the rest of the Republican party look liberal by comparison. Nobody's going to vote for him for the same reason no one will vote for Dennis Kucinich. Too far from the center.

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    6. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we already understand Paul and know why his ideas make sense, then why do we need to interview him? Let's interview someone that we struggle to comprehend, like everyone else.

    7. Re:Ron Paul by BlackSheep121 · · Score: 1

      I second this. The guy is pretty much the only candidate who won't throw you a rehearsed, BS party line, and makes more sense than anybody else I've heard so far.

    8. Re:Ron Paul by GungaDan · · Score: 1

      Ron Paul does not want to start a war with Iran for no good reason, therefore he is unelectable.

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    9. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      He may be radical to the status quo, but he's anything but crazy. I served in the Army for over 8 years, and have had opportunity to talk to several CIA analysts, and have heard many station chiefs basically echoing everything Ron Paul says about foreign policy, all that in addition to my first hand experience of how this shit we're doing doesn't work and coming to the same conclusions. As far as monetary policy, it's anything but crazy. Google/ Read Hayek's "Use of knowledge in society" http://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/hykKnw1.html (it's short and easily read) as well as "A free market monetary system" http://mises.org/daily/3204. Ron Paul is far from crazy, and once you start to learn more, you'll find it's the other way around.

    10. Re:Ron Paul by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      But then, when you live in an insane world and you yourself are sane, it means you are insane, if the working (as opposed to dictionary) definition "sane" is "the status quo"

      That's crazy talk, man.

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    11. Re:Ron Paul by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      They may not be the same rehearsed Republican/Democratic lines, but all I have ever heard from him is well rehearsed lines. Everything I have heard from him is very black and white, and is completely closed to any compromise, argument, logic or additional information. He already knows all he needs to know and is proud of it. If you like the current republican gridlock where nothing gets done, because no one is willing to compromise, then choose Ron Paul for prez, he will not compromise and being out of line with the other parties, nothing will get changed.

    12. Re:Ron Paul by wstrucke · · Score: 1

      Personally I don't consider his polling at 12% in the early states as "nobody". He's only far from center because of how insane our contemporary center is. I suspect we could use a little more respect for the Constitution and a little more respect for our individual rights as human beings.

    13. Re:Ron Paul by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Good point. Maybe what the system needs is some radical and crazy.

      Hell, anything has to be better than the Hope and Change we got last time....

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    14. Re:Ron Paul by bberens · · Score: 1

      While I agree that Ron Paul is opposed to compromise I think that he regularly welcomes debate and logic. When he's allowed to participate he often destroys other Republicans in the televised debates. I would also argue that compromise is the antithesis to principles. You don't negotiate principles like whether the Constitution allows the government to do X,Y,Z. You negotiate on the details of things which are allowed within the framework of the Constitution but not about core values.

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    15. Re:Ron Paul by propagare · · Score: 2

      He isn't treaded fair by the media.
      He won a straw poll - no coverage. Another candidate get coverage for a second place. WTF?
      He appears to have consistent principled integrity as Jon Stewart already mentioned. He speaks the same for 30 years and nobody was listening.

      I admit the more I read from him the more I think I understand his point of view. And it makes sense all though it is not comfortable.
      I also know: He is the only veteran within the presidential candidates and will bring the troops home.
      Ron Paul cured my apathy in politics as an skeptical atheist. His voting record is as far as I know 100% pres-team. He never voted against the constitution. He is telling the truth about the war on drugs as well as about the foreign policy.

      Imho these are examples of impressing grass root videos that might make you start to re-think your politicial believes:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoqY6CpgpSE
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA (2008)

      "Let it not be said that we did nothing." Ron Paul, he is imho necessary.

      At all I don't allow MSM to choose my presidential candidate.

    16. Re:Ron Paul by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Lest we forget, our Constitution was radical and crazy IN THE BEGINNING. It was CREATED THAT WAY, AND ON PURPOSE.

      Even today, rights being inherently endowed within the people of a nation is not al that common, and a nation's constitution specifying WHICH powers are invested in the state and that ALL OTHERS are therfore invested in the people is also not all that common.

      Our nation was founded to be radical and crazy, compared to the norm then. And it still is, so much so that there are significant factions within our nation that take up the fight to deny us our rights, as enumerated in our Constitution, and do so to re-form us into the image of other nations that were, even when we were founded, constituted very differently than we were and are. Some of those same nations are still very different than us.

      Ron Paul goes slightly overboard for my taste. Not in his philosophy, but in his intended practice. Disband the Federal Department of Education, absolutely. Disband the Federal Department of Energy, maybe not. Disband FEMA, well, that takes some planning. He's close, very close, but he's also honest about his intentions. Mix in a little restraint, and he would be a winner, but then he wouldn't be Ron Paul.

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    17. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His only fault? I find plenty of other faults. Such as his opinions on abortion, that prayer in public schools should be legal and flag desecration should be illegal. Or, you know, his direct opposition to net neutrality.

      But let's not let any of that get in the way of a good story.

    18. Re:Ron Paul by kimvette · · Score: 1

      His only fault? I find plenty of other faults.

      Such as his opinions on abortion

      Okay, so the amendment ought to be added to the Constitution to allow the murder of an unborn baby, overriding anti-murder laws. I see no problem there. Good luck getting it passed though. But if you do, I'm sure Ron Paul would enforce the law as it is written. :)

      that prayer in public schools should be legal

      Note there is a distinction between prayer being legal, and prayer being required. Per the first amendment, student-initiated prayer is always, always legal in school. Staff/faculty-initiated prayer and religious events though, may not be, especially if it is compulsory for students to attend.

      and flag desecration should be illegal

      Maybe it should, maybe it shouldn't but it's not outlawed by the Constitution, so if he says it should be illegal as the law stands now, I would say he is incorrect on that point, and if he feels strongly about it, he should getting Congress to pass an amendment banning flag desecration. So you are right on that point, but honestly that is really picking a tiny nit in the scheme of things in a world where we are engaged in illegal wars, illegal searches of US citizens, illegal harassment of protestors, illegal taxation, wasting of taxpayer funds on foreign aid, questionable subsidies for agriculture, banking, and pharmaceutical industries, and on and on.

      Or, you know, his direct opposition to net neutrality.

      Where does the Constitution give authorization for the government to enforce net neutrality? I suppose this is one area where the Commerce clause of the Constitution would apply, but that is iffy at best. Again, such modernization would require an amendment to the Constitution to legally achieve.

      And, what is wrong with sticking to laws? We have become a lawless nation with our politicians operating by the seat of the pants, ignoring the law on whim, and relying on layer upon layer of "case law" (basically, eloquent hand-waving in court) to justify their claims. It's all bullshit and needs to be swept away with, because it has led us to bankruptcy as a nation.

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    19. Re:Ron Paul by djlowe · · Score: 1

      significant factions within our nation that take up the fight to deny us our rights, as enumerated in our Constitution

      The Constitution does not enumerate the rights of the states or the citizenry, it enumerates the rights of the Federal government.

      The 9th Amendment:

      "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

      The 10th Amendment:

      "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

      Honestly, I don't know where people get the idea that the Constitution grants citizens rights - it does not. It recognizes a few of them, explicitly, and also explicitly states that those recognized are not all that there may be.

      Regards,

      dj br

    20. Re:Ron Paul by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      I agree with you for the most part, but by debate and logic he does more of a presidential debate where we each repeat our position. Not a debate where we lay out the facts and choose a results based direction. He is definitely a expert at defending his positions, and boiling everything down to a very simple platform that leaves the other side with no response. Honest intellectual arguments will not win in a presidential type debate like he is willing to engage. Examples of his logic debates are seen in his evolution arguments, basically he says evolution is only a theory with weak evidence, as far as he knows, but that doesn't matter because he doesn't need to know about evolution and government shouldn't be involved in science. Try to debate on evolution alone his answer is yep, I have no idea I don't care doesn't matter. Similar with the gold standard his position is a complete joke because paper money is such a small potion of our economy and shrinking, replace with gold, or make it gold backed makes no difference when everything is going electronic, and money multipliers, you will get nothing but boiling back to mismanagement, and take the fed out... Try to talk facts of money multipliers, and reserve requirements... you will get blank response only bashing on legitimate problems that sound like they would be solved by a gold standard, but mostly un-related.
      I could go on...

    21. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bad thing is that Radical and Crazy is still more sane and in support of the american people than any candidate I have seen in over 10 years.

      Most of the other candidates seem to think there are only about 100,000 US citizens (the ones running the country and it's corporations) or less and the rest are just resources to use and only pander to as a method of extracting what they can.

    22. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ron Paul does not believe in evolution.

      In a recorded Q&A session Ron Paul was asked about his stance on evolution, and answered that it is a 'theory he does not accept'.

      Initially, Paul supporters responded to this information by conceding that, sure, he doesn't believe in evolution, but it shouldn't matter because evolution has nothing to do with the president's responsibilities. After it was widely pointed out that such a line of reasoning does not work, since not believing in evolution is indicative of a failure to process important evidence and use it to come to reasonable conclusions about the world, they changed their line. Now, a more orthodox claim is that Ron Paul does believe in evolution. This claim takes a couple of forms.

      The first ignores the video I linked, and points to another at a national Republican debate wherein candidates are asked to raise their hands to indicate disbelief in evolution. Ron Paul's hand remains at his side, indicating his acceptance of evolution. We're thus left to wonder; was he telling the truth in this video, or was he telling the truth in the other video?

      The second approach claims that Ron Paul does believe in evolution, but essentially asserts that he has absolutely no idea what evolution is. It seems, according to these people, in the second video Ron Paul was saying that he does believe in evolution, whereas in the first video he was saying that he doesn't believe in abiogenesis. Abiogenesis, of course, has to do with the origin of life, whereas evolution has to do with the development of life. Not only does this imply the Ron Paul doesn't know what evolution is, it also fails to ameliorate the situation very much; "not believing in abiogenesis" means that you don't believe there exists a scientific explanation for the origin of life. This is hardly a better mode of thought.

      If you're left questioning Paul's scientific acumen, I'll leave you with this: recently, he came out expressing his support for homeopathic medicine. That is, medicine which has been demonstrated empirically, objectively, scientifically, medically, and mathematically to be utterly fake.

      Ron Paul does not believe the Constitution guarantees a right to privacy.

      This one's cut and dry; he really doesn't. He wrote so in this piece:

      Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution.

      We take two things from this:

      Ron Paul does not believe there is a constitutional right to privacy

      Ron Paul believes that state laws banning gay sex were constitutional

      This is fairly obscene on the face of it, and also provides a rather stark example of my third point . . .

      Ron Paul is an anti-federalist, not a libertarian.

      Libertarian political thought benefits from the work of John Locke. According to Locke, all people are born with natural rights to life, liberty, and property. Under Locke's conception of government, the people extend their consent to be governed in exchange for the protections of their fundamental liberties which government is able to provide.

      This does not mesh with Paul's politics. According to him, the federal government has no role in forbidding a state government to tell consenting adults how they can and cannot have sex in the privacy of their own homes. This, Paul claims, is a matter of local customs; if the good folks of Texas don't think gay people should be able to have sex, that's perfectly constitutional.

      This way of thinking is fundamentally incompatible with libertarian ethos, which holds that if a government fails to protect the right to liberty of its citizens, then it is an invalid government. This is a way of thinking which is, however, entirely consistent with anti-federalism, which holds that state governments should be of equal or greater, but never lesser, power compared to the federal government.

      Ron Paul believes that the incorporation doctrine is "phon

    23. Re:Ron Paul by buddilla · · Score: 0

      Bravo Sir
      RP2012

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    24. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In what way is he crazy?

