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All I see is you making unsubstatianted claims. i claim that prepackaged software constitute the bulk of software development. This includes application and entertainment for all computing devices.
Just because you guys say it ain't so doesn't make it true.
Wow - you used "loose" correctly but "loosing" incorrectly in the same post. Thats gotta be a first.
Re:So, you programmers ready to give up your jobs?
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Maybe its because selling shiny box software DOES make up the bulk of the current software industry? Just because you OSS people claim its not true, doesn't make it so.
The software industry is built around a closed source model where software is sold. This produces billions of dollars in revenue each year for thousands of companies.
I challenge you that external closed software sales make up the bulk of software development.
Since the parent corporation of Slashdot (LNUX on Nasdaq) is losing money they have requested Slashdot and the member websites to bring in more revenue. One way to do this is to post a higher rate of articles (haven't you noticed more articles this year than last?). The second way to do this is to post articles which are sure to bring the anti-M$/anti-Dubya crazies to the website posting insightful and frothy comments.
It must be nice to be caught in a reality distortion field. There is no excuse for Linux World presenters not to be using Linux/OSS for their presentations. The "projection equipment" is not dependent on Powerpoint - it simply uses the VGA output port.
BTW, this story is a hoax. The last time it supposedly occurred in September during a joint MS/Novell conference.
But dont let reality creep in!
No problem. Just admit you are not an Apple employee and I will admit I am not a Microsoft employee and that we both live in our parents basement and we will call it even. OK?
More proof that you don't work for Apple. Almost all of these exploits are for both OSX and OSX server (which makes sense since they are application exploits). Check the security update page.
But if any of the cgi scripts in my system use htdigest it is possible to exploit it remotely. I don't know if any of them do. I think I need to upgrade immediately.
Does the Apache exploit mentioned affect any other platforms that Apache runs on, or is it specific to OSX? Its a pretty severe one. I don't run closed source OSes (like OSX or Windows) but I would like to make sure that my Gentoo apache install is OK.
"I can't see anyone being inspired to read after playing GT-Vice City, or Doom 3."
Yes, that is why it is important to use the opportunities we have to force children to read to compel them to continue reading on their own. I know when I went to school I didn't like Shakespeare. I still don't like Shakespeare. I haven't read Shakespeare since I graduated from college. I also don't find many of the "classics" enjoyable. If those were the only books that I were ever exposed to I would not want to be a reader either. That is why even though I think the Harry Potter books are amazingly bad, I encourage children to read them as much as possible. Hopefully their interest in reading will continue. Reading bad books is better than reading no books.
I can accept and look past the lack of depth while reading sci-fi. It always seems to me that most sci-fi authors haven't ever met human beings to me before. I can also accept the flat writing. However, I missed the philosophical idea of "Enders Game". The responses I received above were enlightening though.
Ah! I didn't recognize that as even a plot in the book. I assumed that kids were interested with him because he possessed remarkable abilities that they wished they had themselves. Thanks!
I don't understand the fascination with this book. I found it very dry and poorly written. Most of the text seemed to revolve around "zero G" training tactics. I could not truly fathom why this would be an interesting primary subject.
Does the interest come from the fact that the main character was a juvenile, and that is the target readership? I read the book when I was in my twenties, on the sole basis of the rave reviews I have heard and the fact that it won so many SF awards. Maybe that is why I disliked the book so much, although I can see how other books targeted at this audience could be compelling (Harry Potter, et all).
I am interested in hearing comments from anyone who has read the book.
I think the comment about schools taking the joy out of reading refers to the fact that schools tend to choose irrelevant and/or boring required reading material. As a literate adult who enjoys good literature, I do realize that requiring students to read such uninteresting material as Shakespeare, the Mill on the Floss, etc is counterproductive.
In reality, books like "The Mill on the Floss" are boring. So boring that you never see a non-student reading them (do you?). Shakespeare is also boring (*gasp* I know!). The school system is convincing kids that reading is boring by forcing them to read this material.
There are many wonderful books out there. Lets choose something a bit more interesting. I am not suggesting tripe like most people read (insert latest lawyer-book-writer name here), but something a bit more relevant. Shakespeare is not sacred.
Wow, that is an odd outlook on life. You would take a job flipping burgers (a 'wage slave' job) over one that could give you the freedom from becoming a 'wage slave' when you graduate. Most interesting choice.
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All I see is you making unsubstatianted claims. i claim that prepackaged software constitute the bulk of software development. This includes application and entertainment for all computing devices. Just because you guys say it ain't so doesn't make it true.
Wow - you used "loose" correctly but "loosing" incorrectly in the same post. Thats gotta be a first.
Maybe its because selling shiny box software DOES make up the bulk of the current software industry? Just because you OSS people claim its not true, doesn't make it so.
The software industry is built around a closed source model where software is sold. This produces billions of dollars in revenue each year for thousands of companies.
I challenge you that external closed software sales make up the bulk of software development.
"but i for one can live with less corporate sponsored entertainment thank you"
Then shut up and do it.
