A good post but with all due respect you won't get anywhere on/. without a standard/. car analogy
Anonymous is a plain vanilla daily driver with no plates and the VIN and serial numbers torched off and otherwise is moments away from getting the chop shop treatment. If you wipe the fingerprints off the controls, I think it would be quite a challenge to figure out who owns it.
Pseudonymous is a rather "unique" customized car and no plates, like a race track car. Everyone trivially knows it on sight, but it would take a lot of work and "special access" to legally prove title in a court of law. Maybe the engine computer ODBII has a serial number and maybe the emissions tester guys store it? Maybe the combination of non-stock tire and chassis is semi-unique and the owner paid for that combination at a local tire store with a check or credit card? Maybe the radio had the warantee card sent in with true information or the serial on the receipt connected to the credit card to pay for it?
Identified is like the guy in my home town who somewhat skillfully modified his pickup truck from a "Ford" to a "Floyd". Let me take a WAG as to the owner's name. How about that mostly white container truck with the words "fedex" on the sides, I'm guessing thats almost certainly a fedex truck.
Can I pay my utility bills with them? No. Can I may my mortgage with them? No. Can I go into most shops or online stores and buy stuff with them? No.
However, I most certainly can do all of the above with them. Since they're "worthless" to you, would you mind giving me all of yours? Oh, they're "too valuable" to give away? Oh OK then.
If anyone wants to get rid of some, get in touch with me. I'll gladly take those worthless digital objects off your hands for free.
The timing of recent events was in my view largely down to News Intl's BSkyB takeover bid
Hmm. I wonder who had "interesting" stock options on that deal that profited by the collapse of the deal. There's a reason why the 9/11/2001 stock options positions have never been released, and probably never will.
It didnt just "blow up right now"...the general public was like "meh"
When it was found out that Millie Dowler's phone, July 7th victims, and other "normal" peoples phones got hacked that public opinion changed significantly.
So it didn't "blow up right now" except that it did "blow up right now"?
I had to sit thru headlines about them hacking 9-11 victim's phones.... So that was sat on from 9-11-2001 until the summer of 2011... Who benefits?
All the worms have turned; Rupe's only real hope is that an even bigger scandal or event will divert everyone's attention.
Maybe he orchestrated it himself intentionally thinking its too small in a year of big news?
We're busy with the US debt ceiling kabuki theatre, the country of greece financially collapsing along with Iceland, Ireland, and Portugal, while trying to drag France, Spain, and Germany down with them, this spring there were riots in the middle east, civil war in Libya, collapse in the value of fiat currencies vs metals, explosive inflation in food prices, the dead cat bounce in housing prices has ended and decline back to normal prices has resumed, endless saber rattling in Iran, some hot chick married a dude in England who has famous parents and it was all over TV for weeks, that congresswoman who got shot in the head in AZ had her husband fly in the space shuttle which is shutting down, the normal weather related disasters somewhere in the immense USA are being hyped more than normal, China is beginning to collapse both financially and infrastructurally, a bridge in CA was demolished on schedule, oh and in addition to the big news, there's this guy listening to voicemails, if you have any attention left to pay.
The only thing we're missing is some shark attacks, or maybe starting yet another war.
It didn't work out, but I can see why a guy would think people might be slightly distracted.
But the Murdochs are hated by many, including those in the media industry. They smell blood and the Murdochs are the chum de jour.
The question to ask is why now? Its not like he was doing some Dr Jeckel and Mr Hyde thing and was a sweet little old lady up until last month or so. He's pretty much consistently been himself for longer than the entire "scandal". Who benefits in money or power by it blowing up RIGHT now? I don't really know.
The reason the superbowel winning football team is reported and fawned over with media puff pieces on the day after the superbowel is because its current news.
On the other hand, this "scandal" has been quietly festering for about a dogs life. So why have the powers that be blown it up right now? There must be a reason beyond "they're bored" or some anonymous / Lulz / goonsquad "sounds like fun to me".
Why do people keep posting things like "even texans have to evolve"? Maybe I've spent too much time listening to College PC curricula, but that strikes me as being highly offensive.