    25. Re:Ron Paul by PaulBu · · Score: 0

      Instant Friendly Green Bubble, my friend! Why non of us have any points to up-mod the GP post???

      Paul B.

    26. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Similar with the gold standard his position is a complete joke because paper money is such a small potion of our economy and shrinking, replace with gold, or make it gold backed makes no difference when everything is going electronic ...
      I could go on...

      You can go on all you want, but you fail to understand what a gold standard is or means. A gold standard does NOT mean that you cannot have paper currency or even electronic. You can have a bitcoin economy and still base it on a gold standard. A gold standard merely fixes your money supply by denying arbitrary printing of fiat currency.

    27. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such as his opinions on abortion Okay, so the amendment ought to be added to the Constitution to allow the murder of an unborn baby, overriding anti-murder laws. I see no problem there. Good luck getting it passed though. But if you do, I'm sure Ron Paul would enforce the law as it is written. :)

      Abortion is constitutionally protected. That's what Roe v. Wade was. He opposes it. I take issue with a politician that does, just as I'd take issue with a politician that supports overzealous foreign policy. That's what we're talking about after all... whether or not someone is a proper representative.

      Note there is a distinction between prayer being legal, and prayer being required. Per the first amendment, student-initiated prayer is always, always legal in school. Staff/faculty-initiated prayer and religious events though, may not be, especially if it is compulsory for students to attend.

      We're talking about the legality of institutional prayer in public schools. I didn't think that needed clarification. That is wrong, and unconstitutional.

      Maybe it should, maybe it shouldn't but it's not outlawed by the Constitution, so if he says it should be illegal as the law stands now, I would say he is incorrect on that point, and if he feels strongly about it, he should getting Congress to pass an amendment banning flag desecration.

      Such a law would be wrong, and someone that supports censorship like that doesn't deserve my vote.

      Where does the Constitution give authorization for the government to enforce net neutrality? I suppose this is one area where the Commerce clause of the Constitution would apply, but that is iffy at best. Again, such modernization would require an amendment to the Constitution to legally achieve.

      The constitution gives congress authority to make nearly any law. If you wanted a new law that prohibits that, then that's a reasonable topic for another discussion.

      That said, net neutrality is a prohibition on allowing private interests to destroy a public resource for financial gain, and being opposed to a rule protecting that resource doesn't represent me.

      And, what is wrong with sticking to laws? We have become a lawless nation with our politicians operating by the seat of the pants, ignoring the law on whim, and relying on layer upon layer of "case law" (basically, eloquent hand-waving in court) to justify their claims. It's all bullshit and needs to be swept away with, because it has led us to bankruptcy as a nation.

      Politicians are good at one thing, screwing us while making sure it is legal. Getting rid of all our laws doesn't fix that, it makes it worse.

      All of which is largely unrelated to the fact that Ron Paul doesn't represent my interests, or those of most any slashdotter. I think that's kindof important when you're voting for the ultimate representative.

    28. Re:Ron Paul by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      Read up on "money multiplier" basically when you have 100 pounds of gold deposited into a bank, they loan it out. Eventually gets deposited again... repeat 100* With only that 100 pounds you end up with 10000 pounds deposited in the bank, and with interest 10500 owed to the bank. The only way to then recover then is a bunch of defaults,or a increased supply of gold is found. Strong government enforcement of fractional reserve system is much more important under a gold economy, not less.

    29. Re:Ron Paul by gabrieltss · · Score: 1

      Is he "radical" and "crazy" because he wants the government to ABIDE by our Constitution? If that is "radical" and "crazy" - then I'm just as "radical" and "crazy". I take the Constitution and Bill of Rights VERY seriously! OUR government does not they piss all over it at every chance they get. And that goes for BOTH parties - Democrat AND Republican! It obvious that our politicians and even some "crazies" in the media think the Constitution is a joke.

      "The constitution is just a goddamn peace of paper!"
      – G.W. Bush

      "I don't care about the Constitution!"
      - Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009

      Both these "crazy" people should just get up and leave the country if they don't like it - and so should anyone else that doesn't like it. They can go to a more suitable place then - say like North Korea, or China or Venezuala.

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    30. Re:Ron Paul by Ramin_HAL9001 · · Score: 1

      Well, to be sure, Ron Paul is stupid, but he isn't arrogant, which is an improvement. I've heard him say "evolution is just a theory", but he seems like the kind of guy who would at least hear-out scientists if he were ever forced into a position where he had to make a tough choice on education. So I would never vote for him, but I sure wouldn't mind having him for president.

    31. Re:Ron Paul by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      his position is a complete joke because paper money is such a small potion of our economy and shrinking, replace with gold, or make it gold backed makes no difference when everything is going electronic...

      Actually he acknowledges this. In his book he mentions that printing money is not how it is actually done today. It is done simply electronically. He is fully aware of how money is used electronically. That doesn't change the fact that inflating the supply should not be allowed. He is not hung up on gold either. Just that money should be backed with something of real value so it can't be artificially inflated.

  7. RMS by SIR_Taco · · Score: 2

    Yes... RMS.... just for 'shits-and-giggles'

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    1. Re:RMS by vlm · · Score: 1

      And ESR

      And Penn Gillette (Jillete?) WTF it is spelled.

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    2. Re:RMS by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      And ESR

      And Penn Gillette (Jillete?) WTF it is spelled.

      Let's see. It's spelled:

      ^T (new tab)
      ^K (focus in search bar)
      penn teller[Enter]
      ^F4 (close tab)

      So... 14 keystrokes, three of which are Ctrl-metakeys. Also known as "11 fewer keystrokes than not looking it up".

      Jillette.

      Incidentally, you could even live dangerously and skip the " teller" part of the search and the fifth Google result would still give you what you need.

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  8. Someone from 2014 by Tawnos · · Score: 0

    Slashdot has a time travel machine, as evidenced by the way some posts seem to come from the distant past to reappear in the present. So let's use that and ask the people in 2014 what the elected candidate did to determine if it's worth having them.

    1. Re:Someone from 2014 by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Hi, it's 2014 here; I'm not sure how I'm able to reach you across 2 years, but anyway things are pretty bad now. Things have gotten far worse than anyone could have imagined. There's very little electric power now, so I'm lucky to be able to post this, and doubly lucky that I can even connect to the internet. In many places around the US, there's complete anarchy and roving bands of gangs taking whatever they want. The Federal government collapsed back in '12, and things have been spiraling out of control. I'd like to tell you who to vote for in the next election, but there's not going to be an election because everything's going to collapse before that point. Sorry to disappoint. Gotta go, some gang's attacking our compound here.

  9. an economist by vlm · · Score: 2

    an economist

    An economist you say?

    How about Ben Jones
    http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/

    An how about Tyler Durden (A pseudonym, duh, but I think it would be hilarious to see the ZH response to our questions)
    http://www.zerohedge.com/

    Last but not least, George Ure, who is about 20% genius, 60% eh, and 20% nuts?
    http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

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    1. Re:an economist by codeAlDente · · Score: 1

      Tyler Durden was also my first thought. Most of the Tylers are thoroughly anonymous, so alleged contributor Daniel Ivandjiiski would be a good place to start looking IRL.

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    2. Re:an economist by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      An economist? Economics is about as scientific as phrenology. There isn't an economist alive that you can't find another economist who will call the first a gold studded liar.

      Look what happened when we put an MBA in the White House. I'm sure you need quite a few economics classes to get an MBA.

    3. Re:an economist by DeadDecoy · · Score: 1

      My personal favorites are
      Barry Ritholz
      http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/
      David Merkel
      http://alephblog.com/
      Though one might argue that they are more so stock traders than pure economists.

    4. Re:an economist by vlm · · Score: 1

      Uh, yeah, I agree with you in general, that's why if you investigated my suggestions, you'd find they're some of the few non PR/sales/marketing department paid mouthpieces out there.

      A dude whos a salesguy with an econ degree is a slimey salesguy first, and whatever degree he has is a distant second. The degree isn't whats gonna put bacon on the table...

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  10. Robocalls by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    Why do politicians always write in exemptions for themselves when it comes to legislation banning telemarketing? Do any of you twits realize how annoying incessant Robocalls are?

    1. Re:Robocalls by characterZer0 · · Score: 1

      Do any of you twits realize how annoying incessant Robocalls are?

      Of course they don't. They have their staff and help screen calls. Why don't you do that?

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  11. Romney by moorster · · Score: 1

    Since Mitt is the most likely candidate from the right I would love to hear from him (and I think he's great).

    1. Re:Romney by SteveFoerster · · Score: 2

      Well, Romney's still the most likely to get the Republican nomination, maybe. But whether he's "from the right" depends on which way the flip is flopping.

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    2. Re:Romney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?

      Since he started his campaign, he has shown that he's just like the rest of them - BS'es, flip-flops, and says whatever he thinks the people listening want to hear. It's a complete waste of time to listen to those lying assholes.

      What's the fucking point? We might as well vote for these people based on their hair and what party they represent. So, if you're a Republican and think Mitt has the best hair then vote for him. The way our system works, it's probably a more valid reason than voting based on the bullshit that comes out of their mouths.

    3. Re:Romney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is he great? Because he things universal healthcare is an awesome thing (for HIS state), but is also a terrible idea (for the country) at the same time? He's the definition of a two-faced politician. Same as the rest.

    4. Re:Romney by bberens · · Score: 1

      Nah, Romney appears to be firmly in the "states rights" camp. His state, for example, wanted Romney-care, so they voted for it and implemented it.

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    5. Re:Romney by bberens · · Score: 1

      I don't find anything two-faced about supporting states rights. Universal healthcare should be considered unconstitutional at the federal level since there's nothing in the Constitution allowing the government to create such a thing. (I personally would support a Constitutional Amendment to allow the gov't to do that, but it's a separate debate). Romney's state voted for and implemented diet universal health care and that's fine.

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    6. Re:Romney by buddilla · · Score: 0

      You might want to take a look at this then, before you go vote for him:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCmiFcRyIc
      and this
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mMKNCKihI
      Not the original but still good.

      See as a Ron Paul Supporter I still spend the time to go find out about other candidates as well as reasons to not vote for Ron Paul. Still haven't found one yet.
      Now watch these:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtdFtSAmLw
      And If you have the time try this
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm2oyUzJris

      Ron Paul 2012

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  12. The Web by jimwelch · · Score: 2

    A web site like CMS matrix (use to be) where there is a table of *ALL* issues and responses that I can compare against each other and "my views"

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    1. Re:The Web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

      We need a database of issues/responses and voting record for every public official so a score can be created... (i.e. ratemycongresscritter.com).

  13. William Shatner by fortapocalypse · · Score: 1

    The man knows all and sees all and sh*t my Dad says ran too short.

    1. Re:William Shatner by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

      Boston Legal was far better, Billy as a cigar smoking, booze drinking, gun toting, criminal creep shooting, mad-cow conservative lawyer ... made me strongly identify him as understanding US Citizens better than any C*O, politician, clergy, or Canadian (I have heard he is Jewish). I keep hoping he will return for one last big case on Harry's Law (may the large complicated case could last for a season).

      Billy was always Captain Kirk to US, until Denny Crane!

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  14. Andrew Tanenbaum by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only does Andrew Tanenbaum have a good handle on polls and vote-projection, but his nerd credentials are excellent.

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    1. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by Gerald · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seconded. His analysis running up to 2008 was spot-on.

    2. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      He did get that whole "Linux is obsolete" thing wrong, though.

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    3. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by Hatta · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be the first time the technically superior alternative failed. I'm not saying that that is the case here. I'm just saying that success and technical quality don't always coincide.

