Space Nutters always rely on "real tech" that someone else has to work on in order for their dreams to come true. Fission powered rockets do not exist.
No, it isn't possible. You CANNOT LIVE ON MARS FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME. It isn't possible. The differences in gravity would KILL YOU for a start. The radion would too. The dust would as well. Even if you solved all those problems, you cannot fix gravity.
"With those two solved you are in business assuming the reduced G is not lethal."
Uh, yes. The reduced gravity IS lethal. So is the radiation. So is the soil. You can GO there, but you cannot LIVE there. There can't be a colony on Mars.
Imagination is nice - but it isn't reality. What habitable planet is within traveling distance to Earth? Don't say Mars. The radiation and differences in gravity would kill you quickly. The problem with Nutters is they mix up imagination with reality. They don't understand basic science or physics, so they don't know what is possible and what is not possible.
You are a moron. The ISS wouldn't work on Mars. It is built for LEO. It doesn't have enough shielding from the radiation. It doesn't have the structure to withstand the conditions on Mars. You couldn't live on Mars, just like you can't live on the ISS. The differences of gravity would kill you eventually. You could GO to Mars, but you could never live there. You are a Musk nutter. I hope you liked his new tunnel. It was pretty impressive, wasn't it?
" Simple things like blowing dust off 'outside' before entering the airlock, and putting on a clean suit liner inside the hab before entering a 'mud room' to put on a Mars suit, and taking that liner off only after removing and wet-cleaning the suit and the mud room before entering the Hab."
Sounds simple. You can get all that stuff from Amazon, or if you build a Walmart on Mars you can just drive their with your space buggy and pick it up.
Oh F off with your "on this rock" nonsense. You aren't going anywhere else than "this rock". Enjoy the stay. Maybe try to make the Earth a better place, rather than indulging in your Space Nutter fantasies.
No, it is reality. Welcome to reality. That is the problem with nutters like you: you assume anything is possible, given enough time. It isn't. You will never go faster than the speed of light. Never. Ever. Doesn't matter how hard you "wish it" or have "imagination". It won't happen. Ever.
I didn't say it was difficult. I said it was IMPOSSIBLE. Didn't Mommy tell you that some things ARE impossible? For example, you might want to have the ability to turn into a cheetah. But it is impossible. No amount of "work" or "wishing" will change that fact. We have raised a generation of kids who think "everything is possible". Guess what? Everything isn't possible.
You don't understand: There is no other "basket". We are here on Earth and can't go anywhere else for an appreciable length of time without dying. You can "work on it" all you want, but it won't happen, ever. Sorry, it isn't like Mommy told you: if you work hard at something it still may not come true.
That is the purpose of short selling: to reduce the effect of market bubbles. If you didn't have short selling you would only have people who cheerlead to make a stock go up. The short sellers are the only ones looking critically at an investment. That is why companies like Enron hate short sellers (they called them "terrorists" https://www.nytimes.com/2006/0...), and Elon Musks hates them too (https://www.wired.com/story/what-are-short-sellers-and-why-does-elon-hate-them/). Only people and companies with something to hide hate short sellers. If a company is healthy and doing the right thing, short sellers can't affect them.
Classic. Do you Elon fanboy nutjobs even listen to yourselves? The technology for living on Mars "is easy"? Tesla cars are "almost auto-fabbed"? "Do you really think that colonization of Mars is actually going to be all that difficult" [once we have machines that will auto-fab a house]? 3D printed pressure vessels?
“Obviously the lowest cost you can make anything for is the spot value of the material constituents"
No, it is perfectly fine for humans to call stupid ideas "stupid". He said in particular why it was stupid. It is nonsense to talk about putting colonies on Mars. It will never, ever happen. Stop wasting time and money with that. Continue with the good ideas (robotic missions) and stop with the stupid hype of Musk and his ilk.
You know what the difference was between a wagon train to California and going to Mars? One difference is people were traveling on wagon trains to California, and one was traveling to MARS where we have been before and know to be a toxic hellhole with no breathable atmosphere and radiation that would kill you quickly. Oh and by the way, in all of those examples when the people arrived, there were already people living there and had been living there for thousands of years. You cannot compare previous exploration with going to Mars. It isn't comparable. We know what Mars is like. It isn't livable.
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If you can travel at 60mph you can travel at 60 times the speed of light. - Every Space Nutter
Space Nutters always rely on "real tech" that someone else has to work on in order for their dreams to come true. Fission powered rockets do not exist.
No, it isn't possible. You CANNOT LIVE ON MARS FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME. It isn't possible. The differences in gravity would KILL YOU for a start. The radion would too. The dust would as well. Even if you solved all those problems, you cannot fix gravity.
"With those two solved you are in business assuming the reduced G is not lethal."