Ever met a Texan male, or even female? I have. They're inordinately proud of being tough, surviving heat, hurricanes, insects the size of grapefruit, perhaps all at the same time, then they get drunk(er) and start rambling about the Alamo, glossing over the TX side getting pretty much wiped out, or they get drunk(er) and ramble on about their wimmen being more attractive than any other states wimmen, and their men being the manliest, depending on their sex. If they don't brag about human males or females, note TX doesn't have goats just cows, well, they're uh "proud" of their cows too, in a biblical sense. Anyway their point, which I agree with, is Texans overall meet "evolutionary selection pressure" head on, and are inordinately proud that they mostly thrive. So the pun is a combination of Texans traditional and well known loudly lovin their success (and occasional failure) against evolutionary selection pressure, vs their weird religious views and the obvious topic of this story.
Disagree with me? Find some drunken lout of a Texan football player, and tell him he isn't tough, and his paternal ancestors weren't tough, and they must all reproduce by cloning or something because there's no reproduction of the fittest going on in his family tree. After removing desert cactus from tender area, meet back here and discuss your scientific findings.
US still need to work a lot. 51% of americans do not believe in evolution.
A lot of work has been put into conversational doublespeak such that the same word "believe" is used for both:
1) Irrational brainwashed notions to be assumed unthinkingly as fact; evidence is irrelevant because if in support, duh, if not in support, its just devil testing the viewer.
2) Scientific bets made using this theory haven't been proven wrong yet, despite immense intellectual effort, so its unlikely to be proven completely wrong in the future.
It's intentional that conversations are phrased that way... keeps the masses under control and unthinking.
Personally I don't "believe" in evolution either, at least not in the first sense above. I think its about 1e100 times more likely that evolution is correct than any one of the ten thousand mutually incompatible known non-extinct religions is correct.
The Russians used their copy to try and hold up the roof of a collapsing warehouse... that didn't work out so well.
Honestly the most useful thing they could do would be a heck of a lot of destructive testing. You could argue they've already been doing that for the past 30 years, at least twice to failure (along with lots of non-mission impacting single engine failures, leaks, etc). I'm talking a little more extreme, for example, chop the wings up and analyze the heck out of them for the effect of orbital radiation on metal fatigue development patterns, etc. The skin runs at a ridiculously high pressurization, like 15 PSI, everything else in aerospace runs 8 psi max, so chop up the crew cabin and analyze that for pressurization related metal fatigue.
You know how civil / mech engineers are supposedly given iron rings made from "X collapsed bridge" at graduation to remind them not to build stupid things, maybe aerospace engineers (or more appropriately, MBAs) should be given o-ring and ceramic tile necklaces?
Why not have a voluntary blood test for everyone in the country, once a year. Use the blood to screen for every known disease. If done on a massive scale it could save hundreds of billions of dollars a year just by catching various terminal illnesses in their early stages.
This would probably work better in a country with...
... euthanasia, otherwise they'll just run up higher bills before croaking. So if my relative made the hospital $25K/month for liver cancer treatment, and they diagnosed him a month before he died, they made $25K. If somehow diagnosed 10 months before death, they could have made $25K/month for ten months, earning a quarter mil of revenue for the hospital, at a cost of losing nine months of "normal life" for the patient. Hmm more money for the medical industrial complex, lowered quality of life for the patient, according to the hospital management, whats not to love?
Now if you meant to write chronic instead of terminal, like high blood pressure or glaucoma, you'd have an excellent point.
My grandmother had glaucoma... I'm scared to get tested, because if I do have it, I may never get any form of medical care again, and what if I break my leg in a car accident 3 years from now? I don't want to go blind in 3 decades, but I don't want to be crippled and/or live under a freeway overpass in 3 years without any medical care, so its quite a decision to make...
The whole thing depends on the number of false positives.
From reading the fine article, about 1/5 false pos and about 1/5 false neg.
The spinal fluid test is supposed to be 100% effective although obviously dangerous. Assuming you're not an undiagnosed hemophiliac the blood test should be perfectly safe and make a decent pre-screener for the spinal test.
I'm not sure what the point is; A blood flow test was quite handy for my grandmother who found a 90% artery blockage and had surgery and some lifestyle and medication changes, which overall both dramatically lengthened and improved her life. On the other hand, watching my aunt-in-law from afar, Alzheimer's treatment seems to be little more than "keep her warm and happy, exactly like you'd do if she didn't have it".