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    4. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by slimjim8094 · · Score: 1

      I was mostly kidding. I love his textbooks, and the benefits of a microkernel are obvious, but they do seem very academic (in the negative sense). There's a ton of stuff in academic CS that just isn't that useful in the real world, and microkernels are one of them. And nok OSX doesn't count, there's a ton of BSD built right into the kernel.

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    5. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by Xest · · Score: 1

      "There's a ton of stuff in academic CS that just isn't that useful in the real world"

      That depends on the quality of the person using it. Good people do use this stuff and put it to work, but they're few and far between, and for something like a whole OS, finding enough people who are good enough and understand enough why something should be done differently is much harder than finding a bunch of people who are willing to jump into and hack away at an easier to understand solution.

      There are however times where the good people do win out, where the academic is put to good use by good people, and a superior product comes along. I would argue Google's initial search engine was an example of this - it outshone the competition precisely because it put decent original academic theory into practice. You might similarly argue about the Wii - motion controls were always a cool concept but they certainly weren't new - they never worked very well in practice before, but Nintendo got it right, and implemented a good solution just as Microsoft have with controller free gaming with Kinect - and Kinect builds on a lot of VERY academic concepts that have been pushed through to fruition by some very clever people.

      I almost feel guilty using this example twice in one day, but what the hell, personally I think HTML5 is an example of what can go wrong - HTML5 makes bad markup the standard, rather than the standard being good and something people should strive to improve their abilities to adhere to. Whilst it's giving us lots of shiny new features the damage HTML5 will do with it's focus back towards non-XML parsable markup and lack of care for accessibility and so forth will IMO set the web back some years in these aspects. People may not have served XHTML as XML but it was at least parsable and that did wonders for interop, maintainability and so forth.

      I think there's a lot to be said for striving for the academic option - sure they're more difficult, but if you have the skill to pursue that option you'll produce a better produce. Settling for second best may allow you to get a product to market if your team isn't as skilled, and it may work out for you, but said products do not tend to be the sort of products that change the world, and circling back to the example of Linux I would argue that the fact Linux pursued a monolithic architecture is one of it's stumbling blocks in failing to unseat Windows to a greater degree than it has. It is by and large really the switch towards the NT kernel which borrows some microkernel concepts (even though not a true microkernel) that has allowed Microsoft to close the performance and security gap against Linux over the last 10 years.

      It is I believe the pursuit and implementation of the academic that offers the difference between evolution, and revolution. It's a high stakes road - you can lose a lot of time and money if you don't pull it off, but if you do, you'll have something new and much better to offer the world.

    6. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One problem, this is for US Presidential Candidates. To be a US President, you have to have been born in the US. That's why Arnie the Tremiinator never tried to run. Professor Tannenbaum isn't eligible.

    7. Re:Andrew Tanenbaum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one suggested that he run for president, idiot, only that he be interviewed by /. about the election.

  15. 2nd Amendment by Bardwick · · Score: 1

    Why was it written? Any (all) candidate(s).

    1. Re:2nd Amendment by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 1

      That is an excellent question. Here are some follow-ups:

      What other ways do we have to acheive the same goals in a modern society?

      Has it outlived its usefulness and should it be repealed?

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    2. Re:2nd Amendment by Bardwick · · Score: 1

      It's a trick question. It was written to protect the citizens from thier government. No other ways to achieve the same goals. Hopefully will never become useful. Definatley should NOT be repealed.

    3. Re:2nd Amendment by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 1

      In order to be effective for that purpose, citizens must be allowed to bear the same arms as their government.

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  16. Re:Who. Not whom. by mclaincausey · · Score: 0

    Don't know why this is down voted. I know we're not supposed to carp on grammar but this is a valid point.

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  17. Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next president! by identity0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given Slashdot's predilections, it is certain that the ones Slashdot likes the most will be the least likely to get elected.

    So, come join us on Slashdot to see who WON'T be the next president!

    Let us whine together about how awful and broken the system is!
    Let us propose reforms to the election system that will never be implemented!
    Let us ask obscure technical questions of candidates to the highest office in the land!

    Yes, I have been here during elections before.

    In b4 Ron Paul

  18. Andrew Tanenbaum (minix & electoral-vote.com) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Andrew Tanenbaum, of minix fame and the "votemaster" of electoral-vote.com poll tracking and political meta-commentary (or is it meta-political commentary).

  19. Now that corporations are people... by VIPERsssss · · Score: 1

    Ask GE what is the ROI for a member of congress?

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    1. Re:Now that corporations are people... by vlm · · Score: 1

      Somewhat seriously, find the top 10 political donors, they will be the ones who decide what happens anyway regardless of who wins, and ask them what they have decided for us?

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  20. Ron Paul? by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ron Paul... duh... and I'm pretty sure he'll do it to. I think his answers to slashdot questions would be very interesting indeed. I doubt any other candidate would come near this site with a 1000ft pole.

    1. Re:Ron Paul? by BiggoronSword · · Score: 1

      I think we need a more in depth explanation of his position on net neutrality, 1st amendment rights and how they will be protected on the internet while maintaining a free market.

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  21. Rebecca Mercury by cheros · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not ask Rebecca Mercuri? She is a voting expert, and if indications are correct, the last couple of voting exercises were not exactly as clean as they were supposed to have been.

    You can ask politicians whatever you want, I would suggest you become more interested in assuring that your vote actually goes where it is supposed to go.

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  22. Ask the askers.. by jasno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get a journalist from a major network and ask them why the fuck they let politicians off the hook when they give non-answers to direct questions in interviews and debates.

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    1. Re:Ask the askers.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They bend over and avoid those awkward questions so that they continue to be allowed to be "invited" into press briefings. Otherwise they get the wall of "They're too busy to talk to you, right now". Yeah, politicians are so accountable.
      BTW, this applies to my politicians here (Ireland) as much as those in the US.
      I suspect this might be covered in journalism 101.

    2. Re:Ask the askers.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're supposed to notice that. When an assho...politician gives a non-answer or a denial (like when this Republican Teabagger douche said that he didn't hold the economy hostage during the debt ceiling talks), I just remember - the asshole is avoiding the question because he's a chicken shit liar.

      I used to keep track, but it ended up that they all ended up in the bullshitter, asshole, cocksucking motherfucker column.

      And we are really to blame after all. It's WE THE PEOPLE who don't say "hey Your Honorable Lying Cocksucker, Answer the fucking question!" No. We sit on our collective fat asses and allow ourselves to get sidetracked by non-issues or small issues while our Congress is hijacked by the elite - which they're part of.

      Are we going to get tax increases along with some austerity - like what the MAJORITY of America wants? Fuck no! I guarantee you if it actually starts getting pushed, Congress will pull some turd out of their rich fat asses (Look! Abortion rights!) to distract US THE PEOPLE from our country being looted and run into the ground.

      And fuck the goddamn retards who get suckered by that shit - I'm looking at you Teabaggers and abortion fanatics.

    3. Re:Ask the askers.. by eepok · · Score: 1

      I'll agree with choosing Al Franken because the guy's intelligent and doesn't seem to pull punches (comedian's instinct).

      I'd say yes to Ron Paul because he's so unelectable that he may even respond to the Slashdot request out of desperation.

      But this one... this one above all, I want to see the most. Our political system receives 100% from the concept of the will of The People. The People are not capable of (nor have they the time) holding conversations with the candidates of the political races affecting them. Instead, The People rely on the mass media to ask the questions they need answered. It is this role, as the intercessor, that the mass media has and it never fails to blow it. I know they're afraid of the high maintenance candidates storming off the set or looking foolish thus never returning to the network... BUT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

      Given the responsibility not being met by the media in this nation, I echo the sentiment of the parent post: "Why the fuck they let politicians off the hook when they give non-answers to direct questions in interviews and debates."

      Bring us a political newscaster -- let him/her answer questions!

    4. Re:Ask the askers.. by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Oh, I love this one! :)

      "Excuse me. Mr. Romney, but with all of that bullshit that just spewed out of your mouth I fail to recognize even a smidgen of an answer to the question. Could you please answer the question now, minus any bullshit?"

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    5. Re:Ask the askers.. by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 0

      "Excuse me. Mr. $Politician, but with all of that bullshit that just spewed out of your mouth I fail to recognize even a smidgen of an answer to the question. Could you please answer the question now, minus any bullshit?"

      There, fixed that for you...

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  23. Re:Who. Not whom. by HarrySquatter · · Score: 1

    It's not downvoted. AC posts start at 0.

  24. real debates by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 2

    The debates, an hour or two in total length, are the only time the citizenry get to question the candidates directly Yet the time alloted to people to ask questions is so short, no intelligent question can be asked. further, the audience is discouraged from reacting, and the questioner cannot interrupt when the candidates don't answer the question I would like to see one 3-4 hour debate per week, where it is almost open mike - people get three minutes to talk, and they can harangue the candidates, interrupt them, ask serious questions etc would need tape delay to remove the ***k words, and editing to take out the tedium, but we might get something worth watching

    1. Re:real debates by vlm · · Score: 1

      That would be 3-4 tedious hours of "legalize weed" "9-11 conspiracy" "can we pass an amendment to remove the separation of church and state"

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    2. Re:real debates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) well, if that is what the citizenry want, that is what they get.
      2) I suspect that if you truly had a random sample of people, you would find that the wierdos, although very loud in the media, are not that common in the avg population
      3) why is legalizing pot tedious ? it is a *seriousl* problem - we spend billions of scarce law enforcement dollars on pot, intead of rape, etc etc, and we send people, mostly poor , to prision for long periods for smoking a joint. It is a serious subject,and deserves serious debate
      4) if someone did talk about the "9./11 conspiracy" would that not give the candidates a chance to shine ?

      5) I would be interested to know if you are liberal or conservative; as aliberal, i have a lot of faith in my fellow americans,, true, my faith is sorely tested at times, as with the flat tax, or theidea that someone who says they won't appoint muslims to their cabinet is a serious candidate, but you never know.

  25. Barack Obama by Raul654 · · Score: 2

    Obama's rhetoric on civil liberties during the 2008 campaign was spot on. Given how horrible his actual civil liberties track record has been - "Obama has proved a disaster not just for specific civil liberties but the civil liberties cause in the United States" is how Jonathan Turley described him in a recent LA Times opo-ed - I'd like to hear him or one of his spokespeople try to defend his record on this matter.

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    1. Re:Barack Obama by asylumx · · Score: 1

      I wondered about that too. He's back off so much from what everyone who voted for him thought he stood for. Not that I'm going to go vote for his opponents (who stand for the opposite), but I'm certainly less enthused about voting.

      So, Seconded.

    2. Re:Barack Obama by StillNeedMoreCoffee · · Score: 1

      Given that the civil liberties you speak about really comes from the legislative branch of Government and not the Executive (as laid out in the Constitution), and given that Republican's absolute disdain for Obama and their totally, historically unprecedented use of tactics in the Senate to stop any governance or legislation. I think we can give Obama a pass on this. You should define what you think Obama could do given the intransigence and morally and ethically reprehensible behavior towards their sworn elected duties as the representatives of the people given the job of running the government for the people.

    3. Re:Barack Obama by Raul654 · · Score: 2

      "Given that the civil liberties you speak about really comes from the legislative branch of Government and not the Executive" - that's wrong both philosophically and realistically. In the philosophy of law, civil liberties originate in natural law and are codified in the Constitution. That's the essential difference between a right and a privilege - a privilege can be revoked, a right cannot. It is your right not to be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process, and the Constition says as much.