Uh, yes. The reduced gravity IS lethal. So is the radiation. So is the soil. You can GO there, but you cannot LIVE there. There can't be a colony on Mars.
Imagination is nice - but it isn't reality. What habitable planet is within traveling distance to Earth? Don't say Mars. The radiation and differences in gravity would kill you quickly. The problem with Nutters is they mix up imagination with reality. They don't understand basic science or physics, so they don't know what is possible and what is not possible.
You are a moron. The ISS wouldn't work on Mars. It is built for LEO. It doesn't have enough shielding from the radiation. It doesn't have the structure to withstand the conditions on Mars. You couldn't live on Mars, just like you can't live on the ISS. The differences of gravity would kill you eventually. You could GO to Mars, but you could never live there. You are a Musk nutter. I hope you liked his new tunnel. It was pretty impressive, wasn't it?
" Simple things like blowing dust off 'outside' before entering the airlock, and putting on a clean suit liner inside the hab before entering a 'mud room' to put on a Mars suit, and taking that liner off only after removing and wet-cleaning the suit and the mud room before entering the Hab."
Sounds simple. You can get all that stuff from Amazon, or if you build a Walmart on Mars you can just drive their with your space buggy and pick it up.
Oh F off with your "on this rock" nonsense. You aren't going anywhere else than "this rock". Enjoy the stay. Maybe try to make the Earth a better place, rather than indulging in your Space Nutter fantasies.
No, it is reality. Welcome to reality. That is the problem with nutters like you: you assume anything is possible, given enough time. It isn't. You will never go faster than the speed of light. Never. Ever. Doesn't matter how hard you "wish it" or have "imagination". It won't happen. Ever.
Right. Because one thing is possible all things are possible. If you can land on the Moon, you can land on the Sun. You first.
"perhaps in a future generation the technology will exist to warp space such that faster-than-light travel IS possible"
That is scifi. Perhaps someday Jesus will return and take us all to Heaven. That is religion, not science.
I didn't say it was difficult. I said it was IMPOSSIBLE. Didn't Mommy tell you that some things ARE impossible? For example, you might want to have the ability to turn into a cheetah. But it is impossible. No amount of "work" or "wishing" will change that fact. We have raised a generation of kids who think "everything is possible". Guess what? Everything isn't possible.
You don't understand: There is no other "basket". We are here on Earth and can't go anywhere else for an appreciable length of time without dying. You can "work on it" all you want, but it won't happen, ever. Sorry, it isn't like Mommy told you: if you work hard at something it still may not come true.
That is the purpose of short selling: to reduce the effect of market bubbles. If you didn't have short selling you would only have people who cheerlead to make a stock go up. The short sellers are the only ones looking critically at an investment. That is why companies like Enron hate short sellers (they called them "terrorists" https://www.nytimes.com/2006/0...), and Elon Musks hates them too (https://www.wired.com/story/what-are-short-sellers-and-why-does-elon-hate-them/). Only people and companies with something to hide hate short sellers. If a company is healthy and doing the right thing, short sellers can't affect them.
No, normal people just cancel the service and get their money back.
Exactly. The next economic recession/depression will start sorting people out.
Good luck with that. There are no habitable planets within reach.
The top one is "Host Files: What they do and how to Maintain Them".
More like the lobbyists from the tech companies got to get some free taxpayer money since practical quantum computing has been a hoax so far.
Classic. Do you Elon fanboy nutjobs even listen to yourselves? The technology for living on Mars "is easy"? Tesla cars are "almost auto-fabbed"? "Do you really think that colonization of Mars is actually going to be all that difficult" [once we have machines that will auto-fab a house]? 3D printed pressure vessels?
“Obviously the lowest cost you can make anything for is the spot value of the material constituents"
Such genius.
No, it is perfectly fine for humans to call stupid ideas "stupid". He said in particular why it was stupid. It is nonsense to talk about putting colonies on Mars. It will never, ever happen. Stop wasting time and money with that. Continue with the good ideas (robotic missions) and stop with the stupid hype of Musk and his ilk.
Great. Just write in the memo field of the check "For Venus mission" only so we don't mix it in with the checks for the Mars missions.
You know what the difference was between a wagon train to California and going to Mars? One difference is people were traveling on wagon trains to California, and one was traveling to MARS where we have been before and know to be a toxic hellhole with no breathable atmosphere and radiation that would kill you quickly. Oh and by the way, in all of those examples when the people arrived, there were already people living there and had been living there for thousands of years. You cannot compare previous exploration with going to Mars. It isn't comparable. We know what Mars is like. It isn't livable.
No problem. We will build the prototype on Venus itself then. I'll let Musk know that you are ready with your design.
Yeah, all you need to live on Mars forever is a nice cave. Hopefully Mars has good real estate agents.