So other than denying medical insurance coverage to people with it, what good does it do?
The obvious explanation is the reporter is passively supporting the guy's beliefs, by covering up his more inflammatory comments. In other words an agreement in principle, but disagreement in practice./. videogame analogy: If you want to show grannie GTA3, you show her the start where you ride a bicycle thru the streets and alleys; its cool and peaceful, mostly. Don't show grannie the "hot coffee" mod, just casually mention there's also some "adult content" besides the bicycle thing.
because the statute doesn't criminalize 'predictions or exhortations to others to injure... the president
I thought the reasoning behind that statue was not a purely arbitrary free speech line in the sand, but to not mess with religious nuts who must always be placated in this country? Pretty much the definition of a religion is a group that claims the non-members are at least going to hell, if not worse, hence you should be thrilled you were dragged into the cult. Well you know what they say about hell, the clientele is a lot of fun but the climate is unpleasantly toasty, kind of like Vegas. Anyway their intention is it is supposed to be a punishment. Therefore all/almost all fire and brimstone religions would be criminalized unless either the prez happened to be a member, or their god told them to give the prez a free pass.
Even a pacifistic Buddhist interpretation, would be the prez seems inevitably toward reincarnation as a dung beetle at best; most would consider being a dung beetle as an "injurious" condition for the prez.
Usually american govt style is to make everyone a criminal; makes them easier to control. Its interesting to see the contrast with the other style, of always sucking up to hateful religious extremists.
stunt emotional development, leaving... anxieties and fears that are ultimately worse than a broken bone......, or else it will be too boring in the long run,' says professor Ellen Sandseter...... approach thrills and risks in a progressive manner,..... The best thing is to let... encounter these challenges from an early age, and they will then progressively learn to master them through their play over the years.'
I've always *loved* Google Labs! It's where I first bumped into "suggest," and a whole bunch of other really cool features that have eventually been rolled into the final product.
I'm very, very sad. Used to be a Red Hat Labs that suffered the same fate; I guess that sort of paradigm just doesn't have enough energy for the long run.
They haven't discovered a new fundamental particle. All they've done is to arrange some quarks into an arrangement we've already known about.
This is an engineering accomplishment -- sticking together an up, a strange, and a bottom quark to make a bound state. It doesn't represent any great discovery in physics; people have known for a long while that such a particle exists, simply from the properties of quarks. In fact, lattice QCD has been able to simulate such things for a while now, and (although I have not seen such a result) could calculate its mass.
Making a big deal about this could be a political move, since the Tevatron (the particle accelerator that the CDF is attached to) is due to shut down soon.
The space shuttle is merely a peculiar arrangement of aluminum atoms, nothing to see there...
1) Do any books in this genre, or this book itself, discuss real world case studies of either success or failure of the giant bureaucracies they propose? Not just a list of unaddressed threats or "wouldn't it be cool if..."
2) I envision that a giant bureaucracy large enough to support the traditional book publishing flow, etc, is going to be way too slow to keep up with an individual 2600 reader. How to measure and handle the lag? Does the book discuss that?
Its funny when they clone an apple store to the tiniest detail. Not so funny when they get around to cloning a vaccine manufacturer, or any other pharmaceutical, except skipping that expensive testing part.
Uranus's moons joke arriving in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... "I always knew goatse was a scientific curiosity, but thought it was a biological one, not astronomical."
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A good post but with all due respect you won't get anywhere on /. without a standard /. car analogy
Anonymous is a plain vanilla daily driver with no plates and the VIN and serial numbers torched off and otherwise is moments away from getting the chop shop treatment. If you wipe the fingerprints off the controls, I think it would be quite a challenge to figure out who owns it.
Pseudonymous is a rather "unique" customized car and no plates, like a race track car. Everyone trivially knows it on sight, but it would take a lot of work and "special access" to legally prove title in a court of law. Maybe the engine computer ODBII has a serial number and maybe the emissions tester guys store it? Maybe the combination of non-stock tire and chassis is semi-unique and the owner paid for that combination at a local tire store with a check or credit card? Maybe the radio had the warantee card sent in with true information or the serial on the receipt connected to the credit card to pay for it?