      Now where Obama is concerned, during the 2008 campaign criticized the Bush administration for holding people without trial indefinitely and torturing them. But once elected, within weeks of taking office he secretely promised Bush administration officials that they would not be investigated by the Justice department (which is part of the executive branch). He said he would close Guantanamo Bay (which he could do with an executive order) and didn't. His administration done more to prosecutive whisteblowers than any previous administration (by far). And now he claims the right to have the military (also in the executive branch) kill an American citizen without due process just because he says they are involved in terrorism. Even Bush would never have done that.

      So no, he absolutely does not deserve a free pass.

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  26. NOT elections by rcamans · · Score: 4, Informative

    Elections are where free people can choose who they want in public office.
    In America, the government, corporations, institutions, organizations, and political parties choose what rich stupid b*stard gets to be put in front of you to get "voted" into office.
    You do not have a choice. Whatever party you vote in, you will still get scr*wed by a lying, cheating, bribed b*stard. You get the same sh*t. Just different public "statements, promises, and claims"
    If we were electing someone to represent our interests in government, they would be representing our interests. Instead, they are representing the interests of lobbyists, PACs, special interest groups, corporations, institutions, and the rich and famous in general.
    Is it in our interest to have Obama spend 200,000,000+ on a flight vacation to Hawaii while joblessness is above 9%? I do not think so. How many jobs has Obama created? 1, for Michelle's brother, the basketball coach in Oregon.
    Tell me again how anyone, Democrat or republican, got anything they voted for.
    Liar.

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    1. Re:NOT elections by gknoy · · Score: 2

      You're allowed to write "bastard", "screwed", and "shit" on Slashdot. If you're writing the word, and we all know what it is even with a starred vowel, why do you pseudo-censor it?

    2. Re:NOT elections by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Whatever party you vote in, you will still get scr*wed by a lying, cheating, bribed b*stard. You get the same sh*t. Just different public "statements, promises, and claims"

      I find that annoying. Just say "Whatever party you vote in, you will still get screwed by a lying, cheating, bribed bastard. You get the same shit. Just different public 'statements, promises, and claims" and be done with it. If you're going ti use harsh language, use harsh language. If you're afraid of offending, don't use that language at all. Saying "sh*t" just looks juvenile.

      Whoever gets asked, I want to know why pot's still illegal, considering all the social ills prohibition causes. I've never gotten an answer that was based in fact from anyone.

    3. Re:NOT elections by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

      Is it in our interest to have Obama spend 200,000,000+ on a flight vacation to Hawaii while joblessness is above 9%?

      Really? $200M? Who told you this and is it in YOUR interests to swallow such an obvious distortion of the truth? Have you ever asked yourself why someone would broadcast this kind of propaganda, or do you simply accept what the media tells you without questioning the claims and motives of the speaker?

      Disclaimer: I don't have a dog in your political fight, but 10,000 miles of ocean air is not enough to dissipate the nauseating smell bullshit from your media.

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    4. Re:NOT elections by rcamans · · Score: 1

      I thought it got censored

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    5. Re:NOT elections by rcamans · · Score: 1

      Ahh. I researched it. My mistake. They were talking about Obama's xmas vacation, and Obama's annual flight costs.
      Vacation 1.7+ million.
      Obama's annual flight cost, 100 million, 172 days. Obama's ontourage flight costss 200+ million.

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    6. Re:NOT elections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, yes, this reminds me again why I no longer read Slashdot (on a regular basis). I tire of reading drivel by people who cannot express themselves without reference to bodily functions and reproductive practices.

      In fact, it's not even worth signing in so I can post as something other than an Anadromous Cowherd. Or however it lists me when I don't sign in.

    7. Re:NOT elections by gknoy · · Score: 1

      I said you're allowed to, not that one should. Sometimes it's the right word, even if it's often not.

    8. Re:NOT elections by alexo · · Score: 1

      Maybe his keyboard is gl*tchy?

  27. Re:Who. Not whom. by residieu · · Score: 0

    No. Whom is correct.

    Whom do you want to ask about 2012 elections?

    The subject is you.

    The verb is want to ask

    The object is whom

    about 2012 elections is a supporting prepositional phrase

    Who is always a subject, Whom is always an object (except here, when you're talking about the word itself)

  28. Mod parent up. by khasim · · Score: 1

    With almost all politicians (except the ones YOU like, of course) the "message" is the message. Asking questions is useless unless you're gathering material for The Daily Show or Colbert.

    No matter how uninformed a candidate is, the fans will still be fans.

    It isn't about picking the best candidate based upon your criteria.
    It's about using your flexible criteria to justify the politician / party that you've already emotionally decided upon.

    1. Re:Mod parent up. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think you make a good point. Therefore, I suggest we interview Jon Stewart and/or Stephen Colbert.

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    2. Re:Mod parent up. by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      I was going to suggest Frank Luntz for similar reasons.

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  29. Re:Who. Not whom. by grub · · Score: 1


    You don't like that classic rock band The Whom?

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  30. How about.... by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    we ask all of them, when they will put America first instead of their pocket book? And that needs to be asked of all of them, including O.

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  31. "For the next year, it will be hard to escape..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. And you're suggesting we should further that. See a problem there?

    How about we keep this a site with news for nerds instead of getting swept up into pointless politics and bickering?

  32. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    Does this mean an iPad will be elected president?

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  33. Re:Who. Not whom. by oodaloop · · Score: 1

    I do believe 'whom' is correct in this usage. Rephrase it as You Do Want to Ask Whom, and you can see it is the direct object, so use the objective form: whom.

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  34. an old fogey by obarthelemy · · Score: 1

    Retired politicians/pundits/... with no stakes in the game anymore are by far the most entertaining and interesting. Plus they want to get rid of stuff they've had on their chest for a while, ie all the lies and stupidities they've ha to spout to please their electoral bases.

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    1. Re:an old fogey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bob Dole and Mike Dukakis come to mind. Also, George HW Bush and Jimmy Carter.

      It might be interesting, or maybe not.

  35. Michael Kinsley by codeAlDente · · Score: 1

    has geek/pol cred.

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  36. Re:"Whom" isn't a word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define:whom

  37. Too many laws, too many lawyers by HellYeahAutomaton · · Score: 1

    In software development we have a concept of refactoring: "a disciplined technique for restructuring an existing body of code, altering its internal structure without changing its external behavior".

    How do the candidates feel about refactoring all of our laws, rules, and regulations for simplicity?

    1. Re:Too many laws, too many lawyers by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      More useful than asking what they will do is to ask what they will undo: Repeal the Repeal of Glass-Steagall

  38. Ask the policy setters by alexo · · Score: 1

    Mitch Bainwol and Chris Dodd.

  39. Current non-politician involved in government by poity · · Score: 1

    Everyone holds bias, but someone who isn't dependent on votes in the near future would be less bound by his/her desire to maintain public image while still possessing the insider experience to give us an insightful appraisal.

    Perhaps former officials of the US Cabinet.

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  40. Huh!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you talking about??? Obama's 2008 campaign never ended!

  41. Nobody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eradicate the ruling class. The "two party" system is a joke. Democracy in the US is dead and has been for some time.

  42. Rand Paul by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

    Ron Paul is nuts. Every time I want to like him, he goes and says something untrue, inane, or just plain insane.

    I would much rather hear from Rand Paul, who has been somewhat in the shadows through all this. Some have suggested that he'll be his fathers successor. Me, I don't know. I really haven't heard enough from him. Thus, it would be great to interview him here. Maybe, just maybe, he'll wind up being the "Paul" I can like.

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  43. To whom will I direct my comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To whom will I direct my comments? I'd like to ask someone who has a grasp of the English language.

  44. ask my sig by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    ask my signature and watch the response right there.

    1. Re:ask my sig by BiggoronSword · · Score: 1

      mod++

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    2. Re:ask my sig by PaulBu · · Score: 1

      mod+=2; ;-)

      Proud supporter since 2007,

      Paul B.

    3. Re:ask my sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ask my signature and watch the response right there.

      OK, signature. What is the meaning of life? Be brief and concise, and please show your work.

      Or was there something else you wanted your signature to be asked?

  45. Nate Silver by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    Nate Silver, the man behind fivethirtyeight.com He does analysis on multiple topics and has been pretty accurate historically. The questions that he can answer can probably be a lot more geeky than those that could be asked of others, and are also the types of questions that are less likely to get bullshit responses. I also think he's the type of person who would probably be willing to answer Slashdot questions so there's that to be said as well.

    1. Re:Nate Silver by CambodiaSam · · Score: 1

      Please mod up. I followed Nate's analysis of the 2008 election and was amazed to see him nail the results to within a few electoral votes.

    2. Re:Nate Silver by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

      I agree! We need real statistical analysis. Not more opinions.

    3. Re:Nate Silver by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      Yes!!! I have tremendous respect for Nate Silver for all he did in the 2008 elections to explain polling and statistical modeling, and for holding polling agencies accountable for their results.

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    4. Re:Nate Silver by ttyler · · Score: 1

      Yes! Nate's writing is smart and fun. Don't believe me? Read how awesome he uses statistics to describe the improbable collapse of the Boston Red Sox this year:

      http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/september-collapse-of-red-sox-could-be-worst-ever/

  46. Go Big, ask for the President .... by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

    My questions:

    1. Can the Education Department produce and maintain a BS-free "Open Course Content" (Open eBooks, Open teaching materials, randomized test content ...) curriculum for grades K...12 that are comparable to any extremely highly ranked private school? No don't force the states to use the curriculum, eventually state education budget cuts will require the Open and Free curriculum to reduce education cost. Yes, education infrastructure will still be failing nationally, but some bills the states should pay. Yes, keep gods out of the "Public" classrooms, appropriately the gods must be kept at home and at private places of worship to protect The USA Constitutional right of all citizens.

    2. Why has the Presidential Medal of Freedom never been awarded to great North American Citizens like RHStallman (GNU...OSS), PZimmermann (PGP), NNegroponte (OLPC) ...?

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    1. Re:Go Big, ask for the President .... by Viewsonic · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to compare anything to a private school? Statistically, grade wise, they are actually doing worse by a tiny margin over public schools.

    2. Re:Go Big, ask for the President .... by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

      Hence, I said, "extremely highly ranked private school?"

      There are a few MIT, Harvard ... types of private primary and secondary schools. Almost all the private religious/dogma schools are worthless money-pits.

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  47. Libertarians by deblau · · Score: 1

    If anyone is interested, I can get someone on the Libertarian National Committee (LNC) or the Libertarian National Campaign Committee (LNCC) to answer questions. The Libertarian Party is the largest third and fastest growing party in the US (as confirmed by Wikipedia!) and I know that many ./ers tend to lean small-L libertarian.

    Disclaimer: I am the Region 2 alternate member of the LNC, and Chair of the Massachusetts Libertarian Party.

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    1. Re:Libertarians by deblau · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the self-reply. I wanted to say that as a member of the LNC, I have pretty good access to any of the elected or candidate Libertarians across the country, including Presidential candidates.

      Also, I'd recommend Ron Rivest as a non-candidate expert on voting. (Yes, the "R" in "RSA".) He's a really down-to-earth guy who I think would be really approachable, and he has done work that addresses electoral fraud (including inventing a new voting system).

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  48. Daily Show by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

    That's not a bad idea, actually. If we can impress upon Jon some of the things that matter to us, it could shape his future interviews with candidates (or choosing guests, for that matter). He can't make them answer, but he has a talent of making them face the issue.

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  49. proscribe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Proscribe" means "to condemn or forbid as harmful or unlawful : prohibit". Ron Paul doesn't want to restrict government's role to what is forbidden by the constitution. That's the other guys.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proscribe

  50. Noam Chomsky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  51. Opinions are like assholes by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

    Our culture celebrates assholes, just as it celebrates talking heads. We've replaced real news and fact, opinions and jag-off talking heads. Listening to our opinion producers causes you to know less, not more.