Since the parent corporation of Slashdot (LNUX on Nasdaq) is losing money they have requested Slashdot and the member websites to bring in more revenue. One way to do this is to post a higher rate of articles (haven't you noticed more articles this year than last?). The second way to do this is to post articles which are sure to bring the anti-M$/anti-Dubya crazies to the website posting insightful and frothy comments.
It must be nice to be caught in a reality distortion field. There is no excuse for Linux World presenters not to be using Linux/OSS for their presentations. The "projection equipment" is not dependent on Powerpoint - it simply uses the VGA output port. BTW, this story is a hoax. The last time it supposedly occurred in September during a joint MS/Novell conference. But dont let reality creep in!
Yes. I will do that tommorrow. I have my annual review meeting with Gates and Ballmer today though.
No problem. Just admit you are not an Apple employee and I will admit I am not a Microsoft employee and that we both live in our parents basement and we will call it even. OK?
UM HELLO. This patch is for OSX and OSX Server. Please see http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301 528
Why is it the idiots always have the +1 Karma bonus.
Sorry, you are wrong. Please see http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301 528
This is Security Update 2005-005 we are discussing, not 004. More proof.
More proof that you don't work for Apple. Almost all of these exploits are for both OSX and OSX server (which makes sense since they are application exploits). Check the security update page.
You've been caught!
Wow, thats a great deal. So if I am a e-commerce business I should just pack up and go home until 5 months later when Apple decides to release fixes?
BTW, me working at MS is as much as a truth as you working at Apple.
You mean disable Apache? That was one of the remotely exploitable flaws. So I shouldn't use OSX for web services. Anything else?
I know here at Microsoft we make patches available in a timely manner - we don't wait 5 months (yes, some of those flaws were known for 5 months).
But if any of the cgi scripts in my system use htdigest it is possible to exploit it remotely. I don't know if any of them do. I think I need to upgrade immediately.
Does the Apache exploit mentioned affect any other platforms that Apache runs on, or is it specific to OSX? Its a pretty severe one. I don't run closed source OSes (like OSX or Windows) but I would like to make sure that my Gentoo apache install is OK.
So if I hack one Microsoft product (IIS) I get another (Xbox)? What is the second prize, two XBox's???
Friends don't let friends install Microsoft junk -- twitter
Just so you know and don't rush out to buy a PSP because there are "free" ISO's available:
This doesn't work for pirating games, simply because they don't sell disks big enough to fit a pirated ISO
"I can't see anyone being inspired to read after playing GT-Vice City, or Doom 3." Yes, that is why it is important to use the opportunities we have to force children to read to compel them to continue reading on their own. I know when I went to school I didn't like Shakespeare. I still don't like Shakespeare. I haven't read Shakespeare since I graduated from college. I also don't find many of the "classics" enjoyable. If those were the only books that I were ever exposed to I would not want to be a reader either. That is why even though I think the Harry Potter books are amazingly bad, I encourage children to read them as much as possible. Hopefully their interest in reading will continue. Reading bad books is better than reading no books.
I can accept and look past the lack of depth while reading sci-fi. It always seems to me that most sci-fi authors haven't ever met human beings to me before. I can also accept the flat writing. However, I missed the philosophical idea of "Enders Game". The responses I received above were enlightening though.
Ah! I didn't recognize that as even a plot in the book. I assumed that kids were interested with him because he possessed remarkable abilities that they wished they had themselves. Thanks!
I don't understand the fascination with this book. I found it very dry and poorly written. Most of the text seemed to revolve around "zero G" training tactics. I could not truly fathom why this would be an interesting primary subject. Does the interest come from the fact that the main character was a juvenile, and that is the target readership? I read the book when I was in my twenties, on the sole basis of the rave reviews I have heard and the fact that it won so many SF awards. Maybe that is why I disliked the book so much, although I can see how other books targeted at this audience could be compelling (Harry Potter, et all). I am interested in hearing comments from anyone who has read the book.
I think the comment about schools taking the joy out of reading refers to the fact that schools tend to choose irrelevant and/or boring required reading material. As a literate adult who enjoys good literature, I do realize that requiring students to read such uninteresting material as Shakespeare, the Mill on the Floss, etc is counterproductive. In reality, books like "The Mill on the Floss" are boring. So boring that you never see a non-student reading them (do you?). Shakespeare is also boring (*gasp* I know!). The school system is convincing kids that reading is boring by forcing them to read this material. There are many wonderful books out there. Lets choose something a bit more interesting. I am not suggesting tripe like most people read (insert latest lawyer-book-writer name here), but something a bit more relevant. Shakespeare is not sacred.
How come all the extremist nutjobs can't spell?
Wow, so even the cost of textbooks are George Bush's fault? Thanks for letting me know Dan!
Wow, that is an odd outlook on life. You would take a job flipping burgers (a 'wage slave' job) over one that could give you the freedom from becoming a 'wage slave' when you graduate. Most interesting choice.