Identified is like the guy in my home town who somewhat skillfully modified his pickup truck from a "Ford" to a "Floyd". Let me take a WAG as to the owner's name. How about that mostly white container truck with the words "fedex" on the sides, I'm guessing thats almost certainly a fedex truck.
In ye olden days it would have been "slashdot ebook" "slashdot e-ink". How they missed "slashdot paket" is a mystery to me.
Can I pay my utility bills with them? No. Can I may my mortgage with them? No. Can I go into most shops or online stores and buy stuff with them? No.
However, I most certainly can do all of the above with them. Since they're "worthless" to you, would you mind giving me all of yours? Oh, they're "too valuable" to give away? Oh OK then.
If anyone wants to get rid of some, get in touch with me. I'll gladly take those worthless digital objects off your hands for free.
The timing of recent events was in my view largely down to News Intl's BSkyB takeover bid
Hmm. I wonder who had "interesting" stock options on that deal that profited by the collapse of the deal. There's a reason why the 9/11/2001 stock options positions have never been released, and probably never will.
It didnt just "blow up right now"...the general public was like "meh"
When it was found out that Millie Dowler's phone, July 7th victims, and other "normal" peoples phones got hacked that public opinion changed significantly.
So it didn't "blow up right now" except that it did "blow up right now"?
I had to sit thru headlines about them hacking 9-11 victim's phones.... So that was sat on from 9-11-2001 until the summer of 2011... Who benefits?
I think you're making my point for me...
All the worms have turned; Rupe's only real hope is that an even bigger scandal or event will divert everyone's attention.
Maybe he orchestrated it himself intentionally thinking its too small in a year of big news?
We're busy with the US debt ceiling kabuki theatre, the country of greece financially collapsing along with Iceland, Ireland, and Portugal, while trying to drag France, Spain, and Germany down with them, this spring there were riots in the middle east, civil war in Libya, collapse in the value of fiat currencies vs metals, explosive inflation in food prices, the dead cat bounce in housing prices has ended and decline back to normal prices has resumed, endless saber rattling in Iran, some hot chick married a dude in England who has famous parents and it was all over TV for weeks, that congresswoman who got shot in the head in AZ had her husband fly in the space shuttle which is shutting down, the normal weather related disasters somewhere in the immense USA are being hyped more than normal, China is beginning to collapse both financially and infrastructurally, a bridge in CA was demolished on schedule, oh and in addition to the big news, there's this guy listening to voicemails, if you have any attention left to pay.
The only thing we're missing is some shark attacks, or maybe starting yet another war.
It didn't work out, but I can see why a guy would think people might be slightly distracted.
But the Murdochs are hated by many, including those in the media industry. They smell blood and the Murdochs are the chum de jour.
The question to ask is why now? Its not like he was doing some Dr Jeckel and Mr Hyde thing and was a sweet little old lady up until last month or so. He's pretty much consistently been himself for longer than the entire "scandal". Who benefits in money or power by it blowing up RIGHT now? I don't really know.
The reason the superbowel winning football team is reported and fawned over with media puff pieces on the day after the superbowel is because its current news.
On the other hand, this "scandal" has been quietly festering for about a dogs life. So why have the powers that be blown it up right now? There must be a reason beyond "they're bored" or some anonymous / Lulz / goonsquad "sounds like fun to me".
Why do people keep posting things like "even texans have to evolve"? Maybe I've spent too much time listening to College PC curricula, but that strikes me as being highly offensive.
Ever met a Texan male, or even female? I have. They're inordinately proud of being tough, surviving heat, hurricanes, insects the size of grapefruit, perhaps all at the same time, then they get drunk(er) and start rambling about the Alamo, glossing over the TX side getting pretty much wiped out, or they get drunk(er) and ramble on about their wimmen being more attractive than any other states wimmen, and their men being the manliest, depending on their sex. If they don't brag about human males or females, note TX doesn't have goats just cows, well, they're uh "proud" of their cows too, in a biblical sense. Anyway their point, which I agree with, is Texans overall meet "evolutionary selection pressure" head on, and are inordinately proud that they mostly thrive. So the pun is a combination of Texans traditional and well known loudly lovin their success (and occasional failure) against evolutionary selection pressure, vs their weird religious views and the obvious topic of this story.