    Instead, I'll tell you who I don't want to ask: Any politician. Anyone who is regularly on television. Anyone who can't footnote their answers.

  52. Herman Cain by thomasw_lrd · · Score: 1

    Since he has a BS in Math, and a Masters in Computer Science, I think he would be the best person to interview for a site like Slashdot. You know, News for Nerds.

    1. Re:Herman Cain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he is not a true black guy as he supports those racists in the Tea party and those Racist Republicans. Any African-American who is not a Democrat is an Oreo and an Uncle Tom and a traitor to their own race!

  53. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Counterexample: Barack Obama.

    Remember 2008 when hope and change went viral? Yes, it was here too, though nowadays it's painfully embarrassing to recall.

  54. Elizabeth Warren by tkr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sixty-two year old babe running for Senate from Massachusetts. Straight shooter, smarter than me and probably you, too. Also tough as nails. If you like Senator Franken, you will like future Senator Warren.

    1. Re:Elizabeth Warren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's a whackjob.
      http://bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1375601
      Last week, the wannabe senator said she is going after “the hick vote.” How John Kerry of her. We already have one elitist U.S. senator, do we really need another one?
      Only someone from Oklahoma or an elite Harvard professor would call the Massachusetts middle class a bunch of hicks. Is it any surprise that 70 percent of Queen Elizabeth’s donations are from out of state?
      This degrading reference gives us a major glimpse of how she, if elected, would govern from the top with more do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do and government-knows-best attitudes.
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      Elizabeth Warren, the leftist Harvard professor seeking to challenge Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, tells Samuel Jacobs of the Daily Beast: "I created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do."
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      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903791504576586810043875354.html
      Lefties love Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard law scholar seeking the Democratic nomination to challenge Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts. The hard-left outfit MoveOn.org has been promoting a quote of hers defending President Obama's antibusiness attitudes:

      There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there--good for you!

      But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that maurauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory. . . .

      Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea--God bless! Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.

      Reader Brent Amos offers a rejoinder:

      What amazes me is how so many people linking this quote celebrate the sheer ignorance of it. People who build factories pay a variety of fees that also pay for roads, schools and many other things. Just a few fees in my locale are Building Plan Check and Permit Fee, Transportation Impact Fee, Parks Development Fee, School Impact Fee, Service Impact Fee (for police and fire), Treatment Plant Connection Capacity Charge, Trunk Line Capacity Charge, and any number of special fees depending on the nature of the building. These aren't fees for a factory necessarily, these are fees to build anything. Then for the life of the building there will be ongoing assessments (taxes) by the city and county that will be used to pay for city and county services and roads. The fee schedule for my city alone is 28 pages long.

      Someone who builds something pays his fair share, especially here in California. Moreover, someone with the wherewithal to build in California has paid taxes on his (probably larger than average) personal income and residence. That developer also paid the salaries for the construction workers and then the employees that worked in the building who in turn paid income tax, sales tax, and if a homeowner, real estate tax.

      Yes, almost everyone pays for roads, police and fire, but a developer has paid far more for such things than the average citizen. How much worse off would a community be that didn't have someone to build buildings and pay employees that then pay taxes? It isn't very hard to find communities that are dead or dying because they couldn't find businesses to locate there. The liberal myth that businesses don't pay their fair share is what drives those businesses to other states or countries.

      And what's with the crack about "marauding bands"? Does Ms. Warren honestly believe that is a realistic problem in the U.S.? Thi

    2. Re:Elizabeth Warren by Volda · · Score: 1

      I have to second this. She is definately a women with the balls to say how reality is. Ive been impressed with her for a while now.

    3. Re:Elizabeth Warren by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      Looks like a writer for some "entertainer" on Faux News is testing his material.

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  55. Sarah Palin by Codeyman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given that Republicans don't have clear front runner, chances that Obama will continue as a president is highly probable.. By inviting Sarah Palin we can at least get some LOLs.. (and may be some material for SNL skits)

    1. Re:Sarah Palin by Todd+Palin · · Score: 0

      Great idea. Do you think Perry and Cain haven't provided enough laughs?

  56. Lawrence Lessig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's been writing about the corruption involved in getting elected for some time now. I'd love to hear from him on the subject.

    1. Re:Lawrence Lessig by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      Mod up. Lessig would be a great Slashdot interview.

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    2. Re:Lawrence Lessig by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Those who don't know Lawrence Lessig have 6 or 7 digit uids. Search slashdot for him. All over the place in the early days.

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    3. Re:Lawrence Lessig by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 1

      +1

  57. To whom should I complain about this title? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who among us recognizes that "whom" is an object, not a subject? Are you all the same people who say "to he and I" when you mean "to him and me"?

  58. *Which* reality? by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    I would say that predicting 2008 housing crash many years in advance would be a pretty good validation of his "theories" that allowing unlimited money creation guided by political reasons leads to rather unpleasant unintended consequences...

    But your version of the reality must be different from mine. Does it also happen in your part of multiverse that Obama fulfilled any of his campaign promises, withdrew from Iraq and Afghanistan (which, as Commander in Chief, is about the only thing the President can do on his own, and I am sure RP would do it), and did not start a couple of (undeclared!) wars (err, conflicts) of his own?

    Maybe you should research his "theories" a bit better.

    Proud supported since 2007,

    Paul B.

    1. Re:*Which* reality? by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 1

      I am a big fan of Ron Paul, but hell, I predicted the housing crash in 2001, when I was barely out of high school and didn't even know what a libertarian was. It was obvious to anyone who saw how common those HomeVestors "We Buy Ugly Houses" signs were, and noticed they kept increasing in number instead of disappearing. He doesn't get any credit for that.

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    2. Re:*Which* reality? by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Every Austrian predicted that sort of disaster. The problem is that:

      a) Austrian economics predicted lots of disasters that didn't happen. Ron Paul included in this.
      b) Austrian economics doesn't offer as useful approaches to getting out of it as Keynesianism.

      Austrian economics is better than the claptrap the Republicans are pushing. Austrian economics does a great job in critiquing Keynesianism. That being said Keynesian economics is vastly more useful in running a country.

    3. Re:*Which* reality? by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should research his "theories" a bit better.

      He's a young-Earth creationist. Admittedly, that's only one of his "theories", but it's not a good sign.

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  59. As a matter of fact, he already did! Back in 2008 by PaulBu · · Score: 3, Informative
  60. Nate Silver by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

    He did such a good job of analyzing the 2008 election, I would like a good Slashdot interview of him to discuss his methodologies and what challenges he has when performing political analysis... as well as how the NY Times buy-out of his blog has affected what he publishes.

  61. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    No, more likely it'll be President Tux.

  62. Buddy Roemer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has a degree in economics, is a former governor and congressman, is a successful businessman, and is actively contending for the Republican nomination on platformof "Free to Lead". He has embraced many of Lawrence Lessig's ideas about how corruption is the root of our problems, and the solution is to reform campaign finance and relationship with lobbiests.

  63. Ask them all this.... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'd like to ask this of Paul, and every other candidate for President.

    "Why did it take a constitutional amendment to ban, then un-ban alcohol in the US....yet marijuana and other intoxicants since then, have been banned/regulated on the whim of the US legislature or executive order? Why is a constitutional amendment no longer needed for banning an intoxicant?"

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    1. Re:Ask them all this.... by buddilla · · Score: 0

      I 2nd that.

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    2. Re:Ask them all this.... by buddilla · · Score: 0

      I second this.

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    3. Re:Ask them all this.... by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      I read an interesting article on the Smithsonian website a while back on Prohibition. It claimed that the Income Tax, legalized just before World War I, allowed the federal government to fund government activities through the income tax without import tariffs on alcohol. This was pursued by primarily religious and other groups concerned with drunkenness. As I recall, the Prohibitionists were never a majority, but they did leverage their votes by very effectively getting politicians who wouldn't support their policy objectives out of office, forcing enough politicians at both the federal and state levels to support their amendment and get it on the Constitution. I imagine they went about it that way because they figured they would never lose the support to keep the law in place. Unfortunately, they didn't realize ahead of time that Prohibition would give rise to the American mafia.

      By virtue of the commerce clause (at least when the substances are shipped across state lines), government has authority to prohibit these substances. As a person who has no interest in using any of these currently banned substances, or letting any of my children near them, I don't see a problem with them being legal as long as we figure out a way to prevent motor vehicle deaths from people using any of these substances and operating a motor vehicle. I would require very strict guidelines on the production of meth, but other than that, I don't see how we are significantly better off other than drug use doesn't seem to be as bad now as it was in the 70s or 80s. Maybe that's just my perception. But I hope it's due to education and smart choices than any amount of effectiveness in our law enforcement activities.

  64. Re:Who. Not whom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This convoluted explanation is not necessary. If can reply to a question wih him, it means that in the question you need to have whom:

    - Whom do you want to ask?
    - Him.

  65. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd vote... at least it'd do less damage than what's been done for the past decade.

  66. That's the core problem by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 2

    As the years go by, people still stubbornly, willfully ignore the fact that candidates' "positions" on the "issues" (two laughable notions) are not in any demonstrable way predictive of future performance. That is a fancier and somewhat more precise way of repeating the obvious: it's all bullshit. There is no way around that. The system is fully owned by mobsters wielding money-soaked lobbyists. What candidates or their handlers say or do during an election has no importance whatsoever. In case that last part wasn't clear, these interviews are not necessary. They have zero importance. They will yield no new or useful information. Worse, they are a distracting nuisance because so many people actually think some sort of useful information really will come out of them. This is false. No useful information of any kind will come out of them. On the plus side, Slashdot can take any approach it likes, even random generation of character sequences for "interview questions," and it will make no difference one way or the other.

    Far more interesting is the question: Given that the electoral process in the US is entirely, completely, and hopelessly corrupted, now what?

    1. Re:That's the core problem by jkoke · · Score: 1

      A constitutional amendment requiring public funding of all federal elections.

    2. Re:That's the core problem by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      A constitutional amendment requiring public funding of all federal elections.

      How about interviewing Lawrence Lessig on this topic?

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  67. How about video? by MattW · · Score: 1

    Let's have a Slashdot roundtable. Get together Richard Posner, Paul Krugman, Greg Mankiw, Tyler Cowen, Lawrence Lessig, and some smart econ/political geeks, and let's talk turkey about economic policy, politics, and how technology interacts with these forces. (I'd really love to get a luminary on education in there, but I'm not sure who the good choices would be.)

  68. what's the point? by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    Rick Perry said it best. "You get to ask the questions, and I get to answer how I want to." Who are we kidding? The candidates WILL NOT ANSWER your questions. Yeah, maybe you can get the webmaster to talk, but how much value is this really?

  69. Hank and Mary by Stargoat · · Score: 1

    Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright. These former Secretary of States two have a better perception of world affairs and how the US political landscape affects world affairs than any two other individuals in the world. Further, they often hold contrary views allowing the discriminating reader a greater understanding of American politics.

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    1. Re:Hank and Mary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright. These former Secretary of States two have a better perception of world affairs and how the US political landscape affects world affairs than any two other individuals in the world. Further, they often hold contrary views allowing the discriminating reader a greater understanding of American politics.

      Two of the members of the ZoG who rule the world. Good choice!

    2. Re:Hank and Mary by Stargoat · · Score: 1

      Well, as Europeans are the descendants of Gog and Magog, they can hardly be expected to rule themselves.

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  70. Repeal the Repeal of Glass-Steagall by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

    More useful than asking what they will do is to ask what they will undo: Repeal the Repeal of Glass-Steagall

    1. Re:Repeal the Repeal of Glass-Steagall by digsbo · · Score: 1

      Since you brought up Glass-Steagall, I wonder if you think that stopping a holding company from owning both an investment and commercial bank goes far enough (that was the only provision repealed)? What about preventing the co-mingling of deposit and loan banking, or double-counting dollars owed more than once (fractional reserve banking)?

  71. Solution? by GoChickenFat · · Score: 1

    anyone can complain...what is your solution? For me, all politics are local. We pay way too much attention to the national election and very little attention to local elections. These national people don't come from nowhere. Most start locally. If we all take more time to pay attention where it matters most, our backyard, perhaps less of these clowns will make it to the national stage. I'm tired of voting for the "least awful"...
    Also, people vote. Not organizations, etc. Are people only educated by TV commercials? Money itself isn't the problem it's the fuel to the ignorance fire that most voters flock to - advertisements as information. We're well on our way to "Idiocracy".

    1. Re:Solution? by rcamans · · Score: 1

      We do not have a spot on the ticket to say neither of the above. We do not have a spot on the ticket to vote against the bastard.
      The media lie about some of the runners most of the time, and most of the runners some of the time. So the vast majority of people are NOT educated.
      Media news about runners is not supposed to be advertising, but it is.
      Several times in history the guy who got elected had fewer voters than the guy who lost. Fewer states, smaller land area, etc.
      Teh whole system sucks.
      Can you say electoral college?
      And then, the politicians lie to us.
      We are royally screwed. Not Democratic in any way.

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  72. Lawrence Lessig by wfs2mail.com · · Score: 2

    Lawrence Lessig is a Harvard law professor. He is bright, articulate, technically savvy and an excellent speaker/presenter.

    For those unfamiliar with him, he spent a decade focused on Law and Technology, especially related to copyright. More recently, he has shifted his focus to Institutional and Political Corruption.

    He has taken a break from his blogging site, but its still a good read and his books are listed here:
    http://www.lessig.org/blog/

    His contact information is:
    http://republic.lessig.org/contact.php/

  73. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

    More useful than asking what they will do is to ask what they will undo: Repeal the Repeal of Glass-Steagall

  74. What does it matter by Bemopolis · · Score: 2

    Slashdot Asks: Whom Do You Want To Ask About 2012's U.S. Elections?

    Regardless of outcome, a fucking grief counselor.

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    1. Re:What does it matter by j-beda · · Score: 1

      Slashdot Asks: Whom Do You Want To Ask About 2012's U.S. Elections?

      Regardless of outcome, a fucking grief counselor.

      THAT I can get behind.

  75. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by polar+red · · Score: 1

    join the 99% movement.

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  76. Ron Paul by droidsURlooking4 · · Score: 0

    Easy. He's the only one who's been explicit about how he will cut $1,000,000,000,000 of debt immediately. Everyone else is pretty vague, except Cain's 999 extra value meal, I mean plan.

  77. Re:Who. Not whom. by mclaincausey · · Score: 1

    derp

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  78. Obama by Todd+Palin · · Score: 1

    Has the Afghan war been worth the shattered lives and the bankruptcy of the economy?

  79. baseball analogy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the New York Yankees were looking for a new general manager, Ron Paul would be like the guy advocating that the Yankees cut their payroll by more than half, use "Moneyball"-style statistical techniques to find prospects, and build most of the major league club year after year through the farm system.

    That might be a defensible approach for Team X, but it would be disastrous for the New York Yankees. The Yankees are in the unique position of having vastly more financial resources than anyone else, and also having higher expectations than anyone else (every season in which they don't reach the World Series is considered a failure by the team, media, and fans).

    That's like the US when it comes to foreign policy. The US has to be big and active overseas, and that requires a humongous amount of spending.

  80. Why is this ... by alvieboy · · Score: 1

    ... on /. ? /. is about tech, geek, and nerds.

    Not politics. Much less US politics.

    Mod me -1 as you like, but I'm kinda tired that, despite most tech developments are made outside US, /. is still US-centric. And this actually is the way it is, because you wanted it to be this way.

    Even most doctorates in US either are not US citizens, or were born abroad.

    Alvie.

  81. enumerated powers is exactly that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not sure how you interpret "enumerated powers and all laws that are necessary to implement said powers" as allowing much more than... enumerated powers.

  82. Second that one by Quila · · Score: 2

    He could actually understand our questions.

    Too bad the smear machine has already gone into gear against him and he'll be toppled from his front runner status.

  83. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by Hartree · · Score: 1

    "No, more likely it'll be President Tux."

    And we'll have a penguin army. So the bear cavalry will be totally screwed.

  84. A Time Lord: by Hartree · · Score: 1

    That way maybe I can get longshot odds in Vegas and retire early.

  85. And, for an extra bonus point... by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    Which states pushed for three-fifth compromise?

    That degrading (and, as others rightfully put it, since amended properly) provision was there at the insistence of the North, not South (who actually wanted to keep their slaves counted as "whole" humans for the purposes of having more representation in Congress).

    Paul B.

    1. Re:And, for an extra bonus point... by i_b_don · · Score: 1

      The southerners were arguing that their slaves, while property, would still count toward representation within the congress. However beyond that issue... they were property and of course they weren't given the right to vote.

      People compromise the less of evils in order to get things done. We may not have had a country if that compromise wasn't made. The constitution was written so that it could be changed, and that's exactly what happened to erase the compromise from our laws.

      d

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  86. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    I have listened to Rand Paul on youtube several times and I was not ever impressed.

    When he tries to tell me that low-flow toilets don't work, for example, I have to say "Really, Rand? How many have you installed? I've installed quite a few, and although they sure as hell didn't work the first two years after they were introduced, they work great now."

    I can get a dirt cheap 1.6 gallon per flush toilet today that will flush more live lobsters at once than the five gallon flush it replaces. I can even get a 1.3 gallon per flush model that works for anyone who isn't morbidly obese or suffering from truly horrible bowel problems.

  87. Official spokespersons by jbolden · · Score: 1

    I'd say let's do what lots of other groups do and have the campaign give on the record official answers to a series of policy question of interest to slashdot readers. We could get into more detailed discussion of patent reform or international copyright enforcement or...

  88. Did he veto the Patriot Act and made 2/3 of evil.. by PaulBu · · Score: 2

    ... republicans in the Congress to overrule his veto?

    Or did he go to great extents to sign its extension (via that fancy robotic arm).

    I second the notion, I would love to see Obama defend his flip-flopping on, hey, almost anything. I would prefer him to debate my preferred guy (obvious from my signature) on live TV, would be great! ;-)

    Paul B.

  89. Denis Kucinich, Ron Paul, Howard Dean, Al Franken by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    Kucinich and Paul because they have principles that transcend party loyalty and they are not for sale.

    Dean because he was the first Internet-savvy candidate, and has been the man behind the Democratic curtain for a long time now.

    Al Franken because although his spoken delivery is awful, in written media the man is both funny and insightful.

  90. No one, just... by afabbro · · Score: 1

    ...give me a way to exclude stories tagged politics from my Slashdot page.

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  91. It's a pity you posted it as an AC by PaulBu · · Score: 0

    Someone with mod points, please mod up!

    Paul B.

  92. What exactly is the point of this farce? by tekrat · · Score: 1

    Anybody who lives in the reality of the USA knows the political system is completely broken.Representatives do NOT represent "the people", they represent whomever is cutting them the biggest check. It's the best politics money can buy.

    You can ask anyone from Obama on down to the lowliest D.C. Paige anything you like, but there won't be any action unless you're handing over a suitcase of cash.

    So, really Slashdot, what's the point? Our politicians are bought and paid-for whores, and unless you're waving money, they won't lift a finger. That's the reality. Representative government has failed via corruption.

    The Supreme Court has even ruled that Corporations are people, so therefore, those with the money get to write their own laws, and the rest of us chattel have to live by them.

    So, I guess my question is: Is there anyone left in government that actually represents the interests of the people? And before they answer, make sure you know EXACTLY how much they've accepted from lobbyists, because that will tell you up-front how much they are lying.

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  93. Grover Norquist by tekrat · · Score: 2

    This is the most powerful UNELECTED man in Federal Government. Because a large number of the GOP have signed his pledge to NEVER raise taxes, the GOP has scuttled or stalled every proposal to get this nation back on it's feet.

    So my question is for Grover. And my question is this: "What gives you the fucking right? Nobody in America cast even one vote for your sorry ass, and yet you are dictating policy more than any elected official, even the goddam president. Do you really think you represent everyone in America? Do you even realize how much damage you are causing to our poilitcal system? Do you realize that YOU created the gridlock that ultimately lowered America's credit rating? And that further gridlock will ultimately cause this nation's downfall?"

    Douche.

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  94. Just was giving the most obvious example... ;-) by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    I knew it looked suspicious too, but then, I've learned from him a lot about actually connecting the dots. Why housing bubble started to inflate right after .com crash, and why .com started to inflate almost right after *previous* Savings and Loans housing bubble in 80s, etc.

    And, he actually saw it coming back when gold window was closed in 70s, what made him go into politics in the first place.

    But you already know this, most probably, and the person I was replying to likely did not (or preferred not to!).

    Paul B.

    1. Re:Just was giving the most obvious example... ;-) by tbannist · · Score: 1

      Actually, I knew the U.S. housing crash was coming and I don't even live there. It was pretty obvious as soon as I saw a graph of housing prices in the U.S. You may think that I'm making it up, but I remember posting about it on Slashdot in 2004, in the run up to Bush's re-election. At the time there were only two growth sectors in the U.S. economy: housing and health care. That was unsustainable.

      Bubbles pop, it's what they all do sooner or later. The housing bubble wouldn't have been worse than any other bubble, if the Federal Reserve hadn't kept interests so low for so long and banksters hadn't invented derivatives roulette. Frankly, I think most Americans are not learning the lesson they need to learn, which is don't put an idiot in charge of your country, even if things are going so well "not even an idiot could screw it up".

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    2. Re:Just was giving the most obvious example... ;-) by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Problem is that Americans didn't put an idiot in charge, they put lots and lots of idiots in charge. Both parties fell all over themselves to set up the collapse. The list of stupid things is long and amazing. Almost always when both parties agree on something you know it's going to suck so bad. I love gridlock. The less they do the better it is.

  95. Question by PhillyMeeks · · Score: 1

    WTF?

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  96. Re:Come to /. to see who WON'T be the next preside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    join the 99% movement.

    Why should I? If "we ... are ... the 99%", surely the election results will please us greatly, no? (Now, I'm getting ready to pelt the tin-hat brigade with green jello!)
     

  97. Bernard Sanders or Dennis Kucinich.... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

    More specifically, I would love to see Kucinich mount a primary challenge against Obama from within his own party, or Sanders accept the draft petition and run as an Independent in the general election.

    http://www.sandersforpresident.org/

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  98. Jack Abramoff by Tweezak · · Score: 1

    He should be able to give us a fair assessment of how much it will cost to buy off each of the candidates. After all, that's the only metric that matters.

  99. Bill Still by ckaminski · · Score: 1

    http://Still2012.com

    Stop the looting - start the prosecuting!

  100. The Machiavelli's by WScottC · · Score: 1
    I think it would be very interesting to have each of the following respond to the same questions as posed by Slashdot:
  101. Bradley, Coors, DeVos, Koch, Olin, Scaife by cmholm · · Score: 1

    The senior males of the titled families write the checks that by-and-large determine what policies the likes of Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich, and most of the senior elected GOP (and a few of the Democrats) put actual effort into, rather than just talk about. I suggest we cut out the middle man, and at least try to ask the opinions of one of these gentlemen.