Disagree with me? Find some drunken lout of a Texan football player, and tell him he isn't tough, and his paternal ancestors weren't tough, and they must all reproduce by cloning or something because there's no reproduction of the fittest going on in his family tree. After removing desert cactus from tender area, meet back here and discuss your scientific findings.
US still need to work a lot. 51% of americans do not believe in evolution.
A lot of work has been put into conversational doublespeak such that the same word "believe" is used for both:
1) Irrational brainwashed notions to be assumed unthinkingly as fact; evidence is irrelevant because if in support, duh, if not in support, its just devil testing the viewer.
2) Scientific bets made using this theory haven't been proven wrong yet, despite immense intellectual effort, so its unlikely to be proven completely wrong in the future.
It's intentional that conversations are phrased that way... keeps the masses under control and unthinking.
Personally I don't "believe" in evolution either, at least not in the first sense above. I think its about 1e100 times more likely that evolution is correct than any one of the ten thousand mutually incompatible known non-extinct religions is correct.
The Russians used their copy to try and hold up the roof of a collapsing warehouse... that didn't work out so well.
Honestly the most useful thing they could do would be a heck of a lot of destructive testing. You could argue they've already been doing that for the past 30 years, at least twice to failure (along with lots of non-mission impacting single engine failures, leaks, etc). I'm talking a little more extreme, for example, chop the wings up and analyze the heck out of them for the effect of orbital radiation on metal fatigue development patterns, etc. The skin runs at a ridiculously high pressurization, like 15 PSI, everything else in aerospace runs 8 psi max, so chop up the crew cabin and analyze that for pressurization related metal fatigue.
You know how civil / mech engineers are supposedly given iron rings made from "X collapsed bridge" at graduation to remind them not to build stupid things, maybe aerospace engineers (or more appropriately, MBAs) should be given o-ring and ceramic tile necklaces?
Why not have a voluntary blood test for everyone in the country, once a year. Use the blood to screen for every known disease. If done on a massive scale it could save hundreds of billions of dollars a year just by catching various terminal illnesses in their early stages.
This would probably work better in a country with ...
... euthanasia, otherwise they'll just run up higher bills before croaking. So if my relative made the hospital $25K/month for liver cancer treatment, and they diagnosed him a month before he died, they made $25K. If somehow diagnosed 10 months before death, they could have made $25K/month for ten months, earning a quarter mil of revenue for the hospital, at a cost of losing nine months of "normal life" for the patient. Hmm more money for the medical industrial complex, lowered quality of life for the patient, according to the hospital management, whats not to love?
Now if you meant to write chronic instead of terminal, like high blood pressure or glaucoma, you'd have an excellent point.
My grandmother had glaucoma... I'm scared to get tested, because if I do have it, I may never get any form of medical care again, and what if I break my leg in a car accident 3 years from now? I don't want to go blind in 3 decades, but I don't want to be crippled and/or live under a freeway overpass in 3 years without any medical care, so its quite a decision to make...
The whole thing depends on the number of false positives.
From reading the fine article, about 1/5 false pos and about 1/5 false neg.
The spinal fluid test is supposed to be 100% effective although obviously dangerous. Assuming you're not an undiagnosed hemophiliac the blood test should be perfectly safe and make a decent pre-screener for the spinal test.
I'm not sure what the point is; A blood flow test was quite handy for my grandmother who found a 90% artery blockage and had surgery and some lifestyle and medication changes, which overall both dramatically lengthened and improved her life. On the other hand, watching my aunt-in-law from afar, Alzheimer's treatment seems to be little more than "keep her warm and happy, exactly like you'd do if she didn't have it".
So other than denying medical insurance coverage to people with it, what good does it do?
... is you keep having to take it.
... every time you sign up with a new for profit health insurance company ...