    I contend that - regardless of what their mouthpieces have to say - they don't really care about free markets or 'conservatism'. They care about guiding us to a predetermined result, where the 1% (or more to the point, the 1% of the 1%) corner the market on both liquid wealth and political influence.

    It is possible that they have a different, or at least more nuanced, point of view. If so, I invite them to state it.

    If someone wants to suggest George Soros or Warren Buffet, feel free. But, I'll tell you now and believe me later, Soros is an outlier within his class, and Buffet considered to have gone a bit off the reservation.

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    1. Re:Bradley, Coors, DeVos, Koch, Olin, Scaife by companydroid · · Score: 1

      Conservatives/Republicans/Pseudo-Libertarians want nothing close to a free market. What they want is to maintain this system that protects their interests and make the income gap even wider between the 1% and every one else. A true free market would have none of those protections. Sure there'd be no pesky things like OSHA or the EPA. But also no non-compete clauses or non-disclosure agreements. I could go to any Six Flags amusement park and set up a lemonade stand and no one could stop me. Free market? Bring it bitches!

  102. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    What other types of toilets are you familiar with? In Germany they have toilets with a momentary button to lift the valve, a small amount of water in the basin and a VERY large reservoir. You only need hold the button long enough to flush through whatever your flushing. If it's urine, usually just a second or two is all that's needed. Probably only 2-3 pints. But then, when you've got more serious stuff, you can do 1.7 gallons when needed, which adds up to being much more efficient than the guaranteed 1.6 gpf. I imagine the U.S. water utilities love those 1.6 gpf toilets.

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  103. The American People by Greyfox · · Score: 2
    Do we have anyone but ourselves to blame for the sad state of affairs? In recent years we've been happy to allow only thirty to forty percent of the country dictate the course of the nation. Most of the time we re-elect the incumbent. Emboldened by the disinterest of the American people, the politicians have quietly and happily been whoring themselves out to the highest bidder, taking billions of dollars in campaign donations collectively and stacking the decks in the favor of their rich friends. Your Congressman tells you there's no way for you to have affordable health care, while he has the finest money can buy. Your congressman tells you that you have no one but yourself to blame for your unemployment, while happily taking another cost of living increase to his six digit salary. Your congressman tells you that when you retired and the corporations have sucked you dry, that you are a burden to society and that we can no longer afford to suffer your existence. Meanwhile they have stood by, idle, while the bankers and corporate executives have literally plundered the country's future, and took no one to task for it.

    And why should they care? Their jobs are up for review only every few years. No one is there to take them to task for attendance or participation. It is unlikely that we will remember their transgressions in the next election season, even if enough people cared to turn out to begin with. These people are your employees. Are you happy with the job your employees are doing? Are they working on your behalf?

    So, American People, are you going to continue to put up with this behavior? Are you going to sit idly by on election day and let your chance to make your voice heard? I propose to you that in 2012, we, The American People, tell the current political parties in no uncertain terms that their behavior will no longer be tolerated. I propose we do this by un-electing every single office that comes up for re-election, and that we vote for third parties whenever possible in those elections. And I propose that we continue to do this until we have some people in there who want to put the welfare of the American People in front of the corporations who want to suck us dry. It is, after all, the American People who hire and fire politicians, not corporate interest groups, not the Koch Brothers, not the think tanks in Washington. Us.

    So, what do you say, American People? Political blood bath on election day? Or are you happy with Business as Usual?

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  104. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Taty'sEyes · · Score: 1

    You know what I don't like about German toilets? The fact that your feces drops onto a porcelain plateau and not into water. Now granted you don't get the occasional "splash back" from the American style, but you do get a much more "fragrant" experience and guaranteed skid marks. Too graphic?

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  105. "We" by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Screw 'em, all we need is to be able to kill people.

    Seriously: in that sentence, who does "we" refer to? When you realize it refers to the federal government, not the country, and that those are two totally different (and often adversarial) things, you'll "get" the idea of constitutional limits.

    We need to not be assholes on the internet, but we don't want the government to regulate what you're allowed to say on the internet. We need religion to go away and die, but we don't want government to outlaw (or establish) religion. We want speed limits on some roads, but recognize that the federal government is no better informed about what roads need what limits, then our state and local governments made up of people who actually live here and have maybe seen the roads. We want certain building codes, but recognize that buildings in Alaska and Louisiana exist within totally different environments.

    Wanting feds to butt out of an issue, is usually not the same as taking any particular side on that issue.

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  106. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the runway is a bit odd. The only purpose I could figure was that it allows for convenient inspection, aside from just conserving water by reducing the basin size.

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  107. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by digsbo · · Score: 1

    Rand Paul seems to throw in a little bit of Palin-esque stupidity on purpose to minimize GOP fear of him, and to not ostracize the part of the electorate that is scared of the fact that his father is often talking to them like intelligent adults.

  108. Liberal leanings? by digsbo · · Score: 1

    Until recently, I thought /. was relatively libertarian, certainly much more than most sites. It's only in the past few years that I've seen stereotypically liberal comments become common. I suspect that males born after 1990 match the bias you suggest, but they're still not a majority here.

  109. You know your history... by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    ... but too many people do not, and in my rather short time living in this country (and actually studying its history on the side), I have seen the whole 3/5th thing attributed to too many "racist Southerners"/"Republicans" once too many times (never mind that the real racists were what was then called Democrats, and MLK was a Republican), so I have a bit of an issue when that is raised as an argument in serious discussion about what needs to be done *now*.

    I am originally from the "Soviet Russia" (actually, Soviet Union), and I might have an issue about choosing "the lessER of two evils", from what I've heard, "Articles of Confederation" were not that bad either! ;) And no, I do not care about living in a big "country" (and was supporting the notion of Soviet Union collapse back in the day, when all different peoples were just willing out of it, for all different reasons); I would prefer to live in a Republic with a clear set of laws limiting the Government, while having my ability to choose the particular set I want to adhere to/limit myself by simply moving across the state lines!

    Paul B.

  110. Bernie Sanders by jwhitener · · Score: 1

    Bernie Sanders has a standing "interview" on the Thom Hartman radio show every Friday morning. When I happen to listen in, I've always been impressed with his ideas.

    I'd like to ask him if he sees any hope for, and a specific way to obtain, meaningful campaign finance regulation. (Making it easier for third parties to run in primaries and generals, removing or scaling back the power that money has in elections, etc... ).

  111. Newt Gingrich? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gingrich is definitely the most pro-science, and I'd speculate the most intelligent, of any major candidate.

  112. Can you show the proof to me? ;-) by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    Where he says that Earth is definitely 6000 years old, and Bible is to be taken literally?

    He is definitely religious (and, by the way, I am personally not, though I have used "Taoist" on government forms to indicate my religious affiliation, just for the fun of it, and can argue that we live in a simulation or agree with Borges that for omnipotent Got if would mean nothing to embed a couple of fitting-together bones in the Earth to fool naive humans, on certain days! ;) ) -- but, he definitely does not wear it on his sleeve, and would rather have matters like this to be left to individual human beings.

    Besides, if you are an atheist, which of current/past/future US candidates could you sincere support? Not Obama, right? ;-)

    Paul B.

    1. Re:Can you show the proof to me? ;-) by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Ron Paul 2012 or bust!

      I like a big bust.

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    2. Re:Can you show the proof to me? ;-) by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      He doesn't nominate 6000 years (many YECers don't), but here's one example video.

      You're right that Ron Paul doesn't think it should be important (he does note in the video that asking him about evolution is an inappropriate question), but he also thinks that matters like educational standards should be more decentralised. We know what can all-too-often happen to science education when the curriculum is put in the hands of local politicians in certain parts of the USA. True, the fix is never more than a court case away, but those are time-consuming and expensive.

      BTW, I never said I was an atheist. Or an American, for that matter.

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  113. The Who were on first by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Guess Who was on second. The Band was on third.

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  114. I've lived through one of those... by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    ... and have to admit, that they are lots of fun, especially when you are young! ;-)

    When you are a bit older, as in, having to plan for more than one month ahead, they are less fun, but still can be educational to some people.

    (Me? trying to be young in heart, honestly!)

    Paul B.

    1. Re:I've lived through one of those... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      When you are a bit older, as in, having to plan for more than one month ahead

      There is a point when you become older that there is less of a need to plan for more than one month.

      But that's only if you planned properly when you were younger.

      Though I would hardly say that planning is something that is limited to certain age groups. When I was a teenager, for example, I spent a lot of time planning to get laid and become a rock star. More time, I would say, than I spent planning in my adulthood.

      Mostly, I believe in luck, but luck only happens to those who are prepared. Preparing and planning are not exactly the same thing.

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  115. Scott Rasmussen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scott Rasmussen, the political pollster.

  116. Voting Systems, Diebold et al by companydroid · · Score: 1

    I would simply like to know when they're going to convene a panel of talented and gifted high school kids to put together a voting system that can be used across the country. They should be done by noon. It's just tabulating votes people. Diebold's system isn't rocket science,

  117. Anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anonymous

  118. Andrew Tannenbaum by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 2

    He runs electoral-vote.com and also wrote a textbook on operating systems that many of us read as undergrads.

  119. RON PAUL is my vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ron Paul is the only decent choice. All other candidates are controlled by their donations *cough*bribes*cough* and don't care about the average person.

  120. It's all about the looks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This actually works surprisingly well - electoral-headhunter.com - and no need to listen to any boring viewpoints. Hail science!

  121. If limited government was the norm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then every politician but Ron Paul would be considered radical and crazy. Since unlimited government is the norm in today's world, obviously he would be the one to be singled out.

  122. Buddy Roemer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although you wouldn't know it from the debates, Buddy Roemer (@BuddyRoemer on Twitter) is a GOP candidate. He hasn't been invited to the debates because the GOP keeps changing the rules. He's a former Governor of Louisiana who was elected as a Democrat, then changed parties mid-term in 1991. He's been very vocal about getting money out of the political process (#GetMoneyOut) and only allows a maximum donation of $100 per person or entity. I'd like to just know more about him in general.

  123. Did you mean "running" or "ruining" a country? by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 1

    a) examples?
    b) try looking for it. Start at http://mises.org/ which is dedicated to offering solutions to getting out of this crisis.

    1. Re:Did you mean "running" or "ruining" a country? by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Examples for A, I'll pick problems with Rothbard:

      1) Rothbard's predictions that markets could not have indifferent utility functions i.e. situations where notably goods can substitute for one another frictionless.
      2) The predictive power of linear modeling of supply demand curves
      3) Virtually everything proven in welfare economics. In particular Rothbard believed that preferences were absolute and not relative to neighbor's exchanges.
      4) The effects of monetary expansion on productive output is testable and fully consistent with Keynesian formulas

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      As for (b) I said "as useful". Austrians do have something to say, and a good Hayak style bankruptcy / liquidation would help a ton. There is far too much friction in our liquidation processes and the Austrians are absolutely right about that. However... far easier would be lots of government spending and some inflation.

  124. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    The last time the US federal government mandated water efficiency improvements in toilets was, oh, the early 90s I think.

    Prior to that, most toilets in the USA were 3.5 gallon per flush, and had been of the same design for around a hundred years. Many were even less efficient - I lived in a house with a five-gallon flush (which I replaced with a 1.6 gallon model) and I've heard of seven-gallon models.

    Because private innovation had completely ceased in toilet design, and because of the United States' extremely forseeable water problems in the arid southwest (which involve not only US citizens but also Mexico; water is a political and national security issue in Central America) a coalition of legislators forced toilet installers and vendors to innovate by public law.

    The toilet makers, despite having had literally years of warning that this would happen, did not invest in new designs until after the law passed. They then attempted to sell toilets that were designed for high flush volume refitted with low volume tanks. These toilets were horrible - they had to be flushed repeatedly in normal use, they clogged constantly, they were just awful.

    Because the market rewards innovation that improves customer satisfaction, and nobody was buying replacement toilets because the new ones were known to be awful, innovation... happened. The 1.6 gallon per flush toilets are, today, cheap and effective.

    I know this because I've been installing toilets for decades at my house, my parents' house, and at several of my friends houses. I also have a close friend who does plumbing professionally; he has installed dozens if not hundreds of toilets.

    But Rand Paul is using the perception that toilets are no good due to federal law (a partial truth at one time, but now completely untrue) as a political meme. He is, esentially, using a lie to drive his anti-regulatory agenda, which is particularly egregious since the regulations in question have actually worked to remedy a free market failure in a way that is beneficial to the USA as a nation. This sort of calculating misrepresentation is not something I have ever seen his father do. Furthermore, in the past Ron Paul has admitted it when he has made misjudgements - look at the evolution of his views on church, state, and sexuality, for a good example - and I've never seen Rand Paul do that.

    Sorry about the long post, but since you're in Germany I figured you'd need the details to understand the context in which I was criticizing Rand Paul.

  125. I am planning on running for office by Glsai · · Score: 1

    Granted it would be an independent run for a state house seat. I live in a rural part of the state and plan to run as a pure independent. I've begun laying the groundwork for my campaign including web design and planning ways of fundraising and how to get my name out there. I plan on leveraging technology to help me compete in the race, allowing me to be in touch with each and every member of district. I say plan to run throughout my post as I have to collect the necessary signatures for my petition to get on the ballot, and they can only be collected within a short period next year.

  126. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    Rand Paul seems to throw in a little bit of Palin-esque stupidity on purpose to minimize GOP fear of him, and to not ostracize the part of the electorate that is scared of the fact that his father is often talking to them like intelligent adults.

    Hmmm, interesting idea. He'd probably gather more than he'd lose with that strategy, since the Tea Party crowd is effectively leaderless. And he wouldn't be the first politician to play dumb on purpose.

    I think I'll reserve judgment on this for now, but I'll certainly keep your comment in mind when I look at Rand Paul's activities in the future. Thanks!

  127. A constitutional amendment was NOT required by mounthood · · Score: 1

    Alcohol was banned in many places prior to prohibition. The constitutional amendment was to ban it everywhere, and make it hard to undo. The War on Drugs should be questioned, but not like this.

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    1. Re:A constitutional amendment was NOT required by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Alcohol was banned in many places prior to prohibition. The constitutional amendment was to ban it everywhere, and make it hard to undo. The War on Drugs should be questioned, but not like this.

      Actually...that IS my point. If a state or local govt wants to ban or regulate something like an intoxicant, it should be a states' rights issue. The feds should have no say if CA wants to allow medicinal use of marijuana, or even legalize it outright.

      That's the point of my question....how the feds can do this to any substance, if in the past the feds had to have a constitutional amendment to do it for the whole US and supersede state laws.

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    2. Re:A constitutional amendment was NOT required by mounthood · · Score: 1

      The federal government didn't enact laws against alcohol, but that doesn't mean it couldn't. Said another way, just because the first federal law was a constitutional amendment, that doesn't mean it _had_ to be an amendment. Anyway, if you want to question the War on Drugs there's no need to tangle it up with states rights.

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    3. Re:A constitutional amendment was NOT required by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      The feds are the ones who are making it a States rights issue. Too many states are allowing limited sales of marijuana and the Federals are getting perturbed and plan on stomping this out. It's none of their fucking business but that wont even slow them down and the Supreme Court will most likely let them get by with it since they think the Federal Government isn't limited by the 10th amendment.

  128. Bill Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to see Bill Still. He has a somewhat better grasp than Ron Paul and not nearly as crazy.

  129. Thank You! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am unsure of ./ readership in New Mexico, but have announced my candidacy for State Representative for my District.

    I am registered as a Democrat, but, my website (thomasbrungard.com) will reveal no hardcore political ideological bindings.

    Being I have never held office, or been involved in politics in any way, running against a 12-Term Representative; I have zero professional help. Anything and everything that I have out, and that I answer, is my own opinions and thoughts - nothing boiled down to soundbites.

    This is an amazing opportunity, and I thank ./ for posting it. I have tried for two months to get people to talk to me about what issues they feel are important, and how they would like them addressed. I have my own opinions, but realize that I am running to represent the voice of the People; and, logically, I cannot have considered every situation and circumstance and so would like to hear rational arguments against my ideas. I am willing to change my stance based on what the People want, provided I hear a persuasive case (not simply due to polls changing).

    I have put out my e-mail (listen@thomasbrungard.com) as well as phone number (505.410.3134) - so see no reason why I cannot share them publicly here.

    Thank you for anyone who reads this for your time.

  130. John Stewart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's interviewed a lot of candidates, he has some great insight. Could give some good advice, And will be entertaining(if he agrees).

  131. Several people by unum15 · · Score: 1

    Lawrence Lessig(rootstrikers,creativecommons,eldrid v ashcroft, etc)
    Bruce Schneier(security related concerns, as well as electronic voting)
    Nate Silver(fivethirtyeight.com)(several people have already mentioned Tannenbaum(my favorite))
    Jon Stewart(alway entertaining usually insightful)
    Pete Ashdown(ran against Sen. Orrin Hatch, may be doing so again(Will annouce on the Nov. 11th, also founded an ISP in 1992 and runs a non profit dedicated to repurposing computers(I have been involved in this campaign in the past and sit on the board of the non profit with him)) pashdown@pashdown.org
    Rick BoucherForced out in last election but always a big supporter of copyright/patent reform.

    I wish I could share all of polling stuff I know(just left a job for a major pollster after six years), but about all I can share is this.

    Message testing is not push polling. It is message testing. Yes, it can be hard to tell the difference, but if they are asking for statistical information, it's probably an actual poll, not a push poll or voter identification.

  132. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    Actually, I do live in the U.S. I worked in Germany for 4 months in 2004. Now my occupation is somewhat different, and if I could, I would import the German toilets (you know the Germans always make good stuff) to independent retailers, and I doubt I would be the only one. It's likely the market would grow as many people are conservation minded, and demonstrating that the toilets use less water than the 1.6 gpf would be very easy to do.

    What concerns me most about these issues is that they violate the Constitution. The Constitution grants Congress very specific and limited powers. Mandating the gpf of toilets is not one of the enumerated powers, and I think this was Rand Paul's larger point.

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    I once took an excursion to Reddit, and later HN. Unlimited up/down voting sucks when dealing with a hive-mind.

  133. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    I disagree with that interpretation of the Constitution - the power to encourage progress in the useful arts and sciences through regulation is clearly included by the United States Constitution, Article One, Section 8, Clause 8 as well as in the preamble. Furthermore, water conservation is a military and political issue because of the situation with Mexico, and thus it falls under the federal government's mandate to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure liberty. It doesn't mention gpf, sure, or toilets - but it also doesn't mention bullets, soldiers' hats, or grenades, even though those are equally clearly covered by the defense mandate. You can't expect the constitution to talk specifically by name about things that weren't conceived of at the time it was written.

    However, I do see your point, and I admit the government could have achieved the same end (promoting innovation in waste and sanitation tech) by reforming intellectual property law and reforming the rigging of the economic system that prevents home-garage entrepreneurs from being able to compete with entrenched corporations. Right now, if you don't have a million bucks in venture capital, Kohler and their buddies will crush you with toilets mass produced in China; this situation prevents progress (in the absence of regulation, that is).

    All that being said, I don't see Ron/Rand Paul's "business friendly" approach changing that problem any time soon. I respect their wish for less restriction of individual persons' rights, but until they strongly oppose corporate personhood their agenda is putting the cart before the horse. Corporations already have too many rights without corresponding responsibilities or accountability. Strip them of personhood first, then give people stronger rights - people have responsibilities (like jury duty, for one example) that corporations should not, and likewise corporations should not have any human rights.

    And finally I still say Rand Paul doesn't know crap about toilets, and is grandstanding using false claims that play to ignorance, and it makes me respect him far less than his father. Ron Paul is more intellectually honest.

  134. Grover Norquist's answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because I can.

  135. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    Some time ago I determined that the Constitution could not be an ambiguous document to be interpreted any way any reader likes. I have been involved in relatively high-level contract negotiations in the private sector and my experience is that ambiguous anything in legal documents just doesn't happen, and the same would have been true for the Constitution. There was a considerable amount of national attention on this legal document, and I just can't see anyone agreeing to a document that doesn't provide crystal-clear meanings and rock-solid guarantees.

    It is with this that I have endeavored to find what the original ratifiers of the Constitution intended it to mean. Ratifiers are more important than framers because the Constitution is a grant of powers by the ratifiers; meaning that they are the ones with the final say-so on what the Constitution means, and on most things they left a very clear paper trail describing what they want to accomplish with the Constitution. The best book I have found with this line of thinking is The Original Constitution by Robert G. Natelson.

    With regards to Article One, Section 8, the Constitution states "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." Natelson states that this is something legally known as a 'special limitation':

    A special limitation is a restriction that, whatever its actual wording, can be expressed by the phrase “so long as.” For example, Congress could “promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts”—by [so long as it was done by] “securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.”

    There is no "mandate to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure liberty." The General Welfare Clause states: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." This is also a special limitation, as it can be read that having the power to lay and collect taxes is only used so long as it is for the common defense and general welfare. This is a limitation, not a grant of powers. If we were to read the General Welfare clause as meaning that Congress can do whatever it wishes as long as it deems these things to be for general welfare or common defense, then why follow such a statement with a list of enumerated powers? During the ratification, the people were most concerned with an out of control centralized government. To say that they would have given such a government unlimited powers is to completely misunderstand their single biggest goal.

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  136. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    I can't agree that adding words to a contract or other legal document is a legitimate way to increase one's understanding of it. I'm not going to be able to take seriously any argument based on that idea.

    It seems to me that the clear intent of the framers and of the document is that the federal government's ability regulate should be restricted to regulations that can be equally applied across all individual states. Mandates for efficiency, which are a subset of mandates for minimum product quality (which the framers quite clearly supported) cannot be imposed only on a particular class, they must be uniform. It does not limit them in any other way unless you add something to the text - "general welfare" is pretty obviously intended to be a broad brush.

    Today, of course, we have the pork-barrel-of-the-week legislation designed to benefit one particular corporation, community or industry at the expense of all others; clearly not what was intended by "uniform" and "general".

  137. Re:Michael Palin by fortapocalypse · · Score: 1

    Michael Palin

    There. Fixed it for you.

  138. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    I'll agree that the new 1.6 gallon toilets are much, much better today than when first mandated they are not superior to the older 3 gallon models. I concede the necessity for water conservation and I can live with the 1.6 model I have now but it's not a better toilet. Not by any means. I've never ever used a 1.6 that was quite as good as the 3 gallon except for the ones with the jet tank using pressure. Those work very well. I plan to buy one soon.

  139. Re:Rand Paul is riding his fathers' coat-tails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you buy a jet tank, keep in mind that children often find the noise frightening, and sometimes littler kids will be too scared to use them.

    The 1.6 gpf toilets I've installed recently were as good as (but not better than) the old, high-volume toilets they replaced. Supposedly the 1.3 gpf ones are getting better, too, but I haven't installed any of those in my house.