The obvious explanation is the reporter is passively supporting the guy's beliefs, by covering up his more inflammatory comments. In other words an agreement in principle, but disagreement in practice. /. videogame analogy: If you want to show grannie GTA3, you show her the start where you ride a bicycle thru the streets and alleys; its cool and peaceful, mostly. Don't show grannie the "hot coffee" mod, just casually mention there's also some "adult content" besides the bicycle thing.
amounted to free speech
Sure about that?
because the statute doesn't criminalize 'predictions or exhortations to others to injure ... the president
I thought the reasoning behind that statue was not a purely arbitrary free speech line in the sand, but to not mess with religious nuts who must always be placated in this country? Pretty much the definition of a religion is a group that claims the non-members are at least going to hell, if not worse, hence you should be thrilled you were dragged into the cult. Well you know what they say about hell, the clientele is a lot of fun but the climate is unpleasantly toasty, kind of like Vegas. Anyway their intention is it is supposed to be a punishment. Therefore all/almost all fire and brimstone religions would be criminalized unless either the prez happened to be a member, or their god told them to give the prez a free pass.
Even a pacifistic Buddhist interpretation, would be the prez seems inevitably toward reincarnation as a dung beetle at best; most would consider being a dung beetle as an "injurious" condition for the prez.
Usually american govt style is to make everyone a criminal; makes them easier to control. Its interesting to see the contrast with the other style, of always sucking up to hateful religious extremists.
stunt emotional development, leaving ... anxieties and fears that are ultimately worse than a broken bone......, or else it will be too boring in the long run,' says professor Ellen Sandseter. ..... approach thrills and risks in a progressive manner, ..... The best thing is to let ... encounter these challenges from an early age, and they will then progressively learn to master them through their play over the years.'
That's why I don't use or allow sudo.
I've always *loved* Google Labs! It's where I first bumped into "suggest," and a whole bunch of other really cool features that have eventually been rolled into the final product.
I'm very, very sad. Used to be a Red Hat Labs that suffered the same fate; I guess that sort of paradigm just doesn't have enough energy for the long run.
*sigh*
Bell Labs?
They haven't discovered a new fundamental particle. All they've done is to arrange some quarks into an arrangement we've already known about.
This is an engineering accomplishment -- sticking together an up, a strange, and a bottom quark to make a bound state. It doesn't represent any great discovery in physics; people have known for a long while that such a particle exists, simply from the properties of quarks. In fact, lattice QCD has been able to simulate such things for a while now, and (although I have not seen such a result) could calculate its mass.
Making a big deal about this could be a political move, since the Tevatron (the particle accelerator that the CDF is attached to) is due to shut down soon.
The space shuttle is merely a peculiar arrangement of aluminum atoms, nothing to see there...
Despite being posted by an AC, I can confirm thats the real thing and not a link to the 2G1C particle or something like that.
Check out the multi-page list of authors... lots of people getting resume stuffing today.
If you'd prefer a link to the actual release instead ofconceivablytech's take on it:
http://www.fnal.gov/pub/presspass/press_releases/2011/CDF-Xi-sub-b-observation-20110720.html
does anyone have the arXiv link to the actual paper, not the PR fluff?
1) Do any books in this genre, or this book itself, discuss real world case studies of either success or failure of the giant bureaucracies they propose? Not just a list of unaddressed threats or "wouldn't it be cool if ..."
2) I envision that a giant bureaucracy large enough to support the traditional book publishing flow, etc, is going to be way too slow to keep up with an individual 2600 reader. How to measure and handle the lag? Does the book discuss that?
How small does your penis have to be for this to compensate?
Naw, thats the guys who buy 5 mpg trucks and send him their gas money.
Most likely they're compensating for having no arable land, and too much money floating around too many unemployed people.
Its only funny because he's in another culture. Over there, he's probably laughing at our makework projects like "bridges to nowhere" etc.
Its funny when they clone an apple store to the tiniest detail. Not so funny when they get around to cloning a vaccine manufacturer, or any other pharmaceutical, except skipping that expensive testing part.
Do we need to have schoolchildren remember the names of hundreds of moon-bearing asteroids, I mean planets?
We're already at 53 planets. Whats one more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extrasolar_planets
The good news is the names are pretty easy. Whats the planet orbiting between Kepler-11 B and Kepler-11 D? Oh let me guess it's Kepler-11 C.
Uranus's moons joke arriving in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... "I always knew goatse was a scientific curiosity, but thought it was a biological one, not astronomical."
(was that any good?)